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Rant: Some newbie contractor smashed my TyTN :x

I am currently venting a lot of steam...
Today during the installation of a large machine at work, I left my TyTN on top of it whilst some contractors moved the 3 tonne equipment. Someone then put something heavy on top of my shiny new TyTN and next thing I know.... Screen smashed :shock:
Needless to say, I was speechless, and still am mortified.
Anyway, After coming to terms with the fact that no fancy reg hack or rom update is going to repair the screen, I realised that I am going to have to somehow have it repaired.
In essence, the LCD is not fractured. It appears that it is a glass cover over the LCD, but below the touchscreen sensor layer. I can't use the touchscreen over the smashed part but the LCD seems to be absolutely fine.
At some point, I'm going to need to send it off to somewhere for repair, but I don't yet know where to. Does anyone have any experience with physical repairs / costs / delay times of this nature?
It is my guess, that there are not many service centres in France where I live for HTC but maybe someone knows of an easy way out of this appalling mess?
Incidentally, I'm /trying/ to make an insurance claim through the customer, but they are so far unhelpful.
€850.... pah.... Gutted....

Rant turned into Repair centre test....
OK, so I've calmed down a bit now... and have decided to turn this into a repair centre test - just in case anyone is remotely interested in my woe - or indeed the performance of french HTC repair centres
I sent an email using the form on the HTC support website this evening telling them of my problem and asking about the best / fastest way to get the phone repaired.
I am located near Grenoble in France so we shall see just how well this proceeds - and how much cash I have to throw at it.
If anyone thinks that this is a waste of thread.. then let me know and i'll not post any updates
I sincerely hope no-one else damages their TyTN.... it hurts!

I think many will like to know about your updates.. and good to have a thread to 'point' to whenever someone has the same problem. LCD replacement is a common problems.. so common that they are selling LCD spares on eBay.

Ah thanks for that.
Anyway - just to report.. no reply email so far from HTC.

Re: Rant turned into Repair centre test....
rmorby said:
If anyone thinks that this is a waste of thread.. then let me know and i'll not post any updates
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But on the contrary, I am very much interested in your future reports about HTC repairs. And of course I wish you luck!
Cheers
Daniel

Good luck with a reply rmorby.
I dropped my TyTN last Friday (8th September) and emailed the HTC service centre in the UK via the website on the Saturday. Today, one week later I am still waiting for a reply!
I rang the UK service centre on Wednesday (13th September) as I had not had a reply and was told that the IMEI number for my device was for a Dutch handset. I was told that I would therefore have to speak to Danguard in Germany to get it fixed! The operator went on to say that the Danguard phone lines we down and that I would have to email them!
That I did, on Wednesday, but am still waiting for a reply from them too! I rang Danguard in Germay on Friday - only to get a permanently engaged tone!
Come on HTC - what is going on with your support!!! :twisted:

I'm much luckier. I had a problem with mine and had the UK service center to have it fixed. Mine is UK and under warantee. On average, it takes less than a week for them to fix and return. Although I have to send it back twice. That's, first, it was a dead speaker. Then, after I got the unit back, the there are something wrong with it that the in speaker mode, the unit gets very hot and drain battery like mad (e.g draining battery while in AC mode). After the 2nd time, it works like charm.

Well Christos, I sympathise greatly. I haven't had a reply yet from them either. I'm in France, and bought the device in France, but I guess no-one's on email at HTC. I'm going to be giving them a call on Monday to see if I can progress this. It's really frustrating not being able to use the touchscreen and having a dirty big crack over the LCD.... I think this is going to be expensive...
At least, like Hanmin said, if it just takes a week to sort out when they finally get going, then that's not too bad.

unbelievable.... I'm just stunned
Well, I haven't added to this for several reasons... Firstly, I'm on nights for a while and secondly... I've had very little news.
Since the 13th September I have had an insurance claim in for this. This is insurance from the shop I bought the phone from (FNAC) and I have sent the telephone to them for evaluation etc.
To cut a long story short, they periodically sent me automated emails saying that they were progressing it etc. They also appear to be using a QTEK repair centre because they called it a QTEK 9600 instead of an HTC-TyTN, so I hope that they really are the same.
Then - NOTHING.
So I phoned them, and they said that they sent the phone back to me on the 26th October - using a postal service that takes 2 days. I haven't received anything. They gave me a dodgy tracking number which didn't work and when I asked them for a good one, it's going to take 48 hours to find it.
I'm just a little bit frustrated. I want my TyTN back now - and I have no idea where it is!
I think they lost it!!!

Wahoo so sad...
Any good news????
Hope so for you.
I will just smash the shop! Get arrested! Get out and guess what!
Smash it AGAIN!
I can`t belive this disrespect for costumers!
Maybe becose I live in Japan and here the costumer STILL the KING..hope it last forever!

HTC Customer Service: HELP!!

Hallo everyone, I couldn't find any new threads so I'm starting a new one. I took my HD2 to a Milan service center because there was a slight crack in the LCD screen; the phone fell from my hands, it was in its case but cracked anyway..I accepted a hefty 201 Euro charge, and was told that I would get it back (fixed..) in 7/10 days. This was on My 18th. After 2 weeks I called and was told to call HTC directly, there were no news. HTC told me there was a shortage in LCD screens, the problem was being solved and to call back in another 2 weeks. I called yesterday (HTC Europe..) and I was told the problem is indefinite, they have no idea when it will be solved. I asked why wasn't I told right away, I could have kept my phone (it was working) until they had fixed the shortage...and so
today HTC called me back and proposed to return me the HTC2 NOT fixed, that I should ask the service center that I did not want to fix it, and I would "only" be charged for the delivery service to and from the HTC service.
At this I blew up, and said in NO WAY was i going to ask to have it back not fixed so it would look like I did NOT want it fixed...just so they could charge me for it! I still need a fixed phone! So I just told him to keep it there until they had solved the hardware problem, and I would have a consumers' association write to them...
..I'm thinking of buying a new phone, maybe this new Samsung Galaxy...
..but I'm SO ANGRY!!! NO MORE HTC!!!! Does anyone know what is going on? I've never heard of anything like this!!!

Sorry for your bad experience. Quite a few people here will be familiar this kind of thing. I once tried to make a warranty claim on my HTC Touch Pro...in the end I gave up.
Check how much the 'postage' charge is before you agree to anything. This and the handling fee is normally quite high (well, in the UK it is). Keep complaining about it and don't back down?

HTC bad customer support
Thanks for your reply Ouzo..but I am in now way going to get them to send me back the phone if they don't fix it, and have to pay for postage! I'm going to have a lawyer write to them, and a Consumers' Association. They can keep it until it's fixed. And they HAVE to fix it sooner or later or start paying penalties. The doc I signed says I have to pick it up within 90 days or I will be charged for deposit...
What I am going to do, is go out and buy another phone...and NEVER AGAIN an HTC...

I'm not sure if any of the other phone manufacturers are any better unfortunately. Either way, good luck with your new phone, and good luck getting your phone fixed by HTC.

bionksie said:
Thanks for your reply Ouzo..but I am in now way going to get them to send me back the phone if they don't fix it, and have to pay for postage! I'm going to have a lawyer write to them, and a Consumers' Association. They can keep it until it's fixed. And they HAVE to fix it sooner or later or start paying penalties. The doc I signed says I have to pick it up within 90 days or I will be charged for deposit...
What I am going to do, is go out and buy another phone...and NEVER AGAIN an HTC...
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I would never claim in a warranty for just this reason. Smash it pay the £20 for excess on the insurance get them to pick it up and take it away and get a replacement at the door.
I've done this two or three times with my mobile insurer, works a charm. I'd pay the £20 excess again and again just for the privilege of getting them to take it away and getting a replacement there and then.

HTC Customer support is bad!
Hi Kalavere, that's pretty funny! But unfortunately I don't have insurance. I didn't even have that option, it wasn't a telecom device, but I bought it unlocked from a regular store. I going for the Samsung Galaxy...and when they decide to send it back to me, it's being sold. Goodbye forever HTC..
(though I know that Samsung Customer Service will be just as bad...).

Can totally empathise with your situation. Sent my HTC Desire for repair (external speaker stopped working) in UK 6 weeks ago. Sent it in original retail packaging with battery.
Only just received a replacement today. It arrived in bubble wrap in a plastic envelope...no retail box, no battery and lost proof of purchase.
Have had several shouting matches with their p!$$ poor customer services deparment. Have emailed UKs BBC Watchdog TV programme for help in getting some sort of compensation. Will let you know if I get any joy.
In the meantime, I would recommend anyone else in the UK who has problems with HTC Customer Service to also email BBC Watchdog....the more that email, the more something might get done.

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babblerx said:
Can totally empathise with your situation. Sent my HTC Desire for repair (external speaker stopped working) in UK 6 weeks ago. Sent it in original retail packaging with battery.
Only just received a replacement today. It arrived in bubble wrap in a plastic envelope...no retail box, no battery and lost proof of purchase.
Have had several shouting matches with their p!$$ poor customer services deparment. Have emailed UKs BBC Watchdog TV programme for help in getting some sort of compensation. Will let you know if I get any joy.
In the meantime, I would recommend anyone else in the UK who has problems with HTC Customer Service to also email BBC Watchdog....the more that email, the more something might get done.
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Try to use my tread for that BBC w.dog
If it's help you.I'll be happy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844980
HTC servic in UK is boring at all.

Unblock Desire HD

Ok, so as dodgy as this is going to sound to some people, its the truth....
I lost my DHD a few months back and got an insurance claim to replace the phone (thank god, id be lost without it)
So.... 2 days ago my friend was cleaning out their car and found it down the back of the seat (where they promised they had checked before) and gave it back to me.
I went to the shop where I filed the insurance claim (Carphone Warehouse) and tried to hand it back to them, they got the manager who said "This doesn't happen much, we can't take it back, just keep it"
But the phone is blocked, only from calls, it can still be used to access the Android Market etc. Is there any way around this block so I can sell/give it away.
P.S. I promise this isn't a lie and because I tried to give it back, I'm pretty sure its not illegal either.

There would be no legal way for you to unblock it as far as I know, they lock the phone out with it's IMEI number.

sjta3b said:
Ok, so as dodgy as this is going to sound to some people, its the truth....
I lost my DHD a few months back and got an insurance claim to replace the phone (thank god, id be lost without it)
So.... 2 days ago my friend was cleaning out their car and found it down the back of the seat (where they promised they had checked before) and gave it back to me.
I went to the shop where I filed the insurance claim (Carphone Warehouse) and tried to hand it back to them, they got the manager who said "This doesn't happen much, we can't take it back, just keep it"
But the phone is blocked, only from calls, it can still be used to access the Android Market etc. Is there any way around this block so I can sell/give it away.
P.S. I promise this isn't a lie and because I tried to give it back, I'm pretty sure its not illegal either.
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It has nothing to do with carphone warehouse, if you return the device to working order, you will be defrauding there insurance company! Imo you should just throw it away.
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shakadamus is correct. Once blocked they cannot be legally unblocked.
I'm pretty sure it would be blocked to most of Western Europe now as well, as databases are now shared.
EDIT: Read your insurance documentation, I'm pretty sure it will mention "if you find your phone, return it to us, as legally we now own it" or words to that effect.

My phone stopped working around New Year, after many weeks of new SIM's, sending for repairs etc it turned out that someone else had lost their phone, but T-Mobile blocked MY IMEI number. Although it was their mistake it took several weeks to get them to reactivate the phone, so it can be done, but it was not straight forward. As the insurance company has already paid out on your handset, they might not even entertain reactivating it, but it's worth a go, you have nothing to lose in trying.

Keep it for spare battery and covers/other parts
It would be a loss to just throw it away not to mention stupid.
If WIFI still works and they don't wanna take it back maybe you could still sell it or use it for urself.

Thanks for the advice guys, ill ring the insurance company in the morning to see what they say, other than that, ill probably just keep the battery and chuck the handset, no1 is going to pay anything for a blocked phone and it really is no use to me at all.

if the insurance company say you can keep it, just stick it on ebay or something, as long as you are clear that it is a black listed handset you should have no problems, you might be surprised a what some people will pay for some things on there.

sjta3b said:
Thanks for the advice guys, ill ring the insurance company in the morning to see what they say, other than that, ill probably just keep the battery and chuck the handset, no1 is going to pay anything for a blocked phone and it really is no use to me at all.
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That's what I'd do, I'd strip the covers, battery and even attempt to remove the main board from the unibody case then sell it all as spares, minus the main board.
EDIT: was missing the bolded key word

Throwing it away is pretty stupid lol, like the others said strip it for parts ..
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sjta3b said:
Thanks for the advice guys, ill ring the insurance company in the morning to see what they say, other than that, ill probably just keep the battery and chuck the handset, no1 is going to pay anything for a blocked phone and it really is no use to me at all.
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i will buy it off u mate.. would u sell it ?

If wifi etc works, use it as a mini laptop for around the house? *stirring*Or use it for all those times we have to put our DHD's on the charger!!!*stirring*

Hand it over to the Rom developers as a test rig ;-)
Sent from the powers of my mind, using the XDA App o_0

I will sell this to anyone who wants wants to buy it, contact me via PM if you're interested, but it would have to go on ebay for safety/security reasons, I wouldnt sell via a forum (im sure its against the rules too).
Or if anyone can find me a high profile dev who will put it to good use they're more than welcome to it, tell them to contact me again via PM.
I live in the UK so would rather post it to someone not too far from the UK or Ireland, esp if its a dev as I wont be asking money.

I would buy it, if I know its not locked on my operator. But I don't have money right now.
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Help: Vodafone sent my phone back, unrepaired, without proof and scratched!

Hi all, I need some help on this one if you can as I'm hitting my head on a brick wall! I recently sent my phone off for repair to vodafone as the usb port wasn't working right. They phoned me up and said it was water damaged (which I am adament it is not) and they asked for £100 to repair. I declined and said I would like proof and they said they would send it with the phone. I went into the store to collect my phone and there was no proof and the staff could not demonstrate that it had water damage. On top of this I had two scratches on my screen! I asked who to complain to and they fobbed me off with some generic number and I can't get through to anyone important. Does anyone have a direct number or e-mail for someone high up at vodafone or have any idea how I should go about this? It really has been the worst customer service I have ever experienced and feel gutted that I moved to vodafone .

get in touch with voda web relations team on facebook or twitter if you dont use them then simply create an account on their e forum and make a post stating your troubles and that you would like a mod to contact you so you can discuss your options and also so you can get a number that actually works to complain too
i would also get ready to write a hand written letter and send it off to the right complaints department via recorded delivery
this isnt on and voda need to sort out their repair/warranty team because at the moment they are useless and a quick google will show you many 100s of users with the same problem as you from all over the uk on all different forums
hope you get it sorted

The real answer is you need a qualified engineers report for a second opinion .
They say water damage not a leg to stand on your fault . They say no sign of water damage you can present proof to Vodafone .
jje

Thanks for the help guys, I'm going to have samsung take a look at it!

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Thanks for the help guys, I'm going to have samsung take a look at it!
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Sounds like the best idea. I would contact trading standards too and let vodafone know about it.

you may also want to post HERE.
from experiance they make a effort on that forum.

did this need 2 threads?

An update: I just got my phone back finally from a samsung repair center and its been fixed under warranty and he says there was absolutely no water damage! I have the repair receipt. I'm really angry by the blatent lies vodafone told me and the fact that i've been without my phone for almost a month and think its fair to ask for compensation? Has anyone ever been messed about like this before?

complain to them and send proof (a copy of course) of samsung stating there was no water damage/it was a usb fault, they should compensate u somehow. Kinda like when I complained to T-mobile about my internet speed being low and that I was moving to 3 (which I've done anyways ), knocked £7.50 off my contract for 4 months and and gave me unlimited calls to t mobile for the rest of my contract

[Q] Dead DZ and HTC Repair in the UK

This afternoon my DZ decided to die. I checked the phone and then 10 minutes later went to ring my wife and... nothing, phone wouldn't respond to the power button. I whipped out the battery and left it out for 2 minutes but still nothing.
I have since tried plugging in the charger and again nothing, not even the orange charging light. Tried leaving the battery out for 1/2 hour and removing the memory and sim cards and even plugging in the charger with the cards and battery removed, but still nothing.
looks like it's serious.
I have had the phone 11 months, I got it from a little shop (well booth really) that was branded as HTC in the local Westfield shopping centre. The little shop has now disappeared. The phone is sim unlocked and not tied to a carrier. When I dug out the receipt it is in the name of a company called Westcoast Mobile. They have a website (www.westcoast.co.uk) but they seem to be a rather diverse company but not one that sells phones to the public.
Consequently I was planning on calling HTC on Monday to see if I can get the phone sent off for repair. Does anyone know if I'm likely to have problems with HTC or will they be happy to help me?
In the mean time I have dug out my trusty HTC Typhoon which is currently synching my email and charging up. Old phone but it does the job and I love the size and shape of it.

HTC warranty is one yr. Should be ok. I bought mine used so I always fixed mine myself. But you bought yours new.
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My suggestion is this:
Try buying a new battery , maybe it will fix the problem
Also if the phone will be recovered , take care of this with buying a new silicon case or something like this. Today my DZ cashed by up to 2M and nothing problem , sceen perfect i got luck.
Also i add if you realy love the phone , and the repair cost is to much , buy one used on ebay like me. I have bought one for 220€ @ 170£ , with 23months of guaranty and it's perfect.
Good luck mate

The Westcoast in your link is a big computer reseller, almost certainly nothing to do with a guy with a mall booth selling mobiles
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

steviewevie said:
The Westcoast in your link is a big computer reseller, almost certainly nothing to do with a guy with a mall booth selling mobiles
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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I'm wondering whether they had some sort of tie in with HTC as the booth was completely branded as HTC anad they were selling sim free phones on any network.
I got a phone from them because:
1. They had the DZ and I could have for free by renewing my contract with O2.
2. The sales bloke could string a sentence together unlike the fool in the O2 shop.

trundlenut said:
This afternoon my DZ decided to die. I checked the phone and then 10 minutes later went to ring my wife and... nothing, phone wouldn't respond to the power button. I whipped out the battery and left it out for 2 minutes but still nothing.
I have since tried plugging in the charger and again nothing, not even the orange charging light. Tried leaving the battery out for 1/2 hour and removing the memory and sim cards and even plugging in the charger with the cards and battery removed, but still nothing.
looks like it's serious.
Consequently I was planning on calling HTC on Monday to see if I can get the phone sent off for repair. Does anyone know if I'm likely to have problems with HTC or will they be happy to help me?
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I'm a Brit too and I had a pretty similar issue just a few months back. The bizarre part is I wasn't even doing anything "risky".
Get in touch with HTC ASAP. They were really good to me.
I contacted them via their website (you'll need the serial number/IMEI). Very polite and helpful responses and offered courier pickup for mainland UK addresses.
Didn't take long at all for a repair, and I believe it was back with me in 2-3 days.
I can't speak for their phone support, other than that they called me to check if the phone was still working okay and asked if they could close the ticket. An unexpected touch, but appreciated.
Motorola barely lifted a finger for me when dealing with my MS2 issues... but that is another story.
Since you have the receipt, you should be fine. Again, just get in touch!
I warn you, it will most likely come back with gingerbread like mine did, but you can still downgrade and root (if you so choose) using the guides on here.

PhoenixTank said:
I'm a Brit too and I had a pretty similar issue just a few months back. The bizarre part is I wasn't even doing anything "risky".
Get in touch with HTC ASAP. They were really good to me.
I contacted them via their website (you'll need the serial number/IMEI). Very polite and helpful responses and offered courier pickup for mainland UK addresses.
Didn't take long at all for a repair, and I believe it was back with me in 2-3 days.
I can't speak for their phone support, other than that they called me to check if the phone was still working okay and asked if they could close the ticket. An unexpected touch, but appreciated.
Motorola barely lifted a finger for me when dealing with my MS2 issues... but that is another story.
Since you have the receipt, you should be fine. Again, just get in touch!
I warn you, it will most likely come back with gingerbread like mine did, but you can still downgrade and root (if you so choose) using the guides on here.
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Thanks for that, it gives me a bit more confidence. It's just annoying the phone was in my pocket in a sleeve for 15 minutes and it just died.

Well I rang them on Monday morning, at first they wanted to send me a new battery but I pointed out it didn't do anything without the battery when you plugged the charger in. The bloke had to check with his supervisor then came back and said "let's arrange to pick the phone up". I had to email them a copy of the receipt from when I bought the phone and that was that.
They emailed me a form and a label, I boxed up the phone and a courier picked it up Tuesday afternoon. Pretty straightforward really.
Just waiting to hear that they have the phone now.

Got the phone back this morning, so exactly 7 days from calling HTC to having a working phone again. I think that is pretty good service.
Seems like the problem was pretty terminal as the phone has returned with a new IMEI and according to the paperwork with the phone it has had the "PCBA" and "flash board" replaced.
The phone even came in a little box with "I'm back" printed on it.

Sounds great ! Was that all free, under warranty ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.

steviewevie said:
Sounds great ! Was that all free, under warranty ?
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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All free, didn't cost me a penny.
The bloke I spoke to at HTC told me I had a two year warranty after he had spoken with his supervisor.

Is that two years from the purchese date or the repair date (as in did they extend the warrenty for you)

It will be 2 years from the purchase date. The paperwork with the phone when it comes back says something along the lines of you don't get any extra warranty after the repair date.
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