Justice Department Blocks AT&T, T-Mobile Merger Over Antitrust Fears
WASHINGTON -- The Justice Department is blocking AT&T's $39 billion deal to buy T-Mobile USA, saying the acquisition of the No. 4 wireless carrier in the country by No. 2 AT&T would reduce competition and raise prices.
http://huff.to/p9tsxz
this is just to make it look like they put up a fight when the merger is approved.
Yes, it does not mean that the deal will not still go through.
This deal looks more and more like the Direct TV/ Dish merger more and more... and that is in no way a bad thing...
...Maybe. But i've been watching this in CNN, and that they are saying AT&T will NOT have any exclusive rights to stocks and such, etc.
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You can get most anything to go through if you make enough concessions. With 6 billion on the line ATT will do what they have to to make it go through. Its far from over
this is great. means i may not have to switch to sprint after all....
this isn't a done deal yet. It just means that the court will have to decide. And really once the lawyers get involved who knows what will happen. I just hope that att doesn't use the chewbacca defense.
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deathstar fail, Luke and the rebel scum live to fight another day!
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I am so happy that this is being blocked.
Here is a good read - although I would have enjoyed it more if it included a blurb on TMO's response to the 'Vibrant GPS debacle/lack of updates support' response...
Even with low prices, T-Mobile customers flee
URL -
google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivXdtsheWfU25wTAeJ5ZDZ07aKzg?docId=9bbecf13789248fcaf30b4234f93752c
Obviously, there's a first time for everything, but this is from an MSNBC article:
"The FCC, however, has never approved a significant takeover that the DOJ had challenged in court, an FCC official said."
Here's hoping this aquisition doesn't happen.
Agree. T-Mobile will shrink to the size of a non-factor regional carrier anyways.
Their coverage sucks. I can't wait to get rid of em soon.
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Agree. T-Mobile will shrink to the size of a non-factor regional carrier anyways.
Their coverage sucks. I can't wait to get rid of em soon.
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What the heck are you talking about? It is one... One... ONE SINGLE motive the AT&T have, to get the only bandwidth that's so robust and fast network, which would RELIVE THEM on the very busy network, congested network they have!!!! I know TONS OF PEOPLE switch from AT&T to Verizon (those iPhoney users) just get a decent network and speed from AT&T.
To free up the congested network, they need the near empty network of TMO. If that happens, the known/proven fast network we got will be shared by a million of Iphone app heavy users!!!!
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What the heck are you talking about? It is one... One... ONE SINGLE motive the AT&T have, to get the only bandwidth that's so robust and fast network, which would RELIVE THEM on the very busy network, congested network they have!!!! I know TONS OF PEOPLE switch from AT&T to Verizon (those iPhoney users) just get a decent network and speed from AT&T.
To free up the congested network, they need the near empty network of TMO. If that happens, the known/proven fast network we got will be shared by a million of Iphone app heavy users!!!!
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Agreed, T-Mobile has a far faster/better network service than AT&T. I am constantly dealing with people who use AT&T saying they got no service when my T-Mobile device has 3-4 bars. One of the places I worked put steel sheets on the roof to reflect sunlight & heat in the buildings. They also used AT&T for all company phones. They all had to go outside to make a call, I didn't. At that time I had a T-Mobile Dash aka HTC Excalibur. Far from a top end phone.
I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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I can tell you why, they don't want to be with AT&T. A lot of T-Mobile's user were AT&T customers. They are jumping ship as their contracts end. AT&T has garbage for CS. T-Mobile's is great. I've hand a couple roommates accidentally get $10 charges by those online surveys things. The Facebook game's free game credit things. Well, one simple call to T-Mobile's CS & more than $40 was credited. I just swapped out my SIM card, it took 5 Mins to do so(my old SIM was 5+ yrs old). Ex AT&T customers never want to be part of AT&T again, so they're fleeing to avoid what seemed to be inevitable.
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I am not sure why people are fleeing tmobile. But hell it's the best in southern california for me. I have tried At and T and I always get dropped calls.
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Let them. It makes our network not congested and fast.
Its funny that my coworkers that have Android (that is on AT&T), have tweaked thier build.prop to maximize their network... My buddy was so damn excited that he got 2.6 D 1.5 U, and it was his fastest yet. Tweaked mine, and had a contest with him, I topped at 5.8 D 2.1 U. He was like, "lets download something together, same file. That speedtest isn't accurate anyway..." I said ok, he chose the file, which was a mp3 file he uploaded to his dropbox, and we simultaneously downloaded it. Lets just say, I was done when he was still at 82%. Hahahaha!!!!!
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I can tell you why, they don't want to be with AT&T. A lot of T-Mobile's user were AT&T customers. They are jumping ship as their contracts end. AT&T has garbage for CS. T-Mobile's is great. I've hand a couple roommates accidentally get $10 charges by those online surveys things. The Facebook game's free game credit things. Well, one simple call to T-Mobile's CS & more than $40 was credited. I just swapped out my SIM card, it took 5 Mins to do so(my old SIM was 5+ yrs old). Ex AT&T customers never want to be part of AT&T again, so they're fleeing to avoid what seemed to be inevitable.
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In my opinion, they should've waited this out, see the outcome. I'm out of contract, but I will wait till the very day TMO changes to AT&T. Since this isn't the case yet, I'll enjoy TMO.
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Let the rumor train keepon a rollin'
Here's the link and another and one more.
Also, as some comments have said, I think they're mixing up 4G service for 4G hotspot. I don't believe (or cross my fingers/hope/pray/etc) that Sprint will charge extra for 4G, but will charge the $10-20 for the mobile hotspot.
That's over two months from now.... WTF lol.
Here's another link from Engadget - http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/07/htc-evo-4g-landing-on-sprint-mid-june-4g-to-be-a-10-20-add-on/
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Here's another link from Engadget - http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/07/htc-evo-4g-landing-on-sprint-mid-june-4g-to-be-a-10-20-add-on/
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Ahh you beat me to it, was just about to add that.
And yeah, I know.. The release date is way too far away for me, I'm tired of sitting on this stupid upgrade.
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I'm tired of sitting on this stupid upgrade.
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Same here!!! I've been sitting on my upgrade since Nov. lol
Let me ask you Sprint customers about coverage.
I know they say Verizon has the most coverage blah blah and AT&T is next. I just think in sheer numbers these two get the most rezognition because of the 90Mil and 85Mil customer they have.
But I have been looking at the Spring Coverage and it seems they cover better of lots of areas that Verizon and AT&T are not that good at and equal to areas to areas they cover well.
Also any roaming charges? I ask this only because I am not familair with their data/phone plans anymore. The last time I had them was when roaming was a KILLER Charge!
So would you say their coverage is not given enough credit?
I don't like Verizon. I am inclined to pick up an HTC Telstra on April 27th for my AT&T network. I have no contract at the moment. I got the T-Mobile and returned it due to the bad coverage at some client locations and inside buildings the are horrid.
AT&T seems to cover almost every area that I need so far.
Sprint seems to cover them well but I like real life data not Sprint Data.
Thanks for your any input..
Sprint has fairly good coverage in my area. I live in a small town and have full bars inside my house. The only dropouts I have experienced in a 60 mile radius are in places where I doubt there is a tower for any cell provider and even then data just drops to 1x (I drive across an inlet bridge with land about a mile wide with the atlantic ocean to one side and the bay to the other side.)
I feel Sprint is getting back in the game full force. Time will tell when they roll out the EVO and 4G. Some potential problems could arise such as customers purchasing the EVO only to find out there is no 4G coverage in their area etc... But it's a risk Sprint will take and incentive to expand their network. You also have to remember not everyone is a smart phone junky or even cares about 4G. Most want a phone to talk on and text/picture message. I get asked by someone sitting on a laptop checking their email about why I play with my phone so much and I turn and smile and say I'm just doing the same thing you are and they still don't really get it. So it's an evolution although it will be marketed as a revolution.
I think Sprint's main problem, and something they have obviosuly known and been working on, is their device line.
Why is AT&T so popular? The iPhone of course...
If you don't like the iPhone, or don't like AT&T, check out Verizon, they've got that Droid!..
Oh wait, I don't like Verizon either... Tmob has a Droid Eris, right?
Wait, Tmob sucks... What's Sprint got? A TP2 that costs me 299?!, so yeah, that Droid looks good.
People are obsessed with what device they have, and THEN about their coverage. It's the only way AT&T can get away with jacking up their iPhone prices that high -- while Sprint offers the SAME plan for 30-40 a month cheaper.
But to answer your question, Sprint's coverage is great for me. Granted I'm in Texas (Sprint has 4G all over the place here), but for the cheaper plan and great coverage, I would say Sprint is probably the best carrier in my region. Why are so few people using Sprint? -my main guess (and I think its a good one) is that Sprint has crap phones.
keatre said:
I think Sprint's main problem, and something they have obviosuly known and been working on, is their device line.
Why are so few people using Sprint? -my main guess (and I think its a good one) is that Sprint has crap phones.
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I don't think you can call 51.9 million Sprint subscribers (as of January 2010) "so few". Verizon had 67.2 million, and AT&T was sitting at 71.3 million. So take into account that the AVERAGE cell phone subscriber only knows what they see in commercials, the 15.3 million difference between Sprint and Verizon is easy to imagine. I have run into countless employees who have no idea that Sprint rates are better than Verizon's. They always cite, "Verizon has better coverage...", then I show them the rate difference and they swap over. Not to mention that coverage areas for Sprint and Verizon are almost the same. That being said, AT&T only has 3.9 million more than Verizon, and that can be attributed to the iPhone craze.
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I don't think you can call 51.9 million Sprint subscribers (as of January 2010) "so few". Verizon had 67.2 million, and AT&T was sitting at 71.3 million. So take into account that the AVERAGE cell phone subscriber only knows what they see in commercials, the 15.3 million difference between Sprint and Verizon is easy to imagine. I have run into countless employees who have no idea that Sprint rates are better than Verizon's. They always cite, "Verizon has better coverage...", then I show them the rate difference and they swap over. Not to mention that coverage areas for Sprint and Verizon are almost the same. That being said, AT&T only has 3.9 million more than Verizon, and that can be attributed to the iPhone craze.
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Woah passive aggressive, sorry dude.. I think we're saying the same thing (or atleast getting at it), but your prose is oh so more eloquent. My sincerest apologies.
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Same here!!! I've been sitting on my upgrade since Nov. lol
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I'm in the same predicament, except I started taking advantage of Sprint's 30 day guarantee, and am trying out different phones until the EVO gets here. (~$30 a pop when you return it)
I have a touch pro, and last month tried the Moment, it was cool, but had to return it.
Now I have the Pre, and I'm liking it so much (other than having to figure out how to pop open they keyboard with one hand) that I'm afraid I might not be able to return it.
[email protected] had mentioned that a number of 4G phones are to be released this year, I'm wondering if I should wait until the fall to make a decision on what phone is to keep my upgrade credit.
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I'm in the same predicament, except I started taking advantage of Sprint's 30 day guarantee, and am trying out different phones until the EVO gets here. (~$30 a pop when you return it)
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I was thinking of doing that lol. I had the Pre for a month and return it. All I need is a good device (the Evo) and being a sprint premier customer, I get 1 year contracts. So hopefully that hold me over till the next great device .
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/08/nearly-half-a-million-contract-customers-left-t-mobile-in-q1-201/
Will YOU be leaving?
If the merger goes through, then yes. I have been a tmobile customer for 7 years. I have been satisfied with the hardware, the accounts, and even the customer support. Especially the customer support.
AT&T want a stellar company before the SBC buyout, but it became terrible after. I expect the same thing if Tmobile is consumed.
I do not look forward to finding a new carrier.
I don't think I'll leave TMO unless AT&T acquires it and doesn't let me keep my current plan and pricing. I travel accross USA and do not have a voice coverage problem with Tmobile. Its excellent with few to none dropped calls. But the data sucks, my phone switches to edge 80% of the time as compared to my co workers AT&T and Sprint.
Not to mention I pay less than $160 for 2 lines with unlimited everything.... The next cheapest is sprint @ $210
If the buyout goes through, absolutely leaving. I will never be an AT&T customer again, even if it means taking my Vibrant over to Simple Mobile.
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I'll be leaving as well. As far as when, that depends on when the merger goes through and who gets the SGSII. One things for sure, I'll NEVER use AT&T again.
I agree with most the other comments....... I pay 152 per month for 2 lines unlimited everything......... and I use it............ When and IF ATT does get T-mobile. . . then I will have to find a new carrier, I really like TMO but tempus fugit......
As far as the customer loss I do not see that as a real big issue, if I remember correctly, the average for all the major carriers is between 6-8 million per carrier per year or as it is called in the industry the "churn"
I agree with KWKSLVR it is about who gets the S2
It depends on my dad....he pays me and my sister's phone bill cuz we're in college...no matter if we stay or go...i still gotta unlock my Vibrant for another carrier
If the plans stay the same then ill stay plus some might have better coverage
in areas they never did
T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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any other provider sounds better then att. i would gladly switch to boost with an unlocked android. or even metropcs has got a few good androids to date. att is making a losing bet unless they all of a sudden change their pricing plans.
N8ter said:
T-Mobile coverage is terrible Verizon has the iphon now and at&t had some good Android phones.
I'll be leaving.
Also, t-mobile hasn't cared about building out their data network for a long time. Data id more important than voice to me. I use 50 voice minutes a month but 2gb data. I don't mind paying more for a better network...
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
Add me to the list of people who will leave T-Mobile the day AT&T goes through. Keeping my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen.
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If you knew T-Mobile coverage was bad in your area perhaps you should have started out with a different carrier in the first place. Here in Dallas I get 3G or H almost everywhere.
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Hi idiot.
I did. No one else had coverage but t-mobile thanks to voice roaming, but at&t put a New 3g tower up so now they have everything. I went from at&t to sprint before t-mobile.
Thanks for using that pea sized brain of yours, though.
At&t... Building out their network.
T-mobile... Dead end.
And traveling with a t-mobile phone is a lesson in frustration compared to at&t other Verizon.
I'm with them cause I live in a rural area and had no choice then.
NOW I do... So ill be leaving.
Don't care where you live and how your signal is, tbh. even at the hspa+ market down the interstate your phone can go from full 3g to edge at any random time.
T-mobile are not defendable, so stop ****ing trying Even with good phones and low prices people are leaving, and for a reason. They aren't spending more just cause they can... There are sizeable cities here that can't get more than 3 bars gprs from t-mobile here, but the other three carriers have full 3g
Thank you.
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I've been a T-Mobile customer for almost 5 years. Up until I transferred to the college in this town now, my 3G data service has been great. Im actually so unhappy w/ T-Mobile..Right now i live in Huntsville,TX where I goto college at and T-Mobile is beyond garbage here. Personally, If I'm going to pay the same amount of money as someone who has 3G/4G coverage, i have to have to have the same equal coverage. I'm back and fourth on GPRS and Edge here missing important calls like clockwork. I can get a similar plan with AT&T for the same amount with 4G service here in this town. (Trust me i work for Radioshack and I know all about both companies plans and prices as well as restrictions) When the Samsung Galaxy S2 comes out this summer for AT&T, I'm leaving T-Mobile to give AT&T my money instead. I'm not handing over my whole pay check for a Verizon phone LOL and I'm not going to Sprint with their 3G coverage map looking like a pepperoni pizza LOL
For the most part, T-Mobile has been beyond great as far as customer serviceand pricing, its just that voice and 3G data coverage is, always, and forever will be their weakness and that doesn't work for me.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/17/us-tmobile-att-lawsuits-idUSTRE77G59020110817
I know there's already a thread for this, but this article just seems too important for me.
Is At&t violating our rights? Somebody answer this for me.
don't know, but I just posted a thread about my complaint against AT&T today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=261
but apparently if the firm wins and we sign up, I think we can get $10,000
http://www.fightthemerger.com/FAQ/
Agreed.
I have heard from friends and customers as well how horrible att&t's reception can be, however i am not sure about customer service.
I have Verizon for a for my cell and Bellsouth for my home, I used to have att&t a long time ago.
I'm happy with at&t. Great customer service and great reception!. But why does everyone want to fight the merge? If anything it will boost t mobile
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I guess that depends on where you live. I was on AT&T less than a month ago and I can't say that I miss it. The service where I spent most of my time in was pretty bad. Calling coverage was somewhat ok around my work, but 3G was downright terrible. I could have a full row of bars on 3G and somehow still not be able to get on the web haha. My house was even worse. I'd usually have 1-2 bars, but it was almost a guaranteed drop call unless I sat right next to the window at the front of my house. Can't really comment on the customer service though, since I never really bothered to call.
Not really looking forward to the merge, but I'll reevaluate my options once my T-Mo contract expires. Maybe the merge will be a good thing. Maybe not. We'll see.
At&t kept the iphone exclusively for its own company for how many years?
Alot of my friends who are on T-mobile did so specifically because T-mobile has a better selection of phone plans for the working class. And I feel like they're not trying to screw me over with excess charges.
Back in the day, if you didn't like At&t, then fine, you still had T-mobile. But now it's not even possible to fight back against the merger.
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I'm happy with at&t. Great customer service and great reception!. But why does everyone want to fight the merge? If anything it will boost t mobile
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I'm against the merger because compared to T-mobile EVERYTHING ABOUT AT&T SUCKS! Their prices, customer service, phone selection...I mean AT&T ONLY RECENTLY got the Nexus S....I've had it on T-Mobile since Dec....
Silly people are silly.
I had T-Mobile for over 8 years and a year ago i switched to AT&T and got my captivate. I can say that I get much better 3g coverage, and much better 3g speeds in general. Yeah customer service isn't exactly the best but they help me with any issues I've had with them so far. But I am in the LA/OC area so I'm sure this is one of their most developed networks. But I remember on T-Mobile I would be stuck on Edge about half the time.
Everyone is different...but in MY AREA...T-Mo beats AT&T BY A MILE especially in coverage AND speed...not to mention I have the option to pay 60$ for 10GBs versus AT&T and their crappy 4GB for 45$....or I could stay with 5GB for 20$
#justsayin
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I ran away to Sprint... >.>;
Real unlimited, and wimax is fast around here.
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I ran away to Sprint... >.>;
Real unlimited, and wimax is fast around here.
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I wish I got 4g here. Sprint has been great other then that. Never had an issue that I couldn't get taken care of in a few minutes.
The AT&T / T-MOBILE Merger fell through .. YAY !!!
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The AT&T / T-MOBILE Merger fell through .. YAY !!!
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Now to get raped by at&t! Lol
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what? the xda home page says its falling apart... DOJ files against ATT
Mostly, I'm happy that the DOJ will attempt to block the merger, just on the basis that this merger will REDUCE the competition in the USA, to just AT&T, Verizon & Sprint, with a couple of smaller regional carriers left over.
On the down side, at&t "pledged" to bring around 5,000 jobs back to the USA, but, I'd take that with a grain of salt. AT&T wants this merger, because it would be cheaper to buy out t-mobile, than spend the money building out their 4G network.
AT&T is just cheap. Multi year profits, but they won't INVEST in their network.
As for the jobs coming back to the USA. They say that, but how many t-mobile jobs would be lost after a merger.
We are pretty much in the USA, held hostage now by Verizon & AT&T.
I've been with T-Mobile for over 10-years..... My monthly bill, including tax, is $67. That's 2000 minutes, free mobile-to-mobile, unlimited text / data and handset protection insurance. My wife's iPhone 4 on aTnT with 750 minutes, no insurance and limited texts is $128-something.... To make matters worse, my unlocked Streak running on T-Mobile's 2G network is usually FASTER than her iPhone on the DeathStar's "3G" network and I can't remember the last time I had a dropped call.
Having worked in PAC-fund management for many years, I wish this move by the Justice Dept. actually meant something.... I'm afraid it's just a placebo that may only lead to more detailed disclosure on aTnT's part, and a slight delay in the transaction.... but I seriously doubt the deal will be permanently stopped... We're just looking at DOJ's window dressing at the moment
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ShEEsh...... I really, REALLY hope I'm dead wrong about this.... I don't want to see my monthly bill double and get less than half the minutes and downright horrifying service from aTnT
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If the merger goes through I will probably go to Sprint or Verizon, who ever gets the iphone 5 when it comes out. I will NEVER use AT&T. I would go with MetroPCS, Boost, Virgin, a Walmart phone, a 7-eleven phone or ?? before I go to AT&T ..
I am preparing myself to hate my future phones if the merger goes through.
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If the merger goes through I will probably go to Sprint or Verizon, who ever gets the iphone 5 when it comes out. I will NEVER use AT&T. I would go with MetroPCS, Boost, Virgin, a Walmart phone, a 7-eleven phone or ?? before I go to AT&T ..
I am preparing myself to hate my future phones if the merger goes through.
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Virgin Motorola triumph is what I'll be looking at if it goes through. Decent phone and I'll save money for sure.
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I was talking to a bunch of reps who happened to be in the radio shack store at my mall one day. Man where they so pissed about this merger. It would basically put Verizon and More than any SPRINT at the hands of AT&T's power. They were telling me something along the lines that it would most likely not happen because of a monopoly through AT&T even if they kept T-Mobile separate. It has something to do with Sprint buying T-Mobiles wavebands(or something like that) and if the merger went through they would no longer be able to have 4G at the rate T-Mobile was giving them but at a higher rate through AT&T. Essentially making Sprint have to put caps on data and raise rates. I have been an AT&T customer for about 15yrs now and have had very little problems with them to be honest. Yes the occasional dropped calls but no more than others have reported on other carriers. I will stay by them for as long as I can but they are starting to look very snudy!
Might not have a choice. If (when) the merger goes through, even though they say they won't, Verizon will make a play for Sprint (CDMA) to stay "competitive".
That will leave AT&T & Verizon as pretty much, the only 2 nationwide carriers.
The "agreements" between AT&T & Verizon, and the boost/virgin/walmart will probably go away (they are just being nice right now).
AT&T has spent the last 25 years reconstituting itself and has just about achieved it's goal of putting MaBell back together. Once it happens, you think prices are high & choice is poor now, just look out.
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If the merger goes through I will probably go to Sprint or Verizon, who ever gets the iphone 5 when it comes out. I will NEVER use AT&T. I would go with MetroPCS, Boost, Virgin, a Walmart phone, a 7-eleven phone or ?? before I go to AT&T ..
I am preparing myself to hate my future phones if the merger goes through.
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Why not just boycott the mofos then..? If only the U.S. citizens could band together we could easily control them. Without demand there is no resource for supply. Without supply there is no profit. Without profit there is no "MaBell". Make a boycott petition type deal. We can always start mass blogging and twitting to get started and word of mouuth and social networking will take the rest. With a set date and a little reassurance we could beat them down and pit em in their places, our servants of cellular communication, not as our f##$ing little to nothing no good capped and limited data sum butchering butt poking bafoon looking providers.
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There's very few alternatives for GSM, At&t and tmo own the vast majority of the towers. The few towers owned by 3rd parties are regional, so unless they all have sharing agreements you'll either be roaming or using at&t or tmo's towers out of region.
Towers dont magically sprout up out of nowhere, most cell providors that arnt tmo or at&t lease airtime off them or verizon or sprint. they could literally kill all their contracts and still stay afloat by selling airtime (this is oversimplified, i honestly dont know if they can be long-term viable, but short term definitely)
The only way to get really good cell service is to be a billionare and start your own company where you can dictate terms as pretty much every carrier on the planet has it's own issues and quirks (and moving to another country for good cell service is crazy)
Online petitions are what you DONT do to get stuff done. You're literally better off not giving a damn then using online petitions. Unless you can get several dozen million esignatures it's not worth anything.
Really don't envy the GSM situation over in the states.
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A petition doesn't get things done...? You ever read how class-axtion lawsuits are started...? Lol if say 10 million people all agreed to stop paying December 1st on their bills till they are satisfied with the compensation the cell provider will offer Wed get what we wanted. If there is no demand you cannot supply. Plain old economics people. 11th grade general class....
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Signing a petition would only show a general public dislike of the proposed merger..... Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with and cannot stop capitalism run amuck.... Regardless of the DoJ's disapproval of the deal, only the FCC alone can stop the deal by refusing to reassign T-Mobile's wireless spectrum over to aTnT..... However, all aTnT needs to do is pressure Congress (through campaign contributions), to support the deal (by saying it will create 5,000 new jobs in this economic downturn)...... But everyone knows there's no law that would prohibit aTnT from laying off tens of thousands after the deal is done. As much as I HATE aTnT, this deal WILL go through, unfortunately
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I recently switched from T-Mobile to Verizon to get myself a Galaxy Nexus. I became severely ticked off when I found out that Verizon had messed with the wifi hotspot feature - it asked me to pay $20 per month to tether. I had been tethering for free with my Nexus One on T-Mobile. I thought phones branded as Nexus were supposed to be free from carrier modifications, but I guess that is no longer true.
This annoyance has sparked a deeper question for me of which company is the lesser of two evils, T-Mobile or Verizon. Verizon obviously has the coverage edge in the USA, but T-Mobile appears to have a less draconian business style. Being an idealist, I find it hard to give my money to Verizon. They are just too stubborn and usually do things that make me mad. T-Mobile seems a bit less harsh, but also may lack in coverage performance.
So, all of you fellow developers out there, to whom should I give my business, Verizon or T-Mobile? Please vote.
No brainer, TMOUSA!
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Birdsfan said:
No brainer, TMOUSA!
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The thanks is more of a thumbs up lol
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Verizon. I can get better coverage, faster data if I wanna go 4g lte. And I can tether straight from cm7. No restrictions. Verizon is continuing to prove to me that they really ARE America's most reliable network. And I'm happy.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
watt9493 said:
Verizon. I can get better coverage, faster data if I wanna go 4g lte. And I can tether straight from cm7. No restrictions. Verizon is continuing to prove to me that they really ARE America's most reliable network. And I'm happy.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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I wouldn't mind Verizon, if they didn't do things like charge an extra $2 just to give them money.
MartyLK said:
I wouldn't mind Verizon, if they didn't do things like charge an extra $2 just to give them money.
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They retracted that fee because of customer backlash. You're fine.
I'm using Verizon now and am not having any issues whatsoever. Great coverage and it's only gone down maybe once the entire time that I've been with them.
CraigLloyd said:
They retracted that fee because of customer backlash. You're fine.
I'm using Verizon now and am not having any issues whatsoever. Great coverage and it's only gone down maybe once the entire time that I've been with them.
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I know the fee was retracted. But for a company to attempt that says a lot about their desired business practices.
watt9493 said:
Verizon. I can get better coverage, faster data if I wanna go 4g lte. And I can tether straight from cm7. No restrictions. Verizon is continuing to prove to me that they really ARE America's most reliable network. And I'm happy.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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Most reliable...? Haven't they had like 3 data outages within the last month?
Yea, here's a link. http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/28/verizon-customers-dealing-with-third-data-outage-in-one-month/
If you get coverage with tmo, go tmo. It's cheaper, not as locked down, the customer service is better, it's just awesome. The second tmo gets a high end WP7 device from Nokia, I'm headed back.
T-mo USA for sure. Their CS is AMAZING compared to anyone else. Better prices, better phone selection. GMS > CDMA. Tethering is a smaller issue, but less of with T-mo. I am rocking a family plan that is custom/grandfathered thanks to T-mo. Basically unllimited everything, do't talk that much but everything is included.
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T-mo USA for sure. Their CS is AMAZING compared to anyone else. Better prices, better phone selection. GMS > CDMA. Tethering is a smaller issue, but less of with T-mo. I am rocking a family plan that is custom/grandfathered thanks to T-mo. Basically unllimited everything, do't talk that much but everything is included.
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I disagree about T-Mo's phone selection, at least here in the US. Verizon and AT&T definitely have a much larger selection. Verizon has more Androids and AT&T more WP7.
Both companies are evil. Verizon is just more likely to get away with it.
I've had my fair share of luck with VZW, but everyone has their own experiences.
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I disagree about T-Mo's phone selection, at least here in the US. Verizon and AT&T definitely have a much larger selection. Verizon has more Androids and AT&T more WP7.
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I agree. I'd actually put Verizon and maybe Sprint up there. AT&T still isn't completely on the ball with new phones. T-Mo not really up there.
Tmo.
one of the best customer service around and fair prices.
around my area I get better coverage then my friends on Verizon.
I'd have to say though far as latest phones go, Verizon has the best selection.
Tmous is getting better but not up to par to Verizon or Sprint, heck, AT&T too.
but they're starting to get pretty good phone selection as of late, which I'm happy about but definitely not there yet...
hopefully they make some serious strides on this front. it would make them complete.
T-Mobile may not be as "evil" as Verizon, but their network is an absolute joke compared to Big Red. Switching to Verizon from T-Mo was one of the best decisions that I made.
T-mobile is cheaper, and in New York, I'm pretty much covered. I've even gone so far as to get service while underground in a train station. Of course, Verizon is probably better in the coverage department.
I get 2gbs unlimited high speed data for 10$, and when that runs out, it just becomes regular internet without any extra fees. I've never went over 2 gigabytes of data. Never any lag or anything of that sort with data.
I've also been able to reduce my bill because of some unknown charges without any hassle. I've had great customer service, personally, although many others will justifiably argue otherwise.
T-mobile doesn't have the BEST arsenal of phones, but they usually get the ones I want.
I like my 60$ a month bill that includes unlimited messaging, data, and night/weekend minutes. Else where, I'd be paying close to 100$ for less than what I have now. Paying more for less doesn't sit well for me. =p
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Most reliable...? Haven't they had like 3 data outages within the last month?
Yea, here's a link. http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/28/verizon-customers-dealing-with-third-data-outage-in-one-month/
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I haven't been affected by that. When I am, ill change my stance.
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AT&T gave me my unlock code for my W810i over the phone. T-Mobile still hasn't email me my unlock code for my HD2 ! Been 5 days
Verizon is the most expensive and most restrictive carrier in the United States. CDMA phones are a nightmare. You can't import phones, they have the least amount of devs, they are huge into their bull**** "droid" line in which their biggest feature is a............locked bootloader! The nexus is even worse on verizon. Thicker housing, bad signal, verizon apps...Go ahead and talk about your LTE...most of us including myself get HSPA+ which is now supporting speeds up to 42 mbps. And really..with data caps, how many of us don't use wi-fi when we can? I can go on about this all day, Verizon is just that bad...