Wifi performance. - Atrix 4G General

I used to own an Atrix and got rid of it because of the Wifi performance and a couple of other minor things. I'm wondering though, if I loaded a custom rom, could it literally improve the Wifi performance?
On my Inspire, the Wifi strength got better when I loaded cm7. Has anyone that's loaded cm7 on their Atrix noticed an improvement in Wifi performance?
I would literally have to hold the Atrix in landscape orientation to pick up signal at work where my iPhone 4 and Inspire can pick it up regularly.
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I'd have to say that your particular phone had a problem. Mine has awesome wifi strength. Way better than my Tilt2 or iPhone 3GS....and way faster since it's "n".

Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Yes, unfortunately the atrix wifi range isn't that good. I have trouble picking up signal where others do so easily.
I wonder if the antenna is too small... would it be possible to "embed" a wire inside the back cover and connect it to the regular antenna to create a makeshift range extender?
Edit: iI think the phone's radio has influence over wifi reception, but it can only go so far. Might not be 'improveable' as much as we'd like to.

s1mpd1ddy said:
Haven't noticed a difference in roms and wifi performance....
My 3gs hasvway better range then ny ATRIX ... so sad.
Still ... its not an issue since I have pretty good 3g coverage in my area.
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Very sad yes. I work in a lead lined building and have no service whatsoever, I completely rely on Wifi.
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That'd be your particular device's problem. Atrix got best wifi performance IMHO. Very fast and responsive. SpeedTest.net results shows that with the wifi at my home, my XT720 returns a speed of 7~8 Mbps where Atrix always returns 12~16 Mbps of speed.

I'd say the reduction in range is due to the improvement in speed.
My Atrix get's my wifi signal about 20m through 4-5 concrete walls, occasionally I've also noticed it get's it through 3 levels in my apartment building, though I don't have anything else to compare it too.

seh6183 said:
Maybe I should use the term range not performance.
I had 3 different Atrix's and they had the same range and were all dead in the same spots.
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I doubt a ROM will significantly improve the wifi range on the Atrix, more of hardware thing IMO.
Same behavior for me at work too. My old BB 8900 can hold onto the weak wifi signal (around 80-90dbm) better than my Atrix. If I run too much data on wifi on the Atrix, the wifi will throw too many errors and disconnect. I ran logcat to see all of the fun stuff going on to figure this out.
Fortunately work is upgrading the wireless network soon .

There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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beatphreek said:
There has been several radio firmware packages released since you got rid of yours I think. The latest AT&T one (1.77.30P) definitelly made things better all around for me.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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I wish there was a way to test this without going out and buying a phone.
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The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.

My wifi is awesome and all I have are access to g routers. Speed and distance.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

gnahc79 said:
The new radio helps the range a little vs the radio in 2.2.2 for me. The wifi disconnects less frequently, but it still disconnects from time to time. If you rely solely on wifi it's not worth it IMO.
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I agree. Thank you for the info.
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No working GPS? No problem. No froyo? No problem. Bad reception? Problem

First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
I'm on the newest DL09 and the problem is still there. Bad reception. I'm serious when I say I get full 3g bars maybe 1% of the time, and I'm dead center in a verizon 3g area. I've never seen a signal jump around as much as on the fascinate. It will switch between 3g and 1x constantly throughout the day, and when it's on 3g it looks like the bars are dancing all day long because they just jump around.
My original Droid will have a steady 5 bars pretty much all day. Fascinate...not even close. It's getting ridiculous actually. I can download updates for apps on my droid no problem, but I actually wait til I get home on my wifi to download updates on my fascinate. I constantly get "stuck" loading a page on the net because of the ridiculous reception.
Now my question is...is there any fix out there that actually works that I might have skipped over? Good reception is a HUGE thing, especially when I'm dead center in a 3g area, and the fascinate doesn't have it. I'm thinking about selling it in the next few days because it's absolutely crazy.
People complain all day long about the GPS and no froyo...and I'm actually confused as to why many do not complain about the reception. That's the biggest issue with the phone IMO.
Thanks for any help.
Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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My friends has the same issue, and I've seen people complain about it before. So I think it's a fairly common issue.
brian85 said:
First off I'd like to say I'm thankful for everything the devs here do. I've tried the 3g fix and it didn't do anything, so now I'm just curious if there is anything else out there that fixes it.
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Thanks for any help.
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I'm assuming you tried the reprogramming codes?
http://www.ehow.com/how_4532332_reprogram-verizon-phone.html
probably the 1st thing you tried, but just checking. I know for me, i went from being in the -102 range (1 bar) to -89 range (2 to 3) at work. Also at home i went from -92 to -51 (MAX)
You did option 2 correct?
Just did option 2 and it seems to have done nothing. Going back and forth between -96 and -101
If you dont see people compalining about reception, its largely due to the fact that the phone doesnt really suffer from reception issues. If I were you, I'd call verizon and make a formal complaint about the hardware restricting your usage, I'm sure they will work with you.
I'm a sales rep at a Verizon corporate store, 4 of my co-workers have Fascinates and we ALL experience a MAJOR difference in signal quality compared to co-workers with Droid X's and Droid 2's...
There's a five page thread on droidforums (fascinate section) about every single person in that thread having reception issues on the fascinate. And if you do a "fascinate reception issue" search on google, there are threads everywhere about that.
I just have a feeling everyone is focused on froyo and GPS so that's why reception isn't brought up much. I highly doubt, with as many people that have this problem, that it's just a problem on some of the galaxy s phones.
agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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agreed bro i lose signal from my bars are really sporadic
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Yeah it's very frustrating.
What's even more frustrating is even when I get 4 full bars I only get -89 on the mobile signal widget..that's far from max reception.
I've never had reception problems per se but I have full bars and 73 dbm. Also for some reason my 3g download rate is nerfed. Earlier today on speed test got 63 kbps and 462 ping dunno why. Mostly hovers in the 300kbps range
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Have you actually tried contacting Verizon about it? It sounds like you've got an antenna issue, which should be pretty easily addressed with a phone swap.
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I've had two phones now, and they both have very poor signal strength. Comparing my Fascinate to a friends Droid, sitting just a few inches apart, he had a dbm in the mid to high -70's, while mine was in the high -90's.
If you're in a solid coverage area, it gets fine reception and you're not likely to see the problem, but as you travel into a lower signal area, the Fascinate trails off very, very sharply. Even though I live in an area with supposedly blanket coverage, my house is towards the bottom of a small hill and I typically get zero or 1 bars on the display, every once in a while 2, but it'll drop back to 1 or 0 as soon as I pick the phone it.
The Fascinate does have a very week antennae design.
I rarely see 3 or 4 bars...come to think of it, I don't think i've ever seen 3 or 4 bars. This is when I'm in an area which should definitely have excellent coverage.
OP: do you have actual symptoms of poor signal like slow down/up load or dropped calls?
My speed tests when i have 1bar 3G are about 800Mbits up and 500Mbits down. Never dropped a call (rarely make calls, though). I have read that some folks suspect that the Fascinate has reporting issues? I don't know...but since I'm not seeing horrible speeds I've tried ignoring the fact that its always reporting 1-2 bars.
Kind of similar to the TWoS thing. I chased this one for a little bit too before dismissing it as a reporting issue (for now).
I originally was upset about the reception but came to realize that the office building I work in is built like a bunker. Other then when I am in the center of the building I get good reception, at my desk near a window I get 1-3 bars. However anytime other then when I am in this building I almost always have full bars.
However I have noticed that when I am in my office what ever bars I get my friends droid gets one more. But when it comes down to that it isn't Verizon...again the problem is with Samsung.
Hey guys,
what if I did option 1 instead of option 2 in *228 reprogramming?
On another note, my 3g indicator constantly disappears in verizon hotspot areas, it is really quite the annoyance.
Are you on a stock kernel?
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Negative, I'm on Dl09 supah clean with adry's 12/30 test kernel.
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The reception for my Fascinate isn't spectacular. I don't know how it ranks among smart phones, but there is a definite difference between it and my chocolate 8550. In known holes in vzw's coverage I occasionally lose signal, but I don't use it as a phone enough to drop many calls.
However, I spend the majority of my time in strong signal environs, so it doesn't really come up as an issue for me, and I just accept it. It will be a decision factor for my next phone though.
Maybe others have a similar situation: worse yes, but liveable.
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
I have noticed the signal over the past 24 hours has been jumping all over the place like Verizon may be running tests or something. The drop being very consistent intervals of no bars but still 3g.
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My brother has Fascinate as do I and out of the Box his got 2 more bars than mine and his almost always has more signal.
Remember this was before I started rooting and all that.
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Improve wifi performance

This is the lamest "mod" ever.
If you are experiencing dropped wifi because you are just barely within signal (like I am at work), holding the phone in landscape orientation with the backlit hardware keys on the right will increase your wifi signal by two bars. Im assuming the chip is on the right side of the phone.
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I definitely got to try this on Monday....my wifi signal sucks @ work:-(
Mine does the opposite.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
Lol it works and I'm sat next to the router! How bizarre.
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Tennis11 said:
Mine does the opposite.
Never live in the past but always learn from it.
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Maybe it depends on router location. Both orientations should be tried. This saved me because holding the phone upright drops signal every few minutes, but landscape is a solid 2
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makes sense that the wifi antenna is on the right since if it is plugged into a dock (left side down, where the hdmi/usb are), the wifi would be able to get the best signal....dont know this for a fact but makes sense
Room7 said:
makes sense that the wifi antenna is on the right since if it is plugged into a dock (left side down, where the hdmi/usb are), the wifi would be able to get the best signal....dont know this for a fact but makes sense
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Good point
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from my understanding,
the way antennas work is that they have a null/hole perpendicular to how they're pointed.
in other words, if the transmitting antenna is pointing straight up and down, then the receiving antenna should be pointing straight up and down for the best reception. otoh, for the WORST reception, the receiving antenna should then be pointing sideways (if the transmitting is pointing straight up and down.)
therefore, in a perfect world, if you wanted the best coverage...on a router with two antennas, you'd point one straight up and down, and another sideways. that way you have everything covered...the straight up and down, and the sideways...and everything inbetween.
but we don't live in a perfect world...and there are walls, reflections and cancellations...and so came the rise of the "rabbit ear" tv antenna position..two antennas pointed 45degrees off center...which is a compromise. each antenna is now more likely to pick up "something" vs "nothing". you may not get the best reception, but you won't get the worst...and you shouldn't get "holes".
and so with the atrix, it'd depend how the wifi antennas are situated vs how your router antennas are situated vs the wifi reflections off the walls, etc.
also, if you think about it, if the antennas are on the side...then in portrait mode your hands are covering the antennas, whereas in landscape mode you're not.
The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS
Khoops66 said:
The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS
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It's because of the location of the wifi chip on the phone. I get better signal with my Atrix lanscape, hardware keys to the right, than I could get with my iphone 4 in ANY orientation.
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Khoops66 said:
The atrix has N draft wireless and i have been less than impressed with the signal strength seeing as my iphone back in the day could get much better signal in identical situations. However this does not by any means diminish the awesomeness of android over iOS
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Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected
Jonnym said:
Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected
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This has not been my experience at all. My Atrix gets worse wifi connection under all circumstances compared to my iphone 4.
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Damn that does work..
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Jonnym said:
Im holding a new atrix an a new iphone4. Not only is the atrix reception better it can see 6 wifi networks, the iphone only 2.
On data 2g when in devon i was downloading apps and checking emails while the iphone couldnt get any reception on the same mobile supplier.
Jonnym
i like both phones and there os's but the atrix is far better connected
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I'm in Devon and just waiting on my Atrix to be delivered so I can move my IP4 back to 2nd / spare phone. where I work is right on the fringe area of 3g signal and i find the Iphone will hold onto 3g and end up dropping calls, when it should let it go and drop to 2g like most phones do when they are in the same place.
Its good to know in your experience the Atrix has better signal and hopefully in a couple hours I'll be able to post the same confirmation. I also have a wifi network close by our office that lappies can see but normally phones dont so will be interesting to see if the Atrix lists it.
Kevin
I would like to also confirm holding it sideways as mentioned really does seem to work! mad.
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Tinyk said:
I'm in Devon and just waiting on my Atrix to be delivered so I can move my IP4 back to 2nd / spare phone. where I work is right on the fringe area of 3g signal and i find the Iphone will hold onto 3g and end up dropping calls, when it should let it go and drop to 2g like most phones do when they are in the same place.
Its good to know in your experience the Atrix has better signal and hopefully in a couple hours I'll be able to post the same confirmation. I also have a wifi network close by our office that lappies can see but normally phones dont so will be interesting to see if the Atrix lists it.
Kevin
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Don't take my experience as a all encompassing rule. Where we were there is no 3g at all. My laptop is about the same on seeing the other networks as my Atrix but better at staying connected to them.
Any one had any luck using BTopenzone?

Wifi performance any better from 2 months ago?

So now that this phone has been released in multiple countries and there are over 6 million of them sold, can anyone confirm that the Wifi performance on the newer models has improved? Or has Samsung released any firmware updates for it?
I was following this phone about 2 months ago and almost everyone was reporting that Wifi performance was really bad compared to their other phones. I am very much reliant on Wifi so I chose to stop following the progress on this phone.
Has this changed though?
Please don't reply with "my Wifi is fine" because that will not help anyone and most likely the people who say that have no idea what they are talking about. If your Wifi seems to be comparable to your other smart phones, please let us know.
If not can you do some tests and tell us how fast the signal quality degrades and at how many feet from the router? Also don't go off the stock android Wifi meter please, use a real Wifi app if you're going to take the time to do some testing.
**I've just realized that my wording is very misleading. When I say Wifi performance I do not mean speed, I mean signal strength and quality of signal at marginal distances.**
Thanks for reading.
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I was going to tell you about my experience, until I read that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
My wifi is fine.
Exidrion said:
I was going to tell you about my experience, until I read that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
My wifi is fine.
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Lol, bet tons of replies will be like this. My wi-fi is fine too, stock android meter with TP-Link n class router. Full strength in my router room, 3 lines in the most distant room with 3 walls between, something like 25 metres aways from the router (we do not use feet in Europe, we use metric units ). Please ignore my post if i don't know what i'm talking about
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Please don't reply with "my Wifi is fine" because that will not help anyone and most likely the people who say that have no idea what they are talking about.
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Way to make a general assumption there buddy...
I, for one, will tell you that my Wi-Fi has been just fine, and even better on my SGS2 than on my SGS.
And yes, I have done some testing comparing signal strength on both phones.
However, I do realize that quite a few people have reported wi-fi issues on their SGS2. I don't know if it was a software issue or hardware though.
Personally I would considere those as defective units, because there are people with Wi-Fi working just fine, and contrary to what you believe, they do know what they are talking about.
Do you think I came in here and made this up off the top of my head?
Hey way to go! Come on in and say your Wifi is just fine and AS I SAID, do nothing to prove it.
Good job guys, thumbs up!
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seh6183 said:
Do you think I came in here and made this up off the top of my head?
Hey way to go! Come on in and say your Wifi is just fine and AS I SAID, do nothing to prove it.
Good job guys, thumbs up!
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Really, don't you want people to film themselves while they move with the phone x meters away from the router just to prove you it works fine and upload it on youtube ?
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Really, don't you want people to film themselves while they move with the phone x meters away from the router just to prove you it works fine and upload it on youtube ?
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That's exactly what I was hoping for. Boy you sgs users are sharp!
Or there's -db....
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Well, I did do some tests, even took some screenshots whilst using wifi analyser, but having read your posts again....
I think this should suffice: My wifi is fine.But then, I don't know anything, which is ironic seeing as I'm in networking......
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1m away from router and the second is 5m away, through one partition wall.
Bear in mind, this (Linksys by Cisco WAG320N) is my router, and its set to 5ghz.
seh6183 said:
That's exactly what I was hoping for. Boy you sgs users are sharp!
Or there's -db....
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http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/ir/corporategovernance/boardofdirectors/IR_GeeSungChoi.html
The person above you'll gladly share his detailed wi-fi experience with you.
My only gripe is that the wifi range on the S2 is really low, my netbook severely out ranges it.
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Well, I did do some tests, even took some screenshots whilst using wifi analyser, but having read your posts again....
I think this should suffice: My wifi is fine.But then, I don't know anything, which is ironic seeing as I'm in networking......
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1m away from router and the second is 5m away, through one partition wall.
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How does this compare to any other smart phones you have tested under similar circumstances?
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My only gripe is that the wifi range on the S2 is really low, my netbook severely out ranges it.
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Now this is more in line with what I've been hearing. Again, without testing and comparison, there is no way to know that his s2 really does have less range or maybe that his netbook doesn't have excellent range, or that both of his readings are false because of OS discrepancies.
See the point of my first post yet?
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How does this compare to any other smart phones you have tested under similar circumstances?
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Bearing in mind my previous phones were using the 2.4ghz signal, I would say that that the S2 has better range....but that is a little subjective seeing as I never tested thorughly on the previous phones. I do think that the S2's reception has improved with the advent of newer firmware/modems. I currently run villainrom 2.1, with the kg3 modem.
I can get signal in my garden, about 15 meters away,1-2 bars with the s2.My streak would barely make a connection, it would be intermittent. My Galaxy 7" tab will hold a 1 bar signal. I never tested the hero(I was just so happy someone swapped it for my n97).
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Bearing in mind my previous phones were using the 2.4ghz signal, I would say that that the S2 has better range....but that is a little subjective seeing as I never tested thorughly on the previous phones. I do think that the S2's reception has improved with the advent of newer firmware/modems. I currently run villainrom 2.1, with the kg3 modem.
I can get signal in my garden, about 15 meters away,1-2 bars with the s2.My streak would barely make a connection, it would be intermittent. My Galaxy 7" tab will hold a 1 bar signal. I never tested the hero(I was just so happy someone swapped it for my n97).
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Ok great now this is what I like hearing. if one device can perform as well as this then im assuming most of them are as well. With 6 million+ units sold, im starting to think that ones complaining actually have defective units. Its just strange that they all seemed to be on xda lol
What country are you from? Is your phone possibly from the original batch of s2's released?
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Made an effort to download wi-fi analyzer specially for you Here are the screenshots, in the rooter room and 25 meters away from the router through 3 walls not made of concrete. Don't have any other wi-fi device to compare right now. Experience may very depending on the router brand, class, etc...
It's best to use a wifi channel that other routers in your area aren't using, to avoid interference. My sgs2 actually has a few meters more strength than my sgs and g2x.
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Made an effort to download wi-fi analyzer specially for you Here are the screenshots, in the rooter room and 25 meters away from the router through 3 walls not made of concrete. Don't have any other wi-fi device to compare right now. Experience may very depending on the router brand, class, etc...
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Seems decent from your explanation but it would be great to compare against a known good-functioning android device.
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Seems decent from your explanation but it would be great to compare against a known good-functioning android device.
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Only got a WM HTC Touch HD here, can't compare to any other android. Maybe others have more android devices, but like i said router brands/classes and phones' firmware vary too much to get an accurate comparison.
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Only got a WM HTC Touch HD here, can't compare to any other android. Maybe others have more android devices, but like i said router brands/classes and phones' firmware vary too much to get an accurate comparison.
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Which is why we take a phone that is known to have strong Wifi performance, such as an iPhone 4 or an Inspire, and compare in the same house under the same circumstances with the same router using Wifi analyzer.
Trust me if the sgs2 was in the states I would have already done it 15 times.
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New Galaxy SII owner on AT&T.

So I bricked my Infuse 4g two days ago to my complete and utter dismay. I really loved that phone, but saw it as an opportunity to pick up the elite Galaxy SII i-9100. I purchased from Amazon and the phone should arrive Tuesday.
I'm VERY excited to receive this amazing device. Is it worth installing custom roms on this beast, or because of the horsepower under the hood would you say it's pretty much flawless out of the box? I really don't want to gamble bricking another phone I paid $500+ for.
Also, I've never used an unlocked device before. On At&T everything functions properly?
Lastly, I don't know much about phone hardware. How is the graphics chip on this phone for playing 3D games? Is it top of the line? Better than Tegra 2?
Thanks guys.
Got mine from Amazon last week. Hated it at first due to short battery life, but after a few cycles, it calms down. With an unlocked phone, you just put your SIM in and go. Everything just works.
I have not totally decided if I will keep it since I have a Nexus S coming this week, but it certainly is impressive.
I'm pretty sure you will love it.
Here is an HD video I took yesterday of a fire by my house. Pretty amazing stuff...watch in 1080p.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7jF6hincA
The phone is very hard to brick, as long as you don't mess about with pits and put a sgs1 pit in (3 times and counting that's happened)
The phone is good out of the box, custom roms are mostly for theme customisation, and other nice tweaks.
As far as the gpu, it's more powerful than the tegra2 but lacks support for some of the texture and shader types that some games use (aka they use non standard ones), chainfire 3d can work around this, and there are lots of threads on the issue.
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I'm on dumphone Att $50 unlimited everything prepay.
So Internet data speeds are just crap.
Got a $35 Sprint Mifi and ride they're Wimax network.
SGSII flies...probably unlike any upcoming sG2's on the carriers.
Battery's a challenge, no doubt tho.
Need extended one to survive.
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The phone is very hard to brick, as long as you don't mess about with pits and put a sgs1 pit in (3 times and counting that's happened)
The phone is good out of the box, custom roms are mostly for theme customisation, and other nice tweaks.
As far as the gpu, it's more powerful than the tegra2 but lacks support for some of the texture and shader types that some games use (aka they use non standard ones), chainfire 3d can work around this, and there are lots of threads on the issue.
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Right said. it's pretty much flawless out of box and custom ROMs are a go only if you want themes, that is changed looks. GPU is far better than Tegra 2, and if fact, the best on mobiles.
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Right said. it's pretty much flawless out of box and custom ROMs are a go only if you want themes, that is changed looks. GPU is far better than Tegra 2, and if fact, the best on mobiles.
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Yup! But depending on what rom the phone comes with you may want to flash a upto date stock rom as the newer ones do improve battery life quite a bit
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veyka said:
Yup! But depending on what rom the phone comes with you may want to flash a upto date stock rom as the newer ones do improve battery life quite a bit
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That is what I noticed with my Infuse. Flashing one of the better built ROMs for that phone increased battery life a solid 30-40% over stock and it was very noticeable in day to day usage.
I've heard the SII is a MONSTER when it comes to battery consumption. So I guess on that front alone it's worth installing a ROM.
I'm telling you though, I'm admitting my n00bishness and sharing my concern over possibly bricking the device.
SaosinEngaged said:
That is what I noticed with my Infuse. Flashing one of the better built ROMs for that phone increased battery life a solid 30-40% over stock and it was very noticeable in day to day usage.
I've heard the SII is a MONSTER when it comes to battery consumption. So I guess on that front alone it's worth installing a ROM.
I'm telling you though, I'm admitting my n00bishness and sharing my concern over possibly bricking the device.
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The SGS2 is virtually unbrickable, just don't put a .pit file in, or flash a SGS1 rom and pit (has been done, 3 times!).
There are really good guides to flashing roms using odin.
That sounds great. I saw Lite'ning ROM on the list and I really like the look. What do you guys think of that one?
Thanks everyone for the responses.
Question.
So I received my Galaxy SII and it's pretty much a work of art. I performed the APN settings fix and notice that my H+ icon is not always on. More often than not, it shows a 3G icon at the top.
My Infuse did not exhibit this behavior, it always displayed an H+ icon.
Does this mean the Infuse did not properly display when it was using a 3G connection and not connecting to the HSPA+ Backhaul network, or does it mean my Galaxy SII isn't properly connecting to H+?
Which is it?
Thanks guys.
Also, how do I know if I have the correct data plan for 4G?
I selected the 4GB data plan when I got my Infuse. 2GB isn't enough for me.
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Question.
So I received my Galaxy SII and it's pretty much a work of art. I performed the APN settings fix and notice that my H+ icon is not always on. More often than not, it shows a 3G icon at the top.
My Infuse did not exhibit this behavior, it always displayed an H+ icon.
Does this mean the Infuse did not properly display when it was using a 3G connection and not connecting to the HSPA+ Backhaul network, or does it mean my Galaxy SII isn't properly connecting to H+?
Which is it?
Thanks guys.
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The SGS2 will swap between 3G and H+, dropping down to 3G to save battery life, and up again when needed.
Depending on the modem, it will swap more or less.
Its as intended, its a battery saving feature.
SaosinEngaged said:
Also, how do I know if I have the correct data plan for 4G?
I selected the 4GB data plan when I got my Infuse. 2GB isn't enough for me.
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If you are getting H+ you have the right plan, AT&T "4G" is H+
Also does anyone have a link to the S2 USB drivers? I'm so far unable to find them.
Download the Kies...
I think it'll install your USB drivers
http://www.samsung.com/ca/support/m...softwaremanual.do?page=MOBILE.SOFTWARE.MANUAL
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Question.
So I received my Galaxy SII and it's pretty much a work of art. I performed the APN settings fix and notice that my H+ icon is not always on. More often than not, it shows a 3G icon at the top.
My Infuse did not exhibit this behavior, it always displayed an H+ icon.
Does this mean the Infuse did not properly display when it was using a 3G connection and not connecting to the HSPA+ Backhaul network, or does it mean my Galaxy SII isn't properly connecting to H+?
Which is it?
Thanks guys.
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Working as intended It drops the HSPA+ connection when you're not using it and defaults back to UMTS (3G). It's meant to save battery, but depending on your usage pattern, it could actually negatively impact battery life with the constant disconnect/reconnects
I also came from the Infuse (selected after I destroyed my Captivate) believe it or not I really enjoyed the Infuse and I didn't realize it until I got the SGSII. I had loaded the Ginger flavor of the Infused ROM and things were great to me even stock with Froyo things ran well - decent speed and smooth (better than my overclocked Captivate) I am in the process of either returning the Infuse before 30 days or selling it after picking up the SGSII.
Now that I have the SGSII I miss the huge 4.5 inch screen but I am impressed with the speed and experience of TW4 as I have never used Touchwiz in the past. I got mine from Newegg (didn't have a seal on the box like others have said they noticed too) Less than an hour I had DG's Cog ROM on it since there were already a few things I didn't like (I'm picky) If I had to pick one to leave stock out of the box to enjoy it would be the SGSII hands down. As posted previously these are hard to brick and become a lot of fun to ROM, customize, and theme which turns into addicting. Enjoy!
*edit- I am also on AT&T - in my area the Infuse did stay on H+ more but I notice the same speeds from the SGSII (about 1 hour south of Atlanta Georgia) also the Infuse was better at retaining signal & seemed to drop in less areas where I normally drop a call. While I have both phones in my hands I do plan on making a video about them - NOT to compare but to point out a few pros and cons & share some experiences as I'm sure someone else will be in this boat too.
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Also does anyone have a link to the S2 USB drivers? I'm so far unable to find them.
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There in my 4shared, hit the icon in my sig.
Or you can get them from kies.
The switching from H+ to 3G is normal; it switches to H+ only when the connection is actively transmitting/receiving data. At least that's what I've seen & read here.
What kinds of speeds are you getting? In my neighborhood in suburban Atlanta, I usually get around 4 Mbps, but have gotten as high as 7.
I made a new topic as I accidentally forgot about this one, but my network speeds are pretty poor.
I'm averaging about 1-2 mbps where I averaged 5-7ish on my Infuse. This is with the APN fix and in the same areas in central NJ.
SaosinEngaged said:
I made a new topic as I accidentally forgot about this one, but my network speeds are pretty poor.
I'm averaging about 1-2 mbps where I averaged 5-7ish on my Infuse. This is with the APN fix and in the same areas in central NJ.
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What modem are you using? As I have found huge variation depending on modem, from Down/Up 50Kbps/200Kbps (odd) to 400Kbs/215Kbps in the same place at the same time.
Here is all the data I have collected on modems, note this is for the 3UK network in the UK, but it shows what I mean.

[Q] Anyone one else think the radio on the Nexus 4 is sub par?

I've definitely noticed a decrease in service compared to my previous phones, especially the T-Mobile Galaxy SIII. I'm not sure if its poor Radio firmware, or the materials, but it's a noticeable drop. Using a signal booster in my house, I used to get full bars in my bathroom just two rooms away on the GSIII. The Nexus 4 barely gets 1.
Anyone else having issues, and does anyone know if newer radio firmware will be released soon?
feels the same for me, if not better than my galaxy nexus.
Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
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Yeah, my connection cuts out quite frequently. It's pretty annoying
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I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
ogrillion said:
I can't really compare how my reception is with my nexus since I am on a new provider, but I did notice something odd with how many bars I have. I assume there is some kind of battery saving function because when I am not really using data I will see 3G, as soon as I use data though it will switch to H. But what I noticed is when I am on 3G I will have like 2 bars service, but when the phone switches over to H I have full or close to it..
Maybe thats normal just thought it was odd?
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Normal. Saves data. That's how T-mobile does it. Not sure about the bar part, unless it's switching towers for some reason? Ha.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.
Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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In my case, it's the opposite. It's the best smartphone in terms of service quality. maybe because I'm in Belgium !
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Yes it's noticeably worse than any other smartphone I've owned.
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Weren't you the one that dropped yours in the toilet? If so I don't think you qualify anymore for bug reports
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I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
I notice 2 things, 1) in general the reception is lower (4bars with my sensation/hd2 = 3bars on my n4) but I haven't done any real testing so it could be the bars are incorrect 2) big death grip problem, as soon as I grab the phone the reception drops and can cause a call to drop
For the most part I get good reception but yeah in certain parts of the house the phone is unusable.
I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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h.nocturna said:
I seem to be having the same reception problem the iPhone 4 had, namely that when I hold the phone, I lose reception.
Flat on desk: -82dBm
Fingers on either side of phone, still flat on desk: -99dBm.
Is anyone else getting the same phenomenon or is it just me? I wanna do a replacement if it's just me, but if it's something that everyone is experiencing, then I'll live with it.
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Same, going from -77 to -85dBm
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Keep in mind that bars mean nothing. Check the dBm / asu, the lower the better. Over ~110 things get dicey/unusable.
When I had my N4 on AT&T, it got better reception than my Capitvate and Atrix 2. I'm on T-Mobile now, and I'm still experimenting.
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I wonder if a simple bumper fix will do
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I have a tpu case on mine and it hasn't made a difference, actually the thing that works for me is switching to 2G + wifi when I'm home and of course 3G when out and about, I just wish nfc task launcher or tasker could access that "toggle" on the stock rom.
Hi
Different phone different reception patterns. No two phones will be exactly the same in terms of their signal strength, you might find an improvement compared to a previous phone, you might find it is worse, most will see no difference and it's very dependant on environment. I've seen no difference personally. Given some time and feedback from various carriers can improve things with radio updates, such as the phone being more or less aggressive in switching between cells, or protocol fixes that help prevent drop outs during higher error rates when the signal is lower and cleaner/quicker hand-off to adjacent cells.
It should be noted the main antenna is at the bottom of the phone like most mobiles these days, so holding it at the bottom cupped in the palm of your hand will see the signal reduce and battery consumption increase as it tries to transmit through flesh. There are diversity antennas towards the top of the phone, but these are for reception only and do not transmit.
A bumper is unlikely to help unless it was extremely large to make the distance between a hand and the antenna several inches! The iPhone was a different issue, it was because the antennas were not insulated and were being de-tuned and shorted by being touched when the phone was held.
Regards
Phil

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