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does anybody have a major problem with hero lagging. It is really annoying. I was wondering if rooting the hero can fix this problem. If not do you guys think the 2.1 update will fix it.
What ROM are you running? What apps do you normally have running in the background? Are you using a Task Killer that automatically kills apps on a set time frame? Have you tried doing a factory reset/wipe to see if it makes a difference? And finally, where do you see the lag the most? Is it in a particular application, or are you judging the "lagginess" based on moving back and forth from your home screens in SenseUI?
Answering ALL of these questions will help us understand what you're seeing a little better. Your question is a little vague, and your answers will probably help you get some more support from folks on here.
Thanks!
My phone was laggy too. I rooted it and put the fresh rom on it and I saw a big improvement in overall performance. Still not as fast as my old iphone 3gs, but I would never go back. I also don't use task manager anymore. It always runs in the background and drains your battery faster.
I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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I was having the same issue.. and I narrowed it down to Handcent(SMS) of all things..
phone was fast until I installed it.. then it ran like a dog.... then I uninstalled handcent and speed it actually usable now..
I would like to see confirmation of this from others as well..
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Yeah handcent killed me, made the phone not just a dog, but a wounded dog born with 2 legs. 10x worse than the stock hero app, which is bad.
I'm running handcent, but I haven't noticed any specific slowdowns from it. It can take a while to load the main handcent screen when you have lots and lots of texts in there, but I usually clear them out when I get over 100 or so anyway.
Check to see that you have the most recent version of Handcent. I think I read that there was a performance bug related to their special "with Christmas animations" holiday release (that has since been fixed).
Also, remember to clear the boot-cache directory and reboot after upgrading apps ('rm -r /data/boot-cache/*'; reboot). The Hero has problems with caching apps after upgrades (so you aren't actually running the upgrade version). I have no idea if this was fixed in the newer ROMS. I'm running Fresh and still do it, as it only takes a sec (if you have the android-sdk and root set up).
Turning off HandCent popup notifications resulted in a substantial performance increase for me. Which is good, as I really like the features HC adds (such as voice-to-text).
I had the latest version and it was always cleared out sms wise. and I never used popup notifications.. they were annoying.. and I just got a fresh replacement of the Hero (warrantee) and its still on stock rom and Handcent still killed it.. in one day..
i have not rooted, pure stock phone. only app i think runs in background is email and loopt
I notice the lag from everything to sense UI to the clock taking 2-3 secs to update to my contacts scrolling, to text message lag, to calling even lags. like anything and everything can lag.
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
on your location settings turn off "network location" then reboot..your lag will be gone...and make sure you have a task manager installed too and end your apps so they take over your processor
Task managers are a waste of time.
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Task managers are a waste of time.
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I agree with this statement.
Sawawa said:
It all has to do with this bug in Android 1.5:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3453
I'm running AOSP 1.6 on my Hero right now and it is ridiculously fast.
So yes, I think that the 2.1 update (which hopefully will come out soon) is going to fix these issues for us.
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This is very true. I was running the 2.1 build from here the last few days (thought I had to revert due to missing some texts and voicemail) and it's much speedier. It uses the HTC keyboard, but it's much faster in its response, almost instantaneous. The location bug really does suck up a lot of CPU time.
Also, maybe its just me, but I think it's important to remember the kind of device we're using, the hardware involved, and what you're asking it to do. It's not like you're walking around with a quad core CPU and 4GB of RAM in your pocket, but it seems a lot of people think it should respond as if that's what it has. It's a phone, yes, and it should be able to do phone stuff quickly if possible, but look at all it can and is doing. If you need absolute speed, get a dumb phone that can't browse the web, play games, or do just about anything. It'll run just fine.
handcent never made my phone lag. The only thing that made my phone lag was HTC's battery widget. Damn thing slowed my phone down so I uninstalled it and phone is running back fast again. I still use task manager because I do notice once to many apps are open it lags. Don't care what anyone says it happens on my phone. I do have a lot of applications on ignore though.
Try disabling Location services.
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I used to wholeheartedly disagree with this statement, until I read a kickass article explaining how Android actively manages memory.
Now, I also agree with this statement 100%. I don't even use my paid task manager app anymore. :/
Hello everyone
I have been a loyal archos user for a year now, first with the a5IT and now the 70 internet tablet. As form factor I love the Archos 70 internet tab but the software is killing me it is so slow, what can I do to make it fast again?
speed tweaks
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Hello everyone
I have been a loyal archos user for a year now, first with the a5IT and now the 70 internet tablet. As form factor I love the Archos 70 internet tab but the software is killing me it is so slow, what can I do to make it fast again?
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What in particular is slow?
If scrolling home screens is slow, or icons are taking time to show up (or refresh) try a different launcher than the default. Popular ones lately have been Go Launcher, ADW.Launcher, and Zeam.
Are you using the most recent firmware update? (2.0.71 has sped the systems up quite a bit from the older versions)
http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/updates.html?country=us&lang=en&#firm
Are you using an SD card? (If so try adding a file named .nomedia to the card to reduce the gallery from spending time scanning).
Did you install Google Voice? (If not, you should refrain from it since, it is dragging down a lot of systems).
What speed (in settings) do you have your processor set to run. (The most responsive is the Overdrive setting).
If you want to know how to speed your system up you'll need to tell us what is slow about it.
The overall system is getting really unresponsive and what bugs me the most is when I try to install any app through .apk the device fails on me and freezes. Basically when I try to instal any app it freezez when I try to use an app it freezes most of the time
I am using the latest update with the middle setting for power but overdrive doesn't make a big difference. I am running adw launcher which helped and is really good compared to the stock launcher.
The device freezes a lot and thats not because of me having a lot of apps when I get home I will try reinstalling the update keeping the device on overdrive for a long time and will report back
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i would do a reset. it really is not as bad as it sounds.
market will tie your purchases to your account, just power off, hold vol-down and power up. choose reset, and then reset device( i do & storage). make sure firmware is 2.0.71, and install gapps5. then just watch what you install, and uninstall things you don't use.
Yeah, it sounds like you need to do a full reinitialization and then reinstall the newest firmware.
My A70 was literally not usable after I tried to upgrade. It was freezing every minute. After a reinstall, everything works great.
And don't forget to set your CPU to overdrive. Really doesn't affect battery too much, and the speed is noticeable.
I turned off the animated live wallpaper. Made my 101 noticable faster.
Deinstall VoiceSearch
You should deinstall the updates of VoiceSearch ....
thanks guys I did a full reinitiolization (not sure bout spelling) and now it is working better, i chose not to install the market and just use applanet for what i want to download, working good now but we'll see how it ends up after a few days of use.
thanks guys you were really helpfull.
dont know if the contents of your memory were wiped with your full reinitialization but i have noticed that every time i install an app i get the little pop up saying that the device is updating its library. this would explain why it would appear to grind to a halt when you install anything
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dont know if the contents of your memory were wiped with your full reinitialization but i have noticed that every time i install an app i get the little pop up saying that the device is updating its library. this would explain why it would appear to grind to a halt when you install anything
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the contents of my memory card did get wiped and i've noticed the less things in the internal memory the better. this is because archos did not partition the internal memory for the users the should have left maybe 2gb for the system and apps and the rest for us to use like what is on the galaxy s, that is what mae the device not lag.
Hi, if you do throw it out your window....pls make shure you aim at my open window.
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Hi, if you do throw it out your window....pls make shure you aim at my open window.
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nice!
Make sure you don't have any plants on the window sill.
Okay. Please no littering the landscape with fancy toys...
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I had the same issue. I had a photo app syncing online and it downloaded 30,000 thumbnails. That with the screwy "update multimedia library" really brought the 70IT to a halt. It would "sync" for about 1 hour leaving about 75% battery left.
I reinitialized and installed gapps4archos v5 with only the market and gmail (no voice or maps) and it's flying now. I wish I could disable the multimedia library sync permanently.
I'm getting quite annoyed at my phone's lack of RAM.
I browse the internet and constantly open new windows (up to the max 4 allowed by the HTC browser, but that's another story) so that I can quickly go back a page when I need to.
If for some reason I go and use a couple of other apps on the phone, and then come back to the browser I constantly find that the oldest 3 pages have dropped completely out of RAM, and the 4th one has as well, and that last one alone loads up again.
This is annoying, time-consuming and messes up my browsing session. Is there some way I can prioritise the browser so that most other apps get killed off before it does?
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I'm getting quite annoyed at my phone's lack of RAM.
I browse the internet and constantly open new windows (up to the max 4 allowed by the HTC browser, but that's another story) so that I can quickly go back a page when I need to.
If for some reason I go and use a couple of other apps on the phone, and then come back to the browser I constantly find that the oldest 3 pages have dropped completely out of RAM, and the 4th one has as well, and that last one alone loads up again.
This is annoying, time-consuming and messes up my browsing session. Is there some way I can prioritise the browser so that most other apps get killed off before it does?
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Try using firefox instead on the defualt browser .its not perfect yet but its getting
better and better with every beta release .
I don't think an alternate browser will help with Android unwantedly killing off processes.
Incidentally, I tried Firefox a couple of months ago and found it to be completely unusable - I take it it's worth checking out again now then?
Another possibility is to set the Android memory manager to be less aggressive in removing things from memory (you can use an app like AutoKiller to change the settings easily---try tweaking the settings to see if helps with your usage model).
I know AutoKiller will also allow you to lower the oom value for the process (the lower the oom, the less likely the memory manager will kill it in the background), but I don't think this will help for the browser (since the OS will dynamically change its oom each time you bring it to the foreground and send it to the background again). If someone knows a way to make the oom value permanently lower, that sounds like exactly what you want.
Maybe someone else has some ideas. I know often times launchers will have the option to keep themselves in memory, and CM6 has the option to keep messaging in memory (more like your situation), so it should be doable.
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I don't think an alternate browser will help with Android unwantedly killing off processes.
Incidentally, I tried Firefox a couple of months ago and found it to be completely unusable - I take it it's worth checking out again now then?
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defo ,its much better now i figured since you were annoyed by 4 tab limit
you might find firefox helpful. because it doesnt have limit or if it does its more than 4 for sure also it has an aption called (your tabs from last time) which again i think
you will find it usefull ,you can also sync it with you pcs firefox too .
EDIT: I just tried it to make sure, even if you reboot your phone
and open firefox again you can just press on (your tabs from last time)
and it will restore them all.
The way I see it there are a few things you can do...
Firstly, you could try a renice script. It does what other people have suggested and changes the oomph value to what you like. It was commonly used on the g1 for the dialer so that you wouldn't miss phone calls lol. Its easy to do if you know the syntax, I would make you one myself if I was near a computer lol.
Another thing you could do is try an aosp/CM based rom, as those generally have much, much lower ram usage compared to sense.
Lastly you could try a different browser. There are so many to choose from I'm sure one will fit your needs.
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I use autokiller on my DZ, you have to have root to use this tho... quite satisfied about it, almost all the time 90+ free ram even when doing heavy stuff... quits the unused shizzle...
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I HIGHLY recommend Dolphin Browser HD.
It is significantly faster than the stock Browser and I have had no issues with Android closing it down. One feature I like is that there is actually an 'Exit' button in the menu for those individuals who have OCD like me and don't like the Browser running in the background when not wanted.
Thus far, this is the best mobile Browser I have used. That being said, I have not tried Firefox and have been a regular user of Opera Mini in the past on other devices.
You should try miren browser once, i'm using it now instead of dolphin hd, and there is a exit button in the menu to. I think its better styled, it has got all the features of dolphin HD without all the bloating around... no gestures tho
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I think its more of poorly optimized software because im pretty sure that google devs don't even utilize the full 512mb of RAM in 2.2. Chances are its the HTC sense limiting you.
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Yeah I don't think this issue is anything to do with a lack of RAM.
I may try another ROM, however I'm just not up for flashing all the time like I used to with my old Desire or G1 before that. I want a 100% working ROM, preferably something that allows overclocking with a kernel that doesn't break stuff.
And I also want my HTC phone dialler/contacts as well, not vanilla or a cheap copy from the Market. Oh, and I hate the vanilla lockscreen - it's just hard to operate compared to the Sense one. I don't know why it's so hard to unlock side to side on Android - the iPhone takes a little flick and it's unlocked - vanilla Android is like a mission to ensure I've dragged it far enough across to unlock.
And I don't want my keyboard or capacitive keys or quick keys mullered up (I am running a Euro DZ).
If these issues can be dealt with easily when setting up the ROM/phone then I'm prepared to devote a little time to doing it.
So - any suggestions, please?
dont use htc sense roms.
I'm running the virtuous sense rom with his advanced kernel, ive ran the normal rom about 2 weeks, and ive yet to see differences other then a huuuuuuuge speed increase... i would just try it once if i were you its such a relieve...
I played with the latest over the weekend. I ended up uninstalling it. I'd hit a page with scripting and then firefox would lock up and crash.
Web2Go isn't perfect, but at least it doesn't crash as often.
This has nothing to do with RAM. This phone handles RAM just fine. Use Miren and thank me later. It's the best browser by far!
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You should try miren browser once, i'm using it now instead of dolphin hd, and there is a exit button in the menu to. I think its better styled, it has got all the features of dolphin HD without all the bloating around... no gestures tho
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No text reflow = showstopper.
Unless I'm just being blind, I can't find any way to enable this in the settings for Miren.
It's sense. Sense roms use way more RAM than vanilla roms do. Also check out dolphin HD or dolphin mini browser.
Another issue I'm having which points to lack of RAM (whether this is due to Sense sucking it all up or not) is that programs do not stay in in RAM for that long, ie I go away from an app then return after using a few other apps (not massive games or anything) and when I return the first app's UI has been kicked out of memory and has to load up again, causing anything between a momentary (dialler, mesaging) to an annoyingly long (browser, maps, market) white screen, as data is downloaded again.
People talk a lot of sh*t about the iPhone, but cacheing (caching? sp?) a copy of the last screen for each app before it's closed so you instantly get a visual image of the UI of the app following the opening animation is a pretty good idea IMO.
Has anyone here used the Desire HD? I would think with the 768MB of RAM on that badboy this would be less of a problem.
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Another issue I'm having which points to lack of RAM (whether this is due to Sense sucking it all up or not) is that programs do not stay in in RAM for that long, ie I go away from an app then return after using a few other apps (not massive games or anything) and when I return the first app's UI has been kicked out of memory and has to load up again, causing anything between a momentary (dialler, mesaging) to an annoyingly long (browser, maps, market) white screen, as data is downloaded again.
People talk a lot of sh*t about the iPhone, but cacheing (caching? sp?) a copy of the last screen for each app before it's closed so you instantly get a visual image of the UI of the app following the opening animation is a pretty good idea IMO.
Has anyone here used the Desire HD? I would think with the 768MB of RAM on that badboy this would be less of a problem.
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I've now installed Enomther's Official rom - what a difference to the speed of the phone! It absolutely flies, even when clocked at a lower CPU speed, and it appears to retain stuff in memory a lot better than the standard Sense rom. Also, there's over 100MB more of free RAM afte a fresh boot.
I'm definitely sold on the efficiency of stock Android, but I'm now missing some of my HTC goodies... I don't think anyone can deny that the HTC dialler is a different level to the rudimentary Android one. And I am missing my HTC browser - that seems a bit smoother, and the text reflow is more reliable, the stock browser seems a bit temperamental on that front.
Other than that, I can live without all the other Sense stuff. So my next question is, can the dialler and browser be installed on my new rom? Do they have any dependencies which would prevent me using them? How would I go about ripping the apps from the HTC rom? I'm an ADB noob so I need some kind expert to tell me how
I just got iconia 2 weeks ago and its not refurbished however I feel it is slow web pages take 8 to 12 seconds to load sometime if I'm performing any task it is stuck for 6 to 9second no response n then it works fine. There is a lag usually for 5 to 7 second. Is that normal I didn't root my tablet didn't install a whole lot app yet I just little bummed due to the lag n slowness. Any thing you can suggest or share your experience.
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I'm not a fan of the stock browser. It tends to lag and has rendering issues. You might want to try Opera Mobile. ( be careful not to download Opera Mini- it's intended for phones) I've been using it for a week or so and really like it. Better rendering, smoother scrolling, less crashing.
I use dolphin browser works good.
bad browsing experience
I have tried many of the web browsers on the market..
My experience is Some view some sites better then others. I use the stock browser for most sites.There is NO real solution to this issue.avoiding portal type websites. Such as yahoo.com helps. if you need content from there or similar sites YOU can d/load there app from the Marker.
Also try this.. Advanced task killer app .This tool should not be allowed to auto start and run in background. but can be used to diag. a rouge app.
Get Advanced task killer from the market..
try opening it from time to time and see what apps are actually sitting in the TRAY. if you see some apps that you installed and have not used since your last reboot. try killing them and see if this helps.. Use this Tool for one app at a time. If you find the app causing the sluggish internet. See if you can adjust settings on it . Maybe tell it to not START to not push notifications and so on..
NOT All apps play nice . you might just have one of them that decide to steal bandwidth on a constant basis.
Good luck and we all feel your frustrations.. I will point out runny task managers in the background is BAD IDEA. not all apps setting in the try are actually running Many are static and waiting for your input..
Erica Renee.... Memory management Trick #1
I don't experience the lag you are posting about. You may have a misbehaving app on your hands.
I too have experienced random sluggishness at times with the stock browser. Its especially bad on javascript-heavy sites. My bigger complaint, however, is the random typing issues I have, like goofy text selection and seemingly stuck shift states on the keyboard.
This appears to be a problem with the latest update. Beforehand, this lag simply was not there. Some sites (XDA Developers being one) lag with the banner ad at the top loading. This happens on almost EVERY vBulliten 4.x forum. I think a lot of us are hoping this issue will resolve with ICS, since it's doubtful Acer will do much more work with HC.
I will echo what the others have said.
When I first started messing around with my A500 I too noticed a small lag. My solution was to root my device and load a ROM from the ROM list:
http://www.acertabletforum.com/foru...-a500-501-rom-list-updated-29-jan-2012-a.html
Most of the ROMs work much better than the stock android that comes installed on the A500. Also once I had pretty much cached the sites I use the speed issue vanished.
The stock browser lags. Especially when you use your keyboard (there are some videos on youtube) other browsers does not have this lags.
So I just got this thing, and it, like my last 2 Android devices, has this very annoying issue: it loses my browser tabs.
It's really annoying - it means that the browser will reload my tabs when I come back to it.
It also means that I lose the text I typed in the page, and that if I'm on a slow or a metered connection, I'll end up having to wait for my tabs to load and waste my bandwidth.
I tried EVERYTHING.
All the browsers: Dolphin, AOSP Browser, Chrome, Firefox, Boat, Maxthon, Opera.
I set my OOM values to zero.
Tried V6 supercharger.
Nothing helped. I just can't get my browser to stay in memory.
Is there a way to make it stay?
Or just completely kill the built-in multitasking manager Android has?
I'd rather just kill tasks myself with a real task manager. (and don't give me the 'leave it to android, task managers are bad' bull**** - I've heard all that before, and honestly, at this point, I don't even care anymore - I just want my browser to work right)
Have you tried bulletproofing it with the supercharger script?
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Yep. Didn't work.
Though considering how long the guide is, I probably ****ed something up. Gonna give it another try.
Tried it again. Didn't work.
Tried Swapper 2
didn't work
tried v6 for the third time
did everything right for sure
didn't work.
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tried v6 for the third time
did everything right for sure
didn't work.
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Using the latest supercharger script?
android automatically closes apps after a certain amount of time
The newest supercharger script disables that 'feature' of android
Are you playing intensive games that gobble up ram by any chance?
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Yeah, latest V6 - replaced services.jar and etc.
The script says that I'm 200% supercharged.
I do play games, but not that often. Still, I'd rather just manage apps manually at this point - really not happy with Android's idea of multitasking.
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Yeah, latest V6 - replaced services.jar and etc.
The script says that I'm 200% supercharged.
I do play games, but not that often. Still, I'd rather just manage apps manually at this point - really not happy with Android's idea of multitasking.
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what rom are you using? using aosp and the aosp android stock browser(not chrome thats in stock) i dont get browser reloads. chrome needs too much ram i think, and am happy that aosp uses the regular android browser. and i agree with you about managing apps/memory manually, i dont like how android manages it also.
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what rom are you using? using aosp and the aosp android stock browser(not chrome thats in stock) i dont get browser reloads. chrome needs too much ram i think, and am happy that aosp uses the regular android browser. and i agree with you about managing apps/memory manually, i dont like how android manages it also.
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right now i'm on paranoid 2.12
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right now i'm on paranoid 2.12
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Chrome always saved my tabs, it was am little annoying to be honest, I would forget to close tabs and end up with like 10-15 tabs open lol
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Chrome always saved my tabs, it was am little annoying to be honest, I would forget to close tabs and end up with like 10-15 tabs open lol
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Same here. I actually just opened up about 4 or 5 tabs in Chrome, shut down my tablet, then turned it back on. All the tabs were saved and opened up just fine. I'm on the stock ROM, perhaps it maybe the OP's custom ROM that's causing problems.
Can't be - I tried it on stock, and the issue was there.
Chrome does save tabs, but tell me, when you open it, is the page content instantly showing, or is it reloading it?
For me it is reloading them most of the time. While it's better than nothing, it's still annoying: imagine typing a long post, switching for a moment to check something, and coming back, only to see the browser reload the page - with all the text missing.
Same problem for me. Dolphin keeps getting killed when it is for an extended time in the background although free ram never dropped below 300 mb. I am on Paranoid Android and the newest beta of Faux kernel.
anyone? surely there has to be some solution!
there has to be a way to get true multitasking!
Ups, totally forgot to post my findings in this thread, good thing I have it still subscribed.
I got rid of most of my issues by modifing my service.jar for use of the supercharger script with pepcisko's Windows tool for patching services.jar for V6 SuperCharger (0.9.0.6). I didn't even used the actual supercharger script, just run the Windows tool and applied it to the Nexus 7. IIRC the tool asked me at one point if it should deactivate Android's "kill everything that is longer than 30 minutes in the background function" (WTF?).
Don't forget to raise your minfree settings or your system will start to slow down after some time.
Word of warning: On Paranoid Android 2.13 and Faux Kernel I think my N7 was slower than it was before. But that could be just a negative placebo. And I did still expirince some time that dolphin got killed in the background even though memory usage wasn't up to the minfree setting but it only happend two times at all.
Anyway, I'm now using Clemsyn's Elite Kernel (version of 8/17/2012) @ 1.5 ghz and Jay's Recipe for Buttery Goodness and my N7 is flying.
Tool for patching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869663
Kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831780
Butter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831780
yeah, i have that, but as you said, it still gets killed sometimes.
Hi I'm the guy from the other thread. In case you don't know, stock browser is designed to reload the webpage whenever you return to it. It never gets killed. Proof? Disconnect from 3G or WiFi so you have no connection and maybe play a game. Then go back to browser and the page doesn't reload because they know you have no internet and they create a cache file. Lol.
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