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All Cache to SD

i was wondering is there a way to put all the apps cache in the sd because for my search it seems like you can only do it for some. Im also running the Cyanogen rom 3.6

I know there is an app in the market named ClearMe (or there was) that will allow this if you are looking for a less manual method
Edit: you said all apps. I'm not sure of a method.... yet..

not just cache to sd, storage to sd
ruffrider5956 said:
i was wondering is there a way to put all the apps cache in the sd because for my search it seems like you can only do it for some. Im also running the Cyanogen rom 3.6
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I have been wondering about a couple of things since I flashed Cyanogen's ROM. 1) Calendar storage is on internal storage. I have 5MB there so that sucks. Is there any way to change that? 2) Various programs, while the app itself is installed on SD, some data, but not all, goes to the phone's internal storage. This seems random. Is there any way to move ALL storage and ALL cache to the SD? When I was on JF v1.51, all data and cache was on SD. I have 63mb free internal but on JF I had 73mb free at all times. Now I fluctuate. Any thoughts?

aaronratner said:
I have been wondering about a few things since I flashed cyanogen's rom. 1) calendar storage is on internal. I have 5mb there so that sucks. Any way to change that? 2) various programs, while the app itself is installed on as, some data, but not all, goes to the phone. This seems random. Anyway to move ALL storage and ALL cache to the as? When I was on JF v1.51, all data and cache were on sd. I have 63mb free internal but on JF I had 73mb free at all times. Now I fluctuate. Any thoughts?
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Why do you need 73mb free? Is 63mb not enough? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think you might be worrying about something that is not an issue. The phone works ok with 20+ MB free and works great with 30+ MB. If you have too much free memory, it is just sitting there doing nothing. You want to use the phone's resources the best way you can, not just have them sit there being unused.
I really don't see the point in moving ALL cache to SD. I've found that the phone boots up much faster if your Dalvik-Cache is using internal memory. It is about 30MB on my phone. I did move my app, app-private, media, and data to my SD card. I've heard arguments that it is not a good idea to move the data over but I have over 100 apps and my data folder is about 6 MB. So a Class 6 card could move that entire folder in about 1 second.

Nice first post, but...
Just for reference, I don't really care if I have 10MB free. My phone is running very smoothly. Most of the questions that I ask are purely for educational purposes. I was wondering what the difference was between the apps to sd I did on JF1.51 (I did it manually and I'll show it at the end of this post for reference) and the built in method in cyanogen's ROM. I was curious about why the free memory fluctuated on cyanogen's and not JF's.
I think that some apps are using the phone's internal memory and some are using the ext2 partition. One example: I use NewsRob (an RSS reader). It asks me where I want to store the downloaded RSS feeds and I said my SD card. It created a folder and stored the file on my SD card (not the ext2 partition but the fat32). However, the internal memory was also affected even though the app itself is on SD (on ext2). Another example is my calendar app. The storage, of which I have 5MB, is stored on internal memory. On JF's it was not. Why? What is done differently?
If I enter the following commands in terminal emulator...
Code:
su
df system/sd
...I get 553920K total, 106180K used, 447740K available (block size 4096).
However, when I go to Settings > SD card & phone storage I get 540MB under total space and 409MB available.
That doesn't seem to jive or am I missing something? Hey, everything seems to be working well so I don't really care on that end. However I do care that I don't understand why this is the way it is.
Reference: My apps to sd method on JF.
In terminal emulator
Code:
busybox cp -a /data/app /system/sd/
busybox cp -a /data/dalvik-cache /system/sd/
busybox cp -a /data/data /system/sd/
Then in Recovery Terminal (Alt+X on JF menu in Recovery Mode)
Code:
mount data
rm -rf /data/app
ln -s /system/sd/app /data/app
rm -rf /data/data (optional)
ln -s /system/sd/data /data/data
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache
ln -s /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache
reboot

I'm using "move cache for root users" - first result after searching for "cache."
It moves Browser, Market, GMaps, Street View, Gmail, and Steel caches to SD.
If you have apps2sd I would assume all caches would be on the SD card, not positive tho.

juphro said:
I'm using "move cache for root users" - first result after searching for "cache."
It moves Browser, Market, GMaps, Street View, Gmail, and Steel caches to SD.
If you have apps2sd I would assume all caches would be on the SD card, not positive tho.
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using that program as well and yes it does put all the cache on your sd card.

imbonez9 said:
using that program as well and yes it does put all the cache on your sd card.
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I too use that program. It's called TA Utility. It works well but I'd like more than that. For example, as stated in my original description of the "problem" is that there are other apps that don't get included in this. For one thing, calendar. That's 5MB right there. There are also various program that use some internal storage even if they cache the bulk of the files on the SD (fat32 partition). I don't actually think that this is a problem. I am just very interested in understanding the inner workings of the a2sd that I had done on JF and the a2sd that is done automatically on Cyanogen's ROM.
Another program that is a "problem" is the Work Email that was ported over by Cyanogen from myTouch. Even if you don't use it, opening it once adds more than a MB of data to the internal storage. While I removed the storage, if I wanted to use the Work Email app for some reason it would "cost" me a meg. Again, this is not a real issue as I have nearly 200 apps installed and still have 64MB of internal storage left. I just want the "why" behind all this.
My question, then, is why do certain apps "cost" me internal storage while others do not? It cannot be random. There needs to be a reason and there also needs to be a way to change that. I just don't know why and how.

aaronratner said:
I too use that program. It's called TA Utility. It works well but I'd like more than that. For example, as stated in my original description of the "problem" is that there are other apps that don't get included in this. For one thing, calendar. That's 5MB right there. There are also various program that use some internal storage even if they cache the bulk of the files on the SD (fat32 partition). I don't actually think that this is a problem. I am just very interested in understanding the inner workings of the a2sd that I had done on JF and the a2sd that is done automatically on Cyanogen's ROM.
Another program that is a "problem" is the Work Email that was ported over by Cyanogen from myTouch. Even if you don't use it, opening it once adds more than a MB of data to the internal storage. While I removed the storage, if I wanted to use the Work Email app for some reason it would "cost" me a meg. Again, this is not a real issue as I have nearly 200 apps installed and still have 64MB of internal storage left. I just want the "why" behind all this.
My question, then, is why do certain apps "cost" me internal storage while others do not? It cannot be random. There needs to be a reason and there also needs to be a way to change that. I just don't know why and how.
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I''m not sure its the app that is taking up the room but the space it needs to park it on the phone. Like i installed docs2go. It adds to my internal but not as much as the whole program is.

[SOLVED] - Solution
I have figured out the answer to my original question for all those who are interested. I wanted to know the difference between the A2SD that I used on JF (I did it myself) and the auto-A2SD in Cyanogen's ROM. It's very simple. The /data/data/ folder on Cyanogen is not moved to SD whereas I has it sysmlinked on JF.
If you are running Cyanogen, run the following in TE...
Code:
su
du -h /data/data/
to see what you have stored. I am going to spend some time on the forum looking to see what, if anything, can be safely moved (in a stable way) to /system/sd/ on Cyanogen. I will either report back here or start a new thread if I think my findings are worth sharing (meaning, if I come up with anything more than what everyone else but me already knows, LOL). I suspect it might be a bit of an issue since Cyanogen warns against using any other A2SD methods while using his ROM. Time will tell.

I believe that the reason /data/data is not moved to sd anymore is because it proved to be unstable for most (not all) people here. Also, if you manualy move /data/data to sd at some point on Cyan's rom it will be moved back to internal memory automaticaly next time you reboot. This is just the way Cyan has it set up due to the problems people had when the whole data folder was moved.

Agreed
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I believe that the reason /data/data is not moved to sd anymore is because it proved to be unstable for most (not all) people here. Also, if you manualy move /data/data to sd at some point on Cyan's rom it will be moved back to internal memory automaticaly next time you reboot. This is just the way Cyan has it set up due to the problems people had when the whole data folder was moved.
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I fully agree with that. /data/data on SD was NEVER stable for me. I don't think my phone lasted more than three days after moving it. My main reason for posting was to understand what was different between what I did on JF and what Cyanogen did by default. I now fully understand the difference and, most importantly, the reasons behind it. I just have to keep and eye on which programs write data and how much data they write and what, if any, should/could be deleted. The calendar storage, for example, cannot be deleted or calendar entries disappear. For me, it's 5.5MB.
Perhaps, if I am really bored, I (or someone else) will write and app or script that can remove data/cache for ANY app added to a list. For now, I have the obvious caches moved over and a cache cleaning app for those caches moved to SD. A more efficient and more customizable method for this process is definitely needed but I have learned that these "problems" seemed to get "solved" as Android grows up. For now, manual methods will have to do.

Fresh ROM and Apps2SD - /system/app Area.

Im using the Fresh .04 ROM. I understand Apps2SD is installed and functional. I did format my SD card correctly before installing and I suspect it should be working.
My question is:
I have been pushing a few apps to my /system/app directory using adb.
Is that on the SD card now or am I just pushing to the system RAM area and not taking advantage of Apps2SD.
I noticed my available space is at 90MB and with the Modoco ROM I had 104 available with most of these apps.
I feel like Im doing this wrong.

Apps2sd is not functional in 0.4. It was a bug that was discovered after the fact. You aren't doing anything wrong.
0.5 is being tested by about 10 people right now and all are saying it's working fine. So be patient and 0.5 will be out later.

What apps are you pushing to /system/app?
No, /system/app is not on the SD card. But it's not on the data partition either. The internal memory is partitioned as follows as far as I can tell:
/system 174MB total, generally around 10-20MB free depending on ROM and so forth
/data 163MB total. This is what reports as "phone storage" in the OS. Starts at around 140MB free.
/cache 133MB
I'm not sure how the rest of it really works but that's the gist of it.
AppsToSD moves the /data/app and /data/app-private folders (and nothing else) to the SD card. These are the folders that contain your Market and downloaded .apk files. Other things in the /data directory that use "phone storage" are the boot cache, dalvik cache, and app data (browser cache, preferences, saved games, etc).

jonnythan said:
What apps are you pushing to /system/app?
No, /system/app is not on the SD card. But it's not on the data partition either. The internal memory is partitioned as follows as far as I can tell:
/system 174MB total, generally around 10-20MB free depending on ROM and so forth
/data 163MB total. This is what reports as "phone storage" in the OS. Starts at around 140MB free.
/cache 133MB
I'm not sure how the rest of it really works but that's the gist of it.
AppsToSD moves the /data/app and /data/app-private folders (and nothing else) to the SD card. These are the folders that contain your Market and downloaded .apk files. Other things in the /data directory that use "phone storage" are the boot cache, dalvik cache, and app data (browser cache, preferences, saved games, etc).
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Ok, I was pushing a few of the Original Sprint Apps and some of my purchased apps. Unfortunately, I had to download a couple apps from a "not so legit source" for the short term due to the Market screw up. However, dont look down on me, I only got the apps I legitimately purchased and couldnt download again after I formatted my card and such going from Modoco to Fresh.
Anyway, I just adb push "app name" /system/app after a mount from
a command prompt.
Once the Apps2SD is fixed, should i be doing this process a different way to take advantage of the SD card space.

Yeah, push to /data/app. There is a limited amount of free space in the /system partition.

jonnythan said:
Yeah, push to /data/app. There is a limited amount of free space in the /system partition.
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Easy enough. Thanks.

jonnythan said:
Yeah, push to /data/app. There is a limited amount of free space in the /system partition.
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Ok, so I loaded the Modoco ROM and pushed to /data/app. It seemed to push fine, but I dont see the app.
What am I doing wrong.

Did you reboot after you pushed it there?

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Did you reboot after you pushed it there?
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Yes, a I get a loop at the Sprint logo. I have tried doing a Nandroid Backup 2x and then upgrading to the new Modoco and pushing. Everything works fine until I push an app to the /data/app directory, then I get a loop.
Im going to try pushing to the sdcard and move to data/app using SU file Manager.

What file are you trying to put there?

jonnythan said:
What file are you trying to put there?
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The "test" app im pushing is the Droid Facebook app. Facebook.apk.
I tried pushing Sprint_TV.apk too, with no success.
Its odd. If I push anything to that directory, it loops the startup at the Sprint logo. I just ended up pushing to /system/app and decided to forget about it. Im a neophyte and was getting ready to throw the phone out the window.

Sprint_TV might need to be in /system/app, which is wher it normally is. The Droid Facebook app might simply not work on the Hero. So...

jonnythan said:
Sprint_TV might need to be in /system/app, which is wher it normally is. The Droid Facebook app might simply not work on the Hero. So...
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After alot of trial and error, I finally got the apps in the right place and to work correctly.
I pushed to /data/sd/apps
That appears to be where Apps2SD is setup to throw the apps.
Thanks for hanging in there with me on this thread.
Both apps work great in that directory. In fact, I moved alot of the stock apps to that directory and they worked fine. None of them got moved automatically. It seems the only time Apps2SD moves the apps is upon installation, so pushing or for apps that were previously installed, they didnt get moved.
Hey, it works for me, hopefully someone else will find this useful.

Lappie2010 said:
After alot of trial and error, I finally got the apps in the right place and to work correctly.
I pushed to /data/sd/apps
That appears to be where Apps2SD is setup to throw the apps.
Thanks for hanging in there with me on this thread.
Both apps work great in that directory. In fact, I moved alot of the stock apps to that directory and they worked fine. None of them got moved automatically. It seems the only time Apps2SD moves the apps is upon installation, so pushing or for apps that were previously installed, they didnt get moved.
Hey, it works for me, hopefully someone else will find this useful.
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Apps that are in /data/app (the default location without apps2sd) will get moved to /data/sd/app and then a sym link is created that points from /data/app to /data/sd/app. Anything that is in /system/app (all default system apps) will not get moved. Modaco's rom had moved a few of them there but people were receiving FC's and moving them back.

[Solved] Market Error "Invalid Package File"

I've been having this problem on and off for a while, mostly I believed it was related to something getting corrupted when I restored my apps to a new Rom with Titanium Backup.
I am happy to say, that after scouring the web for days, and trying a lot of wrong information, I finally figured out how to fix this.
It's real easy. All you need to do is remove any *.apk files located in the /cache directory on your phone (did not even need to remount- though I did it as root just in case).
I never did figure out why only some apps will have this problem or how the problem first comes about, but I have successfully done this twice and have since been able to install/update files that had this error before.
Update (3/3/11): OK - After scouring the Internet for over a month I finally figured it out. My info above was only part right. The problem is specifically with ROMs/Kernels that move the dalvik-cache to the /cache directory (HTC puts it in the /data dir).
In any case, when it's in /data, it is using app space, and therefore you usually run out of app space and know about it. However, because this is in /cache, you don't really know what you are using. As you load up on apps, your dalvik-cache grows, and since these apps need the .dex files in the cache, even if you clear your cache, it will just get re-created.
the /cache dir is also where the apps are temporarily stored while downloading from the market. So....
1. If you are getting immediate download fails, that means that your cache is so full that you don't even have space for the temp file.
2. If you get "Invalid Package" that likely means that there was not enough cache left to install the .dex files (the download is also taking up some of this space).
Unfortunately, the only way to fix this is to either remove some of your apps, or move your cache to your SD card.
HOWEVER, I found this great app on the market called Link2SD, that allows you to only move select apps to the SD card, and you can also move the dalvik-cache files associated with these apps.
see this thread for specifics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10711328&postcount=1
it lets you select which apps to move. You will need to create a new partition on your card, though.
So far results have been great and I can finally update the 30+ apps that have been stuck for me for the last 2 months.
almost forgot, if you adb shell or use terminal emulator, you can type "df" to see how much space is left on all your mounts.

My phone has been doing the same thing with the whole package file is invalid bs. I tried to follow your instructions on going to the /cache folder. When I went to the folder, it was empty, so I wasn't able to remove any .apk files. So now what? How do I fix this?

If you use a File Managemet app like ASTRO, it will show the folder as empty because you need root access to see the dir. However, if you use Terminal Emulator or adb shell (as root) you will see that there are indeed other directories, and probably these orphaned .apk files.

Hi,
I'm also having the same issue with invalid package. I cleared the /cahch direcotry and still have the issue -- Is there something else i can try before wiping and starting over?
thanks
Rudey

It could also be caused by the .android_secure folder on your SD card. Clearing this folder and letting the market restore them solves issues a lot ofthe time.
As always use TiBackup or something to backup all your apps first too to be safe.

As the OP, I can tell you that I have, in fact, been unable to fix this problem.
Initially the suggestion I posted above worked, however a couple of days later is was no longer working again.
I have tried every trick on the web, including:
1. Removing SD card.
2. Deleting the above mentioned folder
3. clearing market cache
4. Clearing all caches in recovery
5. logging out and back in to google talk.
The only thing that fixes it is a complete factory reset.
I currently have a combination of 3 errors:
1. No download at all.
2. Download unsuccessful
3. Invalid Package
some apps will still update, but what is really weird is that I am even getting invalid package on new apps (so its not a corrupt app already installed on the phone).
One last thought. Once I am unable to update an app, even if I remove it, I can no longer restore the backup using Titanium.

oughta try reformating your SD card and let the phone reformat it too.

sgt. slaughter said:
oughta try reformating your SD card and let the phone reformat it too.
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don't see why this is different than un-mounting the SD which should do the same thing and has been tried.

sw99 said:
don't see why this is different than un-mounting the SD which should do the same thing and has been tried.
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na actually reformating it will fully wipe everything on the SD and having the phone do it is best always as its always better to format with the device your using the disk on the most in general.

Found the problem, updated in OP.

sw99 said:
I've been having this problem on and off for a while, mostly I believed it was related to something getting corrupted when I restored my apps to a new Rom with Titanium Backup.
I am happy to say, that after scouring the web for days, and trying a lot of wrong information, I finally figured out how to fix this.
It's real easy. All you need to do is remove any *.apk files located in the /cache directory on your phone (did not even need to remount- though I did it as root just in case).
I never did figure out why only some apps will have this problem or how the problem first comes about, but I have successfully done this twice and have since been able to install/update files that had this error before.
Update (3/3/11): OK - After scouring the Internet for over a month I finally figured it out. My info above was only part right. The problem is specifically with ROMs/Kernels that move the dalvik-cache to the /cache directory (HTC puts it in the /data dir).
In any case, when it's in /data, it is using app space, and therefore you usually run out of app space and know about it. However, because this is in /cache, you don't really know what you are using. As you load up on apps, your dalvik-cache grows, and since these apps need the .dex files in the cache, even if you clear your cache, it will just get re-created.
the /cache dir is also where the apps are temporarily stored while downloading from the market. So....
1. If you are getting immediate download fails, that means that your cache is so full that you don't even have space for the temp file.
2. If you get "Invalid Package" that likely means that there was not enough cache left to install the .dex files (the download is also taking up some of this space).
Unfortunately, the only way to fix this is to either remove some of your apps, or move your cache to your SD card.
HOWEVER, I found this great app on the market called Link2SD, that allows you to only move select apps to the SD card, and you can also move the dalvik-cache files associated with these apps.
see this thread for specifics: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10711328&postcount=1
it lets you select which apps to move. You will need to create a new partition on your card, though.
So far results have been great and I can finally update the 30+ apps that have been stuck for me for the last 2 months.
almost forgot, if you adb shell or use terminal emulator, you can type "df" to see how much space is left on all your mounts.
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Didnt solve my issue.. I had reformatted my phone and SD card and reinstalled my apps. It was working fine again but now its back to some apps update fine.. some get DOWNLOAD UNSUCCESSFUL and some get PACKAGE FILE INVALID.. any ideas.. Im on sprint lovers rom (latest)
It appears th LINK 2 SD needs a second partition that I dont have nor use with SPRINT LOVERS ROM and 2.2 .... am I missing something??

To the OP,
The program you linked to seems to be a variation of dark tremor's a2sd method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116). His lets you move data, cache, and/or dc to the ext partition, but doesn't (at least I don't believe it does) give you granular control over which apps remain in the standard location.
In my own use, I chose to move all user installed apps to sd, but dc remained on the internal memory (albeit, not in /data, but in the /cache partition). I figured this way, even if the sd card is missing, the phone will still boot. I won't have access to anything I installed, but whatever the rom came with will still be accessible.

Follow the instructions on that thread and create the second partition. You won't need more than 500mb. apps2sd or link2sd is the only way you can fix this problem unless you want to remove some of your apps.
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gpz1100 said:
To the OP,
The program you linked to seems to be a variation of dark tremor's a2sd method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116). His lets you move data, cache, and/or dc to the ext partition, but doesn't (at least I don't believe it does) give you granular control over which apps remain in the standard location.
In my own use, I chose to move all user installed apps to sd, but dc remained on the internal memory (albeit, not in /data, but in the /cache partition). I figured this way, even if the sd card is missing, the phone will still boot. I won't have access to anything I installed, but whatever the rom came with will still be accessible.
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Yes that's true, and I eventually went the app2sd route. However, I was trying to avoid that because of the slow speed of my sd card.
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sw99 said:
Yes that's true, and I eventually went the app2sd route. However, I was trying to avoid that because of the slow speed of my sd card.
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I'm not sure which app2sd method you're referring to, but keep the following in mind. I discovered this after my backup images failed to restore properly.
In the past, i'd be backing up boot, system, and data partitions. Obviously with dt's a2sd, I need to include the ext partition now. No problem. BUT, when restoring, i'd run into issues where my apps were present, but all settings were lost. After much confusion and head scratching, I tried wiping cache and dc AFTER the restore, but before the initial boot. The restore was a success now!
Apparently, with a2sd on the ext3, some remnants of cache or dc remain when backing up, even if cache is not selected. As part of any good restore, first thing is to always wipe, so now we end up with a hodge podge of files in the cache which I think causes the OS to revert all the settings back to default.
Just something to keep in mind.

i wanted to go back how my dhd was.. lots of problem.. i havent fix my radio problem yet and now this invaled package thing *face palm*

My phone is HTC G7, and I use data2sd to get 1.5G rom space, now there is still about 1.2G left, but I also met the "invalid package file" problem. I can't find any *.apk in /cache, (root, with "ls -a"). But if I uninstall some apps, I could install or update other apps successfully. I could not use Link2sd for I already have data2sd and I guess it's not a problem of insufficient space, because I still have enough rom space.
Do you have any new solutions?

supericexu said:
My phone is HTC G7, and I use data2sd to get 1.5G rom space, now there is still about 1.2G left, but I also met the "invalid package file" problem. I can't find any *.apk in /cache, (root, with "ls -a"). But if I uninstall some apps, I could install or update other apps successfully. I could not use Link2sd for I already have data2sd and I guess it's not a problem of insufficient space, because I still have enough rom space.
Do you have any new solutions?
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The problem is not the apps, its the /cache running out of space. I suspect that the app you are using cannot move the dalvik-cache files (and is really just a shortcut to android's app2sd - which is not the same as darktremor or link2sd).
in terminal us df -k to see how much space you have on each mount to confirm that there is little space in cache.
If you really have that much space in your apps mount, then I would suggest moving the dalvik-cache back to its original location (search for instructions, as the only way I know how to do it is by installing darktremor's app2sd). If you are still having problems, you really are limited to either partitioning your SD card and using apps2sd or link2sd or removing apps.
hope this helps.

I have been having this issue for a couple of months now - with a bit of a twist. After wiping my dalvik-cache, my apps began to sucsessfully update - except for Google apps.
I have no idea why just those apps, but going into settings/Applications/Manage applications, and selecting each app, then clearing that apps cache, allowed those apps to sucessfully update also.
I am thankful I did not have to resort to the above fix.

Any solution if not rooted?
I've just started to get this error when trying to update the Google+ app. The error is only happening with Google+, every other app I update/install works fine.
I haven't rooted my device, and I'm hoping there's a way to fix the issue without rooting?
Device: Nexus One
Rom: Stock Android
Version: 2.3.4
Although I couldn't see anything in the cache directories, I checked in /system/app and couldn't find any package that looked like it would be Google+.

Internal storage issues??? Check this out!!

hey guys I was doing a little searching around and was reading a thread in the ARC section which eventually lead me to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310309
Now check out this beefy internal storage Thats 3.5 gigabytes!!!

It's data2ext, I can send you some links for some scripts, but be warned, if you dont have a class 10 SD Card, your phone will grind to a holt

I'm using a class 4 with that mod and it's working great tons of space for whatever I've got no force closes all my apps work just as they should with no problems at all
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This looks great! But do i have to flash my device for this, and do i have to install everything again? Like your using the phone for the first time?

crash_b. said:
This looks great! But do i have to flash my device for this, and do i have to install everything again? Like your using the phone for the first time?
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No it works like apps2sd, but rather than just symlinking /data/app and /dalvik-cache/ it symlinks the whole data partition. so all your apps would be auto symlinked. You will need a custom kernel with init.d support though.
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thatsupnow said:
I'm using a class 4 with that mod and it's working great tons of space for whatever I've got no force closes all my apps work just as they should with no problems at all
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Cool maybe data2ext has been improved since i lasted tried it on my Desire HD

AndroHero said:
No it works like apps2sd, but rather than just symlinking /data/app and /dalvik-cache/ it symlinks the whole data partition. so all your apps would be auto symlinked. You will need a custom kernel with init.d support though.
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Does this work on all DoomLord's kernels?
The end result is so cool, im just not confident on myself enough to do the procedure yet, its all technical for me
I'm using Link2Sd for internal storage issues for now..

noojster said:
Does this work on all DoomLord's kernels?
The end result is so cool, im just not confident on myself enough to do the procedure yet, its all technical for me
I'm using Link2Sd for internal storage issues for now..
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I haven't tried on all dooms kernels so far just the CM kernel and all I did was make a partition from recovery, I made a ext4, then flash the script it was just that easy now I've got space for whatever I need. I made a modest 1.5 gig partition and away I went
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I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.

dassub said:
I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.
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I had that very same problem when I moved the dalvik cache then I came across this script and problem solved!
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dassub said:
I get problems with internal storage, but mine are different. I'll have 70 megs free, but if I want to update a bunch of apps that are ~5 megs each, it'll say I don't have enough free space and stops. ugh.
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You need to clear your /cache/
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thatsupnow said:
I haven't tried on all dooms kernels so far just the CM kernel and all I did was make a partition from recovery, I made a ext4, then flash the script it was just that easy now I've got space for whatever I need. I made a modest 1.5 gig partition and away I went
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Edit: found the problem.

another way to free up internal memory
check this out.... force moving apps to sd card
muffinresearch.co. uk/archives/2011/02/02/android-force-moving-apps-to-an-sd-card

crash_b. said:
Edit: found the problem.
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Did you get that working on the other doom kernels?
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I thought i did, but it still was buggy. Simcard problems and bootloops. Unfortunately...
Tried latest DoomKernel and v06.
So i went back to link2sd.
The original thread seems dead, i posted there, but no response.
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You need to clear your /cache/
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Is this the same as clearing the dalvik cache? I've done that in TB.

Please help. I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps.
Hi!
I need help, please.
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
I have a Sony Xperia Play
My Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer or more reliable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
I look forward to this, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD. But I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know which method is safer or more reliable and which method can move more apps, please let me know, thanks.
Comparision of Native apps2sd and Link2SD:
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
)

i can't use that on trueanscetor and NXT ( with doom kernel )
it goes on boot-loop , sometimes it succeed to boot but can't detect my sim-card ( i couldn't have call )
can you please help me

Which method of moving those unmovable apps to SD is better, safer and more stable?
Hi!
I need help, please.
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I don't know which method is better to move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
I have a Sony Xperia Play
My Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer, more reliable or more stable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
I look forward to this, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD. But I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know which method is safer or more reliable and which method can move more apps, please let me know, thanks.
Comparision of Native apps2sd and Link2SD:
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
)

I can vouch for link 2 SD. Gave me quite a lot more storage space. "Lordbattlebeard" helped me set it up in another thread. Admittedly, I don't know much about the other 2 so can't help on that front
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[Experience]Don't use titanium backup to move apps to SDcard

I am used to restore my apps with titanium backup after flashing new rom.
After restoring, I will move all my user apps to internal storage with the function "Move user apps to Internal memory".
Here I have to give sebastiaan15 a huge thanks for his rom "Runnymede 5.3", it's truly amazing!!!!
Let's go down to business. Because sebastiaan15's rom is really too smooth, I was thinking what will happen if I move some apps to SD card with original method?
Yap, my desire crashed. Because I moved apps with function "Move user apps to the SD card" in titanium backup and I forgot that there is some phone only apps.
Actually, I didn't know that function too much. That was the reason why I troubled myself.
Afterward I searched this issue on google. I saw much people had same problem as me and the only answer was reflashing the rom.
I've reflashed my desire without a newer backup. The last backup is few weeks ago. Sadly, my data of angry birds three stars has gone.
Here is what I want to tell you guys....
DO NOT USE TITANIUM TO MOVE APPS TO SD CARD!!!

No offense, but titanium works fine if you use it corrrectly. I have to say, I think this is user error.
But if you're using a rom with a2sd+ you shouldn't be moving anything to SD card anyway.. Because then you are splitting apps accros /data, /SDCARD and /SD-EXT which is just WRONG!

rootSU said:
No offense, but titanium works fine if you use it corrrectly. I have to say, I think this is user error.
But if you're using a rom with a2sd+ you shouldn't be moving anything to SD card anyway.. Because then you are splitting apps accros /data, /SDCARD and /SD-EXT which is just WRONG!
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Yes, it's my bad.
Curiosity killed the cat XD
Without a doubt, titanium is the best backup software, that's why I'm still using it.
I just want to tell you guys my tragedy and I think this function is not really often be used, especially we are using a2sd+.
Thanks for your explanation of why we shouldn't move anything to sd if we are using a2sd+, have a nice day

I no longer use an ext partition for a2sd+ and have used titanium to move user apps many times with no problems.
Even with a2sd+ it should work, but its not recommended as mentioned above.

Some advise, when you are playing games and made heavy progress like your 3 stars on all levels of angry birds, if your using titanium you should back up app + data then copy your titanium folder to you PC.
Back when I was a flash-o-holic I’d make heavy progress on a game while using one rom and then I’d change my ROM and lose my data until I discovered that TB actually backs up your progress.
So now when I set a high score or beat a certain level back up app + data then you can flash and reflash and you wont lose the data.
Also if your flashing frequently I also suggest S-OFF and use the CM7R2 HBOOT and AmaRullz AD2SDX script loads of space with no need to move apps anywhere

Of course, you have to be carefully when you are using titanium backup I use titanium backup for longer time and I have never had any problem. All my apps are in internal memory and I haven't got not enought free space. As you may know you can set autobackup of your apps and system settings for every day
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Hmm you really shouldn't be telling everyone not to use titanium to move apps to sd card because you made an error. It want the app's fault. I use titanium to move apps all the time and no problems whatsoever.
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In order to move all apps to / from SD I use App2SD, which is all you need.
Blaming Titanium for a usage error is not fair, though. Titanium is a very powerful tool. Sometimes, those powerful tools can be used to do something "not so good".

back up
Titanium back up..... i am not use this app because i am confused !!

How is it confusing?
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