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[PROJ] Full UI Via HDMI Out (need a tester)

Okay I have a few ideas on getting this to work, none of which are that difficult. I'm writing up an app right now to try it out, I should have it ready within the next couple hours.
However, I do have a problem, I have no HDMI cable! So can someone who has one get into contact with me on Gmail.
Just send me an email and tell me you'd be happy to test and as long as you'll get with me on GTalk once I send the app to you to discuss whether it works or not and any issues you have.
I'll update this post with more info when I'm done.
EDIT: First alpha sent to my 3 testers. Waiting for a reply from them before more info.

You probably got some volunteers already.. but I do have an hdmi cable and can help if needed.
Thx for working on this

guyver2077 said:
You probably got some volunteers already.. but I do have an hdmi cable and can help if needed.
Thx for working on this
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Actually I haven't had anyone email me yet, so if you wanna hit me up so I have your GTalk for later feel free.
Also, just a little more info, this will probably KILL performance while it is running, since it'll be a loop constantly copying frames from buffer to buffer, but it will probably still be usable. I don't know yet.
Be prepared, it may kill your cat, blow up your house, and then take over the world, all while creating as much heat as a nuclear reactor. (Or it may just work )

Added on Gtalk and email sent. Ready to help you test

Sorry for the delay. Even with the Android dev I've done I've never done anything multithreaded. I have to run the copier in another thread to keep the system from freezing, so I should still get it tonight, but it'll take a little longer than I thought.

Added you to gtalk. Just tested SlingPlayer w/ Evo over HDMI, no joy of course.
Eager to test your app when available.
Thanks,
LK

A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.

oRAirwolf said:
A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.
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As good as that sounds, it wouldn't do me any good
My only HDTV is an old rear projection 1080i that refuses to show 720p. It doesn't even have an HDMI input, it has a DVI, which I have an HDMI adapter for, but it still won't make it show 720p lol.
I need a new tv. Haha

oRAirwolf said:
A quick trip to monoprice.com will net you a male to male mini HDMI to HDMI for about $6 shipped.
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Mini HDMI and Micro HDMI are different.

Okay so the first release is an epic fail. It tries to copy the frame, but it doesn't ever end up over HDMI. Also it takes too long to copy the frame to get smooth video, I can copy ~ 3-5fps max, which is ridiculous. There has to be a better way. And I may have it. Uno momento

ill add my name to the hat if you want to add more to this fun...
oops but im not rooted. so if you need rooted folks then i cant play.... :-(

Can you send the updated versions to the people you sent the beta to?
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where in the heck are you guys finding these HDMI cables?

marctronixx said:
ill add my name to the hat if you want to add more to this fun...
oops but im not rooted. so if you need rooted folks then i cant play.... :-(
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Yeah unfortunately root is required
And I've only send out one version so far, but I'm working on another right now that stands a better chance of working.
I'll keep y'all posted

strung said:
where in the heck are you guys finding these HDMI cables?
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Got mines rather quick from ebay.
They also have them on amazon from Amzer but they wont ship out for a while

tester
[email protected] would love to test this

Subscribing.. Been looking for this for my slingplayer.. -m

I got mine here, it shipped in good time and works perfectly. Also payed with paypal so far I haven't had my identity stolen or anything else crazy like that.
dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37396
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Hows this coming

davidhill21 said:
I got mine here, it shipped in good time and works perfectly. Also payed with paypal so far I haven't had my identity stolen or anything else crazy like that.
dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37396
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DX is the bomb!
Shameless plug: Get me DX points without any extra effort! Click these referral links instead: Same as davidhill21 ($12.20)
Cheaper one I found. Looks like a generic, while the one above is a brand-name copy. ($8.30)
I personally guarantee that when you order them, I will be happy.
Regarding the project: I'm really glad you're doing this. I can't test right now because I don't have a cable (I need more DX points, and then I'll get a free one) but I'm really glad to see this coming along.

Droid 2 Non-Ad Hoc tether?

Hi guys,
I've got a few devices that won't connect to Ad-Hoc network's and I was curious if the Droid 2 was capable of sharing Infrastructure wifi (not ad-hoc). I believe this requires extra hardware on the phone and wasn't sure of the details. If the device does support it, anyone know of tether software that can do this?
-Sidenote, attempting to share with PS3
Sorry if this is a repost, search is currently down.
spamftw

Yup. Check out my tutorial video on how to do it.
http://www.kimete.com/3gtutorial.html

darkonion said:
Yup. Check out my tutorial video on how to do it.
http://www.kimete.com/3gtutorial.html
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Really appreciate it man, exactly what I was looking for. I got a quick question though. That looks a lot like the stock app that you are supposed to pay monthly for. Should I be worried here? (I know tethering is normally against the rules but I felt more comfortable using a custom app).

spamftw said:
Really appreciate it man, exactly what I was looking for. I got a quick question though. That looks a lot like the stock app that you are supposed to pay monthly for. Should I be worried here? (I know tethering is normally against the rules but I felt more comfortable using a custom app).
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It is the stock app but it's been hacked to not charge you for anything. The hack has been put out by Team Black Hat who are pretty smart people so I trust it won't screw you. If you are afraid use it lightly then get your bill and see if any charges accrue.

No Movies for Rooted XOOMs?? Devs unite!

Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.

gdogmcstyles said:
Being that this dev community is the absolute best, I have to bring this to light.
Google Movie Support has just informed me that Google Movies will not work for rooted XOOMs. This just won't fly.
Is there anyone out there working on a fix or workaround for this?
I'd love root. I love movies. We shouldn't have to choose between the two.
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I feel ya bro, and I'm pretty sure the devs are already looking into it. Since it is a DRM authorization issue, it is probably going to be a pretty good hack to get around it.

I'm confused by 2 things on this topic:
1) why does it matter if its rooted or not?
I would assume the answers is because root would allow us some magical privledge of copying a cache and possibly extracting video and then redistributing.
2) how the frig can it tell?
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that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play

Kcarpenter said:
2) how the frig can it tell?
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My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).

Well instead of listening I tried it as well with The Green Hornet and couldn't download it. Kept getting error but these developers will come up with the answers they have been nothing short of amazing when it comes to the Moto Xoom
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kcrudup said:
My guess is either one of: (1) checking for the ro.secure property being set, or (2) doing something "rootable", like being able to read a certain file/directory, etc.
If in the former case, I don't have an idea of what to do that wouldn't require the HC source, but in the case of the latter, it'd be relatively easy to ... wait- don't let me help El Goog out. It's not rocket science (think rootkit, but in reverse).
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Assuming scenario 2, wouldn't Super User prompt for permissions? I would think its likely.
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This is the same with the blockbuster app on the Atrix. I can set SU to block requests from the app, but as long as I'm running rooted, it refuses to play (and tells you when you launch the app).
I don't understand the difference between this and running Itunes or Netflix on a "rooted" (admin capable) PC. Why is the phone different?

This is not development. Moved to general.

theimpaler747 said:
This is not development. Moved to general.
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Your forum, you run it your way, just a question.
With all due respect, couldn't OP remain if modified to [REQUEST] since it's a dev request? General is so filled with crap I think this may get lost. :/

bishop72 said:
that is why i cannot watch green hornet. i rented it to see how it would look on the xoom and it will not play
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So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.

It isn't very surprising to hear. None of the major studios will allow media to be downloaded without some form of restrictive DRM and root access probably violates their policies.

rebill said:
So did you still get charged for it? The wifi version won't even get the movies for awhile. I don't know why Google doesn't have it ready for both.
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? I saw the movie link in Web version of Market.

Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.

cur8or said:
Yeah, you can order/get charged for it but it won't work. Need to contact customer service to get a refund. They told me they'll consider putting in a warning in the future before you buy it.
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Would make more sense for it to check if you're rooted before the transaction goes through.

Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.

Strange, I have unlocked and rooted Nexus One and could play any Netflix video in official Netflix app, so DRM works on rooted system. So may be it's problem with something else?

If you order thru your web browser by going to the web based android market and play it thru your web browser it works.

Thanks for the tip on the browser market thing it works
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nbajwill55 said:
Nice Google, what a great way to pit the development community against you, even though Android would be nothing without us. Sellout.
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Lol you're an idiot. It isn't googles fault they had to do this. If you were selling movies and wanted to make some money, would you want them to be distributed for free without your permission? I think not...

Google anti-rooted devises wtf!!!

people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.

edit: like if they were getting theirs feelings hurt.

You realize you can edit the actual post?

lolocabra said:
people today i rented an movie on the new market and guess what? i got an error 49 that says: this content if not available on rooted devices. this is unbelievable after they take our money they come with this crap like if they were in they getting they feelings. i'm piss off man this is an outrage people.
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Well, you can contact them and get a refund. And I don't think you'll make the same mistake twice.
But I can pretty much 99% guarantee in order to get deals to allow renting of movies on the Market, Google had to tell the studios that they wouldn't allow playback on rooted devices. Google is fine with rooted devices, they clearly allow many rooted apps (even apps that root your phone) on the Market. Its the studios that think there's piracy problem and want no playback on rooted phones, even though that's absolutely retarded, but that's how they feel (look at netflix, they were going to require hardware chips for DRM in android phones to get netflix playback at first).
Cool your jets. It'll be a small matter of time before we have the market cracked open and this root check removed so we can use it. If you're rooted you should have no problem waiting for this, you should understand it. The root community won't rage on this, they'll just fix it for themselves as they always do.

Well think of it this way. Either only nonrooted devices get to rent movies, or no android phones get to rent movies. It's not google, but the studios demanding protection from rooted devices copying their films.
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The content providers are thinking ENTIRELY too hard about this. Ok, so they could have took his money and he could have somehow pirated it off the phone. First off, there are millions of copies of whatever said media floating around anyways. Second of all, by them NOT letting him get it, he is probably just gonna go pirate it. F-in idiots! They should just take everyone's money and be thankful anyone even WANTS to actually pay for it. On a sidenote, it's been highly publicized that rooted phones were not gonna be aloud to access this new paid content on the market. Unfortunately looks like you missed all those articles lol. And i'm pretty sure i remember reading that it will take your money and then tell you that you can't have it.

WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
Edit: just kidding with the post, but really I think it total BS that it wont work on rooted devises. This will pretty much exclude every android user from XDA. I mean, do you know any XDA member that's not rooted?
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Its been like that since way before the new market ever came out!
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TheRomMistress said:
You realize you can edit the actual post?
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yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
lawalty said:
WHAT! YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I CAN'T WATCH MOVIES FROM THE NEW GOOGLE MARKET FROM MY ROOTED PHONE!?!?!
WHEN DID THIS COME ABOUT?!?!?
(all caps rage is for effect)
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ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.

lolocabra said:
yes but the edit button did was not able wen i post again that's why i did another post.
ok i check on my library on the market and i can see the movie on my laptop so at least i'm happy for that. now i could even do other things with it lol.
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LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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xsteven77x said:
LMFAO that's hilarious! I have a feeling this no-rooted crap is not gonna last long. You can stream it to your laptop which has a thousand and one tools to rip that **** straight to piratebay, but you cant watch it on a rooted phone with its limited aspect ratio, quality, and somewhat harder process of ripping. What dumb asses seriously.
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I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !

ohgood said:
I could press this here button and rent your movie, hollywood... oh, I. can't ? you won't allow... it ?
piratebay ... success ! faster, cheaper, and better quality. ha HAAAAAA !
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Ya really. It drives me nuts that they think they are still in a position to be making such demands. If I were the ceo of one of those company, I would be doing everything humanly possible to make it as EASY as possible to obtain their stuff legit. Instead they still want to candy coat it in drm and put restrictions all over the place. Its not like ten years ago where your average person really only knew how to get music. In this day and age even grandma moses knows how to download a movie. And with xbox, ps3 etc., you don't even have to go through the trouble of converting and burning it anymore! I mean seriously. The movie industry is its own worst enemy. The music industry imo has gotten slightly better, but the movie industry is its own worst enemy. At least with music they allow things like pandora, and now spotify. It really has curtailed a lot of my piracy. But the movie industry is still trying to run with this old model that's just not working. 10 dollars a TICKET? Twenty to buy it? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I LOVE how the price of everything in the world has went up, but the average wage has not went up barely at all. Don't get me started! In america music and movies are creature comforts, and they gotta realize were gonna get them one way or the other. Do u want to sell one movie for 20 dollars to one out of five people? Or sell a movie for 10 dollars to 4 out of 5.
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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.

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Its pretty clear whats going on here. And anyone on XDA understands that there is 100000% more piracy on computers where they offer this also than there are on phones.
But the studios don't care. They know piracy happens on computers and they're fighting that battle. They know that they can demand Google remove functionality from rooted devices, so they do. They can't stop it on computers, but they can (in their minds) stop it on Android phones.
You guys are expecting the studios to act rationally on this, since when do you expect them to do that? Like I said before 1) Did you really expect the studios to not block this? and 2) The community will crack this in no time, cool your jets.
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I apologize to the Mistress in advance for being slightly off topic, but Hulu has gotten just as bad. More and more studios are pulling their day after air streaming and making it exclusive to Hulu+. What they don't understand is after I missed a show I would much rather give them ad revenue by watching on Hulu than by torrenting something. Yet they take that away? Greedy idiots.
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You people realize that there has to be something on a phone WITH root compared to a phone withOUT root in order for them to DETECT IT, don't you? What do you suppose that thing is? Probably a command somewhere in the PATH called "su". Want them to not detect that you have root? "mv /path/to/su /path/to/fuisuANYWAY"

will that affect any of the functions of the root?

I don't understand why you're so surprised. This was said would happen when they announced Google Movies in May. Read up.

Why anyone would pay to rent a movie on they're smartphone is beyond me.
Torrent or xdcc that **** and put it on yur sdcard.....voila
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As posted, the devs will get around this. I don't have any devs skills but I'm thinking some type terminal app. Something that retains su permissions to take advantage of the currentwork around.
su
mount -o remount, rw /system
mv /system/xbin/su /system/xbin/mu
Hit home than watch your movie or other paid stuff is done, than reload the same terminal session, which still has su permissions
mv /system/xbin/mu /system/xbin/su
Either the videos or youtube app looks for the su binary. Simply renaming or removing it will yield results.
Perhaps the devs will modify the apps to not check. I only found one instance of su in the videos apk, but I really have no idea what I'm doing , just tinkering and exploring. About to check the youtube apk.
Well that works for me for now...just annoying as ****
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Truth be told anything that is rent-able in the Android Market is already available on torrents anyway! So to put that restriction on rooted phones is almost laughable, considering anyone who went through the process of rooting is almost assuredly a wiz at torrents!

OUYA camera

So, I'm waiting for my Ouya right now, should be here within the week, and I'm wondering if anyone has found a camera that works with it. I have a Microsoft Lifecam HD mounted on my 42" HDTV, and if anyone could help me with figuring out how to make it work I'd be eternally grateful. I'd love to be able to Skype and whatnot on my TV without having to use my PC. Also totally unrelated, but how does everyone like theirs so far? I've been seeing a lot of negative stuff about the Ouya, I just basically need some confirmation that it does, in fact, rock.
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Hm I might try to hookup my USB cam to it. I don't know if it works but sideloading a videochat app (Skype?) and trying it out should be fun. Might do it this week.
And I have to say, despite the bad reviews, my OUYA does rock. I already spent 20 dollars on apps and countless hours in front of the TV. Something I never saw me doing ever again.
I don't know what the people are expecting from it. Of course you don't need it if you already have a PS3/360 and/or a Smart TV but some seem to not understand that.
I hope the XDA community catches on to this thing and development speeds up so we can have nice stuff on our TV.

Prodepressiva said:
Hm I might try to hookup my USB cam to it. I don't know if it works but sideloading a videochat app (Skype?) and trying it out should be fun. Might do it this week.
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Yes please!