Apple Earphones w/ Remote and Mic - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Will Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic work with motorola defy?
I mean will i hear music normal? i had apple ipod shuffle earphones and they worked gread. not sure for this one with remote.. has anyone tryed?

Check around here, I've posted my findings. I'll let you find your answer.

I've tried them and yes the earphones and mic work flawlessly.
The buttons however are somewhat erratic. During a call, it sometimes work. But when I'm not on a call, it never worked.

I suggest you try the P series of Meelectronics headphones. I use Meelectronics M9 and the quality for the price is awesome. I ordered the M9P (P is at the end of every model that has microfone), can't wait to try it out.
On their website it says that many Android phones are supported (Defy is supported).
Phone Version Device Compatibility (designated as the P version)
M9P review. Other can be googled.

Well, i have some Apple In-Ear Headphones, but nor the Microphone to the Remote works correctly. The Microphone does not work at all, phone does not recieve any signalling from the headphone, the only thing is pressing middle-button produces a short circuit detected by the phone. Remote does not work correctly, middle-button does nothing at all and + and - buttons sort of double presses-hold the call button, so in some apps you can change tracks. In PowerAmp you can change to next track by pressing + or - button. In stock music player, pressing those just toggles play/pause and fire the music app.
I readed a lot about this and its something to do with the circuitery inside the remote, made to work on iPhones and iPods and not well understood by android phones. About the mic, my theory is that it does not work because of the resistance of the microphone inside, checked connections and should work, also tried with differents headphones w/mic and they worked....
definitly you should try them before, if you're planning getting those, maybe you're lucky and mic works like arvs0z and use "Headset Button Control" App to fix the issue about controls.
EDIT: Got them working almost flawlessly
Removing some resistors from the remote, i got the center button and microphone working, the only problem is that the microphone has very low imput gain, its almost unusable, got to get it VERY close to the mouth to get a very soft signal in phone. BTW the center button works almost prefectly, but + and - dont work at all.

arvs0z said:
I've tried them and yes the earphones and mic work flawlessly.
The buttons however are somewhat erratic. During a call, it sometimes work. But when I'm not on a call, it never worked.
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really how its possible I tried but mic is not working, somebody here said that due to some resister inside the mic so its work only with certain model and iphone only
Urvish

jollyb said:
I suggest you try the P series of Meelectronics headphones. I use Meelectronics M9 and the quality for the price is awesome. I ordered the M9P (P is at the end of every model that has microfone), can't wait to try it out.
On their website it says that many Android phones are supported (Defy is supported).
Phone Version Device Compatibility (designated as the P version)
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hey, and what you think about these Melectronics M9P? It is a good choice i think and i might also get one of these for myself!

Maybe of topic, but I used a pals Blackberry headset for couple of days and earphones and mic worked flawlessly. no music controls only the answer call button though.

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hey, and what you think about these Melectronics M9P? It is a good choice i think and i might also get one of these for myself!
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Using the m9p and i'm very satisfied. Defy & m9p, perfect match. Music quality is awesome, switching songs, answering calls without a problem...

using apple headset too! works perfectly

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using apple headset too! works perfectly
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How did you get this working?
I tried my Samsung Galaxy S headphones in the Defy but they do not fit. I have Apple Iphone headphones (the one with a volume control and mic) and these work fine for music but I do not have music controls or MIC.

Anybody know where I can get stock defy earphones?
I really like them . But the left earpiece is broken
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I read lot of posts about Apple headsets, buts i can't find answer.
I have iPhone compatibble Logitech Ultimae Ears earphones with mic and three buttons like this:
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Earphones works, but microphone and buttons don't work (yes, i read threads about it) - i look headset have 4-pole JACK, but when connector is pluged in phone i can see last pole of JACK:
My question: my Defy have only stereo (3-pole) jack, or why i can't insert conector completly?
Thanks 4 answers.
sorry for my english

Defy has a 4 pole jack and that's exactly how my headphones' jack looks like (it's because of the jack position).

Male_zvire said:
I read lot of posts about Apple headsets, buts i can't find answer.
I have iPhone compatibble Logitech Ultimae Ears earphones with mic and three buttons
Earphones works, but microphone and buttons don't work (yes, i read threads about it)
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What version of UE headphones do you have? Did you ever get the microphone to work?

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Turn your JAM to ultimate MP3 player

This is the first mod that I am doing to all my PocketPC Phone devices - modifying stereo headset. Original ones are Ok if you intend using them for 10 minutes or so, after that is just a plain torture. Well, at least for me.
Here is the result of my mod. Standard heads are replaced with SONY MDR EX51LP. Paired with this little addon for adjusting bass and treble it creates amazing result. In fact, it sounds better than any standalone mp3 player
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14317
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Wwoo nice.. talking about torture. I used the ones that come with the PDA2K for 50 min straight now.. Jesus... it made me think the machine it self output garbage. The ones that come with the PDA2K are more suited for calls not music.. I wonder if there's anywhere to purchase something like you did. I don't have time myself for modifications.. I wouldn't mind the mic.. Maybe i'll just find a plug converter and plugin my sony's to the i-mate.. Good job you did.. looks professional
Thanks
It took me maybe 15 min to do
Of course, adapter will work, but them if someone calls you while you listen to the music you'll have to unplug headset and use the unit itself. In this case, just press a buttom
Another good solution is to buy the SE headset. It works just fine with the JAM including the mic. I may go for the one with the radio on it as well. And that makes the Compact/JAM really complete!!
kta said:
Another good solution is to buy the SE headset. It works just fine with the JAM including the mic. I may go for the one with the radio on it as well. And that makes the Compact/JAM really complete!!
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which one are you refering to?
can you show step,, by step, how to do it???. Can you also post more pictures?
I'm assuming this will also work with the XDAII headset
I prefer use a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adatpor for listen mp3.....
not every people want to convert their expansive earphone to a XDA-ONLY handsfree...
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I prefer use a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adatpor for listen mp3.....
not every people want to convert their expansive earphone to a XDA-ONLY handsfree...
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I would say replace the 2 earspeaker units instead of cut in the middle of the line. Also, both earphone can be reverse to the very begin when need....
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I prefer use a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adatpor for listen mp3.....
not every people want to convert their expansive earphone to a XDA-ONLY handsfree...
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Nobody got a gun to their heads
Yorch said:
can you show step,, by step, how to do it???. Can you also post more pictures?
I'm assuming this will also work with the XDAII headset
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I can't post step-by-step pictures since unit is already assembled. sorry. But it's really easy:
1. Take apart this middle thingy by inserting your nails or very thin plastic knife. Meake sure no ti brake 4 little plastic clips, 2 on each side.
2. Take off top part.
3. Gently push wire from headphones side in to give some freedom for the circut board.
4. Lift it up the cisrcuit board and expose soldering points
5. Write down existing coloring of the wires soldered.
5. Unsolder
6. Cut appropriate lenght from Sony or whatever you wanna use.
7. Prepare wires for soldering
8. Don't forget to twist the wire the same manner as the original was.
9. Test headphones with case open and make sure both channels are working
10. Gently close cover
Sorry, was typing this in the rush. Feel free to ask more
I'm with ya
could you post a close up picture of the soldering?
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I'm with ya
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Right on!
How come you dont have any name on your unit? Did you remove it? If you did, how?
Sure..
@ID64 Remove "MDA T-Mobile" Print from cover!?
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@ID64 Remove "MDA T-Mobile" Print from cover!?
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Thanks
Sugar did the trick! It looks much better now without blue imate/jam letters.
I am not big fan of badges on anything
How did you remove the logos?
Definitely something I want to do
P
From imate or from the car?
From imate - with sugar cube
From car - with dental floss
P.S. You never know when and where those households thing might become handy
I prefer use a 2.5mm -> 3.5mm stereo adatpor for listen mp3.....
not every people want to convert their expansive earphone to a XDA-ONLY handsfree...
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I think of attaching a 3.5mm female plug just above the accept/reject button on the headphones so i can plug any headphones + i won't loose my expensive shruce..
but i always face problems in baring the wires of headphones they are very thin and fragile and can be cut easily i don't know about xda II headphones but im afraid that i will end up loosing it..
ID64 what do you think is the most adequate method of baring the wires????

No sound without headset

Hi guys,
can somebody please help me with the following problem?
Out of nothing my T-Mobile MDA Vario stopped giving sound with out the headset connected.
Every once and while it just works again, without any reason and the out of nothing it stops giving sound without the headset connected.
I have the exact same problem. I can only use my phone right now with a bluetooth headset.
I even tried to do a hard reset and nothing is fixed.
Can anyone help me?
Use the forum search engine - this is a very common issue.
The chip that switches between the built-in speaker and the wired headset very easily gets destroyed - in most cases it's short-circuit when you insert the wired headset into the phone. Nothing can be done to perevent this - except for NEVER using ANY wired headset (but a BT one instead)
Well, I never used the wired headset before. Only the BT.
well, sounds silly, but when i don't get sound without something plugged into the jack, i blow into the hole... that seems to work...
admittedly i can't use my stereo wired headphones anymore, because the radioshack adapter has a slightly bigger plugend that stretched out the insides... weee! (i use the adapter connected to another adapter that connects to rca cables that connect to a car amp...)
Sounds like your issue has to do with hardware but this happened to me once and it was a software issue. I had no sound at all, it only worked with a wired headset and I soft reseted mupltiple times and still nothing. What I did was soft reset it with the wired headset still plugged in and after it finished starting up I disconnected the headset and my sound worked again.
Strangely enough this worked
zetajunkie said:
well, sounds silly, but when i don't get sound without something plugged into the jack, i blow into the hole... that seems to work...
admittedly i can't use my stereo wired headphones anymore, because the radioshack adapter has a slightly bigger plugend that stretched out the insides... weee! (i use the adapter connected to another adapter that connects to rca cables that connect to a car amp...)
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Strangely enough this worked!!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!
Thanks a lot guys! blowing the hole of the headset connector solved the problem on my htc prophet too! excellent!! (never would have thought of that, in fact i already was taking the phone apart LOL, luckily i found this post while doing it)
it works for xda2 himalaya..
just blow into it.. crazy solution that works
It worked on Compact (Magician) also
Hey, you saved my money... It worked for my Magician also.
Thanks a lot
AKa
i guess i have the same problem....the chip is broken so every time i make a call....long press the green or call button...the speakerphone will be enable...
Holy ****! this worked!!
Kind of makes me nostalgic for the original Nintendo, with those cartridges you have to blow on to "clear the dust" from the connections. Chances were better it was just your spit making a better connection back then. I wonder if the same applies here...
...I sleep now.
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Zetajunkie,
your solution is timeless. thanks a million dude. It still works when the bugger goes silent
Easy fix
When that happens - don't panic, just insert a thin screwdriver into the audio jack and wiggle it lightly. Helps if you have music or any audio file playing on your device at the same time.
Generally you get it when you pull out the wired headset and trip the switch, that gets stuck. Very common problem, everyone is always amazed I could sort it out on the spot within seconds. Try it. Just be gentle!!!!
Thanks!!
It worked for me with a thin screwdriver
Oh....my.....gawd!?!? but anyways if you have an O2 Atom Life... make sure you push near the bottom, cause thats where the button is.... gawd i hate when manufacturers do a dodgy job
In my case I don't have sound and the microphone isn't working. What Can I Do? Is something broken on the HTC?
when I have this problem I go to the comm manager and disable the phone for about 3-5 min then reconnect the phone. it works for me. the 1st few times it work for a day, 4days ect. now its been working going on 2 months.....(knock on woody wood)
I opened my Wizard, got to the phone jack, removed a tiny bit of dust from the inside, closed the phone, and it never lost sound again!
It's not that hard to open the phone, but if you're not very handy, ask for someone that works with this kind on stuff to help you.
I did this entire procedure in less then 5 minutes.

REVIEW: Nokia Bluetooth Stereo Headphone BH-503

I just received my Nokia Bluetooth Stereo Headphone BH-503 and thought I would share my experience with you all.
Since this is my 4th bluetooth stereo headset I wanted to make sure this headset would sound better and had no connection breakdowns. I hate the clipping and stutter during what supposed to be a happy music moment. So I read allot of reviews of allot of headsets and this one caught my attention. I bought this headset online from www.one2remember.nl and it costs 90 euro's. (in Holland)
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It comes with a charger (off course), a manual in 20 languages or so and a handy transport bag. The overall first impression is good. Feels solid compared to the jabra bt620s or the moto ht820.
One of the top things about this headset is that it almost completely covers the ears. As I ride my bike alto in Holland and we have windy weather most of the time I found this headset to isolate you completely from you surrounding. Also the weight of the headset does not trouble me. At first you feel a bit of pressure on your ears but after 5 minutes the only thing reminds you of wearing a headset is the music you will be hearing.
During my test drive I got a call from a friend and to my surprise he actually understood me. As there was wind I didn’t need to stop for him to be able to hear me which is a big fat PLUS!
Another plus point is the charging time. It is full within one hour. And it should last for about 10 hours. (haven’t tested yet as I have it only 3 hours)
The buttons of the headset are completely flat and if you don’t know which button is which it is hard to press the right one. But I guess you just have to get used to it. But this also is a plus since you aren’t most likely to accidental press a button.
Sound quality is great. There is allot of bass to it and the distortion I experienced with other headsets is gone.
Also the bluetooth range is exceptional. The manual says it is able the transfer the music up to 10m but within a 5m range it’s best but when I go outside the 5m range music is good up to 9m. Further than 9m music is going to stutter.
Overall conclusion; It is not the cheapest headset but man I love it!!
Nice review! Though i think a button should not be flat, if you should not press it accidentally it should be hard to push that button .
You are talking about that this is your 4th headset, which are the other 3? It makes a nice comparison.
I hate it when I wear it around my neck (not listening to music) and the collar of my jacket keeps pressing the dial button. So that's why I don't mind having flat buttons.
I've had the motorola ht820, jabra bt620s and the plantronics pulsar 590E.
None of them sounded as clear and loud as the nokia.
I've been using it for the last 1,5 week and it is still the best I've had.
Just lovin it
cool was thinking about getting that one
Hi,
I am thinking of getting BH-503, but nowhere I can find its sensitivity ... is it loud enough?
Thnx
Problem with mic in using HTC Desire with BH 503
I have just purchased BH 503. The problem i faced it that it connects with Phone and Media profiles well. but It seems that Mic is not working. As when I pair the device it shows headset only and not Mic.
Does anybody faced this issue?
Appreciate your kind help in this regard.
Will this headset works with samsung galaxy note?
Celdur said:
Will this headset works with samsung galaxy note?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u06frELke0E[YOUTUBE]
Wow a post!

Wired headsets in which the button works?

Ive just accidentally broken the headsets that came with the phone, and now Im looking for another headset.
The problem with our phone is that the pinout (the mic and ground pins) is inverted in comparison to samsung, LG, HTC etc ). Therefore, we cant buy just about any headset. Also, I want a wired headset (not a wireless one).
Is anyone using a wired headset in which the button works? I want to be able to take and drop calls, and long press to skip track (which would work if taking and dropping calls works).
Yes, I'm using Jabra Chill headset (got it new for 10€), the pins on the jack are the same as original Huawei headset. Also I'm using Headset Button app, that can emulate multi button headset, so I can skip tracks, forward/reverse songs, etc.
Thanks for the info. Just needed to know one more thing. Does the mic work as well? Can you use the button to receive calls? Also, do you have a u8800 or one of the variants? Is there any difference in the pinout for the u8800 and the variants?
Mine phone is U8800, my brother has U8800 pro. Both phones have same pinout. The microphone and the button is also working. If you are using the Aurora rom, you should also tick "use headset microphone" in sound settings.
Do you know a headset like the one you pointed but in-ear?
Those are better at isolating the ambient sound.
Ive ordered one. Lets hope it works out when it is delivered. Thanks for the help Schrauff.
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Do you know a headset like the one you pointed but in-ear?
Those are better at isolating the ambient sound.
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Maybe these? http://www.jabra.com/sites/mobile/na-us/products/pages/jabrarhythm.aspx?tab=support#UID6
I haven't tried them out, but they have 4-pin 3,5mm jack and mic+button.
I'm also found the a-JAYS One+ which is a great looking headsets with a flat tangle-free cable and has a mic+button.
Here's a nice review: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...and-performance-without-a-hit-to-your-wallet/
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Anyone tried one and can confirm that the button works?
Just got the Sony Ericsson MH-650. In ear, perfect noise isolation and the button works quite well. Awesome sound quality as well. Thumping bass and crystal clear trebles
Totally recommended for everyone. At Rs. 1500 (do your conversions, I'm too lazy), theyre really nice.
Just bought a Novero Brooklyn Wired Stereo Headset with Mic http://www.novero.com/collections/music-headsets/brooklyn.html but it turns out that it's not compatibly.
I listen only one channel on both phones and when I click the button I listen regular stereo.
They seem to be great headphones, but not compatible with our 8800.
Crap
Found this life-saver converter:
Adapter Pinout: T-T, R1-R1, R2-S, S-R2
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here
It switches the Ring2 with the Sleeve.
Probably there are more cheaper version on ebay/dealexterme.
Apparently our phone has Sony Ericsson Xperia compatible pinouts, not iPhone compatible.

[Q] DIY controller form headphone jack

Hey i would like to control the volume the song selection (next , previous, pause ) and accept calls from the headphone jack.
I was wondering if it was possible to do all these things from a headphone jack and still pass trough the audio.
If it was possible i would like to control these aspects using a micro controller (attiny 85).
I am aware of some headsets which are capable of doing this so i thought it should be possible, but haven't found much on the subject.
I found an article and a diagram (hack a day) on how to achieve the song selection.But i stil don't know how i would accept and decline calls and control the volume.
I think the accept and decline calls feature would be the same as play pause. Not 100% sure but isn't it play pause on apple headsets that answers calls?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
ourtut said:
I think the accept and decline calls feature would be the same as play pause. Not 100% sure but isn't it play pause on apple headsets that answers calls?
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That could be the case, but i cant test that as i don'et own any kind of headset.
schpongo said:
That could be the case, but i cant test that as i don'et own any kind of headset.
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Check out this thread http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii/189523-final-soultion-why-most-headsets-wont-work.html Good luck!
Thx that was really helpful. Now i know that the volume is controlled by the the mic now i just need to know what i have to do there.
For example if i want to pause a song i need to ground the sleeve part ( the gold part of a TRRS headphone connector that is closest to the sleeve ) of the headphone jack. Now i just need to know how i can adjust the volume. Iv been looking on google but as of yet i have been unsuccessful .
Let me just copy and edit that text over here, because their website CSS is quite borked, misisng text......
In all of the following explanations- imagine that the tip of the plug is facing right.
The standard 3.5 mm headphones (no in-line controls on the cable) use the configuration of (from left to right)
TRS (Tip, Ring, Sleeve). The pin-out for these connections is: Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground.
Connection types for headphones with a mic (and newer ones with volume control) are configured in
TRRS (Tip, Ring, Ring, Sleeve).
On TRRS there are 2 types:
1. The original TRRS configuration was created by Nokia and has a pinout of: Left Audio, Right Audio, Mic, Ground.
2. Apple came along and in typical elitist fashion changed their pinout to: Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground, Mic.
This is why many apple headsets will not work with android, because the last 2 connections, for Mic and Ground are switched. The issue is with the hardware.
The way that songs are skipped (forwards, backwards, and pause) occurs by sending signals down the ground channel (when you tap the button it shoots an electrical signal that the phone will pick up and interpret).
The way that volume is increased/decreased occurs by sending signals down the Mic channel.
This is why- if you try a set of newer iPhone earbuds on the SGS3- as I have- the center button does nothing, but yet the volume up and volume down both pause tracks, and allow you to skip them!!
Additionally, Apple has patents on their TRRS connection- in fact on the resistances (the actual ohm resistance in-line on the controls- not to get scientific or anything
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) so that the headphones are designed to work only with Apple products. In other words- you could have a device with the same TRRS Pinout as apple products- but the headset wont work because the resistances (ohms) of the headphones send signals that your phone is not allowed to interpret into the correct actions (since apple patented these)​[djdosage]

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