Kal-El - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.

BlueGoldAce said:
Anyone who just recently purchased this device debating a return following this news?
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-kal-el-quad-core-tablets-coming-fall-phones-early-2012
Just looking for what people's take is on this. I tend to debate my buying decisions until I can't return the device haha.
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I too read and saw all those kal-el quad core, and was quite excited. But again, the technology changes the moment something new comes in the market.
On side note, I got $100 price match @ BB for 32gb + $60 reward certificate. So no buyers remorse here.
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Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.

Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Agreed......

Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....

5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Name one device that will be on store shelves within 30 days that is based on Tegra 3. (If you can't, then it is YOU who are incorrect in saying that "tegra 3 is coming out NOW".)

Zargon335 said:
Nope. There is always something better on the horizon. I'll enjoy my time with the Tab for now, and buy a newer/better one when the time comes.
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same here. only thing is that i don't see a real use for quad core yet as nothing has taxed 2 cores yet - other than benchmarks and having to software decode some videos. where are the apps that will need this kind of power?

5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.

Tegra 3 may be coming but since not one device has been announced or even leaked I'll bet it's at least another three month till we see a new tegra 3 tablet. I wouldn't hold my breath, it's maybe even more realistic that the device makers wait for the Christmas sale.

tghockey07 said:
Every one of your posts are negative. If tegra 3 takes as long as tegra 2 took to come out, we are looking at a possible release of maybe late next year. I doubt NVIDIA would be dumb enough to release it now when their tegra 2 chips are selling like mad.
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Whaaaa??? Tegra 2 has been out for over a year now. Yes over a YEAR. It was googles fault for not finishing honeycomb in a timely manner.
Most Mfrs have STOPPED production of tegra 2 units, xoom production for example has ended over a month ago.
Tegra 3 is here, its READY, and Mfr are producing stock of tegra 3 tablets right NOW.
Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.

Tegra 3 tablets will be here to purchase in September. Unless you have money to burn it would be very foolish to buy tegra 2 unit now.
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I just wish we had solid proof/confirmation that the Kal-El Tabs will be available to consumers as early as that, there's just so much speculation.
I'm very close to ordering a 32 Gig Tab 10.1 after waiting ... and waiting .... for it to be released over here. I'm now fed up with waiting but I'd be very pissed if I were to shell out almost £500 only to find that the Quad core version was to be launched a few weeks later.

Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!

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Its like buying a new car and loosing thousands just by driving it off the lot.
You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!
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Again you are simply wrong. You're not going to have to wait long because tegra 3 tablets are being released in September. They are being Mfred right now and its a MASSIVE upgrade from tegra 2 which is over a year old now.
You cant win this debate with "You sit there and wait for the next best thing....you will be waiting a long time!!" because it is simply not true in this case.
I dont understand how others dont understand this....

As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.

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As far as I know the only quad-core mobile device that will be available to consumers this fall/winter is the PS Vita. If quad-core tablets are arriving this fall you'd think we would have seen announcements, leaks or previews by now yeah?
Either way, I purchased my tab fully aware that quad-core devices would be likely be arriving within 6 to 8 months. I don't regret the purchase as I've been happy with the performance of the tab and I make use of it every day. As of right now I expect to keep the device until software is released that the tab isn't powerful enough to run.
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At this point Mfrs are keeping a VERY hush hush attitude about the new Tegra 3 unit they are producing right now. Why? Because they dont want tegra 2 sales to suffer. They know tegra 2 is OLD despite what consumers think and releasing information about such a massive upgrade to Tegra 3 would only hinder old tegra 2 unit sales.
I can tell you for sure Tegra 3 units from ALL mfrs are being kept HIGHLY secretive until launch date. The only way we will get any info about them is when they hit the FCC. After they hit the FCC they are usually out on the floor for sale the following week.
You have to understand that my knowledge flows far beyond computers, and tablets all the way to economics which is why its easy for me to understand what is going on.

5thElement said:
Incorrect. Someone who is on a budget would be foolish to purchase a tegra 2 tablet today as once tegra 3 is released VERY soon they will lose half the value of the tablet before they even have begun to finish learning how to use it.
You are incorrect because even thought there is always something better on the horizon, tegra 3 is coming out NOW so there is no point in wasting money on current tegra 2 units. Very bad form....
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So you agree with me?
Also, where are all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?

Zargon335 said:
So you agree with me?
Also, where all the Tegra 3 devices that are out now?
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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.

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Yes I do agree, but it is not relevant in this case since tegra 3 is so ridiculously close that it would be foolish to buy tegra 2 now unless you have money to literally throw out the window.
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Any further insight on the Tegra 3 devices you stated are out now? Or was that just BS as well?

It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.

MMcCraryNJ said:
It's amazing, if you look around these forums long enough you start to realize that 5thElement's only role is to troll the hell out of everyone. Every other thread he contradicts himself, sometimes saying the exact opposite of what he's posted before.
It's really sad that people who might be new to XDA or a new Tab owner will be misled by this character, probably because this person is extremely bored and screwing around with others is their hobby.
No wonder people have sworn off XDA.
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Haha i havent been on these forums long, but its common knowledge that 5thElement hasno idea what hes talking about. Its funny really. I just sit back and laugh
Btw posting this from my outdated tab 10.1 lol

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[INFO] Asus Announces Tegra 3 Tablet Specs

Well getting tired of your Transformer's odd lag maybe you need the next version.
5x Tegra 2 performance...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/asus-planning-quad-core-tegra-3-and-intel-based-tablets/
Hope they still have someone working on ours
That'll be nice.
The ultimate tablet would be very fast, snappy, multitask like a champ and play any video you throw at it.
This market moves so fast most shipping devices get left behind.
Wonder what a used Transformer will sell for when the new ones ship?
If it is anything like the Transformer then count me in.
same, I'll hand this one to the misses.
Does the current transformer really lag a lot after putting it through a lot of multitasking? If so, maybe I'll wait for the quadcore one.. I just don't feel like waiting till Oct. lol.
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If it is anything like the Transformer then count me in.
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Asus has said the Transformer will be a line of tablets, and the keyboard dock should be compatible with future tablets.
Winning strategy in my book.
But I just got mine DAMIT!!!!! Not even a week old
I guess I'll be shelling out more money at the end of year. If you look at their road map for the Tegra chip there is one slated from every year until 2014.
Chart under the two video's
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nvidia-announces-quad-core-kal-el-soc-promises-it-in-tablets-by/
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But I just got mine DAMIT!!!!! Not even a week old
I guess I'll be shelling out more money at the end of year. If you look at their road map for the Tegra chip there is one slated from every year until 2014.
Chart under the two video's
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nvidia-announces-quad-core-kal-el-soc-promises-it-in-tablets-by/
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Mind that the Tegra II is a 2010 product... but it's really taking until this year to get good products that have it under the hood.
I'd expect late LATE 2011 before the Tegra III is in tablets, if not early 2012.
And think about it, your Transformer is a great tablet. It will still be working great at the start of 2012!
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Mind that the Tegra II is a 2010 product... but it's really taking until this year to get good products that have it under the hood.
I'd expect late LATE 2011 before the Tegra III is in tablets, if not early 2012.
And think about it, your Transformer is a great tablet. It will still be working great at the start of 2012!
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Yeah I know. I had the Viewsonic G-Tab back in Dec. The first Tegra 2 tablet but I returned them (wife and mine) to staples b/c the screen was super crap and it ran froyo with all the mobile phone components still under the hood.
As long as we have developers to continue giving us the latest software from Google or Asus continues supporting it, I'm cool with the current model for the next year or so.
Thunderbolt Rooted!
Realistically, i think we will be seeing a Tegra 3 tablet this holiday season or somewhere after CES in 2012
If you look at Nvidias release schedule, they plan on releasing a new tegra processor every year, i wont be getting a new tablet every year thats for sure
I am not really that interesting in the quad core factor of the Tegra 3, mostly the increased GPU cores and the inclusion of the NEON instruction set for ARM which really increases performance, it was stupid of them to not include it in Tegra 2
I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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^This I bet it wont be until spring 2012 or later...
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hippieschuh said:
I love how the chart shows "Tegra 2 - 2010" while the modell is not even avaible at half 2011
Tegra 3 - 2012 would be more realistic
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The Viewsonic G Tablet and Malata tablets were out in November of 2010 with a Tegra 2.
^ That.
Plus the Transformer was the first Asus tablet (in the modern sense of the word), they needed time for R&D, etc; I think the fact it's on a Tegra II is a result of nothing better being available earlier this year.
I'm sure once the T3s comes out, they will be much faster to market.
(Don't get me wrong, the Tegra 2 is excellent.)
If Asus releases a Tegra 3 tablet this summer, it will probably be more then $400
My guess around $600
Because it would be stupid to release a new low cost tablet when they just released one in the spring....
This thread reminds me of that one Best Buy commercial with the newer stuff.
They even use tablets at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
Gbcue said:
This thread reminds me of that one Best Buy commercial with the newer stuff.
They even use tablets at the beginning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAAZ7iXN-o
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You bought the wrong tablet silly head!
Like others have mentioned, if we see a shipping Tegra 3 tablet before Xmas I'd be floored. Granted the Transformer got most of the R&D out of the way and the tablet intricacies should be mostly ironed out now, I just can't see Asus releasing an updated version within 3 months of their initial tablet release.

[Q] Buy NOW or Wait for Tegra 3 Transformer?

Now that it's been said that Asus will be coming out with some Tegra 3 tablets this year, should I wait on buying the Transformer and wait for a Tegra 3 Transformer?
With all the problems of the TF101, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 3 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer (Tegra 2) easily...)
if you can wait, then wait. If you must have a tablet now, then get the tf. =)
In a year's time:
With all the problems of the TF201, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 4 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer X (Tegra 3) easily...)
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but yes..if you need a tablet now..get tf
should i buy a 2011 model year car or wait for the 2012s they're right around the corner.. but then the 2013s will be coming in spring of 2012, and from there your just a stretch away from the 2014 models.. hmm
I couldn't wait so I got the transformer.
To be honest if a tegra 3 transformer comes out this holiday season I will prolly end up picking it up. As long as the rumors of both using the dock are true of course.
Alex2x3 said:
I couldn't wait so I got the transformer.
To be honest if a tegra 3 transformer comes out this holiday season I will prolly end up picking it up. As long as the rumors of both using the dock are true of course.
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If its from ASUS and has Transformer in its product name then its confirmed it will utilize a dock, and its been confirmed from ASUS it will utilize the same docking station as the TF101
But I suspect by that time, they will release a new docking station that is slimmer to match suspected slimmer tegra 3 varient.
To stay on topic, buy now if you can, play with it, see if you really need the cpu/gpu capbilities of the Tegra 3 with the apps you are using (I suspect everything will run perfectly fine on the Tegra 2 with the latest OTA, mine does!), then when the Tegra 3 varient comes out, either give your TF to a friend or family member, or sell it on eBay if you want to upgrade!
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If its from ASUS and has Transformer in its product name then its confirmed it will utilize a dock, and its been confirmed from ASUS it will utilize the same docking station as the TF101
But I suspect by that time, they will release a new docking station that is slimmer to match suspected slimmer tegra 3 varient.
To stay on topic, buy now if you can, play with it, see if you really need the cpu/gpu capbilities of the Tegra 3 with the apps you are using (I suspect everything will run perfectly fine on the Tegra 2 with the latest OTA, mine does!), then when the Tegra 3 varient comes out, either give your TF to a friend or family member, or sell it on eBay if you want to upgrade!
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Thats exactly what I am thinking about though. If they make it slimmer, or cut down on some bezel how can the same dock be used? Will it come with an adapter you think? Or if they use a new texture on it. I hope your right though.
I had planned to wait,after all I have a laptop and a rooted nook color so I didn't "need" a new tablet. Having taken the plunge though I can tell you that I'm delighted,Transformer works beautifully and has so much community interest that it will just get better!
Also,there's something quite satisfying about getting newly released products instead of having to wait 6 months.
If you're actually going to use a tablet for anything meaningful to you, that is, anything that makes you more productive or enhances your life in any way, then why would you wait? Besides the fact that you'll be waiting forever for the "best" technology product to be released, you'll also spend months NOT doing the things you'd use a tablet for.
And if you can go months without using a tablet for those things, then why buy one in the first place?
I think you should wait for Tegra 5.
This thing is smooth as butter. No need to wait the future is here.
BUY BUY BUY .... SELL SELL SELL!
Thats just my opinion!
This thing is faaaast. The only issues that are present right now are mostly related to Honeycomb. That should be an easy thing to fix
this tablet is barely even launched. i don't think they're going to whip around with another tablet so fast.
fastfood8891 said:
this tablet is barely even launched. i don't think they're going to whip around with another tablet so fast.
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You never know, they could release the new one and cut the price of the TF101.
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Now that it's been said that Asus will be coming out with some Tegra 3 tablets this year, should I wait on buying the Transformer and wait for a Tegra 3 Transformer?
With all the problems of the TF101, it sounds more and more like "wait till the end of the year" when the Tegra 3 stuff will be out (and one can actually get a Transformer (Tegra 2) easily...)
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Even if --and that is IF-- Tegra 3 is out by the end of this year, manufacturers will still need time to actually make the tablets. (Just like Tegra 2, which was released MUCH earlier than the first mass produced Tegra 2 tablets)
I can tell you right now to just take these ETA's with a grain of salt. They are always at least a month or two behind. (even vaporware sometimes)
Hell, it takes Apple, who has unlimited resources, to make a new version once a year. And they still have shortages...
Remember, you haven't gotten product releases: you are getting product plans. There is a difference between having a product almost done to having one in my mind.
The cheapest thing for Asus to do is to "update" their current line with Tegra 3 so they don't actually have to make a new product. If they're simply "refreshing their line" with Tegra 3, then yes end of year is possible. But, they already bought tons of Tegra 2 chips; I seriously doubt they'd want to peeve their customers by putting in Tegra 3 only a few months after buying a TF. Plus, I still see them trying to get the tablet slimmer and lighter.
I think an end of year date is possible, but I would bet that it takes till at least Feb of 2012 before they come out with a new line of Tegra 3 tablets. (Asus or any other manufacturer)
Get the TF now and see if a tablet is actually useful for you right now. If not, sell it/return it and reevaluate when the T3 tablet is out
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I think you should wait for Tegra 5.
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But tegra 6 tablets would be out soon so why?
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But tegra 6 tablets would be out soon so why?
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Tegra 6 has nothing on Tegra 7. Don't waste your money on Tegra 6. Actually, scratch that, Tegra 8 is way better than Tegra 7.
One word. Plastics.

[Q] To keep, or to sell?

I have the money and the ability to buy the Acer using the $100 gift card and i WILL be buying the Acer tomorrow.
NOTE: I already have a 7" Archos Internet tablet buy am looking to upgrade.
The only question i have is...
A) Do i open the tablet, have fun with it and hope that it will last long enough before the quad core (or more specifically, 7/8" honeycomb) tablets come out?
B) Sell the device on eBay which in turn would net me a profit of £70-80 which i could put towards a newer tablet? (yes i do live in the UK but i am on holiday )
Thanks for any advice that any of you are able to give me.
Mike.
Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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Where is the 'don't bother buying it' option?
Doesn't sound like you want it at all. Save your money for what will really make you happy.
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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I was going to answer this question with somewhat the same answer, but passed on by, as I wouldn't have been as diplomatic as you were gamma. Mine would have included finding a hooker that takes gift cards?!
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XD
It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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XD
It just seems stupid to me to pass up on making £80.
Although this is the tablet that i have been looking at for a while i dont think it would hurt to look at both options.
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As it seems stupid to me to be asking strangers what to do with your money. Get it with your gift card, and put it on eBay and make your profit!
Now you have your answer!
Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Why not wait for a 2 quad core? Actually, if you just hang in there for a bit more time, you could get a multi-core tablet. In fact, if you wait a few more years, there's no doubt they'll have a quantum core tablet for you.
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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Thats what's bugging me, im thinking that quad cores will be out by Q1 2012 but i will benefit by waiting for more of them (just look at dual core)
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lol, he was being sarcastic.
Anyway, you can't play the waiting game forever. Who knows what will be coming up after Quad Core tablets. For all you now, 6 core ones will be coming in Summer of 2012, then you'll want to wait on those. Impulse buying is never a good thing, but waiting and waiting isn't either. You have to take the plunge at some point.
I'm assuming you're buying the tablet in the U.S in order to turn that kind of profit in the U.K. But will you be turning a profit? I mean - what if you decide you DO want something before the quad cores come? That would mean you'll have to shell out MORE for another A500 or something else, since they are all more expensive there.
My advice would be to just pick carefully now - or decide definitively to wait for a quad core solution and stick with that decision. It's not worth it to get it now and then sell it for £80 profit, because that £80 is going to be eaten up once you decide you want something before the quad cores come.
Good Luck.
I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
I was using an Archos 101 when I heard about the a500. I took the plunge. I preordered it and when it finally arrived almost a month later, I handed the Archos to the wife and never looked back.
Sure, it's an upgrade (a major upgrade) so it integrated into my already acclimated tablet lifestyle.
For the price point, it worked for me and with the TF vs Acer arguments already heated (by the time I got mine) it really was just a question of, you know what? I'm keeping it. I want it, I can definitely use it and I'll keep using until it dies - at which point, I'll get the next 'whatever' version.
Normally I would say go for it, but in this ecosystem its different. You can have all the cores you want, but if there is no underlying OS or apps that utilize them to their full potential, its a waste. In the end you're hoping something awesome comes out that will harness all that power, and eventually something will. Hopefully its sooner rather than later, because you are at the mercy of the manufacturer to continue to support the product. You have the dev community there to, who do great work, but most of them don't have the time to dissassemble/reassemble the code for drivers, so you end up with certain functions not working as they should when you try and load an OS that is not officially supported.
Case in point, the Motorla Atrix, which I drooled over for quite some time, is just now getting Gingerbread. I'm thinking full hardware acceleration for phones won't be in place until Ice Cream, which is fine as long as Moto contintues to support the product. I think Google is trying to clean that up a bit by asking OEMs to make a pledge to support their product for a minimum length of time (18months?). In my opinion, its best to go with something that is very similar to the lead product..in this case, the Xoom. So...anything with a Tegra 250. Unless you are beyond the halfway point between lead device launches, in which case it might be wiser to wait for that device to launch or the specs for it to leak.
goodintentions said:
I'm glad someone picked up on my sarcasm.
My brother in law 2 months ago bought 2 transformers (1 for him and one for his dad). I just told him about the $100 off thing at home depot and he said "so?" To him, there's nothing to regret. He couldn't have known back then. He was ready back then to buy the tablets. He made the decision to buy them and that's final.
As was mentioned, impulse buying isn't a good thing. But if you want to wait for the next latest and greatest, you will always be waiting. Forget quad core. My whole family consist of engineers. I am friends with many people who work in the industry. I have been assured on good authority that if you're willing to wait just a few more years you will be able to buy quantum core computers and tablets. In fact, if you just wait a few more years, you will be able to get tablets with screens made from graphene, the strongest transparent material known to science at this time. It's also the most conductive material, so that computers and tablets will be much much thinner. I'm talking about paper thin.
If you can, you should wait a few more years after that. I'm sure by then someone will have come up with tablets that have neural interface so that you can just think it and the tablet pc will do it without you using on screen keyboard.
You get the point.
If you're ready to get a tablet now, then go for it. It makes sense to wait a month or so if you know for sure what you want will be coming like next month. But waiting on the rumor and the chance that the next latest and greatest will be here in a year... or two years... you can keep waiting if you want. Don't let me stop you. But to me, that's a boring life.
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Besides, this isn't the dark ages where you got a sword and that sword will last you the next 50 years. We now live in a day and age when everything is disposable. Even my house is disposable, meaning I can sell it if I need to. I'm not one of those people that pursue the latest and greatest. One of my computers lasted me for nearly 10 years. It's just nowadays it doesn't make sense to spend the time to wait for a pentium 3 or pentium 4 to perform a certain process on windows xp when I can spend a mere $300 for something that's 100 times faster.
I'm still using dvd's. I absolutely refuse to switch to blueray. I think they are overpriced. The differences just don't bother me, and I have watched them on the latest and greatest tv's nowadays.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. In my younger days I fell into that trap & finally came to my senses.
Why not save the hassle and just sell the gift card?
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Transformer 2 to arrive in October according to Forbes

http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
Yeah I went into the tablet game knowing full well it would be outdated very quickly. I judged my opinion on my purchase solely based on the streamline performance I saw from the models already available at the time, the xoom, and decided it was going to be enough power for me for a while. But deep down inside it does get to you when you see something newer come out a quarter later!
I also heard today that the price of the Asus Transformer is going to drop on the middle of this month, but they didn't give a price. A reaction to Acer Iconia dropping to $398.
I think that the new screens on the next generation of tablets will be really expensive since they will be 2048x1500 or there abouts.
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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I guess I'll wait untill after the quad-core gen, I guess that's gonna be next year...
I wonder what will be next after the quads?
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more silly performances...
There is this assumption that there really isnt any point of quad cores as Apps arent optimised for them yet.
However, honeycomb itself was designed with multicore processors in mind. Single threaded apps can take advantage of multicore processors by running the app on one core, and other OS services on the other cores.
Even the most basic of tasks can benefit like browsing and gaming.The OS itself can benefit from quad core.
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http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/07/29/asus-preparing-second-transformer-tablet/
At first, I was a little mad at this, my Transformer just arrived in the mail today and the first website I went to on my new TF was engadget.com and I saw this headline.
Then, I realized that I probably won't even need a quad core tablet for another couple of years considering that there are only a handful of apps that take advantage of Tegra 2.
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They are just playing the same game as Apple, updating their product on a yearly refresh cycle.
I won't be updating from Transformer to Transformer 2. I'm very happy with my purchase, and nothing will change that. A few years down the road I may repurchase.
I only hope that Asus don't withhold Android ICS from Transformer to give the Transformer 2 a market advantage (it already has one in it's hardware spec).
I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I have spent the last 2 weeks trying to decide what android tablet to purchase. I have narrowed my decision between the TF and the GT10.1. I was gonna make my purchase in a week or so, but now, I dont know?! Maybe I should buy one at BB and get the buy back program for it. Damn....
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I'd rather have a 3.2 update with no bugs, TBH.
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
alan77ss said:
I don't buy this october release date. it makes no sense to put out a new device so early when TF1 sales are rising not falling away. surely asus would want to max out sales of their existing product before launching a successor.
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After October is December and Christmas;P, so this is a very good time for a new flagship product.
oh and one more thing, If Asus doesn't do this, then another company will. Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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Kal-el is ready, so it is, a matter of time.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
Underwater Mike said:
I'll believe it when I see it. I just read a story yesterday (I'll see if I can find the link) saying that the chip will not ship in quantity until 2012.
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Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
UKseagull said:
Please do find it, I'm sat here wanting to order a GTab but am put off by the "Quad Core is almost here" rumours.
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I can tell You that Kal-el is ready but creating a tablet with this processor is another and long story.
Oh and i cant tell Y why i know about Kal-el
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I could easily see them selling both the TF and the TF 2 at the same time, just at a lower pricepoint for the TF and a higher price point for the TF 2. It might be that by the time the TF 2 comes out, component costs will have dropped on the TF and they could price it at, say, $349/$449 retail, and then the TF 2 at $449/$549.
That's just idle speculation, of course, but it makes sense to me, particularly if the specs on the TF 2 are crazy good, which I expect them to be.
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
Digiguest said:
IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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not true ..... if You look into the future, this is the best chocie but it's true that will always be something new and better ... This is the IT world
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IMHO Quad core on a tablet is completely and utterly USELESS. More is not always better.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
Your Android device WILL BE outdated in 3 months, maximum 6 months no matter what you buy.
I am happy as long as I get the Ice Cream Sandwich running smoothly later this year.
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Why? Wouldn't you prefer it if your browser typing had less lag, and the app your were running was not effected by other tasks such as feed updates, etc. More cores impacts both the base OS and apps.
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This is the same thing ppl said when the tegra2 was announced. The fact is that honeycomb itself is not mature yet.
I agree with the post above saying quad core is useless. It is useless for the time being cause, while the hw techs is advancing at great speed, the software is still lagging behind. why have a quad core when clearly we do not have many tablet applications? i am not talking about the recent api changes in 3.2 so that apps can be stretched... i am talking about special apps made for tablet only. why improve the hw when there is still way to improve in the sw?
browser typing is clearly a bug in the codes. we do not need to get 4 cores to get rid of it. browser typing lag is something we shouldnt be experiencing even in a single core. quad cores coming out in october is quite outrageous especially for us ( living in europe) . i for one, paid approx 450 euros 2 weeks ago for the TF only (without the dock).

Galaxy Tab 2????

REALLY??!!! SERIOUSLY????!!! How many tablets does Sammy think they need to through out at the public to get that they aren't going to sell until they lower prices, not specs! End rant.
Lower prices? The 10.1 is $50 cheaper than the iPad and the 8.9 is $100 cheaper...
I think they are currently priced just about right...
Wish they lowered the prices on the older tabs significantly.
Means we can root em and flash our own builds for a reasonable price
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
i agree, i think this is the only problem with android, we are being flooded with devices at them moment, hopefully it will slow down and we can see some more quality devices come out... pricing for samsungs tabs though are great i think, leave the lower market to other companies, I want a powerful device in my hands.
Yeah but they just need to take a break for a moment
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they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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Hold up though... The Galaxy Tab 2 is 7.7", dual core, 1ghz ram etc etc... right?
I bought mine a few weeks ago and did so because I read the new Galaxy Tab would be 7.7". I definitely wanted the 10" form factor. I love my Tab but don't want to be a fool (not that kind anyway)! Now I'm second guessing purchase
yogeshmha said:
they are just making fools of the peoples who took tabs recently ....i got my first tab SGT p1000 first then few months later this 10.1 came up i took that traded for my p1000 now this 7.7 got infrared and can do calls too..god they gonna make me trade my 10.1 too
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This is exactly what I mean! Sammy has now released like 5 new tablets with same basic hardware of their old tablets.. Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already! I like Samsung's hardware the best, but I'm just sick of seeing *New tablets with underwhelming, old hardware in them.. I know that price is def a factor, but manufacturing 20 different tablets is expensive.. if they had 3 form factors/models it would save money for them, and then us!
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Tegra 3 is ready and being used by Asus already!
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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Meh, I like choice. I don't see the point of complaining about it; unless you're an early adopter, you'll always be a step behind. Here' my suggestion for you: stop worrying about having the newest snazziest gear and enjoy what you do have. It's not a race.
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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It's not abt race its just we buy a thing today and tomorrow they come up with the improvised one unfair u know
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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Nvidia's on record saying they've lost Samsung as a customer and now consider them a competitor. So, don't hold your breath for Teg3. Teg3 is actually two old-gen A9 chips glommed together. Samsung's Exynos 5250 is in sampling making it the first A15 chip on the market when it’s supposed to release in Q2. Raw HP isn't the real issue with mobile devices. It's GPU bandwidth. A15 chips will be more powerful than Teg3 and have 5x the graphics b/w. I think a lot of manufacturers are intentionally skipping Teg3 and moving directly to A15 chips (from Samsung, TI, and Qualcomm) which are easier to fabricate and potentially less expensive. The Prime’s having a ton of issues where different devices behave differently when updates are rolled out. It’s too early to say its Teg3 but it’s a potential candidate for the problems.
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BUT there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Nuff said. I agree Samsungs SOC will be better, but will it be too late? Look at Windows Phone 7, its great, but 3-4 years too late..
My main point..
Is Samsung going to seriously produce 20 different models of tablets? I understand it being nice to have 'choices', but Samsung has enough work keeping past models firmware relevant, let alone producing 20 new version/sizes every few months, there is no way they can properly support that many.. I wouldn't think twice is they made actually changes to new models like vastly improved batteries, or more memory etc.
I've been saying for many years that if you buy an electronic device, it will be obsolete BEFORE you make it out of the front door of the store. You might make it back home if you buy the most expensive model of whatever. It's just the way of high tech devices these days. We consumers have only helped them by replacing perfectly functional devices just for the lasted and greatest one. Even if the new one has twice the speed or memory, do you need it?
Probably not. Yet we continue to demand, and purchase, which is just encouragement for them to continue. I honestly think its only gonna get worse. It's really our fault as consumers always wanting more and better; NOW.
When I was growing up electronics were durable goods. You bought a TV and you kept it until it quit working. Now we buy a new one because of widget xyz is better on the new model. I'm guilty of this myself also, just not as much as I used to be. Even though I have more money to spend these days.
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"Unfair" would suggest they owe you some duty of not producing new models. Have you really thought this through? "We buy a thing today, and tomorrow they come up with the improv[ed] one." If this is unfair, how long do they have to wait? Do you realize that they released this tablet in May of 2011, 9 months ago, right? You also realize that the successor does not yet exist, right? This is the same complaint I've heard about technology for the last 20 years. I still don't get it.
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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So you can encourage the manufacturers to do more of what you're b!tching about more? :what:
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yogeshmha said:
It seems u got loads of money in ur bank! If it's overloading send me i will bug new tab every day
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That's ridiculous. If you knew me you'd know what a silly thing to say that is. But beyond that, my statement is exactly the opposite: I'm saying "be happy with what you have, not unhappy about what you don't have." See if you can figure out the difference between gadget lust and gadget envy.
Didn't mean any offense if it was taken that way. Just good natured hard time I was intending.
Sometimes hard to relay sarcasm in a post.
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OP puts Galaxy Tab 2 in the title, then complains about how many tablets are coming out from Samsung? I mean, if you put Galaxy Note 10.1 in the title, that would make some sense, but the Galaxy Tab 2 is apparently the direct successor of the original Galaxy Tab that came out in 2010 and it's not even out yet. Who knows when it comes out.

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