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thunderbolt...

I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.

Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?

Tkun said:
Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Tkun said:
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything

Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...

ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.

deaffob said:
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.

deaffob said:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW

bigtlt said:
I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!

Jrex said:
Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Tkun said:
Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster

Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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TheSonicEmerald said:
I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!

[REQ] wanting to trade my epic 4g for nexus s

Anyone interested
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Wrong section. Doubt anyone would be here if they had a Nexus.

063_XOBX said:
Wrong section. Doubt anyone would be here if they had a Nexus.
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I was about to say the same thing lol.... you'd probably get some hits over at the nexus s forums?
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theduce102 said:
I was about to say the same thing lol.... you'd probably get some hits over at the nexus s forums?
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Considering over half the nexus s 4g owners are epic refugees I wouldn't count on it.
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True but I know a few people that went back to the epic cause they missed the keyboard to much
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theduce102 said:
True but I know a few people that went back to the epic cause they missed the keyboard to much
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Psh I know I would, this thing is amazing
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NEXUS 4G said:
Anyone interested
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Y would u want to go and do a thing like that. Wait for the s2 if u don't want a keyboard. Then u would at least b stepping up.
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NEXUS 4G said:
Anyone interested
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ummmmmm this is an EPIC board for people the like there phones why dont you try the market.
iam not going to waste my 100th post to say this so iam going to add to this as you can read you are in the wrong place try again in the other board

Call Sprint and get your upgrade qualification early (the 1 year upgrade eligibilty). Sell Epic, get a couple of hundred bucks from someone who doesn't want to be on a new contract. Use money from sale and upgrade eligibilty to get a Nexus S 4G. for free or almost free.

Thx for all the responses, but I'm only looking for someone interested in trading
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NEXUS 4G said:
Thx for all the responses, but I'm only looking for someone interested in trading
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notice how no one has replied yet?

I have a Nexus and I'm here. As a NExus owner I can say that it's not all it's cracked up to be. There are some pretty big downsides to the Nexus, especially coming from the Epic. They are as follows:
1) NO CODEC SUPPORT. This is a very big one. It won't even play .wma
2) No zoom or widescreen mode on the camera.
3) NO HD VIDEO RECORDING. This may NEVER get fixed as it's rumored to be hardware limitations.
4) Things like not being able to access notifications while the dialer is open are annoying.
Now the positives:
1) It's AWESOME.
2) There is a good chance most of the downsides will be fixed.
3) The curved screen is really nice
4) the build quality, I feel is better then the Epic.
5) Everything just works
Before you make the switch just make sure you know what you are getting into and be willing to wait for things to get addressed. Dreams has been VERY busy porting the crap out of stuff like the toggles in the notification menu. Follow his progress he's doing awesome stuff.

NEXUS 4G said:
Thx for all the responses, but I'm only looking for someone interested in trading
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I'll trade you for my Epic. Its just like the Nexus S but has a keyboard and Gorilla glass. Plus I can control the brightness by sliding my finger along the status bar among other things.

1) NO CODEC SUPPORT. This is a very big one. It won't even play .wma
4) Things like not being able to access notifications while the dialer is open are annoying.
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While they're not big deal-breakers, this makes me very sad.
But wait..can it at least play mp3?

stir fry a lot said:
I'll trade you for my Epic. Its just like the Nexus S but has a keyboard and Gorilla glass. Plus I can control the brightness by sliding my finger along the status bar among other things.
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I have an Epic, looking for nexus
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Epic Touch

What do you guys think of this phone?
http://www.blogbyts.com/2011/08/press-photos-of-samsung-epic-4g-touch-leak/

Cant WAITTT for this beast! Im glad they kept it so thin. Cant wait to get its ACTUAL specs though

A little late buddy , its going to be a powerhouse of a phone. We've been drooling over it for months now. I want it NAO!

So att is stuck with the keyboard this time, bummer.
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Jfree3000 said:
So att is stuck with the keyboard this time, bummer.
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The keyboard one is a different model, not the GS2.
I really am not liking the name "Epic Touch". I think it needs to be its own device
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I don't like how Samsung swaps the home and menu button location. It's little things like that that i like about HTC phones.

Braneless said:
I don't like how Samsung swaps the home and menu button location. It's little things like that that i like about HTC phones.
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Majority of people don't have huge hands, Samsung moved it there because the third button is easiest to hit. On the evo the home is a slight stretch. IMO Sammy got it right.
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lithid-cm said:
Majority of people don't have huge hands, Samsung moved it there because the third button is easiest to hit. On the evo the home is a slight stretch. IMO Sammy got it right.
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Leave the Samsungs for the carnies.... small hands... very creepy (or whatever Austin Powers said lol).

lithid-cm said:
Majority of people don't have huge hands, Samsung moved it there because the third button is easiest to hit. On the evo the home is a slight stretch. IMO Sammy got it right.
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Not if your left handed

borrowedchief said:
Not if your left handed
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Majority are righty. Either way home is in the middle two. Which makes it easier for lefties too.
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I don't mind either layout.
But I am extremely annoyed that there is more than one layouts. Google should force the manufacturers to standardize it so its the same on all android devices. I switch between 3 android devices frequently and its annoying as hell.
One of my devices is a dell streak, which doesn't even use the right amount of buttons, the right icons, or the correct placement of any of the buttons. Going from a HTC phone to a Moto Phone to a Dell Steak makes me press the wrong buttons quite a bit.

I've been waiting for this thing for a long time. it looks so sexy.
i want it so bad, but i just found out about the nexus prime coming out soon so i'm torn.
i don't now which one to get. :/

MultiDev said:
I don't mind either layout.
But I am extremely annoyed that there is more than one layouts. Google should force the manufacturers to standardize it so its the same on all android devices. I switch between 3 android devices frequently and its annoying as hell.
One of my devices is a dell streak, which doesn't even use the right amount of buttons, the right icons, or the correct placement of any of the buttons. Going from a HTC phone to a Moto Phone to a Dell Steak makes me press the wrong buttons quite a bit.
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I personally wouldn't like it if all the phones had the same layout, it gives each manufacturer their own. While I totally agree it would be annoying with three of the devices, I don't think majority of us have that issue persay.
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SpaceMonky said:
I've been waiting for this thing for a long time. it looks so sexy.
i want it so bad, but i just found out about the nexus prime coming out soon so i'm torn.
i don't now which one to get. :/
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Yea, but isn't the prime going to be a Verizon only phone?
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The phone is too late. By October the Nexus Prime will be out.
By the way considering that VZW has no Nexus I wouldn't go as far andbsay it'll be exclusive to them.
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gqstatus0685 said:
The phone is too late. By October the Nexus Prime will be out.
By the way considering that VZW has no Nexus I wouldn't go as far andbsay it'll be exclusive to them.
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Each carrier has had exclusive devices. Sprint didn't have one until Nexus S 4G. For some reason, I think they will.
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MultiDev said:
I don't mind either layout.
But I am extremely annoyed that there is more than one layouts. Google should force the manufacturers to standardize it so its the same on all android devices. I switch between 3 android devices frequently and its annoying as hell.
One of my devices is a dell streak, which doesn't even use the right amount of buttons, the right icons, or the correct placement of any of the buttons. Going from a HTC phone to a Moto Phone to a Dell Steak makes me press the wrong buttons quite a bit.
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with what power do you think google can possibly use to force HARDWARE manufacturers to change the layout of HARDWARE buttons????

That is a sweet looking phone. Let's hope it get's more Dev support than it's predecessor, because I know one thing; TouchWiz has to go, immediately.
Actually, it's pretty sad that the 1st Epic was such a let-down

HipKat said:
That is a sweet looking phone. Let's hope it get's more Dev support than it's predecessor, because I know one thing; TouchWiz has to go, immediately.
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I agree about the concern regarding the lack of developer support. We know the tremendous level of support the Evo 3d is receiving. Based on track record, the 3d will be running 25 different versions of custom Roms based off Ice Cream Sandwich before the Epic Touch gets it's first.
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taadow1030 said:
I agree about the concern regarding the lack of developer support. We know the tremendous level of support the Evo 3d is receiving. Based on track record, the 3d will be running 25 different versions of custom Roms based off Ice Cream Sandwich before the Epic Touch gets it's first.
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With respect. HTC phones are much easier to modify then the Samsung phones.
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Is this it?

Is the epic 4g going be the last smartphone with a full keyboard? I was kinda excited about the new epic 4g touch but without a keyboard I can't see myself getting it. A touch screen keyboard can never fully replace a real keyboard. I'm really hoping we a epic 4g 2 or a epic 3d.
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I'm sure some manufacturer will make another keyboard phone. That's the beauty of Android, you can have different phone choices to satisfy a market niche.
Other than that, there's always Blackberry.

Nvm /10char

masaidjet said:
I wouldn't say it would be the last keyboard smartphone, Sprint has the Photon which has a keyboard,so if people wanted a newer keyboard smartphone they could get that.
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The photon? This is the first I've heard of this phone. Who makes it and what are the specs?
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It's made by Motorola and here are some specs for it.
http://m.cnet.com/CReviews_Review.r...a-photon-4g-sprint/4505-6452_7-34830808.html?
Edit: some pics too
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Review_id2797
My fault, there's no slide-out keyboard

Ok, unless i'm mistaken (and please prove me wrong) the Photon does NOT have a slide out keyboard like the Epic. The only keyboard the Photon has is the webtop dock, something very few people would take advantage of...

pvtjoker42 said:
Ok, unless i'm mistaken (and please prove me wrong) the Photon does NOT have a slide out keyboard like the Epic. The only keyboard the Photon has is the webtop dock, something very few people would take advantage of...
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Oops you're right I was thinking about another phone when the Photon came to mind

pvtjoker42 said:
Ok, unless i'm mistaken (and please prove me wrong) the Photon does NOT have a slide out keyboard like the Epic. The only keyboard the Photon has is the webtop dock, something very few people would take advantage of...
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It don't have a slide out keyboard just seen a few reviews on youtube. I guess the epic is the last slide out keyboard phone. Well I guess no upgrade for me
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Oops you're right I was thinking about another phone when the Photon came to mind
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What phone was you thinking of?
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lol how can you assume it will be the last slide-out android phone?? they're still making them for other carriers, just not Sprint. But not much has come out yet for Sprint since the Epic, except for the Evo 3d. But I know they are coming out with the Droid 3 on Verizon, which has a slide-out. Don't give up hope. The true Epic upgrade will arrive someday. Let's hope with at least a 1.5Ghz processor and a LOT more internal memory and RAM.
EDIT: LG Optimus SLider is coming out this month for Sprint. SPH-M930 (slider) coming out in October.

Yea' I was thinking about the droid 3 then the photon commercial came on.

They cycle the releases of phones with kb and no kb to maximize sales. So don't worry in a few months there will be another samsung phone with a kb. I'm the same way I will not get a phone without a kb again

Rumor has it that an Epic 2 is coming out
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I sure hope they continue the epic line with keyboards....the new one coming has no keyboard...but its called epic touch, so maybe they will go with a keyboard on the actual epic 2
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Yup, I like my phones with spring slide out kb. I dont ever use it but I love mocking the isheeps with its slide out noise. Ohhh yes.
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Same here... a smartphone without a keyboard is like a smartphone with only a 2g radio. Oh wait...apple already did that in 2007

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They cycle the releases of phones with kb and no kb to maximize sales. So don't worry in a few months there will be another samsung phone with a kb. I'm the same way I will not get a phone without a kb again
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Never again. This phone was the reason I traded my evo last year
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I hope they come out with a new phone with a hardware keyboard before my next upgrade (march 2012).... I'll be waiting, epic in hand...
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blackdragon79 said:
Never again. This phone was the reason I traded my evo last year
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Night and day between htc devices vs. samsung devices huh? Chrome dont peel on samsung. Screen actually last a full year without some weird shat like ghostly white dots with baby half bread cousin. Or just having the lcs crap out on the 31st day of purchase only to gave the CS repair boon give you a refurbished replacement. Or have a gpu with a hyper fance code,name that actually is the opposite of its true nature. (snapdragon = snapsnail). Yeah. Htc... Good job yu POS!
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Night and day between htc devices vs. samsung devices huh? Chrome dont peel on samsung. Screen actually last a full year without some weird shat like ghostly white dots with baby half bread cousin. Or just having the lcs crap out on the 31st day of purchase only to gave the CS repair boon give you a refurbished replacement. Or have a gpu with a hyper fance code,name that actually is the opposite of its true nature. (snapdragon = snapsnail). Yeah. Htc... Good job yu POS!
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Care to explain what you are trolling about? I love my epic
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Samsung Galaxy S III

I see alot of people getting this, getting excited over it. I'm confused....why?
I like the dual core 1.5Ghz processor....but it doesn't have a physical keyboard.....which is my own personal preference.....but anyway.....whats so special about it???

It is shiny
It is thin
It is new
It is fast
It has a ton of ram
It is really freaking fast
It doesn't have a physical keyboard (I hate the KB)
It has lte
It uses the latest arm processor technology
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You hate the onscreen kb or the physical epic one?
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a2tz said:
You hate the onscreen kb or the physical epic one?
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The physical one
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
The physical one
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I only use it for PSX :/

darkierawr said:
I only use it for PSX :/
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That's what sixaxis control app is for...play with your ps3 controller wirelessly
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xfilemanx said:
I see alot of people getting this, getting excited over it. I'm confused....why?
I like the dual core 1.5Ghz processor....but it doesn't have a physical keyboard.....which is my own personal preference.....but anyway.....whats so special about it???
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My wife had an upgrade and I didn't so she got it but I have been playing with it a ton. I echo what else has been said. It doesn't have a physical keyboard. The less moving parts the better. The screen is beautiful. It is damn fast. I cant get the SOB to lag. Honestly I thought my Epic was doing really well until it went up against that beast and its 2 gigs of ram. I am still happy with the Epic but do wish and always have that we had the regular Galaxy S. Physical keyboards are just outdated with all the amazing virtual ones in the Play store. The biggest thing thought is its speed.

IB4TL
Where you at kenny?
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
It is shiny
It is thin
It is new
It is fast
It has a ton of ram
It is really freaking fast
It doesn't have a physical keyboard (I hate the KB)
It has lte
It uses the latest arm processor technology
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I hate to be THAT guy, but it doesn't REALLY use the latest ARM architecture; it's qualcomm proprietary, and it's designed to be similar to ARM A15, but not actually based off of it.
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xfilemanx said:
but it doesn't have a physical keyboard.....
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That's its best feature. The epic felt rickety in my hand after like the first month. Yuck.
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