Is it just me or does Gingerbread on the phone seem faster and smoother than Honeycomb on tablet with exact same specs?? When my Atrix only had Froyo, I always noticed it performed the same as my Xoom and apps were either fast or slow the same exact way. However, now that I'v gotten Gingerbread on my Atrix, I've noticed apps are much, much smoother...iOS smooth (hate to use that as reference, but...). Take for example the Dish Network app, scrolling through the guide was (on Atrix-Froyo and Xoom ) horrible, but now with Gingerbread on the Atrix, the guide scrolls like butter.
Thoughts???
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Is it just me or does Gingerbread on the phone seem faster and smoother than Honeycomb on tablet with exact same specs?? When my Atrix only had Froyo, I always noticed it performed the same as my Xoom and apps were either fast or slow the same exact way. However, now that I'v gotten Gingerbread on my Atrix, I've noticed apps are much, much smoother...iOS smooth (hate to use that as reference, but...). Take for example the Dish Network app, scrolling through the guide was (on Atrix-Froyo and Xoom ) horrible, but now with Gingerbread on the Atrix, the guide scrolls like butter.
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Hmm... well, the Atrix has very similar hardware to the Xoom.
Gingerbread is a phone OS. It is lighter weight than Honeycomb.
Xoom has a screen that has just short of double the number of pixels that the Atrix's has.
If you're upset with the Xoom's performance, download Tiamat Kernel with overclocked GPU and jump the processor up past 1.5 GHz. The thing screams.
EDIT) I'm from DC too.
Apps are mostly made for the phones.
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Hmm... well, the Atrix has very similar hardware to the Xoom.
Xoom has a screen that has just short of double the number of pixels that the Atrix's has.
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I was just about to point this out, although I honestly have no idea how much that affects the GPU/performance in terms of "2x laggier" or however you want to describe it, but actually be twice as laggy in numbers and not just "what it feels like."
I wish someone would find out how the Xoom would benchmark if it had lower resolution, just out of curiosity.
Mainly because Honeycomb is still a work in development, an ongoing project. The Android phone OS has had a few years now to get everything worked out, figured out, and made to run smoothly. The Honeycomb tablet OS on the other hand has had only a few months now of ongoing development. It's progressing and in due time will turn out how the Android phone OS did, amazingly solid! Do you think that when they released Android for the very first time a few years ago that it was perfect with no lag issues? No. Same goes with Honeycomb as it is their first major release for the Android tablet world.
Our next major release will be Ice Cream Sandwich, which should be a game changer for everything we know about the Android OS. So expect performance boosts with the next big release along with a whole slew of new goodies.
I expect ICS to be like when you are coming from 2.0 Eclair then updating to the latest 2.3 Gingerbread in terms of speed, stability, and features. That's a major jump in the update department! That's how I feel ICS will be when it launches. I feel that any lag issues experienced by the users will be worked out by then, giving us a super silky smooth OS that runs on both phone and tablet alike! That's what we wanted all along, right?
well I don't know how many people here have tried it but ADW Launcher makes the Xoom fly...until the lagginess goes away I'm sticking with that launcher...try it!!
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well I don't know how many people here have tried it but ADW Launcher makes the Xoom fly...until the lagginess goes away I'm sticking with that launcher...try it!!
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Agreed! Been using Adw Launcher EX myself since day one on my Xoom. It hasn't had anymore Honeycomb specific updates in months, but it's still a rock solid launcher to use as a replacement to the stock one. I choose Adw over the Honeycomb launcher any day.
Main difference will be screen res, Atrix is pushing 384000 pixels while the xoom pushes 926720 pixels (rough amount) so its like having 2.5 atrix screens put together, for me that explains all
I work with 3ds Max and 2 monitors, when I had only one screen 3ds max moved smooth as butter, but since I dropped a second screen 3ds max is not the same and I bet it crashes more often. I think there is a similar situation on these devices. Someone needs to port gingerbread to the xoom and see how it performs against the atrix.
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Over the past few weeks I have installed the GB leaks as they were released. It's been a good learning experience for me as I don't have a background in mobile OS's or applications. But to be honest, I feel Froyo is just fine for me.
Using Froyo I'm able to watch Hulu with the hex fixed libflashplayer.so, I'm able to use wireless tethering and PDAnet, Netflix works and beyond that--my observed battery life seems to be higher with Froyo. ...and you know what else? My phone never seemed any faster using Gingerbread.
While I'm not "done" messing around with my phone (SBF'ing is easy enough), I do think that overall, Froyo is just fine for me. Does anyone else agree, or have objections they'd like to offer?
I agree that Froyo is fine, far better than 2.1. I also think that 2.3 is smoother than Froyo, I don't know how else to say it...it may be just playing with system variables, but it feels faster.
I did not do any bench testing, my average Linpack scores are slightly higher, but not enough to matter.
If I was stuck on Froyo, it would be fine, it really is a major step above 2.1.
My battery is about the same, I can't see much difference between Froyo and GB, i still have to charge at least twice a day.
I have 2 x's. One active, one wireless. Both were on froyo. Loaded tbh 2 part yesterday on wireless one. Never had a custom rom. Both rooted. Netflix works fine on both. While I see some improvement on side by side benchmarks (quandrant, linpack, and nenamark 1), it's not exactly what I was expecting. Most posts I've read make it sound like froyo sucks compared to gb. IMO, with my 2 phones, there is just not that big of a difference. Both are oc'd. I get about the same battery life (24 hours) between charges. Now my buddy has the original droid, and THAT is a painful experience. His is totally stock. Won't do anything to it.
I think the biggest difference I notice between my 2 phones is boot up time and powering off (substantially faster on gb). So for me, at least for now, will leave active on froyo and wireless on tbh odexed 596.
We have a couple of DX at the office. A few have the new GB and mine is still Froyo. Have not seen a huge difference running business apps. Touchdown (which we use allot) seems smoother. But the other fluff stuff is about the same.
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Overall gingerbread is just refinement over froyo. Its more efficient, smoother, faster, and is the future. As more phones get gingerbread, officially or not, there will be more dev work done to bring back the cool tricks. Already there really isn't a shortfall in that category. All future customizations will be for gingerbread, not froyo. The stock gingerbread release will be at least as good as the froyo release, but will be (I can confirm IS) better than froyo. They won't make a product worse with an update like this. (Btw, teathering still works, you just have to take an extra step.)
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Gingerbread just runs that much smoother. It's not quite the step from 2.1 to 2.2, but it's definitely very noticeable. Multitasking seemed far improved.
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Over the past few weeks I have installed the GB leaks as they were released. It's been a good learning experience for me as I don't have a background in mobile OS's or applications. But to be honest, I feel Froyo is just fine for me.
Using Froyo I'm able to watch Hulu with the hex fixed libflashplayer.so, I'm able to use wireless tethering and PDAnet, Netflix works and beyond that--my observed battery life seems to be higher with Froyo. ...and you know what else? My phone never seemed any faster using Gingerbread.
While I'm not "done" messing around with my phone (SBF'ing is easy enough), I do think that overall, Froyo is just fine for me. Does anyone else agree, or have objections they'd like to offer?
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I am with you. To me it seems like GB is a lot of "Fluff". It almost seems as though Verizon just wanted to push out Gingerbread to be able to minimize damage with regards to "Tethering".
so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
So on a stock rom it feels like... a stock rom? Give it time. As honeycomb matures and more custom roms with optimizations come out it will definitely get better. The one complaint I have right now is choppy flash video which apparently does not affect other devices (even with equal hardware).
Basically, Asus needs to implement some fixes (like Flash) then get the source code into the hands of devs around here and we will be sorted. Honestly though, it's really not bad as it is. I'm loving it!
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Any known issues?
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Yes there are several if you read here and elsewhere, but nothing like you're describing AFAIK.
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so I purchased the transformer after rave reviews online. Unfortunately I'm finding an incredibly sluggish experience akin to my nexus 1 on stock 2.1. I'm at 3.1 and the latest firmware and the thing is almost unusable even after a fresh reboot. The launcher is sluggish and all tasks are jerky and delayed. Anyone have any tips to optimizing. The performance? I thought about an although launcher but that seems. Like it SHOULD be unnecessary on hardware like this....
My nexus on cm7 with go launcher is smooth as butter... any ideas? Any known issues?
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To me the default launcher on Asus is very sluggish even when 3.1 came out. I recommend get ADW Launcher Pro. Been using it from day one. Its also sluggish with the Samsung 10.1
I got mine yesterday, TBH I'm also little disappointed with the overall performance given its’ hardware spec. But its NOT extremely laggy a you describe. Early builds of most Android ROMs are like this. I experienced similar issues with my Galaxy S when I first got it, but with time things improved a lot. So I am anxiously waiting for Asus to come up with better ROMs (fixing Flash performance and overall laggyness of the browser and launcher).
@OP, there are plenty of youtube videos showing general performance; go through them and see if you experience anything out of the ordinary.
I haven't noticed the sluggishness myself. There have been a couple hiccups during periods of high load, thats about it.
I did turn Animations to "Some" though...
No slugishness for me. Even before 3.1 I didn't notice any. The animations could be set to be faster sometimes but thats about it. No jerkiness for sure.
++ there's something wrong with your Transformer.
I wouldn't describe the launcher as 'super smooth' but it's not 'almost unusable' by any stretch.
I have an HTC Incredible (almost identical hardware to the Nexus One) running CyanogenMod 7.03 (Android 2.3) and the Transformer is faster without a doubt.
The first thing you should try is a factory reset.
This is what changes I have noticed when going from 3.2.x to 4.0.3 on the TF201, and I will be curious to see what is ROM/Hardware dependent versus the TF101 running 4.0.3+.
ICS is different than HC or GB, trust me once you get used to it, you will not want to go back. The new settings menu takes getting used to and swipping away stuff is AWESOME.
Holy $#@! that's fast! I've always found HC on the OG Transformer to be pretty smooth and more consisently so than Windows machines I've used, same on the TF201 out of the box and I was not impressed with the Tegra 3. Once I updated my Prime to ICS last night, I had to give buttery smooth a new meaning. I don't know how much of this will roll back to the TF101s ROM but it was noticable to me on the TF201 Prime. Assumably it is either changes to hardware acelleration (n.b. Tegra 3 > Tegra 2), or ASUS optimized the holy frakking hell out of it compared to their HC; if they take/have taken the time for our TF101s, it can only be goodness....
Stock browser seems improved enough to deserve revisiting (I didn't test it on the Prime before the ICS update) but doubt it is worth switching back to.
Issues like widgets and such I can't say, because I didn't check before updating my TF201 ICS. Built in apps, I don't know if we will get a back port because I didn't notice any difference pre/post ICS, so I guess it's a good thing someone here did. The Prime's version of the File Manager app, doesn't suck like ours does!
And have I ever mentioned, Tapatalk needs better support for rendering BBCode?
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As far as smoothness on ics. My mytouch 4g, with its single core qualcom, is running alot better on a beta ics build with limited hw acceleration so I can imagine that ics will be a huge dose of smooth on the tf101.
ICS is definitely a huge evolution over HC or GB. I've been enjoying it on my Galaxy Nexus for about a month now. Massive improvements in the feel of the OS (swiping, folders, etc.) and I'm very pleased with the stock browser. The recent programs feature is fantastic. Especially if you do a lot of switching between apps, or in and out of the settings page and you want to resume exactly where you left off. I look forward to comparing the feel of a phone version to that of the tablet version on my TF101, hopefully soon!
Its also buttery smooth on the nexus s with its now feeble single core.
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Same as above, a i have the Incredible 2 running a beta version of ICS.
I literally can't go back to CM7 or any sense rom because the speed difference is massive, i feel like i've just downgraded phones if i flash back. So i just keep going without a camera because i can't stand the sluggishness of GB.
So i'm guessing we will see some pretty big speed enhancements, especially after they get kernels going. I can't wait, i'm one of those guys that prefers as much speed as possible i just never need to save much batter.
I guess than once we get ICS next month, we will see how well the Tegra 2 GPU stacks up against old Adreni 200 series lol.
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Well it might help with the prime that they uped the clock speed it from like 1.3 to 1.6 ghz
based on my experience in galaxy s with beta ics and not even a leaked official,the ics is just AWESOME.
so fast and smooth and yes,browser works perfectly.
i guess its the time where android reached a mature state.
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Based on what I saw on the beta in the dev forum. I would say things are looking very good. It was noticable snappy from what i sampled. I liked it soo much i would have stayed on it if it wert for the sleep of death issue i was having. It was a fun experiment.
Its very nice for what it is.
It had that same kinda spark as my galaxy nexus on VZW does ....would love to see some p3droid roms for the transformers.
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Well it might help with the prime that they uped the clock speed it from like 1.3 to 1.6 ghz
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Most likely they will overclock the kernal like thy did on the prime. Hopefully (wish) the stock kernal will come with overclocked ram, GPU, and CPU. And undervolting.
Yea, ICS will run heavy on any Adreno 200. I have an old Droid Incredible running an ICS ROM and it is noticably laggy during screen transitions. I have a friend however that runs an ICS ROM on his DROID X and it runs smooth as butter.
/shrug
what does every think of the departure of the Context Menu button, and the impact it will have on quick access to options?
I saw this on the Galaxy Nexus, i believe it's common to ICS
Honeycomb never really had the Menu button, so it's not a big loss on the tablet front.
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From what I've seen ICS is much the same as HC as far as button usage.
It has the same 3 buttons with the context button apearing like the three dots on the galaxy nexus when needed. Also has the bar at the top (dont remember what the official name is) with other context related stuff.
Please tell me if im wrong as I am yet to try an alpha port.
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I've been testing Hashcodes CM9 for the Droid 3 and even in it's less than fully functional state, it is so much faster than gingerbread. I can't use it as my primary ROM yet because of the "less than fully functional" bits being so necessary, but it is blazing. hash, please hurry up (tapsvein)
Well,as expected,since i already had ICS on my phone for like 2 months, the ASUS ICE CREAM is a dream come true.(i am not gonna comment about whining noobs who dont even know how to install a clean system).
Now i see the light,i see why the tablets are the future, i feel the smoothness of instant typing in all kind of web pages,the stability of the system (i get a 2600 quadrant score with stock rooted rom but after i have manually removed lots of useless asus bloatware in system, and optimised the kernel and system with rom toolbox).
My thoughts are,what about honeycomb?
I bought the tablet so as to replace my netbook and laptop and profit from all the benefits of android system in a powerfull system.I was not that stupid to think that a tablet is a netbook but....honeycomb made my tablet go on the shelf for like 2 months.
I refused to keep using a device that was not working the way it was advertised.
I tried everything with the abysmal honeycomb. Stock,all the custom roms,all the kernels,all the tips,you name it.
In every 10-20 minutes i aways had one problem.A force close of the browser,white blocks (bbrrrrrr), slow system out of nowhere etc...
So,why they even released a bad written software? Just to keep on with the apple fan boys?
As a consumer,how can we be protected again in future attempts of delivering a malfunctioning product?
Could you even go a legal road?
They say that the all mighty ICS is not absorbed in every device and that google will try to get jelly bean sooner.
What if jelly bean is a new Honeycomb?
Do we have a formal voice and maybe a refund or anything against those kind of politics or we have only the great xda to whine about in a forum post...?
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completly new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completly new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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You are semi-correct. On the tablet HC to ICS isn't that big of a jump, but Gb to ICS on the phone end is a huge jump.
This is going to be more of a one OS for all devices, starting with ICS. Instead of having 2.1 compatible but not 3.2 compatible, everything will be compatible, we'll just see Phone, Tablet or TV variants of the same app. Like IMDb, it looks different on my HTC Glacier, than it does on my TF101, than on my Logitech Revue.
ICS is just a stepping stone, nothing more, nothing less.
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You are semi-correct. On the tablet HC to ICS isn't that big of a jump, but Gb to ICS on the phone end is a huge jump.
This is going to be more of a one OS for all devices, starting with ICS. Instead of having 2.1 compatible but not 3.2 compatible, everything will be compatible, we'll just see Phone, Tablet or TV variants of the same app. Like IMDb, it looks different on my HTC Glacier, than it does on my TF101, than on my Logitech Revue.
ICS is just a stepping stone, nothing more, nothing less.
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I think you'll see jelly bean before you get consistency. I could be wrong and hope I am.
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I think you'll see jelly bean before you get consistency. I could be wrong and hope I am.
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I've seen a lot of reports that are saying its ICS, they could be wrong/I could be wrong, But i will say this. When i'm running ICS on my Glacier, Apps [in the market] that show up that didn't before. more specifically, tablet apps show up.
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Me, unlike you, have returned to HC. ICS is buggy and tons of apps forclose or simply are not even supported yet.
The dev support is just starting, Kernel has not been released, so no OC or UV yet.
In 2 months or less this will change. But until then HC is the better choice.
I think you'll end up putting your device on the shelf again. ICS is a bit smoother but the things it does are the exact same. It is not a miracle upgrade. It is not completely new. It is not bringing you some new exp. that you couldn't have gotten on HC.
/shrug
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I have -bought- over 500 apps and counting.I have installed all of them,not counting the free apps i use from amazon appstore and only one stupid quotes app and 2-3 g5 entertainment games are not compatible.
How you have problems with ICS is still a mystery to me,since im stating facts.
Imagine the kernel source out and a month to devs,what our eyes have to see.
The ICS is so good that i dont miss custom roms at all and that says something.
The return to the laggy HC with the practically unusable dock keyboard which you wrote one word and the second letter was first and the first letter was second,is even a greater mystery to me.
I hope that google learned from the mistakes of the past and i hope i will never see a honeycomb software again.
Corporations should learn to respect costumers and not doing a 100m race.
ICS is a very good start...
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I have -bought- over 500 apps and counting.I have installed all of them,not counting the free apps i use from amazon appstore and only one stupid quotes app and 2-3 g5 entertainment games are not compatible.
How you have problems with ICS is still a mystery to me,since im stating facts.
Imagine the kernel source out and a month to devs,what our eyes have to see.
The ICS is so good that i dont miss custom roms at all and that says something.
The return to the laggy HC with the practically unusable dock keyboard which you wrote one word and the second letter was first and the first letter was second,is even a greater mystery to me.
I hope that google learned from the mistakes of the past and i hope i will never see a honeycomb software again.
Corporations should learn to respect costumers and not doing a 100m race.
ICS is a very good start...
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GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
I tried the ICS build from Asus but it seems half-baked to me. The Quick Settings look terrible too. I ended up going back to Prime! 2.1.1 because it just seems more polished to me, and the performance and functionality isn't that different.
Once Roach finishes up his ICS ROM, I imagine thats what I'll be using. His stuff just seems so much more finished feeling.
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GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
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This is a tablet made for doing a variety of things. not just playing games.
And have you ever thought that your issue lays with the developers for not supporting ICS. Google pushes a source code, Manufacturers and 3rd party developers create Operating Systems for us to enjoy. It's the app creators to make sure their apps run with the newest OS.
All of the apps that i use on my Tablet, work perfectly on ICS. I have no reason to resort back to Hc.
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This is a tablet made for doing a variety of things. not just playing games.
And have you ever thought that your issue lays with the developers for not supporting ICS. Google pushes a source code, Manufacturers and 3rd party developers create Operating Systems for us to enjoy. It's the app creators to make sure their apps run with the newest OS.
All of the apps that i use on my Tablet, work perfectly on ICS. I have no reason to resort back to Hc.
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It says in^ its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I dont call it resorting. i call it getting full functionality. I prefer everything working, I prefer running at 1.5ghz, and I prefer Undervolting. Battery = forever lasting....
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It says in^ its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I dont call it resorting. i call it getting full functionality. I prefer everything working, I prefer running at 1.5ghz, and I prefer Undervolting. Battery = forever lasting....
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To each his own, i like living on the EDGE. Not that i need to, but i like being at the forefront.
tweaked said:
GTA 3 sometimes loads. Sometimes does not.
Peggle loads and dies.
New Game on Nvidia meltdown to mars - Loads and is buggy.
Need for Speed - Any of them. Won't load. Die
I could continue..
All the above running perfectly on HC.
Your 500 apps must be useless ones. At least to me.
ICS will be fine in a month or so. Its not ICS that is the issue. it is the Apps.
I personally do not have "issues" with HC. It runs smoothly. No reason to update until I can OC, UV, and play the games I like...
But hey, Thats just me. No reason you can't love ICS.
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GTA runs perfectly and no issues. Meltdown i have downloaded this afternoon and have not used it yet(quite a gamer you are).
But lets forget games and stuff,what do you thing of the internet experience? what do you think about browsing? Is it better worse or the same as HC?
And what about office apps? Are they snappier and faster than HC or the same? or worse?.....
Can you write a big text comfortably in a web page in ICS or do you finger cross not to have force closes and white blocks and lose 40 minutes of your life cause there is no lazarus add on?
Do you feel comfotable to work office in HC or ICS?
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For me browsing on ICS is so good, I almost stopped browsing on my computer.
I'm one of the folks that apparently has fully functioning ICS. I have no complaints. But by the above post, there was no way ICS was every going to remotely live up to your expectations. I like OC my tablet as well, but I never had the expectation that Asus would deliver me a stock rom that would do so. I mean do disrespect or criticism to anyone not happy with ICS. But let's just face it, this update had big expectations and hype and could have done everything perfectly and people would still not like it. Nothing that has a certain level of hype or expectation ever lives up to it, be it a tablet OS or anything else. That said ICS is great for me, I have no complaints thus far, and hope that others with problems get them solved, so that they can enjoy their tablet as much as me.
Ill1 I'm with you. Maybe I'm just lucky or we with great working ICS did something different or better, but everything is just peachy on my end.
I have one little bug with the camera, if you have a pin or pattern lock screen setup then switching from camera to panoramic doesn't initiate the camera and eventually fc's.
But my GTA 3 works so do all my other apps. Things are generally smoother and faster.
Next stop is trying to root this thing using Ubuntu so I can be ready to put CM9 on it whenever it comes out
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a.mcdear said:
I tried the ICS build from Asus but it seems half-baked to me. The Quick Settings look terrible too. I ended up going back to Prime! 2.1.1 because it just seems more polished to me, and the performance and functionality isn't that different.
Once Roach finishes up his ICS ROM, I imagine thats what I'll be using. His stuff just seems so much more finished feeling.
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You can turn off the ugly Asus menu in the settings, under Asus customized setting.
ICS for me has been flawless, I dont know what some of you did to screw it up so bad. If you updated without wiping then dont complain about bugginess, do it the right way and then see ifyou have issues.
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GTA runs perfectly and no issues. Meltdown i have downloaded this afternoon and have not used it yet(quite a gamer you are).
But lets forget games and stuff,what do you thing of the internet experience? what do you think about browsing? Is it better worse or the same as HC?
And what about office apps? Are they snappier and faster than HC or the same? or worse?.....
Can you write a big text comfortably in a web page in ICS or do you finger cross not to have force closes and white blocks and lose 40 minutes of your life cause there is no lazarus add on?
Do you feel comfotable to work office in HC or ICS?
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I love ICS. But I need to be able to fiddle with settings and stuff. Its an addiction. Once a kernal is available I'll jump for good. And I also have a back up of the ICS with all my installs and a copy of the kernel so I can jump back and forth. I love Chrome.
I use a third party keyboard I don't have typing issues. I just saying, HC isn't terrible. Infact I would say its a bit more stable as of right now. /shrug
tweaked said:
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love ICS. But I need to be able to fiddle with settings and stuff. Its an addiction. Once a kernal is available I'll jump for good. And I also have a back up of the ICS with all my installs and a copy of the kernel so I can jump back and forth. I love Chrome.
I use a third party keyboard I don't have typing issues. I just saying, HC isn't terrible. Infact I would say its a bit more stable as of right now. /shrug
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i wait a custom kernel (blades hopefully) too, anxiously....
cant imagine the experience with a moddest overclock and some kernel goodies as add ons...
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I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
The two Rom's I like right now on mine are either the Galaxy Task or Clean Rom.
You could also try AOKP, that seemed to do pretty well on mine too.
Tegra 2 (or Tegra in general) just blows. At least for a device this size.
Have you tried using different keyboards? If not, it might be an idea to download and experiment with some to find if any resolve the lag issue. Just an idea.
sn0warmy said:
I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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While tegra 2 isn't great, it shouldn't have problems with ICS. Even on a mostly stock honeycomb build, my tab is running pretty smoothly without overclocking. Except for the rare scrolling hiccup. Most likely the build isn't optimized well enough, and CM9 nightlies are still alpha builds at best. I would suggest either flashing a more stable debloated honeycomb build or waiting for at least an RC version of CM9.
I feel the same way, it's so slow its going backwards. I have almost stopped using it all together because it's a pain to use xd
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I have ICS AOKP installed on my GT-p7510 and I gotta say, it's pretty fast. Except from not having a working camera driver, there's nothing to complain about.
sn0warmy said:
I have to say, I am not impressed with this thing. Right out of the box I noticed that it was MUCH laggier than my Galaxy Nexus.
I figured it was just the bloated Samsung skin that caused it so I instantly rooted it and installed CM9 4.0.4. However, that doesn't seem to have helped much.
I've found that even just typing an email in Gmail causes the onscreen keyboard to become extremely slow after typing the first paragraph, to the point where I have to close out of Gmail and re-open it in order to get it to respond correctly again.
Is there something I'm missing here? Shouldn't this thing be much snappier than my Galaxy Nexus? Is there another ROM I should be using?
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Why would you ever think this tablet would be snappier than the Gnex? The Gnex is newer and has a newer and faster processor, with newer, more optimized software.
I don't get why you would think a tablet produced in May/June of last year would be somehow snappier than a device produced in October/November.
While I haven't found the tablet to have the same problems you described, I have to say I'm not very impressed with the Tab's performance. But we shouldn't be so quick to judge ICS; the drivers are community written so I wasn't expecting a lot out of them. ICS ROMs are smooth but there's always some sort of thing that pisses me off, or something that sparks a lagfest. Honeycomb ROMs seem to be a lot smoother. But I seem to notice a slice of laglaglag when the tablet is in portrait. Not that I use it in portrait, but still.
Games were a lagfest in both ICS and Honeycomb, the graphics looked pretty good but what use was it when the games are running at 10FPS? The only thing I can really say I like about this tablet is everything it's not supposed to do; run Ubuntu, both inside Android, and a native install of Ubuntu with Android removed. I like playing PS1 games on it too, something that crappy iPad couldn't do.
Another thing; tablet apps. Developers seem to ignore tablet users. Most apps I've used made me feel like my tablet was a big ass phone, and I've seen this complaint a lot.
But I gotta say I really regret not waiting. I wanted to go for the Transformer Prime but didn't want to wait. I regret letting my lack of patience get the best of me.
I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
same here- galaxy task10 is very smooth - couple it with ADW and it is very very snappy - ICS gives me a little bit more snap - so not sure what standards the OP is referencing since i also have Gnex and it does not feel any faster than my current tab
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I hope you actually flashed a rom after flashing CWM or else there's obviously going to be no difference. I somehow have never experienced issues on my end. Everything is fast for me, with either a stock rooted/unrooted rom or a custom rom. And if you couldnt see a difference between Honeycomb and ICS on your tablet, then something must be wrong. Even with the small glitches and bugs, it's very fast. Maybe you should overclock as well.
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Agreed with the previous 2 posters. I have used cyanogen, and am currently using task 14. While I too am wishing I had waited and bought the transformer (for other reasons), I am very happy with the responsiveness of my tab. Task 14 is, for me, a very smooth take on honeycomb. Add in some of boosted's themes for that ICS look, and I am quite content.
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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I have to admit that I am upset with the smoothness of ics. Whilst it is smoother than honeycomb, it still has a long way to go before I would call it smooth. But, I am not making judgements on ics until Sammy release their official version, and hopefully that will be smoother as it isn't all the honeycomb kernel source code patched and hack to make ics work. Also, does anyone else notice that on cm9 games feel like they have a lower frame rate than honeycomb, I was comparing games like mine craft on cm9 compared to my friends stock gtab10.1 and his stock 3.2 had a much higher frame rate, does anyone worse find this the case please?
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U still have to bare in mind ics on our tablet is still alpha....
So I think comparing a alpha build with a yr old os is silly really :L!
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If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
DSBMudkip said:
If I'm sick of lags I just overclock to 1400 and change the governor to performance.
Unfortunately I usually end up slowing that down when my battery drains in approximately 15 seconds...
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Galaxy task 14 + ADW + 1400 OC = smooth...
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I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
ShockPuppet said:
I also notice the Galaxy tab 10.1 is laggy.
I own an Asus transformer prime and the missus owns the galaxy tab, and its true that out of the box the asus is much much faster, mostly on the home screens. I had attributed this as a difference between HC 3.2 and ICS, we shall see.
However,
I cant mention enough just how vastly superior the wifi is on the galaxy tab. The difference is night and day. Oh it works on the asus alright (I have the latest serial version), but it seems to be very patchy. After an hour of using the browser on my TF prime and then picking up the galaxy tab the connection feels so much more solid and responsive and using the tab comes as something of a relief.
Thing is, it doesnt really matter what the specs are on paper, all I really care about is responsiveness of a good looking UI and good wifi. I feel that the tf prime is going to need a hard mod to sort out the wifi, which i will not do. On the other hand, I feel that a software update on the tab could sort out some of its lag issues, which would make the tab more useful in my household for our needs.
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Well a combination of ICS and a quad-core processor will blow away the Galaxy Tab without question.
stock = sucks
stock + swype keyboard = sucks ^2
In my case I flashed Gtask rom or overcome with pershoot kernel and keep avoiding swype.. and everything runs like silk now.
i'm not experiencing ANY lag what so ever after i flashed this rom:
[ROM] [ICS] Android Open Kang Project - p4/wifi/vzw - milestone 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459287