Guys, I read my local paper on my bus journey home each day, it's usually over 40 pages and can be 30-110Mb in size (depending on adverts and photos)
I've tried all the free readers and the only one that works without crashing is the free office app that came with the Tab, however this doesn't have a way to jump a few pages, for example, if I'm on page 20 and nearing home I want to jump to the back page to read the sports pages before I get off, with the office app I have to swipe right to the end
Is there anything out there that can handle the paper and also be able to jump around pages (and preferably, one that is nice to look at and maybe even animates turning pages!)
if anyone has any paid PDF viewers, can you try the paper and let me know how it handles it? (todays happens to be the smallest so far at 21Mb though I'll be putting tomorrows there in 16 hours so it depends when you read this as to which you download)
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Thanks
EzPDF reader is my favorite, does everything you need and is updated frequently by the developer.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/ezpdf-reader/udk.android.reader
Unfortunately there is no PDF annotation tool available for Android yet...
I've been using RepliGo Reader to handle some of my larger PDFs and find it satisfactory. It has a nice Reading View, supports Bookmarks, lets you go to any page you want, and select text for copying to another app. If the PDF has been set up properly, selecting the Bookmarks option shows a Table of Contents for fast moving around larger documents. It even handles the Adobe DRM files, which is one of the main reasons I use it. So far it has opened everything I have thrown at it, which is not the case with some of the other PDF readers I have tried. There is no fancy page animation, just a solid and usable app.
daniel.weck said:
EzPDF reader is my favorite, does everything you need and is updated frequently by the developer.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/ezpdf-reader/udk.android.reader
Unfortunately there is no PDF annotation tool available for Android yet...
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I've tried that, it doesn't like large PDF's
Maris_ said:
I've been using RepliGo Reader to handle some of my larger PDFs and find it satisfactory. It has a nice Reading View, supports Bookmarks, lets you go to any page you want, and select text for copying to another app. If the PDF has been set up properly, selecting the Bookmarks option shows a Table of Contents for fast moving around larger documents. It even handles the Adobe DRM files, which is one of the main reasons I use it. So far it has opened everything I have thrown at it, which is not the case with some of the other PDF readers I have tried. There is no fancy page animation, just a solid and usable app.
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I will give that a go, thanks
I'm currently reading a graphically-rich 12MB book with 740 pages, and RepliGo Reader really lacks the zoom + navigation features that make the reading experience acceptable. On top of that, large books take *ages* to load, the font kerning is often wrong (weird character spacing), and the page refresh logic is really distracting (transition from blurry bitmap to fine text in scalable vector graphics mode).
That's why I recommended the cheaper, but more full-featured ezPDF Reader.
I hope you eventually find what you need
Cheers, Dan
daniel.weck said:
I'm currently reading a graphically-rich 12MB book with 740 pages, and RepliGo Reader really lacks the zoom + navigation features that make the reading experience acceptable. On top of that, large books take *ages* to load, the font kerning is often wrong (weird character spacing), and the page refresh logic is really distracting (transition from blurry bitmap to fine text in scalable vector graphics mode).
That's why I recommended the cheaper, but more full-featured ezPDF Reader.
I hope you eventually find what you need
Cheers, Dan
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can you try it with the newspaper I've linked to?
I've just uploaded todays which is 40 pages and 65Mb (av 1.6Mb per page) which is about normal each day and will be more challenging than a book that's on average 0.016Mb per page
the pages in the 20's are most difficult as they have adverts and classifieds in them
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
ezPDF is one of the best I've used so far
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tried them all, repligo is the fastest page render by far.
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ezPDF is one of the best I've used so far
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le3ky said:
tried them all, repligo is the fastest page render by far.
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how do they cope with the paper I've linked to above?
that's all I'll be using it for
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
mmace said:
Guys, I read my local paper on my bus journey home each day, it's usually over 40 pages and can be 30-110Mb in size (depending on adverts and photos)
I've tried all the free readers and the only one that works without crashing is the free office app that came with the Tab, however this doesn't have a way to jump a few pages, for example, if I'm on page 20 and nearing home I want to jump to the back page to read the sports pages before I get off, with the office app I have to swipe right to the end
Is there anything out there that can handle the paper and also be able to jump around pages (and preferably, one that is nice to look at and maybe even animates turning pages!)
if anyone has any paid PDF viewers, can you try the paper and let me know how it handles it? (todays happens to be the smallest so far at 21Mb though I'll be putting tomorrows there in 16 hours so it depends when you read this as to which you download)
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Thanks
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Have you tried the Adobe Android app?
Might also want to look into turning it into an epub. Download Calibre for your PC/Mac, let it do the conversion, and can even be setup to automatically pull down news sources and convert them to the format of your choice, and sync them to your device of choice.
Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
For epub readers, I'm really fond of Aldiko. And Perfect Viewer is also a nice app for CBZ, PDF, etc (though the UI could use a bit of work).
mmace said:
how do they cope with the paper I've linked to above?
that's all I'll be using it for
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
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I downloaded the paper and tried it with the free Adobe Reader app from the Market and it works fine. All graphics and text are there. If you use the "Continuous Scroll" you can quickly scroll through a birdseye view of the pages until you find the one you want to view. The "Fit to Screen" view does what it says and a double-tap on an article or text area will zoom it to an easily readable size. It also supports pinch to zoom if you need a different size. Long-pressing the screen brings up a scrollbar across the bottom and some other options.
RepliGo Reader also renders all but the very first page for some reason, but it is a paid app, and for a newspaper, the Adobe Reader does just as nice a job for free.
I tried to take screenshots of the various menu options and choices, but neither app will let me create one. No such thing as a long-press on the back button because they immediately go back until they exit.
Hope this info helps.
Croak said:
Have you tried the Adobe Android app?
Might also want to look into turning it into an epub. Download Calibre for your PC/Mac, let it do the conversion, and can even be setup to automatically pull down news sources and convert them to the format of your choice, and sync them to your device of choice.
Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
For epub readers, I'm really fond of Aldiko. And Perfect Viewer is also a nice app for CBZ, PDF, etc (though the UI could use a bit of work).
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Hi, I've tried the official Adobe Reader and it never even renders the 1st page, it just crashes the Tab after a minute or 2 of trying
I will look into the ebook thing, thanks
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I downloaded the paper and tried it with the free Adobe Reader app from the Market and it works fine. All graphics and text are there. If you use the "Continuous Scroll" you can quickly scroll through a birdseye view of the pages until you find the one you want to view. The "Fit to Screen" view does what it says and a double-tap on an article or text area will zoom it to an easily readable size. It also supports pinch to zoom if you need a different size. Long-pressing the screen brings up a scrollbar across the bottom and some other options.
RepliGo Reader also renders all but the very first page for some reason, but it is a paid app, and for a newspaper, the Adobe Reader does just as nice a job for free.
I tried to take screenshots of the various menu options and choices, but neither app will let me create one. No such thing as a long-press on the back button because they immediately go back until they exit.
Hope this info helps.
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I've tried the official one and it had trouble loading any pages at all and crashed each time
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Just to reiterate a bit, Calibre rocks.
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Or not. I have a few PDF books i bought from Manning, and Calibre fails flat on face on those files. Yes, it does convert them - but all pictures are destroyed during the conversion and because of the signature at bottom of every page, it makes the final epub file even worse.
Only if there would be a reader which could read both epub and pdf formats in one app.
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Or not. I have a few PDF books i bought from Manning, and Calibre fails flat on face on those files. Yes, it does convert them - but all pictures are destroyed during the conversion and because of the signature at bottom of every page, it makes the final epub file even worse.
Only if there would be a reader which could read both epub and pdf formats in one app.
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I just tried it to convert today's 120Mb paper to an 80Mb ePub, just uploading it now to test
Trying to import todays paper into Aldiko and it's said "Importing Books..." for over 20 minutes now, it;s only an 80Mb book, I think this software has failed at the first hurdle
Any other "decent" ePub readers out there?
mmace said:
Hi, I've tried the official Adobe Reader and it never even renders the 1st page, it just crashes the Tab after a minute or 2 of trying
I will look into the ebook thing, thanks
I've tried the official one and it had trouble loading any pages at all and crashed each time
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Sorry these apps didn't work for you. I didn't have any crashes using the link you provided with either app on my Tab (T-Mo version, not rooted). I'm out of ideas at this point. I even tried it on my Nexus One and had no problems. Sorry.
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Sorry these apps didn't work for you. I didn't have any crashes using the link you provided with either app on my Tab (T-Mo version, not rooted). I'm out of ideas at this point. I even tried it on my Nexus One and had no problems. Sorry.
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maybe it's because yesterdays paper was so small?
can you try again now?
I just uploaded today's which is 120Mb
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
Hope it's not my Tab
I've also done an ePub, www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.epub which is 80Mb
Converting a PDF with rich column layout (like newspapers or magazines) into an EPUB is a terrible idea. EPUB is designed for reflowable text, not for pixel-perfect ("fixed layout") documents.
I noticed that ezPDF provides "intelligent" navigation features, to automatically move from one column to the next, in order to mimic the human reading flow (eye movement). Unfortunately some PDFs (including the 60MB example kindly provided in this thread for testing) are badly formatted and do not indicate the correct reading flow.
By the way, this unfortunate mediocre PDF encoding is the main cause for awful EPUB conversions. The misuse of typesetting tools in the publishing industry results in pretty poor content quality, structurally-speaking (because the emphasis is on visual appearance, not raw content organization).
So, the best course of action is to continue testing PDF readers (in depth, not just superficially => use previous/next navigation features, double-tap zoom with column scroll-locking, pinch/stretch zoom for fine margin adjustments, placemarks / bookmarks, etc. etc.).
Some PDF reading apps are better maintained than others on the Market. There may be opportunities to report bugs or request features.
Cheers, Dan
mmace said:
I just uploaded today's which is 120Mb
www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.pdf
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LOL, even my modern laptop struggles to browse this PDF smoothly
I don't expect a mobile device to offer a smooth reading experience
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I've also done an ePub, www.maffmace.co.uk/YEP.epub which is 80Mb
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Don't bother. EPUB conversion is not satisfactory for this kind of PDF content (as I explained in the post above).
Cheers, Dan
daniel.weck said:
Converting a PDF with rich column layout (like newspapers or magazines) into an EPUB is a terrible idea. EPUB is designed for reflowable text, not for pixel-perfect ("fixed layout") documents.
I noticed that ezPDF provides "intelligent" navigation features, to automatically move from one column to the next, in order to mimic the human reading flow (eye movement). Unfortunately some PDFs (including the 60MB example kindly provided in this thread for testing) are badly formatted and do not indicate the correct reading flow.
By the way, this unfortunate mediocre PDF encoding is the main cause for awful EPUB conversions. The misuse of typesetting tools in the publishing industry results in pretty poor content quality, structurally-speaking (because the emphasis is on visual appearance, not raw content organization).
So, the best course of action is to continue testing PDF readers (in depth, not just superficially => use previous/next navigation features, double-tap zoom with column scroll-locking, pinch/stretch zoom for fine margin adjustments, placemarks / bookmarks, etc. etc.).
Some PDF reading apps are better maintained than others on the Market. There may be opportunities to report bugs or request features.
Cheers, Dan
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the 60Mb one was "created" by myself, each page sent to the printers is around 4Mb, I then put them all together in 1 file and then "print" to a PDF file at 72dpi and A6 page size to reduce the file size
If you download the 120Mb one today, that one is the original files just merged into 1 PDF
I cannot test PDF readers in depth because most don't even open large PDF's like todays
I am looking for a PDF viewer that will display Title information scrapped out of the metadata rather than the filename. The filenames of the files I am interested in viewing are the document number (i.e. 52343234245.pdf) and the Title is much more user friendly (i.e. LRU User Guide).
When I import PDFs into iBooks on the iPad, this information in automatically scrapped out. Any apps with similar functionality on Android?
Even a desktop utility that does the renaming would be better than nothing.
Lumiread that comes with the A500 shows the metadata, and it also allows you to fetch the metadata from the Internet, too. On 3.0.1 Lumiread is a tad slow, though, but I hear it's gotten some performance improvements in 3.1.
I've been looking for a good pdf viewer with two simple features; remember the page when closing a book and the ability to create bookmarks. Never thought of Lumiread until you mentioned it
Thanks
ezPDF is another one that's absolutely great, offers bookmarks, allows you to highlight selections, add your own notes etc. to PDF files, and it's really fast. It doesn't sport a bookshelf like the Lumiread though, nor does it show metadata.
EDIT: Just asked them if they have any plans to add similar support for metadata and a virtual "bookshelf" to ezPDF, I'll try to remember to mention here when I get a reply.
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Just asked them if they have any plans to add similar support for metadata and a virtual "bookshelf" to ezPDF, I'll try to remember to mention here when I get a reply.
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Thanks, I was going to e-mail them, but the firewall blocks their site for being high risk/malicious.
I'm not getting any reply from ezPDF folks, absolutely none. But after having tried a few other ebook readers Mantano Reader and Aldiko Book Reader both seem pretty good and both also support metadata. So far I lean towards Mantano myself, but I can't really find any specific issues with Aldiko either, just that the bookshelf view is slow to scroll.
Apart from showing metadata, which software is the fastest to flip page?
I found ezReader quite slow
When I flip page using Ipad 2, it really fast & smooth
I need such software for my Iconia as well
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Not sure if this is an appropriate forum to post… but here goes.
I am looking to buy Nook Color primarily to read pdfs. I would say part of my work requires spending a lot of time reading (and put comments in) pdfs.
My concern is how is the pdf reading experience on NC with 7" display. I'm especially looking to hear from anyone who uses NC to read pdfs.
Are all kinds of pdfs with different settings comfortabley viewable (that is, you don’t have to constantly zoom in and zoom out a page on a pdf book).
Thanks a lot in advance for your valuable insight.
I've read a few PDFs on my nook and it's mostly good. The thing is, it depends very much on the formatting of the individual PDFs themselves. Since they're fairly static, the ones I've used don't reflow well (ie. you lose formatting or images) if you try to use that option. If they are mostly text, then it shouldn't be as much of a problem. The ones I have read most are formatted in a 4x3 aspect ration, so on the Nook's 16x9 screen, they are very small with a border on the top and bottom in portrait mode (unless you zoom and scroll), but in landscape mode they are very readable aside from some extra scrolling required. All in all, it's really not bad. By the way, I mainly use the ezPDF reader app instead of Acrobat.
I've been using ezpdreader. It works for me, since I'm a grad student I read a lot of pdfs just like you. With this app you can do all sorts of annotations (comments, highlights, etc). It takes a little time loading big pdfs, for now it is the best app I have found for my needs.
It works better if you have your pdfs ocred. I use Acrobat Pro to ocr files before uploading to NC. Once it's ocred you can use the autozoom (full screen view) by double tapping the screen and you can read on landscape or portrait.
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Yeah, same here, grad student reading papers as pdfs with ezPDF reader. I've found it works great for new pdf's, where you can auto-zoom to fit columns and figures and use text reflow. For older pdfs (eg. scanned images) it's not that good. But I've not tried to run optical character recognition (ocr) on them either, I'll have to try try that. The best benefit though, is the fact that it keeps a full file cabinet of papers so I can always jump back to my 'favorites' or primary references, and if I'm at a conference I can find and add new ones.
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Yeah, same here, grad student reading papers as pdfs with ezPDF reader. I've found it works great for new pdf's, where you can auto-zoom to fit columns and figures and use text reflow. For older pdfs (eg. scanned images) it's not that good. But I've not tried to run optical character recognition (ocr) on them either, I'll have to try try that. The best benefit though, is the fact that it keeps a full file cabinet of papers so I can always jump back to my 'favorites' or primary references, and if I'm at a conference I can find and add new ones.
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Yeah I have lots of scanned pdfs and I used, as I said before, Acrobat Pro in my PC to recognize text. As we all know ocr isn't perfect but at least it will let you highlight the words in the pdf (even when it didn't correctly identified the right word). So you might not be able to copy paste a sentence correctly, but you will be able to make annotations on the pdf.
I haven't tried ezPDF so I can't comment but I do strongly recommend you to try out the Mantano PDF Reader.
I mostly use ezPDF too. I've looked at Mantano because people seem so enthusiastic about it, but it doesn't do the fit to the screen or column that ezPDF does.
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I mostly use ezPDF too. I've looked at Mantano because people seem so enthusiastic about it, but it doesn't do the fit to the screen or column that ezPDF does.
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You meant it auto zoom to fit the page on screen?
popsnorkle said:
I mostly use ezPDF too. I've looked at Mantano because people seem so enthusiastic about it, but it doesn't do the fit to the screen or column that ezPDF does.
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Mantano allows fit to screen and several varieties of zoom, and can zoom on a column with the appropriate gesture. A number of solid ezpdf users have switched to mantano recently. However, if you want to do a lot of different types of annotations, repligo is still the way to go.
skwalas said:
Mantano allows fit to screen and several varieties of zoom, and can zoom on a column with the appropriate gesture. A number of solid ezpdf users have switched to mantano recently. However, if you want to do a lot of different types of annotations, repligo is still the way to go.
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I had repligo before ezpdf but it wouldn't let me highlight ocr pdfs. So I switch and ezpdf hasn't failed me yet, it also has all type of annotations even free hand
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