Now we're getting to the point where nothing belongs anywhere. Seriously, stop ****ting on us productive and helpful members. And now apparently voicing your opinion doesn't belong anywhere either. This place used to be a fun and open community, now it seems like a place for these "moderators" to openly abuse their power.
Couldn't agree more. COMMUNICATION moderators!
this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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this isnt just non productive, trolling members anymore..
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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Right we're legitimately trying to help and these asshats are taking it as spam. Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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sadly +1 thomasskull666, qbking77, and Chris41g you are all right. this ubermod heavy handedness is ridiculous.
you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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you better hurry up and put "rumor" or a different phones name in the title or this ****s gonna get locked too...
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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You're right, you should be allowed to post copyrighted information wherever you want...
I agree there seems to be a general disconnect between the moderators but you people need to open your eyes to what you are complaining about (I'm looking at you chris41g)
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troll 10char
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Come on, grow up and show some respect for other members who have probably been here longer than some of these so called "moderators"
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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so Machx0r, or should i call you Cory Charlton, famous cut and paste dev of the smoking log. what did you find in Chris41g's post that was copywritten material. i don't see any at all. who appointed you forum sherrif anyway. if you don't like what you see, just go away. you are not contributing to EPIC development one bit with all this.
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(Wish I had the option to save sent replies prior to sending this):
<Summary>The McGraw hill book with a clear copyright of 2008 on page 3 or whaterver</Summary>
Call me a troll all you want but I believe that stealing is wrong. Sue me...
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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If you are too blind to see the issue then leave. YOU aren't helping, you're making this harder on yourself.
Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
the issue is that any thread regarding "epic general chat" in the "epic general chat" section is closed, yet numerous unrelated flaming, trolling threads remain open.. how is a thread asking where to begin learning to develop for the epic off topic in the "epic" general chat?
Ok, so which threads were closed that you feel shouldn't have been? Apart from the two that were closed by Mr. Clown?
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As you'll see, I've been a member here for a number of years...though I don't care about the size of my e-peen
I've seen one (or possibly 2) threads closed regarding the "how to" with kernels etc. Is this what all the fuss is about? or is there more to it than that?
If we can understand the problem, we can hopefully come up with a solution.
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Here is the problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177076
chris41g posted a link to a copyrighted McGraw hill PDF. The thread was closed and the link was removed (partially, still available in a quote). and now the whining begins about how it's unfair that you prohibit them from stealing the hard work of others...
Seriously? Unfortunately...
PS: There is also the starter thread that was perhaps closed out of line but really whine about it like this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176684
and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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Is there anyone here who's actually willing to work with the mods to resolve these "issues"?
Simply starting a thread complaining isn't going to help if you can't have a civil discussion with the mods.
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What planet are you from? The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour. Obviously there is some sort of disconnect, so please sort out your internal troubles before coming in here flaunting your moderator status. Chris41g and I have been here for quite some time so we're no stranger to the overpowering by mods, but at some point it has to stop and I think now is a great time. We go months and months without seeing a single moderator and now all of a sudden you guys come in and starting closing/deleting threads left and right with no explanation. Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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and regarding the copywritten material, simple mistake, it was a collection of reference materials... but it was explicitly cited as not being the reason the thread was closed.. it was closed for off topic.. how can anything epic related be off topic in epic general chat?
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False:
Mr. Clown said:
Thank you for your good intentions, there is a great forum in this site (Chef central) where everybody has access and learn all about this.
Also, you are breaching rule number 9, posting copyright material.
Thread closed and links removed,
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He even thanked you for your intentions...
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The issue is you mods keep closing helpful and meaningful threads with no explanation, then leaving the useless and detrimental ones open for the trolls to devour.
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Can you please point me to these "helpful and meaningful threads" that have been closed? (aside from the two recent ones closed by Mr. Clown)? Then we can establish the problems.
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Please refer me to whoever you have as a supervisor, I would like to speak to them directly if not tonight then tomorrow.
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Feel free to PM MikeChannon, the forum admin.
if you cant read....
he closed it because he said it belonged elsewhere..
then went on to say, ALSO it contained copywrighted material. now, since that issue is cleared up. can you get off my nuts about the book?
Related
Any luck? ..
That's what PM's are for. You don't need to start a whole thread about this.
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That's what PM's are for. You don't need to start a whole thread about this.
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If i knew his user name i would have done that, thanks! Besides, its help with his rooted cdma hero.
gomorrah said:
That's what PM's are for. You don't need to start a whole thread about this.
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Please I've seen threads started for less. If we had a mod that'd be one thing. But we don't.
Edit: I nominate you for moderator maybe you could turn this sub-forum around
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Please I've seen threads started for less. If we had a mod that'd be one thing. But we don't.
Edit: I nominate you for moderator maybe you could turn this sub-forum around
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I would gladly accept. I spend an inordinate amount of time in here anyway.
gomorrah said:
I would gladly accept. I spend an inordinate amount of time in here anyway.
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Well let's get the ball rolling on this
thedudejdog said:
Well let's get the ball rolling on this
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I would love to. But I can guarantee that if this gets taken even halfway seriously, there'll be about 100 other guys jump out of the woodwork to nominate themselves instead. And then something that could have been productive will end up as an epic cluster ****.
Back on track, what best buy where? Just wondering
I nominate epic clusterfuck.
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I nominate epic clusterfuck.
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Just a second, let me create a user name "epicclusterfuck"
sup guys!?
thedudejdog said:
Just a second, let me create a user name "epicclusterfuck"
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Don't be stealin my material dudejog.
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sup guys!?
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Wtf that's me
In all seriousness, this forum needs moderation badly. TBH, that's a big part of the reason I (used to) avoid it. Any informative thread is quickly buried with a ton of "Help me I can't root" replies. Someone with 'authority' needs to be able to tell these people to read the how-to's, and if it's beyond their comprehension they have no business modifying their device. It's a developers nightmare trying to support his/her work while being flooded with questions answered a million times elsewhere.
gbhil said:
In all seriousness, this forum needs moderation badly. TBH, that's a big part of the reason I (used to) avoid it. Any informative thread is quickly buried with a ton of "Help me I can't root" replies. Someone with 'authority' needs to be able to tell these people to read the how-to's, and if it's beyond their comprehension they have no business modifying their device. It's a developers nightmare trying to support his/her work while being flooded with questions answered a million times elsewhere.
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I've said this before, I'm not even a dev, I nominate epicclusterfuck for moderation of this forum, we need someone to lock posts, move posts, and ban members after so many warnings. I started on this forum in the Harold/wing section and if you messed around in there you got a quick warning. After that there would be massive flaming.
I never posted over there in fear of being flamed, there is no respect in the hero cdma forums.
gbhil said:
In all seriousness, this forum needs moderation badly. TBH, that's a big part of the reason I (used to) avoid it. Any informative thread is quickly buried with a ton of "Help me I can't root" replies. Someone with 'authority' needs to be able to tell these people to read the how-to's, and if it's beyond their comprehension they have no business modifying their device. It's a developers nightmare trying to support his/her work while being flooded with questions answered a million times elsewhere.
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I don't think it would possible for me to agree with you more.
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I've said this before, I'm not even a dev, I nominate epicclusterfuck for moderation of this forum, we need someone to lock posts, move posts, and ban members after so many warnings. I started on this forum in the Harold/wing section and if you messed around in there you got a quick warning. After that there would be massive flaming.
I never posted over there in fear of being flamed, there is no respect in the hero cdma forums.
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Sign me up.
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In all seriousness, this forum needs moderation badly. TBH, that's a big part of the reason I (used to) avoid it. Any informative thread is quickly buried with a ton of "Help me I can't root" replies. Someone with 'authority' needs to be able to tell these people to read the how-to's, and if it's beyond their comprehension they have no business modifying their device. It's a developers nightmare trying to support his/her work while being flooded with questions answered a million times elsewhere.
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And that's what I attempt do but everyone jumps on me because I'm "not being friendly to the n00bs" when I tell them their question has been asked & they need to search.
LOL. How could anyone NOT cast a vote for someone named epicclusterfuck for a position in administration. It's like truth in advertising
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Sign me up.
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Well, I hate to say this but you only have two posts, I think they like moderators to have 10 posts it more
I love this forum and am on here every day. However, I find it hard to wake up in the morning and read through several pages of when is the update coming or flashing now etc.etc.etc.
I am not sure if a moderator has the abilityor not but, to me, It seems that all the useless posts should be cleaned up and removed from [DEV] threads. That way all the pertinant information reguarding the thread can be found in just a few pages instead of tons. Thus eliminating most of the how do you root, how do you flash, how do you, (well i think you get the picture).
Anywho,Just my humble opinion.
+1
If I was a mod I would clean all the Dev threads but well I am just a poster
haha you gotta be kidding me to clean up this thread would be to much hassle...would be easier just to bomb this whole sub forum and just start new
even to clean just the dev threads that are most important are filled with so much useless posts it would take a lot of work for a mod to clean up
Not Necessarily.
Not sure how vBulletin works, but I know when I used to mod on PHPbb/Punbb forums, moderators had the option to do batch deletes on posts.
don't make useless posts about useless posts...
Maybe there should be a Android Dev forum for the cdma hero like the gsm hero have.
Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
-AndyS-
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Someone had suggested in the darchstar rom thread that dev threads should have a rule that no one can post unless they have at least 200 posts under their belt. (or something like that)
I'm not sure if the forum has those kind of options, but that would cut down on some of the silliness that is asked on the threads by noobs. (usually because they didn't even take the time to read through all the posts and see that the same question had been asked, and answered, 10 other times)
I would sure like to see it. Even though I'm not close to 200 posts yet
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That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.
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That is a terrible idea. Post count is not an indicator of experience.
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and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204
johnsongrantr said:
and you are posting here too? JESUS CHRIST man!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639204
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stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.
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stfu, that thread was started to invite him to share with the people at large.
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look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!
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look at the G*D D*MN title of this topic!!! INVITE HIM WITH A PM NOT A NEW THREAD!!!
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No. I will post a question to him if I please. It's not hurting anyone else and its not "useless" as you implied with your reference to the title of this thread. His response could be of use to other people.
even though i know people will jump on my back for this I agree...some people on thius forum provide valuable help and services and then some people just think they are getting paid by xda to police forums....they act like they have stock in xda and have a say....although they may find some topics useless..some dont...so dont waste your time by acting like your gods gift to xda cause it legitimetly does no one any good
f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care
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f*uck... i don't even care anymore... post a topic about eating a cheeseburger for all i care
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lets not do that people.
Every thread that Master can't prove something he request that it be closed?
Give me an example of a thread
Link please
who cares. he is a developer and works for FREE. let me ask a question:
why do so many people here dry to drive away all of our developers? Do you want a phone from samsung with crappy software that runs about as smooth as my old mytouch with 2.2?
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Every thread that Master can't prove something he request that it be closed?
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You mean the thread that was hi-jacked? What did I not prove?
I requested it be closed BECAUSE it was hi-jacked.
My last thread was closed because you started a flame war & it got off topic.
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who cares. he is a developer and works for FREE. let me ask a question:
why do so many people here dry to drive away all of our developers? Do you want a phone from samsung with crappy software that runs about as smooth as my old mytouch with 2.2?
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He doesn't work for free, each link in his signature goes to his donation box. Go check out his website where his donation % went from being at 90% of his goal to now its back at 5%.
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Give me an example of a thread
Link please
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here ya go...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10211606#post10211606
oh Master since you feel it's acceptable to tell people NOT to post in thread, I am asking you to NOT post in this thread.
thanks
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He doesn't work for free, each link in his signature goes to his donation box. Go check out his website where his donation % went from being at 90% of his goal to now its back at 5%.
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Do you realize that is automatically reset every month and goes up to the percentage that is for my server?
We just had a town hall, did you even read it?
Master™ said:
You mean the thread that was hi-jacked? What did I not prove?
I requested it be closed BECAUSE it was hi-jacked.
My last thread was closed because you started a flame war & it got off topic.
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actually I did not start a flame war, it appears one of the actual developers of the Sense port called you out, and that is what lead to you asking for the thread to be closed. Please get your fact straight.
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actually I did not start a flame war, it appears one of the actual developers of the Sense port called you out, and that is what lead to you asking for the thread to be closed. Please get your fact straight.
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He didn't develop anything to my knowledge. He didn't call me out, he stated something and I told him what I heard & he knows.
He asked everyone else to do something.
Rafy was a main developer
Like I said, please get your facts right. And quit flame baiting.
And you DID start a flame war in my old thread.
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He didn't develop anything to my knowledge. He didn't call me out, he stated something and I told him what I heard & he knows.
He asked everyone else to do something.
Rafy was a main developer
Like I said, please get your facts right. And quit flame baiting.
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so Rafy was the main developer which leads me to believe there were others? Maybe that's why it was called TeamgalaxySense?
I think you just proved my point for me, thanks!
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so Rafy was the main developer which leads me to believe there were others? Maybe that's why it was called TeamgalaxySense?
I think you just proved my point for me, thanks!
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Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
The thread was closed for a reason, why open up a thread, that is a flame bait?
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Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
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Yes you did but that is where you are wrong, you were not the first person that got it to boot. Barakin was the first to have it booting on the Vibrant not you.
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Hmmm. Didn't I say, several times.
That is the first beta that I GOT TO BOOT
The thing was dropped. If they wanted to start a new thread with there newest work, then they could of. But they didn't
The thread was closed for a reason, why open up a thread, that is a flame bait?
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This thread was created to ask the general public a question, hence why it's in the general section. Sorry if you can't resist the urge to post here, I've asked you NOT to but you still continue.
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Yes you did but that is where you are wrong, you were not the first person that got it to boot. Barakin was the first to have it booting on the Vibrant not you.
This thread was created to ask the general public a question, hence why it's in the general section. Sorry if you can't resist the urge to post here, I've asked you NOT to but you still continue.
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You just came to my forum under the username tester123 spammed it, flamed people.. And the posted this:\
You always flame EVERYONE.
http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/6976/reallypng.png
Try to contribute to the community
RSFAZE,
Go find a girlfriend or something to do....... I do not know what your issue with this dev or any dev has done to "sink your rubber ducky........... but keep it to yourself. If you don't like master or any other dev don't bring it here to pollute XDA
Mod please close this as it is not productive to XDA and does not beneift this forum or its members
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RSFAZE,
Go find a girlfriend or something to do....... I do not know what your issue with this dev or any dev has done to "sink your rubber ducky........... but keep it to yourself. If you don't like master or any other dev don't bring it here to pollute XDA
Mod please close this as it is not productive to XDA and does not beneift this forum or its members
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reported for flaming. This thread was again created to get feedback from the community, not to have someone with their feelings hurt come here and spam this thread.
Now if you have something productive to add, I would love to hear it.
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reported for flaming. This thread was again created to get feedback from the community, not to have someone with their feelings hurt come here and spam this thread.
Now if you have something productive to add, I would love to hear it.
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I am reporting this thread for off topic, non productive & flame bait
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I am reporting this thread for off topic, non productive & flame bait
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Off topic? I don't follow. This thread is in the general area, not in development and it seems pretty on topic if you ask me. So far all responses have been directed at the OP.
Don't get upset at me because you can't stand back and let the community speak for themselves on this.
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Off topic? I don't follow. This thread is in the general area, not in development and it seems pretty on topic if you ask me. So far all responses have been directed at the OP.
Don't get upset at me because you can't stand back and let the community speak for themselves on this.
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This isn't about the Vibrant. So it is off topic. Just because it isn't in the development section doesn't mean it is on-topic
Goodnight though. I am tired, had a long day.
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This isn't about the Vibrant. So it is off topic. Just because it isn't in the development section doesn't mean it is on-topic
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Well since you develop for the Vibrant, I think this is the most logical place for this thread. If the mods of this site feel it's better in another area they will move it.
Would this be more on topic in a section of XDA that you are not known?
It's pretty sad that I have had to post in a big thread regarding this and had to directly try and PM a moderator to have this done and still not had this taken care of. I have people asking questions regarding the poll and I have to tell them to disregard it because I, the creator of my own thread, can't delete a poll that I made. Makes no sense.
So, FOR THE LAST TIME, WILL A MODERATOR DELETE THE POLL ON THIS THREAD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959776
Thanks. Appreciate it. I'll be bumping and re-posting until the poll gets deleted. I shouldn't have to do 3 different things to have a problem taken care of that shouldn't even be a problem.
I'm sure that you are a helpful person, and that many people appreciate your work here,...
But can't help feeling that this is a bit over aggressive and unnecessary.
Over a poll.
Posted out in public.
With "threats" to keep bumping until your (frankly minor) problem is taken care of.
Maybe you could just make a Big Red Notice on the OP about the poll?
(editing, so I don't bump.) : I just don't think this will endear you to the XDA staff, or community, ya know?
It wouldn't be over-aggressive or unnecessary if this wasn't the 3rd time I've tried to get the poll deleted. If the moderators who are put in the position to moderate would check their private messages on here and on IRC, this never would have happened.
I will keep re-posting this if this thread is deleted and I will keep bumping it until a moderator, whose job it is to moderate, does his job.
It's a simple concept, really.
I PM'd toast. I PM'd him on IRC. I posted in a big thread for people to report or make requests to moderators. Nothing happened. I'm not going to put it on my thread as I shouldn't have to. It's my thread. I should be able to delete my own polls. It makes no sense that I can't.
Oh yeah. Bump.
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I PM'd toast. I PM'd him on IRC. I posted in a big thread for people to report or make requests to moderators. Nothing happened. I'm not going to put it on my thread as I shouldn't have to. It's my thread. I should be able to delete my own polls. It makes no sense that I can't.
Oh yeah. Bump.
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yeah, i understand... but remember, there is only one moderator specifically for the evo section... i am sure he has a lot of pms, and a lot of other things to do as well.
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yeah, i understand... but remember, there is only one moderator specifically for the evo section... i am sure he has a lot of pms, and a lot of other things to do as well.
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Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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#teamlose
10chars
#teamfail
"We jizzed our pants when cm added our 4g fix!!"
We report to mods and cry about thieves.
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Wrong.
I have seen a handful. Hey maybe if we start an argument about stealing code they might flock here quick.
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lol....funny and true.
Edit: Anyone got salt for my popcorn?
I believe only admins can remove polls, not mods. Is mikechannon still around? Try sending him a pm.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
not wrong... because i said mod. There are plenty of admins, but aren't they not for any specific section? look at the bottem of the general forum section, you see that number of mods? .... fail.
I've seen plenty of Senior Moderators from other boards step in here and close threads that they aren't in charge of moderating. If they can do that, they can delete a poll. I don't understand why it's this difficult to have such a simple task done? I should be able to delete it myself, but can't. Silliest thing ever.
I was told by a senior mod in this thread that senior mods can edit polls and admins can remove them. According to this thread, there are three admins (including mikechannon who removed my poll when I pmed him about it). So to remove a poll, you need to pm one of those three people.
btw, that first thread I mentioned that said to reach out to an admin is the first result when searching the term "how to remove a poll" (without quotes). just sayin.
for some perspective, I have a ton of people in my office that we allow access to edit certain information, but none of them have access to remove it entirely. I imagine admins vs mods are set up the same way. Good luck.
Voted...awesome poll.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375657
Wow. This place is completely ******.
I've donated to jt1134 FOUR times, and I posted a PUBLIC link on a PUBLIC forum. He can refuse to post here all he wants, but I'm completely free to post a link to guide others to the right spot.
Not one reply was necessary, let alone 2+ pages of bull**** FALSE privacy NONSENSE.
The link to JT's rom belongs in the DEV section, not General, because DEV is where people go to find ****ing ROMS. DUH! The whole reason I posted it is so the average uninformed visitor doesn't install Enyo's ICS SDK crap-fest and finds the real daily driver ICS.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375657
Wow. This place is completely *****.
I've donated to jt1134 FOUR times, and I posted a PUBLIC link on a PUBLIC forum. He can refuse to post here all he wants, but I'm completely free to post a link to guide others to the right spot.
Not one reply was necessary, let alone 3 pages of bull**** FALSE privacy NONSENSE.
The link to JT's rom belongs in the DEV section, not General, because DEV is where people go to find ****ing ROMS. The whole reason I posted it is so the average uninformed visitor doesn't install Enyo's ICS SDK crap-fest and finds the real daily driver ICS.
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Still doesn't belong in the Dev section because the Dev section is used for Devving. No Devving is going to occur in a thread that links to the real post, its an information post.
If random uninformed users flash Enyo's ICS instead of JT's that's on them for not reading.
PS - Nobody gives a **** how many times you've donated to JT, it's not like its some badge of honor that people wield about as weapons. Please put your epeen away.
Its just a phase of high drama that will hopefully pass quickly.
However, when you sit back and don't get involved, it is quite entertaining. / heading to the store for more popcorn.
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Still doesn't belong in the Dev section because the Dev section is used for Devving. No Devving is going to occur in a thread that links to the real post, its an information post.
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Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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When people don't post garbage in threads, plenty of Devving goes on in Dev threads. Or, at least it used to. That's just one of the plethora of reasons JT no longer posts here.
Nobody called you a leech, so there was no reason to mention it.
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Its just a phase of high drama that will hopefully pass quickly.
However, when you sit back and don't get involved, it is quite entertaining. / heading to the store for more popcorn.
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Plz to bring me back some popcorn too?
Has anyone seen John Connor?
This thread also closed in 3... 2... (remember what happened the last time I posted a countdown?)
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Yeah, but that was a reported General thread in the Dev section. And I have a spare moment before it gets closed, lol.
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This thread also closed in 3... 2... (remember what happened the last time I posted a countdown?)
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Stop kanging me!
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@Gfosco it wasn't Anything personal towards you. You also could have simply pm'd me and we could have spoke about it. I closed it because it turned into pages and pages of bickering, trolling and flaming.....
Sorry for my short reply when I closed it. I was watching my kids also and was having a rough time writing also.
I totally agree with you on the pages of BS. And I'm getting pretty sick of seeing it in the dev section myself also. Trust me I'm gonna do all I can to help man.
Regarding jts Rom, I dunno. Send him a pm and ask him about posting a dev topic over here on it and I will do my best to help keep it clean.
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I have never used profanity in any of my posts nor have I ever sent it in a PM. I don't appreciate nasty, vulgar, f-bomb filled messages sent to me and I really don't like seeing it on the threads either, but since I am not the forum police I don't say much about it unless it's extremely vulgar and abusive, like the PM gfosco sent me. Anyone else who wants to get nasty, vulgar and abusive with me in a PM can expect me to expose the nature of the message for everyone to see. Count on it! /rant
Has anyone seen John Connor?
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Stop kanging me!
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Sorry... I had forgotten where I first saw a countdown posted here in the forums
Has anyone seen John Connor?
gfosco said:
Awesome point.... let's talk about that. How much "devving" goes on in a rom thread? I'm going with none. They are release posts, nothing more!
The donate thing isn't a badge of honor, however I think it's an important point to prove I'm not just some leech. The system doesn't work if people don't support the developers.
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I don't think you get it: Did you in any way consult with, ask permission for or notify jt in any way about posting a link to HIS work on this forum? If the answer is yes and he ok'ed it, then I apologize and I will go back to minding my own business. However, I know this is not what happened. You didn't ask his permission in any way and therefore you stepped over the line. Now, is it a really big deal, no. But, many of us are friends with jt (as much as you can be through the internet), we spend a lot of time in IRC together. So, we know his wishes regarding HIS work and we respect that. He has stated in NO way does he want any of his work posted on xda. We would rather not have jt say fu** it and stop posting builds on the forums period because his wishes aren't being considered. That would screw over a lot of people like yourself (who donate to jt) and there would be NO links at all to post, like the one you posted. The conclusion: was what you did, in itself, wrong? No. But you did not ask his permission to post HIS intellectual property on this forum, and that my friend is wrong. Did many of us sort of "attack" you for doing it? In a way yes, but you understand why. Please respect the wishes of the developers, and if you don't know there wishes....ask.
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@Gfosco it wasn't Anything personal towards you. You also could have simply pm'd me and we could have spoke about it. I closed it because it turned into pages and pages of bickering, trolling and flaming.....
Sorry for my short reply when I closed it. I was watching my kids also and was having a rough time writing also.
I totally agree with you on the pages of BS. And I'm getting pretty sick of seeing it in the dev section myself also. Trust me I'm gonna do all I can to help man.
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@joshkoss I have no issue with you closing the thread.. I would have closed it too.
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I don't think you get it: Did you in any way consult with, ask permission for or notify jt in any way about posting a link to HIS work on this forum? If the answer is yes and he ok'ed it, then I apologize and I will go back to minding my own business. However, I know this is not what happened. You didn't ask his permission in any way and therefore you stepped over the line. Now, is it a really big deal, no. But, many of us are friends with jt (as much as you can be through the internet), we spend a lot of time in IRC together. So, we know his wishes regarding HIS work and we respect that. He has stated in NO way does he want any of his work posted on xda. We would rather not have jt say fu** it and stop posting builds on the forums period because his wishes aren't being considered. That would screw over a lot of people like yourself (who donate to jt) and there would be NO links at all to post, like the one you posted. The conclusion: was what you did, in itself, wrong? No. But you did not ask his permission to post HIS intellectual property on this forum, and that my friend is wrong. Did many of us sort of "attack" you for doing it? In a way yes, but you understand why. Please respect the wishes of the developers, and if you don't know there wishes....ask.
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I don't need to ask permission from anyone to post a link to a thread on Rootzwiki.
Look, it doesn't make sense and I don't believe that JT is that fake-private about posting his work. (And I didn't post or re-share his ROM, only a link to Rootzwiki.) If it's public on Rootzwiki, why is anyone to think it's not straight up ****ing public?
Skynet! post that ****! I want to read what gfosco said!!!!
OK guys. I'm just gonna close the thread before things get to personal here.
Tomorrow morning ill b addressing this issue.
Peace, Josh
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