Can't get some apps to show in market - Galaxy S II General

Hey,
I'm running the cognition 2.3.4 rom and i have the newest market. One issue i have is i can't see some of the apps i have purchased in the market (Marine US east for example). I also can't find apps like onstar my link.
I've tried the market enablers to no avail.
Any tips would be great.
Thanks

Return to the older market version and use Market Enabler. I had the same problem with the new Market and solved it this way.

Backup build.prop
Open build.prop and change every line from 2.3.4 to 2.3.3 and XXKG1 to XWKE7. Save and reboot. Install desired appas then just restore build.prop

Unfortunately this looks like Google have tightened up on the region restrictions. I can no longer buy apps at all with the new market, or via the market.android.com.
From what I can tell, google is checking the country that your payment method is registered too, as opposed to the region that your phone is set to with MarketEnabler
I can still buy on my tab with the old market, anyone know if there is a way to block the update to the new market when Google decides to role it out?

I'm running 2.3.4 cognition rom and I could not even see Visidon applock that I read about on this forum, on 2.33 I could....very strange...fortunaly I found the apk here on the forum
Any fix for this so I can download everything?

I had the same problem with call recorder. I contacted killer mobiles who said it was a market problem. Market replied that the app had copy- protection thing on it. I contacted killer mobs again and they wanted my ime number and market purchase number to activate my app as bought. My app, before, did not show up as bought and I had to search for it and was shown as a trial. Perhaps you could ask the app makers is this the problem. This was with the old market. Also, the new market is in my opinion, bloatware; full of photos and such. I've gone over to 1mobile market which I find good. I did try to replace the new market with the old vending.apk but it kept changing back on a reboot.
Adrian.
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So i still could use some help with this problem
It seems no matter what rom (2.3.3 or 2.3.4) i can't get the Marine: US East app to show up. This also doesn't depend on the markt i'm using. I Just turned on my atrix, installed 2.3.4 on it and the market auto updated and sure enough the app showed up in the list.
Now i think this might be a location issue. I'm on AT&T here in the states, but i feel like maybe the phone thinks that i'm in europe or something(if that's possible).
If anyone has any tips i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks

mchimney said:
So i still could use some help with this problem
It seems no matter what rom (2.3.3 or 2.3.4) i can't get the Marine: US East app to show up. This also doesn't depend on the markt i'm using. I Just turned on my atrix, installed 2.3.4 on it and the market auto updated and sure enough the app showed up in the list.
Now i think this might be a location issue. I'm on AT&T here in the states, but i feel like maybe the phone thinks that i'm in europe or something(if that's possible).
If anyone has any tips i would greatly appreciate it!
Thanks
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Have the same problems with some of the custom roms. My solution us to restore the apps with titanium.
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reidar.ostrem said:
Have the same problems with some of the custom roms. My solution us to restore the apps with titanium.
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Even on stock on the stock rom i didn't even see the apps.

I just edited the build prop changing everything i could think that would mess with the market and i still can't get some things to show up

Well i thought i'd keep people updated on this cause it was driving me crazy.
I couldn't get Marine: US East to show up, so i emailed them. One of their suggestions was my market was blocking copy protected apps. So i googled that and found that google needs to update their fingerprint data base to allow specific phone firmwares to access it.
one way to tell if your phone can see copy protected apps is to search for "Topmarkettest" and if you see the copy protection app then that means you can see copy protected apps.
I solved this (as mentioned in an earlier post but apparently i'm a block of cheese) by just changing the fingerprint in the buildprop file.

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Market Access.

Yes. I did it.
I found a program that allows me to use Danish market on my android.
I don't now if this has already been postet, but here it is:
http://amip.org.ru/android/marketaccess
Have a nice weekend.
Benjamin
Why not just use "marketenabler" ?
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Market access is based on Market enabler, improved, without ads and so on. Just like Superuser 2.1 is to the old Superuser app as we all know.
Oh... I didn't know. Last time I tried to use marked enabler, it only worked on Android 1.5, hence the reason I thought I found something fantastic.
Marketenabler works just fine on everything above 1.5. But must say Market access seems a bit faster to set. It also for the nice feature to enble it on boot
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hmm, market enable worked but no set on boot and also no "top paid" tab, market access thinks that I do not have root!
Try the latest 1.0.6 version, root check has been improved. If the issue still remains, please post logcat.
Maybe I am missing something, but how does this app help if your country is not supported by Google Checkout yet?
is there a workaround for that?
I must say I have yet to have any problems switching betwean markets though. Just not sure how to actually buy apps using it...
My country Malaysia supports Google Checkout but no Paid apps, Market Access worked like a charm.
When using MarketEnable/Access, you need to kill the app and clear cache or else the market will not display paid apps.
Somehow, it stopped working recently, returning a SIM emulation error. Anyone else having this behavior?
Full list of mobile operator codes
The full list of mobile operator codes on wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_country_code
To get a code for use with MarketAccess combine both MCC and MNC.
Example: to set Vodafone Spain take MCC (214) + MNC(01) = 21401.

Market problems with new root?

Hi, I know I've read of other people having the same problem I'm having where there are apparently missing from the market. Has anyone found a solution?
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Which root method did you use? I had the market issues with the first couple of root versions, but my phone and the market are working perfectly now with the latest 3 step version. Im also using market enabler with no issues either. Would consider re-rooting with the newest method. Really doesnt take very long once you get used to it.
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I've used the latest R2B020 3 step method (with steps 4 and 5 for my Rogers X10a). Still can't find Pure Calendar Widget, or Tapatalk Pro. I should try enabler...
He's got a point.. There used to be an app before on the market called countouch launcher but somehow disappeared from mine!!
Everything else is perfect though.. removed alot of the built in apps and it runs smooth as ever for me
All thanx to the geniuses who rooted this phone!!
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There is a problem because of the region the firmware's from.
I got market enabler, but there's some apps I want that I still don't see in the market
If anyone knows how to configure market enabler to allow stuff from rogers (canada) that'd be great
adrianoftyriel said:
Hi, I know I've read of other people having the same problem I'm having where there are apparently missing from the market. Has anyone found a solution?
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Yeah, got the same issues with my X10a. Market enabler app is quite simple really. all it does is use the MCC MNC codes (see wikipedia) for you mobile operator and sets them in some config files (see the wiki on market enabler project hosting website).
There is something much deeper going on here. I had purchased UltimateJuice before rooting with the crappy Japanese Firmware and market was able to find it after the root as well. But, this time around with the R2BA020 firmware... not quite so.
I wrote to the developer of UltimateJuice and he mentioned that Android Market terms forbid some access to rooted/custom firmwares. Personally I don't see how how Google manages to enforce that.
There is certainly some way in which we can tweak around the settings somewhere to make Android Market realize that we are legit. I mean look at brut.all's google navigation hack...
EDIT: I did try almost all the market enabler settings but didn't manage to to see my app. The developer told me that he had create a version specifically for that situation (its called UltimateJuice (Alternate))... lacking more details, I dont know what that means...
Interesting... I don't think root has anything to do with it though because I have been missing these Alps since I flashed r2ba020 originally (the telenor one).
I too can confirm that market enabler does not work. What I'm wondering is if Google is limiting the apps in some way because the firmware us new.
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I think it's some kind of market bug. I had the same when I debranded from 1.0.14 o2 to 1.0.16 generic.
After some weeks everything worked fine again. So I think google has to unlock new firmware for their market ?!?
Make sure you system kill (with taskpanel etc) the market after you make changes with market enabler. Maybe obvious, but some may forget.a
i'm having almost the same problem, i tried download the market enabler and and tried to view in market for paid software but cant see any also, i used appbrain i can see a few only but not much at all
I'm also having some problems with the market, before root I had an app called myplayer which was a bbc iplayer app.
Can anyone else who is in the UK check the market to see if you can find this app?
dink-x10 said:
I'm also having some problems with the market, before root I had an app called myplayer which was a bbc iplayer app.
Can anyone else who is in the UK check the market to see if you can find this app?
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I believe this is dependent on the firmware region that you use to root the device. The myPlayer app is restricted to the UK only, so if the firmware is not officially recognised as a UK build you will not be able to see the app on the Android Market.
-Fry
dink-x10 said:
I'm also having some problems with the market, before root I had an app called myplayer which was a bbc iplayer app.
Can anyone else who is in the UK check the market to see if you can find this app?
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I am on UK branded O2 firmware R1FA016 and I can see the myplayer app in the market.
I am not rooted.
indesisiv said:
I am on UK branded O2 firmware R1FA016 and I can see the myplayer app in the market.
I am not rooted.
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Thanks a lot for checking mate.
I have now installed Market Enabler, according to it I was already identifying as Orange UK (234-33). I have tried all other UK network codes and still cannot see the myplayer app.
Does anyone have a link to the .apk file so I can bypass the market altogther?
Issues
I am another proud owner of a rooted x10a (now x10i)
But I got problems, I cannot sent MMS with the rooted phone, it just looks like im missing an app because, but i don't know where to find it, and I have the right APNs. So if someone can help us out with this issue I'll will be very grateful.
Also timescape is missging the facebook and tweeter plug-ins :-S
You guys are my best shot
Now, this is interesting to me. I tried to do the rooting option, but I got stuck on step 2, which couldn't find my device. So I used SEUS to update, and it let me update to R2BA020. I assumed that, coming through SEUS, this would be an official, unrooted update, as if I was going back to the default (although it came on O2 in the UK with the R_whateveritwas_016 firmware). I didn't like the idea that a rooted phone caused a few issues anyway, but the R2BA020 update has made a HUGE difference to my battery life.
Then I noticed that the O2 branding had gone - not much, just O2 updates in Timescape that I didn't want anyway...
But I noticed that my lovely Death Star Clock was no longer in the market, and MyPlayer also has gone...
Dang... so it seems like my phone no longer thinks I am in the UK or something.
I've got Beebplayer though, which I preferred to MyPlayer anyway.
But, it's a bugger... I LOVED my Death Star clock!

New Android Market Website

So it's finally out. What do you guys think? Is this the end of Appbrain? I loved appbrain cause I can browse the apps on the website and then just click install from there and it will automatically install on the phone. Now this can do it too!
The biggest upside to this? You can install (after you pay) "in-app" purchase app from the website. e.g. you can install the NBA League Pass from the website directly. Any other features I missed?
This is from Google themselves, not me.
https://market.android.com/
Cool. I like it.
I never really got into appbrain, because it still involved that extra step of opening the application itself.. and blah.. I think, I can't even remember. It just seemed tedious at the time to go onto the computer when it was quicker on my phone.
Then when Google does it, I'm all over it. I have been installing random applications just to install them. Why is this so awesome?!
I played with it for a while now and everything seems to be working well. I guess I can save some space by uninstalling appbrain and use this instead.
sweet jesus!
I'm like'n it...good stuff!
The automatic OTA install is working to my N1 and my Galaxy Tab now, it wasn't earlier this morning.
Works well!
With this new website comes another big change that will happen in the 3rd quarter of this year: NO MORE "LITE" version apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-the-market-prior-to-the-end-of-this-quarter/
safeplayer22 said:
With this new website comes another big change that will happen in the 3rd quarter of this year: NO MORE "LITE" version apps.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-the-market-prior-to-the-end-of-this-quarter/
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That's actually a good thing. You download the "free" application, and then if you decide to unlock it you buy the key from within the app rather than a separate unlocker application, or having the market cluttered with 2 separate versions.
Sounds like a plan!
The in-app purchasing as a general concept I'm not a massive fan off as it has the potential to lead to nickle & diming, primarily for games, but if used responsibly it should be good.
Wow, about time. Glad to see it's finally here.
now all they need to do is let you backup your app data. I dont want to lose my angry birds scores everytime i switch roms and forget to back it up with titamium backup
Well, I don't suppose there's a way for Market Enabler to work on the website?
It lists paid apps from all over the world, but it knows your phone's carrier and will prevent installs if your country does not support it..
I guess it's back to Market Enabler on the phone.
Anyone else having trouble actually buying apps from the website? Installing free apps works like a charm, but trying to purchase and install paid apps doesn't work. I press continue and _nothing_ happens.
running CM7 nightlies and the OTA installs are not working...
According to the website, you need to be logged into GTalk, only my GTalk won't log in. GTalk also appears to be missing from the market, so the problem may be on their end...
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Doesn't work for me, it's been years and Android Market still doesn't support Google Apps accounts for Checkout. Although I can login, no devices are listed under "my devices" on market.android.com
I'm running CM7 Nightlies as well, I'm a few behind though, and I'm always logged into GTalk and the OTA's are not working for me either.
It's not working here on MM v.20. I've tried installing several apps but nothing happens on the phone end, the GTalk solution they give also doesn't help. Weird thing is they all show up on my app list as completed when none of them have actually installed.
Hollow.Droid said:
It's not working here on MM v.20. I've tried installing several apps but nothing happens on the phone end, the GTalk solution they give also doesn't help. Weird thing is they all show up on my app list as completed when none of them have actually installed.
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I'm having the same issue. I'm running CM6.1 kangorama's version and the install says it has worked on the website, but nothing changes on the phone itself.
I'm wondering if it has to do with it being a rooted device without a stock rom?
bjonesy77 said:
I'm having the same issue. I'm running CM6.1 kangorama's version and the install says it has worked on the website, but nothing changes on the phone itself.
I'm wondering if it has to do with it being a rooted device without a stock rom?
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I'm betting that someone is going to have to create a Web App Store Enabler or something along those lines for this to work on rooted phones or phones without stock ROM's.

[Q] New Market and FC

Hello!
New Market on motorola Xoom Wi-fi every time I want to upgrade giving me FC. I don't know how to fix it. Tried to delete upgrade install on the Application but it is upgrading by itself. Tried to clear the cash, clear data.
Nothing helps.
Please, who know how to fix this problem? Looks like new Market doesn't work on Honeycomb.
Guys, help me, please? I really need your advice?
Thank you!
What market version do you have?
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If you have Documents to Go installed, remove it. It has a problem with the manifest and Dataviz needs to update it, you can use the version from their website in the interim.
Or grab today's free Amazon Apps, Quick Office and Quick Office HD.
Tried everything. Market. 3.1.6, market 3.3.1.1 or something like that, all of them giving me fc.
Guys, please, I need a solution. Can somebody give some advice, please? Or maybe somebody have old mafket app flashable trough cwm? Because google doing nothing for honeycomb.
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The problem is almost certainly related to an installed app, if you don't have Documents to Go installed, started removing apps one at a time until the market begins working properly and report back when you identify the offending app.
I had a thread for the same thing a page or so back.
documents to go didnt seem to cause me much grief (but i removed it anyway), but i did have a problem with Enhanced Email FCing the market (which i also ended up removing on the xoom, working fine on the desire).
noticed my market updated itself to 3.3.1.1 (or similar) the other night too - same problems as the last version.
just waiting for ICS update now and will see if that fixes stuff - I imagine it will and/or devs will update their apps to ICS
Do you have apps that you side loaded that the market reported as not compatible? I get the market FC any time one of my side loaded apps tries to update.
I found that it was a certain alternative market that caused me to "loose" all of my apps... I thought that it was the new market and even went back to the moray 2.2.1 to have the old market.
I figured out it was that other market because I uninstalled it and bingo, I had my apps...
I was pretty stupid and used titanium backup to "force" the market links and ended up with one heck of a messed up android market.... Now I am working through that..
Uninstalled the app called "Download all files" and sims like everything working for now.
Thank you very much!
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actually i think i had getjar on there... that's missing from the supermarché now - I wonder if that was the issue
i was also guessing that by the time ICS hits the xoom - and all the devs update their apps for that most of this issue should go away
FWIW, I had the exact same problem I uninstalled Enhanced Email and the problem went away. Too bad, I really like Enhanced Email!
ebamit said:
FWIW, I had the exact same problem I uninstalled Enhanced Email and the problem went away. Too bad, I really like Enhanced Email!
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I'm sure it'll be fixed soon . Dev is good at updates
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App to *possibly* fix the blank my apps list issue

Hi all,
I have a Bell Atrix and I always have the blank my apps list issue with any Blur based Gingerbread ROMs. I found that removing the Preset app fixed my problem. So I put a small app together to scan the market database to compare the list of market recognised installed apps to the available apps in the market. Users can then remove apps and the market association in the market database.
If possible, can I please have someone to help me test this app? Also, I'd imagine this app should work with any gingerbread running phones with the same problem.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kstudio.marketfixer
Steps:
1) nandroid backup then start the app
2) Click on Load Market Data (and wait for it to finish)
3) If the app found anything, it will be added to the list
4) Select apps from the list and click on "Del Checked Entry" to delete them
5) Uninstall window will show for the selected apps, click on Uninstall
6) Open the market again, wait a bit and see if the list shows.
Thanks!!
Update1:
I found that Android Market, when starting from scratch (after deleting all the app data), downloads a list of all the apps you have ever associated to your account. If you have ever used TiBu (or the like) to associate apps you shouldn't have associated to the market, and still have the app installed, you will start to have the market problem after wipe.
Update2:
I believe the version 3.5.15 market has made this app obsolete. You can find the download link in the post below
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-google-play-store-apk-3-5-15/
Update3:
Uploaded version 2.0.0, for anyone still wanting to remove market links in the new market.
ken218 said:
Hi all,
I have a Bell Atrix and I always have the blank my apps list issue with any Blur based Gingerbread ROMs. I found that removing the Preset app fixed my problem. So I put a small app together to scan the market database to compare the list of market recognised installed apps to the available apps in the market. Users can then remove apps and the market association in the market database.
If possible, can I please have someone to help me test this app? Also, I'd imagine this app should work with any gingerbread running phones with the same problem.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.kstudio.marketfixer
Steps:
1) nandroid backup then start the app
2) Click on Load Market Data (and wait for it to finish)
3) If the app found anything, it will be added to the list
4) Select apps from the list and click on "Del Checked Entry" to delete them
5) Uninstall window will show for the selected apps, click on Uninstall
6) Open the market again, wait a bit and see if the list shows.
Thanks!!
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Worked as stated. Nice to have this feature back. Thank you for your work and sharing.
Glad to hear this is working! cheers!
Ken218, thank you for this app.
After I ran "Load market data," a bunch of apps (meaning way more than I'd like to count) showed in the list, but nothing was checked.
Expected?
If so, how do I identify troublemakers from the list?
This is on a Sprint Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch, running Calkulin's ROM, v2.8.1.
Thank you again.
Holy s***! This works! Thank you!!
There were three apps found, none were checked, so checked them and uninstalled them, market working perfect now! You rock!
Oh and this works on stock ICS 4.0.2 (galaxy nexus gsm) so you can add this to your compatibility list.
Need to sticky this in every device forum.
Thanks again!!
holy sheep **** you are a mad genius this worked for me i have a rooted unlocked motorola photon running rocko rom joker kernel and a fistful of tweaks and my apps are listed again in the market major thanks for this
you will need to manually check every app... I will add a "select all" to the list when I update the app.
Genius........that works perfect on ICS 4.0.3 rooted Iconia 500.
I then reinstall the delete apps.
Thank you so much
I had com.motorola.contacts.preloaded as faulty app. Maybe market acts sensitively when using AT&T-Rom on INT'L Atrix in non-default locale.
Wow, thank you very much. I had tried everything before this to fix this problem, and had given up on seeing it working again.
Well done.
Fixed on my Galaxy SII
sxg75 said:
I had com.motorola.contacts.preloaded as faulty app. Maybe market acts sensitively when using AT&T-Rom on INT'L Atrix in non-default locale.
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I tried the UK retail sbf and still had the same problem on com.motorola.contacts.preloaded...
Thank you so much for this! This has annoyed me to no end for months and it's finally fixed!
On more thing. Is there any way to get the market to stop showing apps from Amazon's AppStore as "Purchased" in the market? There's a few I've gotten from the Free App of the Day that I'd like to purchase on the Android Market but am unable to because it says "Install" instead of "Purchase". When I go to install them it says something like "Cannot install because you haven't purchased it." Thanks again!
sanitarium09 said:
Thank you so much for this! This has annoyed me to no end for months and it's finally fixed!
On more thing. Is there any way to get the market to stop showing apps from Amazon's AppStore as "Purchased" in the market? There's a few I've gotten from the Free App of the Day that I'd like to purchase on the Android Market but am unable to because it says "Install" instead of "Purchase". When I go to install them it says something like "Cannot install because you haven't purchased it." Thanks again!
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Uninstall the app
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msd24200 said:
Uninstall the app
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That doesn't work. It registers the app as purchased. Same thing happens with cracked apps. If you installed one and upgraded to the latest market, you'll never be able to purchase the app again off the android market.
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sanitarium09 said:
Thank you so much for this! This has annoyed me to no end for months and it's finally fixed!
On more thing. Is there any way to get the market to stop showing apps from Amazon's AppStore as "Purchased" in the market? There's a few I've gotten from the Free App of the Day that I'd like to purchase on the Android Market but am unable to because it says "Install" instead of "Purchase". When I go to install them it says something like "Cannot install because you haven't purchased it." Thanks again!
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There is a workaround, but it involves some messing around:
1) Uninstall targetted app
2) Freeze market auto-upater
3) Downgrade your market to 2.2.6, run market
4) search for chosen app (Don't go to my apps, that doesn't seem to work anymore)
5) buy app
6) restore new market...
7) ???????
8) Profit!
Ken you should add some cache feature.
I've deleted apps one by one to find the trobulemaker, but after every uninstall I've had to rescan again - with <10 apps it doesn't take too much time, but if search results can be stored within MarketFixer it'd speed up the whole process
EDIT: Thank You very much, market fixed (at least for a while )
ken218 said:
you will need to manually check every app...
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There are a lot of things in my list which are part of my ROM (Keis Air, for example).
There are also many Android Market apps for which a Market Search turns up no hits (Super Froggy and Twidroyd Pro). I guess these apps have been retired....?
At any rate there are probably 4 dozen things in my scanned list, and I'm nervous about whacking them. Any advice, sir?
xpanmanx said:
There are a lot of things in my list which are part of my ROM (Keis Air, for example).
There are also many Android Market apps for which a Market Search turns up no hits (Super Froggy and Twidroyd Pro). I guess these apps have been retired....?
At any rate there are probably 4 dozen things in my scanned list, and I'm nervous about whacking them. Any advice, sir?
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I'd assume you used TiBu to fix market link? Because components formed part of the ROM (Certificate Installer, Cell broadcast, etc) won't be attached to the market.
I'd say wipe the market and let it rebuild its database first (by starting the market app and let it sync/download all the things automatically).
Like you said, it is possible that some of the apps you have are retired. Also, during my tests, I found some apps where the developer decided to change the package name (xe currency) so the market became broken (doesn't cause the blank market problem though).
In the case of Atrix (and possibly other motorola devices), removing "Preset" is all its needed to fix the market.
[email protected] said:
Ken you should add some cache feature.
I've deleted apps one by one to find the trobulemaker, but after every uninstall I've had to rescan again - with <10 apps it doesn't take too much time, but if search results can be stored within MarketFixer it'd speed up the whole process
EDIT: Thank You very much, market fixed (at least for a while )
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Hi metk, Thanks for the advice, will retain the initial search result in the next version glad this works for you.
Holy ****, i could kiss you. In a totally heterosexual way.
Excellent work my friend! This has been bugging the hell put of me for days! Thanks pal.
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