[Q] Missing fifth row with numbers on keyboard - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi,
I am a user of DesireZ for three months, after 2 years with G1, and so far I found it...even depressing (sic!), that the keyboard has no numbers row but only the combination of Fn + key.
How do you find it ? Any extra method of typing IP numbers for example ? or numbers with spaces e.g. +48 123 456 789 ? Please tell I me I get used to use it
Solution for me would be, and this is a question, there is a way to map two programmable keys to "space" and "comma". Possible ?
Cheers,
Whatlogin

I was a migrant from the g1 as well and found it hard to get used to at first. It isn't all that bad though considering you can press the fn key twice in succession and then the top row will work as a numbers row rather than letters. Apart from that, I don't have a solution sorry

I think I remember someone posting an apk in here that would show numbers row at the bottom of a screen as soon as you'd pulled out the keyboard in 'txt writing mode'. Mind you, it was way back in dec or jan... Try search?
I used to have it but it didn't work for me as I seem to remember it required root (I don't have that yet)
See if you find it, good luck
edit: I did find the file in my fone (!)
I take no credit for it nor responsibility whatsoever!!!
Sadly, I do not know who made that either (to credit them) but here it is...
good luck

Wow! TA for replies.
@HAK Devil: I know, but permanent Fn switch the "space" to XT9 and "." to ":"
@wolek76: this is exactly something that could sort out my needs. I should have been looking for G2 rather than DesireZ
Anyway - here is the thread regarding to whole idea and developer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813742
I haven't have a chance to have it working yet - but good to know I am not alone
Regards,
Whatlogin

You should keep your G1 as a backup phone incase the DZ goes wrong and you end up having to send it back for repairs. After 7 months the touchscreen on my old DZ kept sticking in one particular place and HTCs idea of "fixing it" was to kill 1/3 o fthe touchscreen, which was really annoying so after a month of heavy duty legal pressure (thanks to my partner), they coughed up a replacement.
Short version: I wouldn't ditch the rock solid G1 if I were you, it'll one day come in handy.

Hey I tried installing this and it wouldn't show up at all. Enabled it in keyboard settings, fixed permissions; nothing worked.
Has anybody gotten this to work? And have there been any updates on it?

One of the biggest probs I've had with this phone was the 5th number row. You do eventually get used to it, for the most part lol.
What keys did you have in mind for the swap?
Also, I think you may need root for this method to work. Are you rooted?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App

Even my old Nokia E70 had better keyboard than Vision/Desire Z has. That is so sad :-(

imsayintho said:
Hey I tried installing this and it wouldn't show up at all. Enabled it in keyboard settings, fixed permissions; nothing worked.
Has anybody gotten this to work? And have there been any updates on it?
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It did not work with me as well, thought when it got updated to 2.3.3 it actually started working no problem. Still there is a problem with Fn and 'shift' keys. I have no root and I haven't change anything to my phone apart from allowing installations from other sources.
Regards

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One of the biggest probs I've had with this phone was the 5th number row. You do eventually get used to it, for the most part lol.
What keys did you have in mind for the swap?
Also, I think you may need root for this method to work. Are you rooted?
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Hi,
I am not rooted and as I mentioned - this does not work yet well. Check out also the thread I listed above. It is still being under development.
The two keys I was thinking about was the programmable keys that can be used for apps and so on.
I know I will get used to it. The easiest is type everything and come back to paste special symbols I guess like "ftp19216811://..." ha ha Maybe HTC want to make people stop writing like U2, sk8 is gr8, 4me and use proper language
Cheers!

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Is there way to add a sound to the opening of the keyboard?

Well the topic says it all.
I want to add a sound to the opening and/or closing of the keyboard.
Is this possible?
Thanks
Any hacks for this? I suppose that the opening of the keyboard calls some kind of an event (since sliding it open changes the screen orientation) So can this same event call be used to assign a sound as well?
I also want to kno this and was going to ask right before I came 2 see this link...so please answer!
There are some really talented people here. I would have thought someone would have done this by now. But I assume, from lack of info, that this hasn't been considered before?
Would someone, who has the skill set to do this, consider looking into it and seeing if it is possible?
Thanks a million!!
Have a good one
Try this thread.....
Cheers!
That thread refers to the Herald, or Tmobile Wing. I found this thread and thats all I've been able to find for the Wizard or Tmobile MDA.
There may be a registry key that needs to be modified/added after installing the HTC Sliding Sounds application to make it 'active' for the Wizard.
Any ideas?
Im trying to figure it out too.. I dunno how to get it to initiate...
Need someone with the Herald (T-Mobile Wing) to help
Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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Under HKEY\LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SlidingSound there are 2 keys 'ActiveSlidingSound' and 'SlidingSoundEffect', these are for setting which sound of the 3 available to use, I'm assuming.
Anyone out there know someone with a Herald or T-Mobile Wing that is willing to share what they have in this folder in their registry?? Maybe there's and EnableSound key or something to that effect that us Wizard users can add and we'll have a happy day!
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
I installed the software that was made by JUVS....it does not work on my MDA.
Any other ideas? I had tried searching before I made this thread initially, and i had not seen the 2 that are discussed here. I apologize for having made a 3rd one.
Back on topic, I certainly hope this can be made to work. Any other ideas?
Thanks for all the info so far.
Later
this is a really cool idea, i would also like to know how to do it...
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I just checked mine and under SlidingSound, there are 3 folders... 0, 1, and 2. Each folder has 3 keys... Default, in, and out. "Default" is the name for the sounds (ex: Wind Chimes, Piano, and Xylophone), "in" is the location of the file used for when the keyboard slides in (ex: Slider0_in.wav), and the same applies to "out" for when the keyboard slides out (ex: Slider0_out.wav).
Also inside the SlidingSound folder are 2 more keys... ActiveSlidingSound and SlidingSoundEffect. ActiveSlidingSound refers to which sliding sound you want to use... so in this case it would be one of the 3 folders mentioned above (0,1, or 2). SlidingSoundEffect refers to whether or not you want the sliding sound on. (0 = off, 1 = on).
Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much! This does help!
Unfortunately, I have the same keys on my MDA after installing the application for the SlidingSounds and it doesn't make sounds when I open the keyboard physically. I'm suspecting that the MDA is missing something, possibly a hardware switch (don't think so, though, cause it has to detect when the keyboard opens for landscape mode).
My guess is that this will not work on the MDA
Umfortunately I'm not a programmer, but I was thinking that the easiest way to get somethig like this to work would be to link the sound to play with the screen rotation instead of trying to get it to work when the keyboard is slid out which obviously isn't working anyway. It would play the sound if you rotated your screen manually, but I can't see why that would be a big deal. Maybe someone with a little programming knowledge could get this to work though.
I wanna keep this thread alive. SlidingSounds is something i wanna see work for wizards. It'll be cool if someone could craft a workaround or a new prog altogether.
Opening the keyboard is an event, shouldn't be hard to craft something to have it make a sound.
Any updates on this? I downloaded the app and it hasn't done anything, especially when messing with the registry. Thanks.
I've been working on tis as well but it seems that there is no way to adjust the registry to get it to work. I believe a app is gonna have to get the wizard to have this feature.
This would be so cool.. Alot of people have 'flip' style phones, and when they open them, they have some funny sounds. Would be great to have on the Wizard!
Anybody figured this out yet? I'm really sure it can be done.
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
Bells and Whistles.
ndn715 said:
im all about hacks for the wizard, but...
im assuming that you saw a wing and are trying to duplicate it...
WHY would you want it to do this?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
same question for the menu pop sound?
those are the most annoying things i've seen on phone... well except for the default startup and shutdown sounds on all retail phones... when you turn off your phone, isnt because you're somewhere that you should be sure it wont be ringing/vibrating?
but on the other hand i still can't understand why people like to have the keys beep on their regular cell phones when they are txting...
sorry for the rant... i just don't get it
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Maybe because we love the bells and whistles a gadget can make, it's all about your custom love that you want to have, not just everyone's universal preference. Some of us love to customize our phones to suit our personality, not just YOURS. Maybe these sounds grab attention of chicks, maybe this wallpaper makes us look cool in the sight of geeks. It's all personal prereference.
That's why I want keyboard Sliding Sounds to work. It's just one more thing that will grab the attention of people to see that, yes, I don't need a new phone every six months or so. I can make a new one using an old one by utilizing hacks.

X7510 Keyboard - does it fit the X7500

Anyone know if the new keyboard that comes with the updated X7510 will fit and connect to the original HTC Advantage. If it does, I wonder if they might sell it as an accesorie for the original owners.
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Anyone know if the new keyboard that comes with the updated X7510 will fit and connect to the original HTC Advantage. If it does, I wonder if they might sell it as an accesorie for the original owners.
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I doubt they will be for sale, but not sure if it will fit. I say I doubt this because they don't sell the X7500's now, unless you're lucky to buy parts on ebay or something like that. I really do need a new Keyboard for my as the view display's become a bit scratched. On the new one I would just put clear scotch tape on it before I start using it.
I am pretty sure i saw a link to a shop that sell the silver keyboard around these forums,do not ask me where, just came across it, no sure about the black one though, Ill love that parts were more available I'm after a touch pad myself.
Yes, I did the scotch tape thing as well (I noticed the clear plastic getting really scuffed very quickly) seems to be working ok so far.
Cheers
BR
I think the display is smaller on the new Keyboard, than they are on the X7500's but as far as connectivity I don't know if they are similar. I myself could use a new keyboard too.
im 99% sure they will fit. not sure if it will completely work though. the display is a bit smaller since the edges serve no function so they decided not to make it long but instead just have the plastic/glass the size of the screen.
the devices are the same size and dimensions so the size of the keyboard will be the same. connector should also be the same too so i'd say itll all work with just a few mods to the rom so it uses the mapping of the new keyboard.
I've already written and emailed htc a couple of times, suggesting they sell the new keyboards or at least the old ones for replacements. My main argument is that its a given the keyboard, if used, will wear out before the device. Surely, as expensive as our athenas are, they don't actually expect one to buy an x7510 just to replace the keyboard. Haven't heard from them, its been over a month, but what can you do? I would suggest others to at least send them an email. I don't know their thoughts, but it doesn't seem that this would hurt their business any. It would take a fool to buy the x7510 over nothing but a worn-out keyboard.
On a side note, my dollar sign now religiously inputs an underscore. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or know what might cause this?
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I've already written and emailed htc a couple of times, suggesting they sell the new keyboards or at least the old ones for replacements. My main argument is that its a given the keyboard, if used, will wear out before the device. Surely, as expensive as our athenas are, they don't actually expect one to buy an x7510 just to replace the keyboard. Haven't heard from them, its been over a month, but what can you do? I would suggest others to at least send them an email. I don't know their thoughts, but it doesn't seem that this would hurt their business any. It would take a fool to buy the x7510 over nothing but a worn-out keyboard.
On a side note, my dollar sign now religiously inputs an underscore. Anyone else experiencing this issue, or know what might cause this?
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if the x7500 has the keyboard out then the x7510 should have its keyboard available sooner or later. im sure a few will still ditch the new keyboard and we can buy it off them.
list of advantages for the 7510 keyboard?
Does anyone have a complete list of benefits for using the new keyboard on our old system? or any possible word on getting a backlit version for our future?
v/r
Bob
does it work
hate to bring up an old topic but im rather interested if anyone has tested using an x7510 keyboard on a x7501?
and if so, is there anywhere i can buy just the x7510 keyboard.
thanx
It will fit, but sorry, it won't work.
fair enough
thanx for the update
i might sell my 7510 keyboard, if i find no use for it
since i can type directy into the LCD screen itself
I plan to use the 7510 plain without the keyboard, and customizing it for full finger touch much like the iphone but waaaaaay better.
well if you sell the X7510 keyboard i'm interrested
it is working
PashaK said:
hate to bring up an old topic but im rather interested if anyone has tested using an x7510 keyboard on a x7501?
and if so, is there anywhere i can buy just the x7510 keyboard.
thanx
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Looks a bit strange to me what cktlcmd is writing above.
I just got a new X7510 for testing and the new keyboard is working quite well with my old X7500 ... say out of the box.
Measures are just the same and fits like the old one.
The touch vibration feedback is also functional.
Letters and most command keys as they are on the old keyboard, work quite well. For the rest you'll have to remember the strange key positioning from the old days of X7500
To fix this, I think only thing you'll have to do is change some system setting due to the different key mapping.
Then this threat may be the one to start with:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323790
To look at : 2. Redefining the layout of the built-in hardware keyboard (thumbboard)
I've not done something of this kind yet but will take a further look at it in next time.
To compare with cktlcmd, I have an original WM6 german ROM. May X7500/X7501 make a difference? I don't think so.
so long
mashbone said:
Looks a bit strange to me what cktlcmd is writing above.
To compare with cktlcmd, I have an original WM6 german ROM. May X7500/X7501 make a difference? I don't think so.
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How can it be working for you when there is a dedicated number row in the X7510?
You mentioned a thread for reassigning some buttons, then it's not working well. If to you that is functional, well to me that is crap.
works good with MagicKB lite, for full use wait the driver and kernel patches
Yes, you are right. I had not tested so far. Remapping wont do it all since there are still buttons which are not recocnized by the system.
These includes the whole number row on top as well as the "Caps", "Sym" and "Message" key.
Also "/" is a hardware button for the left screen function key, so you can not use it for something else.
But:
I found the nifty programm MagicKB lite which adds the abbility to handle different kinds of keystrokes. You can additionally add key functions by double klicking the key and hold the key. Time delay can be set individually.
That means you can put the whole number row one step down saying holding the key means the number above and double klicking the key means the special character above.
For example holding down "Tab" results in "1", "Q" results in "2", "W" results in "3" usw.
Similary double klick "Tab" to get "!" usw.
In addition
+you wont need "Caps" since you can also use "Fn+Shift"
+you wont need "Message" since it is same used with "SMS/MMS"
+you wont need "Sym" since it is same used with "Fn+Space"
It might be useful to leave the hold function for "backspace" blanc and map "Fn+Backspace" instead. Who needs "Del"? And so you are still able to erase multiple characters with holding "backspace".
However, it may also not work for all apps. I found the telephone app does not recognize the numbers typed this way
But all in all it is still a good alternative to the old fashioned keypad
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For development:
MagicKB lite is also usefull since it has ability to get the key codes for almost every key on the device including hardware keys (except power button) and has also a list of every predefined codes.
With this you could map every key to everything.
But since they more often use macro codes with a multiplier 0x10 it's not usefull to use it for key mapping, because it's not able to map those macro codes however.
But the real surprising comes when getting the codes for the hardware buttons since most are macro versions and they are all linked to each other in a certain manner.
Now I have coincidentally count the number of keys from each keyboard.
The new one has 7 keys more then the old one.
That's exactly the number of missing hardware buttons in the new X7510 version.
Maybe there's a greater meaning behind the missing hardware buttons and they sacrificed it in order for the new keyboard
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Maybe there's a greater meaning behind the missing hardware buttons and they sacrificed it in order for the new keyboard
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yes, the Xscale processor has only so many GPIO's.
(also, even if it has some spare free GPIO's, I'm not sure HTC wanted any extra trouble of getting those to work)
yes, htc stupidly hooked all the keys and buttons up to GPIOs instead of abstracting them via some proper solution

HTC HD2 Keyboard is KILLING ME!

I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC - and they've got a lot of brain damaged products to show for.
For one, that IDIOTIC keyboard they got built in there NEVER,EVER lets me finish what I'm typing.
IT allways(!) ends up "correcting me" in mid word and 99% of the time, it corrects it wrongly.
It simply exchanges one letter for another and I'm sure is darn proud of itself while doing it.
And no, I already tried disabling "auto-correction" in the device input options, and it doesn't change a thing.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?!
Then try TouchPal Pro. But for me, I prefer HD2 native keyboard. The T9 mode is useful.
I'd recommend calibrating the screen (with your thumbs, as if you're using the phone), and just slow down and get used to it. It does take a while, but I can type very fast with it now and very rarely make mistakes. The keyboard takes a lot of practice, but is worth it.
I have T9 mode on and auto-correct off. I like to have suggestions, but don't like it forcing words on me. It usually gives me the correct word by the time I'm half way through typing it, so this obviously speeds up typing.
Incidentally, T9 rather eerily learns how you type. It seems to adapt to your typing style as you go along, so stick with it, or just turn it off completely if you want no suggestions at all.
Deactivate T9 on the keyboard.
I didn't feel happy with the original keyboard, too.
Tried Resco keyboard 5.23.
Now i have a better accuracy.
If you must do the tap tap thing... Touchpal 4.0.... however, I find that Swype is the best and really really fast.... it's almost like magic...
Yes... turn off T9....
HTC HD2 Keyboard is KILLING ME!
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
Dont run just yet
You shouldnt need to change ur keyboard... i tried Swipe and i think its really good but still can use the HTC at top speed with T9 and correction on
Things to try first
1.Recalibrate
2.Install 3.3 Cab from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
3 if you dont want to reduce sensitivity just add a screen protector takes away about 3-5% of sensitiveness
Thats all I have done and i dont dread sending texts anymore
Hope this helps
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
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Your heart warming reply was so (not) helpful that it makes me appreciate the other responses which contain actual hints - rather than mindless insults - that much more.
Thanks once more (for nothing)
And by the way, I specifically stated that I did not want *anything* to be auto corrected - as I can correct myself a lot faster if I don't have to correct the keyboard first all the time.
Sorry, but there are countless threads about the keyboard. If you're not able to search before you open another one, then it's your fault if you get resposes like this.
Same for your stupid thread title. Make a proper thread title, use the search and you won't get such responses.
And if you disable T9 and autocorrection, then it won't correct you. If you're still not able to type, then it's your fault. It doesn't exchange letters just for fun. It's you pressing the wrong keys.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?![/QUOTE]
Try the Swype keyboard!
See that T9 switch at the left of the keyboard? Press it. Problem gone.
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...I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC -This is just a moronic design!!!!
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Understand your anger and frustration if the you are not getting on with the device but a couple of points:
- There are a lot of people (not all) who are happy with their device and have found solutions to the keyboard issue (some suggestions in this thread) so the problem might be your technique perhaps?
- Also, given that you spent nearly $1K on this device, did you not test one out thoroughly first BEFORE buying it? I can't see anyone being silly enough to spend that amount of money on anything, whether its a phone or a vehicle, before checking it out first?
Really interested in your answer to the 2nd question in particular.
Hopefully with the help you have been given here so far and if you take your time you will eventually be able to work with the device. I don't have the issues you have but where I have not been comfortable, adopting a solution off XDA, having searched first, has worked for me.
WB
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I recommend to use Swype.
die and prove it
superplayboy said:
die and prove it
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Way to go making friends on the forum superplayboy.
kengkaj.s said:
I recommend to use Swype.
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I totally agree with this. Whilst I don't hate the original keyboard I did find it a touch fiddly. Swype is fantastic IMO' a great idea and so easy to use.
I can sympathise with the frustrations here. I like using auto correct and am very familiar with all of HTCs onscreen keyboards, along with those of the omnia i8000, Galaxy and iPhone and I must say that although the HD2 keyboard isn't the WORST, it can be most frustrating, particularly when you need to type out a quick text. most of my problems stem from what seems to be poor prediction algorithms. let me say that I am no Apple fanboy, but this keyboard has a long way to go to be as excellent as that of the iPhone: often on here if I get ONE letter wrong at the start of the word it will be incapable of understanding what I'm trying to type, whereas if I get a letter wrong somewhere in the middle it'll be fine. another problem I have is that sometimes when sending an sms the cursor will magically jump to the top of the text and I will unwittingly start typing over the start of my initial sentence. Also if I go to delete a number of letters often the keyboard will have a fit and start throwing letters and paragraphs everywhere. I accept that this is probably my finger not being 100 percent accurate but surely it is also a sign that the keyboard is just TOO SENSITIVE, even with the patch installed. I never had this problem on the Hero, nor the iPhone - both of which have vastly smaller screens.
lastly i'd like that t9 button moved as its just TOO easy to catch without realising.
I accept that some people on here don't seem to have any problem, but perhaps you guys are too forgiving, and sometimes it takes a bit of a whine and moan to get things fixed. Like I said, I'm very familiar with onscreen keyboards and accept that there is a certain learning curve to all of them, but after nearly two months with a HD2 I'm starting to believe that this one is very flawed: given the massive screen real estate of the hd2 I believe there is no excuse for a flawed onscreen keyboard. remember, this is a CRUCIAL part of a device with no hardware input facility, and we should not (in my opinion) have to buy third party software to get an acceptable basic user experience on a handset built as a thoroughly commercial mass-media device.
Thats my two cents.
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Thats my two cents.
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I agree with both of those cents fully
Also with regards to the post a few posts up, I presume that the person who spent $1000 on a phone lives in America where a HD2 would be hard to come buy as its not actually out there yet? You can't really blame him for buying it without testing it, especially with all the rave reviews on hundreds of sites, none of which seem to mention the flaws such as the keyboard and terrible (seriously terrible) sms sending issue.
Actually I also think HTC keyboard is not very good. I will not recommend anybody to use it. Anyway different people have different experience.
If you don't like Swype, you can try Finger Keyboard I think it's better than the HTC Keyboard.
I also have problems with my keyboard but I suspect a hardware fault and I am going to return my phone.
When I type it sometimes selects (multiple) letters on the other side of the keyboard or around the key i pressed. It usually comes in "bursts"; sometimes its nearly impossible to typ. Nearly threw the thing out of a window. Its a good phone but my keyboard is ruining the whole thing. Also (thats more rare) it can begin typing on its own, selecting or opening programs, switching tabs without me touching the screen! I waited for a new ROM and tried various tweaks but it doesn't get any better

Swype erratic and unpredictable?

Hey guys/gals,
I've been using swype for going on three weeks now but it's being a right pain more and more often now.
It just seems to pick words that have nothing like the letters being selected -due to the swype the trail jumping in different directions sometimes I suspect-
I also can't select the second function (punctuation, brackets etc) without a right fuss. when I hold a letter to get the number sitting above it I'll get something like "bbb b" or "xxx" even though my finger's perfectly still. and when I try and hold delete to delete whole words I might get something like "mmm l m lmm"
It just goes mental some times.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix the nutty behaviour before Swype and I have a showdown at dawn?
Sounds like your phone and not swype.
I had huge problems with the light grey colored swype (don't know what versions there are, the one extracted from the tmo rom I think) just wouldn't let me get 2nd function, and really jittery.
I went back to the original one I found weeks ago (again, sorry no idea if version, kinda dark grey and grey/blue, ) and that one, along with the screen sensitivity tweak in bsb tweaks makes it a joy to use (admittedly after a few weeks practice/annoyances)
I'll attach the cab of the one I user to this thread when I get home in an hour or so.
Not the phone it seems as I've tried the same one on two different HD2s.
Screen sensitivity might play a part in this but it's definitely an issue with swype. If I use swype, it's very troublesome and very erratic but if I use the standard keyboard, doing something like second function is spot-on 100% of the time.
Also, in notes and drawing apps, although lines that I draw aren't perfectly to my traced line, they aren't anything like swype's crazy lightning like bolts, however, I understand this might be like comparing apples to oranges
Samsamuel, that would be perfect mate, hopefully it can get myself and anyone with similar issues back on track with swype. It is a blue version I use too, but could hopefully be a different release you have.
cyberpunk0 said:
Hey guys/gals,
I've been using swype for going on three weeks now but it's being a right pain more and more often now.
It just seems to pick words that have nothing like the letters being selected -due to the swype the trail jumping in different directions sometimes I suspect-
I also can't select the second function (punctuation, brackets etc) without a right fuss. when I hold a letter to get the number sitting above it I'll get something like "bbb b" or "xxx" even though my finger's perfectly still. and when I try and hold delete to delete whole words I might get something like "mmm l m lmm"
It just goes mental some times.
Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix the nutty behaviour before Swype and I have a showdown at dawn?
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i have the same issue. i'm not able to type in a number by second function and holding down the button. that's why i guess it's a touchscreen fault.
like you, swype draws more bolds than straight lines. but i have the same problem when playing games like flight commander, where the drawn lines are shown all time. this "zick-zack" lines happen only every few seconds. most time i can draw lines perfectly. this is the part which i cannot understand...
if the screen is faulty, why does it work most time correct?
fruchtfliege said:
i have the same issue. i'm not able to type in a number by second function and holding down the button. that's why i guess it's a touchscreen fault.
like you, swype draws more bolds than straight lines. but i have the same problem when playing games like flight commander, where the drawn lines are shown all time. this "zick-zack" lines happen only every few seconds. most time i can draw lines perfectly. this is the part which i cannot understand...
if the screen is faulty, why does it work most time correct?
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It's interesting that it happens in games too but I still believe it's Swype at fault in this case and not the touchscreen.
Open up notes and start a drawing, draw really slowly or really quickly, press light and press heavy and the outcome is a far straighter trail (nearly perfect). This could be down to programming but I don't think Swype is programmed to be over sensitive or everyone would have the same problem, there must be another reason.
I have been having the same problem, wasn't all the time but it was like it was spiking a lot when swyping across the keyboard. Installed Keyboard tweak 3.3 with reduced sensitivity and working better than it ever did before but have only been testing for a couple of hours.
CAB from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
Ok, heres the swype i've used successfully on a few different roms. I don't remember where i got it(i got it from xda dev), and i cant find how to see a version number. The lighter coloured, slightly chunkier version is the one i had trouble with.
Version is important because if you read about, it seems there's a bug in one of the swype versions where it can affect passwords if you have a lock on your phone, and i think you have to hard reset to get back in, so i'd hate for that to happen! (I dont use a lock, so i wouldn't know if this is the affected version or not) so please back up your stuff.
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Ok, heres the swype i've used successfully on a few different roms. I don't remember where i got it(i got it from xda dev), and i cant find how to see a version number. The lighter coloured, slightly chunkier version is the one i had trouble with.
Version is important because if you read about, it seems there's a bug in one of the swype versions where it can affect passwords if you have a lock on your phone, and i think you have to hard reset to get back in, so i'd hate for that to happen! (I dont use a lock, so i wouldn't know if this is the affected version or not) so please back up your stuff.
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That one you're using (and posted) is version 2 (from Omnia), the nasty one is Swype 3.9. I also had nightmares with 3.9, don't recommend installing if you find it. Or you could just register for Beta release on the Swype website.
This skin works well with Swype v2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949
xavierdemon said:
That one you're using (and posted) is version 2 (from Omnia), the nasty one is Swype 3.9. I also had nightmares with 3.9, don't recommend installing if you find it. Or you could just register for Beta release on the Swype website.
This skin works well with Swype v2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949
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Thanks for that, i'll bear it in mind, though i actually like the dark look. Fits well with the rom i use.
Installed and shall test over next couple of days but it seems perfect sam.
I owe ya man.
samsamuel said:
Ok, heres the swype i've used successfully on a few different roms. I don't remember where i got it(i got it from xda dev), and i cant find how to see a version number. The lighter coloured, slightly chunkier version is the one i had trouble with.
Version is important because if you read about, it seems there's a bug in one of the swype versions where it can affect passwords if you have a lock on your phone, and i think you have to hard reset to get back in, so i'd hate for that to happen! (I dont use a lock, so i wouldn't know if this is the affected version or not) so please back up your stuff.
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Can I use this version to replace the other swype version cooked into my ROM (Energy RON 26Feb)?
gags9999 said:
Can I use this version to replace the other swype version cooked into my ROM (Energy RON 26Feb)?
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Yes, you should have no problems.
cyberpunk0 said:
Installed and shall test over next couple of days but it seems perfect sam.
I owe ya man.
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no worries. there are one or two 'oddities' to get used to, but overall its by far my favourite mobile keyboard ever!
is this one multilanguage??
xavierdemon said:
That one you're using (and posted) is version 2 (from Omnia), the nasty one is Swype 3.9. I also had nightmares with 3.9, don't recommend installing if you find it. Or you could just register for Beta release on the Swype website.
This skin works well with Swype v2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949
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Found this thread via a google search, I've also heard to stay away from Swype 3.9 b/c of the way it checks for device ID first.
Anyway, 2.0 works great and thanks for the link for new skins...

Remapping BT Keyboard?

So, I recently purchased a new Motorola bluetooth keyboard for my tablet, and I'm going a little mad with the fact that I can't figure out how to use other keyboard layouts from QWERTY. In particular, I'd like to use Dvorak, but the closest solution that I can come up with is to try to remap the keys. I've seen a few other posts on remapping keys on other devices, but I can't seem to find anything that relates to the usual letter keys. Everything out there seems to be for launching apps or something else.
Can anyone help point me in the right direction? I'm sure that I'll have to edit some root files, and I'm ok with doing that, but I'd like to have a decent idea of what I'm doing before I go messing around with things that I don't fully understand.
Thanks in advance,
-Sam
Try adding a vendor/product id file for your keyboard in /system/usr/keylayout/ with the desired mapping of the keys. Should work for usb keyboards (haven't tried it yet), probably will work for bt ones too.
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tkolev said:
Try adding a vendor/product id file for your keyboard in /system/usr/keylayout/ with the desired mapping of the keys. Should work for usb keyboards (haven't tried it yet), probably will work for bt ones too.
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I'd be happy to put the time into doing that, but I have no experience in how to do that. Can you point me in the right direction so I can learn/ figure out how to do that?
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samstheman42 said:
I'd be happy to put the time into doing that, but I have no experience in how to do that. Can you point me in the right direction so I can learn/ figure out how to do that?
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Well I haven't done that myself but it might help looking at the generic file. From what I understand you have to map the whole keyboard with the key functions you'd like. For example when you press 'q' you might want to have 'a' coming on the screen. The hard part is guessing the key numbers (it's easy for the letters - they are in the generic file, but special keys like ctrl, alt, win, etc. are harder to find) and finding your product/vendor id. As I said that should work with usb keyboards, but I'm not sure at all if that's the right approach for bt ones. Try google before wasting your time on something that might not work at all - someone must have bumped at the same case as you.
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Anybody else able to lend some help on this one?
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I have the same problem : I bought an usb keyboard with an AZERTY layout but when I press A I got an Q.
Any idea to change this?
Look here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318579 .
JdgM3NT4L said:
Look here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318579 .
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So, I've tried to follow the directions from that tutorial as closely as I can and I keep having problems. It seems like every time I try to edit the .kl file for my keyboard it doesn't work at all. It's definitely pretty frustrating spending a bunch of time editing the key and command codes for every button to find out that it didn't even do anything.
Anybody figure this out yet? I'm really struggling.
If it helps, I can try to break down what I've done so far in another post, but I'm at like 3.5 hours on this project alone tonight and don't feel like I've really gotten anywhere with this.
Gah, now I feel like an idiot. I was doing it right the whole time, the one crucial step that I messed up in the process was deleting the old .kl before pasting the new one in.
Finally got it working. I may post a tutorial on this later since others are having difficulty with this as well.
Thanks to tkolev and Judgemental for the posts and help.
My tutorial can be found here if you've happened to stumble upon this thread before finding it.

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