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Rooting the G2? A little help kinda confused with things.

Hey guys ill be joining this side of the forums now on monday and I'm really excited. Just I'm kinda confused about a few things and I was wondering if anyone could help enlighten a few things for me.
I know what Root is, S-off, Cid yada yada and I'm not new to rooting at all. I have adb and etc and I kinda want to do this on ubuntu because my vista is kind of janky at times.
Now apparently there is Temporary Root and Permanent Root and of course I want Permanent root, s-off, etc.
1.Now from what I read there has been apparently an update that updated the G2 to 1.22 or something like that? I read its rootable apparently but you need a windows application called gfree or something? Is this possible to do using just ubuntu?
2. Now to obtain root, s-off etc do I have to obtain temporary root first, then permanent root? Its kinda confusing coming in a noob to this device and trying to figure this all out. And do the methods vary with which firmwire your phone comes with? I'm assuming mines will come with the newest OTA since I'm receiving it Monday.
3. Also from what I'm seeing apparently having S-off and root and what not matters on what rom your running also? I don't want to flash a rom then end up loosing root or something. And Noo I DO NOT want to stay stock once I obtain root. I'm kind of a flashoholic.
Thanks to anyone willing to help I really appreciate it.
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gfree is a program rum on your phone... it "sets you 'G'2 free"... but i had a lot of problems getting gfree to work with the new g2 i got in the mail... check out my post on cyanogen... this is how i got root and latest radio img's... its under forums and htc desire z / g2... how to fix a bricked g2 and root a g2 another way...

Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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GhostZini said:
Visionary way was mad easy for me. Check out unlockr.com for it
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Link to it?
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Shaquiel Harris said:
Link to it?
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Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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joemm said:
Here this link has the video links in it for the unlockr
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10244704&postcount=2
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Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.

Check out the wiki, explains how to root using rage+gfree.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
I followed these instructions and rooted my phone fairly easily.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Shouldn't yall warn him about using VISIONary first? SOMETIMES, no NOT all the time but SOMETIMES people get stuck in a boot loop from using the VISIONary method. I would not recommended it, if you have know how to use ADB, use it. I'm pretty sure that they have ADB for Linux because they do have the Android SDK on Linux(at least I think they do). All you need to do in order to root with the safer/recommended way is ADB. All you have to do is ADB Push some files to your phone then run them on your phone's Terminal Emulator App, its pretty simple. Though I have not personally rooted a G2 yet(I get mine tomorrow) but I have spent at least a week learning about how to root the G2.
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First of all follow the link I gave him, did you bother to do that, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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joemm said:
First of all read the entire link I gave him, there was a warning, second of all I've helped a lot of people root following the videos and have had zero bricks as long as they do everything I posted in the link, third I rooted this way with zero problems, when people brick their phones its not visionary that bricks phones it people that think they know how to properly use visionary when they don't that bricks phones, its not just pressing the " attempt perm root" button to root your phone, you have to press certain settings in order to use it right.
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You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.

KoolKidsKlub said:
You may be right, but all the bricks that I have seen on this forum are from people using the VISIONary app. I haven't seen a single person brick using the Rage and GFree method.
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I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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joemm said:
I've seen bootloops from people using rage and gfree too, guess you better search a little harder since your gonna attempt perm root tommorow.
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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.

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Alright and how would one fix a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree? I have searched before but I never found anything on it.
EDIT: And if you could, please show me some links with people stuck in a boot loop caused by Rage and GFree, I would like to read it and learn from their mistakes so that I don't do them.
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When I get home i'll find the links for you, and you know I got to hand it to you, at least you do research and learn before you even got your phone, I wish more people would take the same approach as you.
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Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision

Well I'm doing research on it as well. thanks you guys for your resposes. I love this community people actually attempt to help. Trust guys I did my research and all that so I'm not a noob. Just a noob to this device that's all.
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david279 said:
Im rooted and done, Just got the phone today....used this method on this wiki..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
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hey david279, which radio(bandbase) did you have on your new G2 when you rooted with GFree?

Hmm just to make shure. I obtain root first, then use that gfree app on my rooted vision to get sim unlock, s-off etc?
Never mind just read it. This is actually really simple. *facepalm* sorry guys for the thread space ill get my topic removed.

I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Thanks, just confirming that 26.03.02.26 was still rootable with the wiki root instructions, there seems to be some confusion about if you can still root the 26.03.02.26 radio with the wiki, and you just confirmed that you still can.
Thanks Again, and happy flashing.

Rooting this phone reminded me of when I had a hero. That simple. I got a evo too and that was something to root when it first was released.
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david279 said:
I had the 26.03.02.26. I updated it to the newest one in the radio thread in the dev forum. I gotta use to those long radio version numbers.
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Exactly the info I was looking for I will be rooting later today.

Easiest root method for hboot. 860000

What's the easiest I used the s-off method the best one straight from my phone but I got it replaced with tmo and gfree looks too complicated to do and undo any easy way that I can.do it on my phone Idk how to use adb
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This one does not use gfree or ADB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021. It uses Visionary and worked great for me.

Does hboot matter since I have .86
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Just follow the guide step by step. I have 86 with no issues.
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After following that procedure, you'll have the 0.85.2007 bootloader. The version number is lower, but it's actually better because it's the engineering version.

can someone help i have tried just about everymethod. can someone plz email me or call me at 17142130538 or [email protected] i have been trying to root my mytouch 4g for the longest time... i had an old one i rooted with no problem but my screen cracked.. now they sent me a new one 4 days ago and i cannot root it and it is frustrating.. a rooted phone is the best way to goo and i feel useless without my phone rooted. HELP plz

acegetbuckets said:
can someone help i have tried just about everymethod. can someone plz email me or call me at 17142130538 or [email protected] i have been trying to root my mytouch 4g for the longest time... i had an old one i rooted with no problem but my screen cracked.. now they sent me a new one 4 days ago and i cannot root it and it is frustrating.. a rooted phone is the best way to goo and i feel useless without my phone rooted. HELP plz
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You really shouldn't post your email or your phone number on here... but try using the visionary method mentioned above
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i tried that method right and now and it still said s-on :/

Visionary ROOTS the phone.
S-OFF means UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER.
Please read and understand the big difference between the 2. There is a ton of info, both on the forum and in Google. And if you don't understand - please refrain from messing with your phone.

Ive rooted before it just does not let me
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
Ive rooted before it just does not let me
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All I can say is you're not following it correctly. Dozens upon dozens (or more) have used these guides with no problem, so if it's not working, the only other variable is user error. Plus, you didn't tell us anything about what's not working, so how could anyone help?

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All I can say is you're not following it correctly. Dozens upon dozens (or more) have used these guides with no problem, so if it's not working, the only other variable is user error. Plus, you didn't tell us anything about what's not working, so how could anyone help?
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I just have s-on after doing it
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s=on and i can't change it.
yeah, i just got a new mytouch 4g last week as well, and though i've rooted it with visionary, it won't stay rooted and s still =on. i can't get s=off. i've tried the gfree method, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858021, this one, (and the sdk adb one also)
and one prooblem i might be having, is i don't know what you mean when you say reboot or rather, i don't know if your saying to restart the phone or power off completely, or remove the battery, i'm really confused about your specific language.
thanks.

Drzfr3shboialex said:
I just have s-on after doing it
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I'll ask in a simpler fashion i guess.
1) we know you've previously rooted your phone
2) we know you are now only keeping s-on.
What errors are you getting when you try to do the ./gfree method or the root.sh method..
if they are not working you are getting errors. What are they.

I dont want to use gfree since I see a lot of newbies having problems unrooting
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nevermind...
so, i used gfree correctly this time i guess, it worked quite brilliantly. sorry for the noob-ness.

There is a method in the development section stating how to do because I have the 86. Bootloader and the gfree works fine for me
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Rooting New Gingerbread release

Well it is now official that gingerbread has been leak/released for our G2 and I'm sure lot of us who had soft bricks are happy to know we can unbrick it and now to our next problem rooting it
I have tried 2 ways so far first is the wiki way with psneutur and gfree, and other is temp root with visionary
My results for both came negative,
Gfree/ psneutur gave me permission denied after I pushed it in
Visionary jus gave me black screen
And gingerbreak requirs s-off
So let's gather info and or figure out a way to root new gingerbread if any tried downgrade method let all us know with steps what you did
Here is the info for new gingerbread
Ship s-on
Hboot 0.82.0008
Radio 26.08.04.30M3
eMMC-boot
Apr 13 2011,
So hope we can find solution to root and we can get custom roms back on it

you need to try to gain temproot with gingerbreak. can you please come over #g2root ?

I just said I tempted and it just stuck on trying to root nothing happen and I will go what irc server? Freenode?

Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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androidfeen809 said:
Let's wait for an update from paul on visionary
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I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...

xsteven77x said:
I dont know about that...once you put out something that bricks a ton of phones, i tend not to trust it ever again...
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Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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lainvalenajr said:
Well... I've never used any method but Unforgivens Method. Well hopefully we find a new way to root it.
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Visionary (as evidence by the sticky at the top of the dev phone saying DONT USE VISIONARY TO PERM ROOT) has bricked many a phones that have only now been able to be fixed. I think its just a trust issue and comes to down to each individual and what they personally think and believe I personally would never use visionary again no matter how many times its updated or "fixed". The trust has been broken.

Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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yeah i rooted my g2 using the visionary method and have had no issues. and it seems like a lot of the bricking has occurred since i rooted, so i dont get it.

i did visionary root with success, but put yourself in the other end of ppls shoes who did use visinary an you get a brick and no way out of it, other than have gfree with jus pushing, and everythign else is done for you, i would go that route than a higher chance of bricking,
But this thread is not bout bricking this is about how to obtain root on the new stock rom that is out

Yes please! if anyone finds out how to root the G2 with stock Gingerbread could you please post! thanks in advance!

shady503403 said:
Idk why there's hate on visionary... I rooted my phone the second day the process was released and I've never had an issue since...? And I've rooted 2 other g2s well after and still never had any issues... just followed instructions. I understand it can brick your phone, but then again... was it really visionary that bricked it? Or was it an user error placing blame?? Just saying....
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user error? lol in a one-click root... maybe they were pressing the top right corner of the button and that's their error lol

I don't know, either, but there has to be some reasonable explanation, doesn't there? After all, many people (myself included) had no trouble rooting with Visionary. OTOH, this is my second G2 - the first went back under warranty. With the first one, Visionary was unsuccessful at perm-rooting. This one, worked on the first try. Odd? Computers are NOT supposed to behave randomly - so why the difference?

when someone comes up with the visionary source, there are people that can understand it. until then it's a black box.

+1
I'm in the same boat. I just got a brand new G2 off craigslist, and was very happy to see that it had gingerbread. But to my extreme dissappointment, I cannot root it or downgrade it to gain root. Below are the things I have tried and didnt work.
Visionary
Gingerbreak (v1,0, 1.1, 1.2)
Rage
Super One-click
Z4Root
Androot
Gold card, for downgrading, also tried Gold card with above root methods.
I have also tried taking the stock Froyo PC10IMG and modified the info txt to read it as a newer version, and it loaded it, checked it, then just went back to the bootloader screen like there was no image there at all. Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for. So, I'm out of options. I love the rom, it's fast as hell and the battery life is far better than when I had my last G2. I just wanna overclock, add some sounds without using Zedge or something (want internal mods that arent dependant on memory using apps), and do some theming. Oh, and removing that horrible pink bloat >:]
I just know that our awesome Devs will come up with something.
XDA ROCKS!!!!!

Waiting?!
Any updates regarding the root?
I tried everything, and nothing works.
I even tried to resend it to the repair center to get froyo, they returned it back saying that they could no longer Downgrade it!

well this is my argument, you can call them and ask them for one that is froyo
complain to them that you have netflix and paying for a service to use on your phone reason why you got it, and since "THEY" updated and made it unsuably they are obligated to give you one that can use netflix or a replacement that can use it as they have done something that was not confirmed with you if you sent it for simple repair, you did not get your phone back to how it was you got something different...
start this fight you will probably end up with a mytouch 4g

fallen368 said:
...Last night I was thinking that if I pulled the internal battery (the little tiny one) then it would lose its info, allowing me to load any PC10IMG I wanted. NOPE. Rom and all its info and settings are still intact. Weird, cuz I thought that's what that little battery was for.
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Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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guhl99 said:
Hi!
The config options that you would have to change are written to the emmc on partition17 (main version) or partition7 (S-OFF, SuperCID, SIM-Lock) so that will not change if you pull any kind of battery.
The only chance to root this rom is that we find a new temp-root method and then do the usual things (misc_version, goldcard, downgrade, gfree, ...)
I do not expect that someone publishes a new temp-root before either T-Mobile/HTC rolled out the OTA or a different device running 2.3.4 really needs it.
Have fun - Guhl
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Damnit WE really need it!
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Damnit WE really need it!
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Either demand it now and be greedy, or wait and it will be universal. =]

HAS a root method been found yet?

I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.

Probably have to give it a little more time Hasn't been done yet that I know of.
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dabbill said:
If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.
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Since when lol? As far as I know if it came with GB you're **** outta luck.

Yep youre SOL, looks like the old exploits were all patched too so I would expect waiting a few weeks.

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If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.
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If the bootloader says "S-On", and has hboot 2.16, you cannot downgrade to Froyo. You will get an error about the boot loader being an older version.

Lookn4me said:
I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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Have you tried to do Z4root and the unrevoked s-off forever method. Just a thought. May not be a good one but I use z4 for temp root and I know it wont fully root only because of the S-on in the bootloader. Also which bootloader do you have currently. If its a newer bootloader as well its definitely a no-go

They will figure it out

I still have a pci36 image from froyo If I place it on the root of my sd card, it.should replace me back to froyo and then I can run unrevoked 3 right or??
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I still have a pci36 image from froyo If I place it on the root of my sd card, it.should replace me back to froyo and then I can run unrevoked 3 right or??
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Are you S-ON or S-OFF in the bootloader?

S-On
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S-On
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It probably only works if you were S-OFF.
You can try it to see what happens.

I tried it didn't downgrade, I also tried the Ruu it did nothing either. Just wait patiently you will be able to root soon. This stock ROM is running smoothing anyway, no big deal...

When all else fails, use brute force. Do a google search on goldcards. ;-)

jeriel05 said:
I tried it didn't downgrade, I also tried the Ruu it did nothing either. Just wait patiently you will be able to root soon. This stock ROM is running smoothing anyway, no big deal...
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Just trying to see a pattern here, but was your bootloader also S-ON?

Lookn4me said:
I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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Dude. On another thread you updated live OTA and ask for help to root it. Now you got a replacement phone from Sprint and they've updated it. Pick a story and stick with it. Are u sure Sprint is sending out replacement phones with Gingerbread update already installed or are you just making up stories as you go along? I'm asking because I have a replacement phone coming this week.
Not wanting to call you out. Just trying to confirm what I might expect coming from Sprint this week.

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Dude. On another thread you updated live OTA and ask for help to root it. Now you got a replacement phone from Sprint and they've updated it. Pick a story and stick with it. Are u sure Sprint is sending out replacement phones with Gingerbread update already installed or are you just making up stories as you go along? I'm asking because I have a replacement phone coming this week.
Not wanting to call you out. Just trying to confirm what I might expect coming from Sprint this week.
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My homegirl just got a replacement from Sprint today and it still has froyo on it.

brownhornet said:
My homegirl just got a replacement from Sprint today and it still has froyo on it.
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Thanks for the info. I was hoping this would be the case.

For your info, some of us can afford & do have more than one phone.... I only asked for help. Not to hear an idiot talk trash.. have a great day: -)& yes it came updated...
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shortydoggg said:
Just trying to see a pattern here, but was your bootloader also S-ON?
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Yes, I unrooted my phone and bootloader was S-ON

Ota updated shift

Hate to bother you guys, but are any of you having a crack at the ota update 2.3.3? I didnt know it would kill my visionary. Lost my internet. Dont have a clue how to get it back.
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You were temp rooted with Visionary and, do you mean you updated? If you did and weren't perm rooted before ( s-off ) , then your going to have to wait. No way to root yet if you did the OTA.

Yeah i know ... I was reaching out to devs to see who was working on finding a way to root it so i knew who to read the updates of. If i understood how to work on this stuff i would so be trying to help.
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Just keep reading and learning. You'll pick it up, just takes time. Still a newb myself.

couldnt he just ruu back to 2.2 and reroot? Or if you are still s-on and never perm rooted just go to sprint and make them fix it.

I don't think its that easy... I've been thinking and researching about this a lot because my shift is all messed up (bad speakerphone, etc.) and sprint said bring it in and they"ll replace it... Anyone handy with adb and an unrooted shift around? I have some ideas but I can't try them because I won't trade mine in until root is achieved.
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I went to my sprint repair center. The owner likes me and knows i was a rooted. He said he couldnt revert it. Without a chance of bricking my phone. He really doesnt think it was a great idea... Told me to just to give it time. He is waiting too.
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