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Internal memory. 8GB?

This video review says it has "8 gigs of internal memory"
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1911516/htc_touch_hd/

Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
Eriol

He certainly says it has 8 gigs of internal memory but as far as I am aware it has a 512mb rom and is expandable with microSD, interesting but I would bet that he is wrong

Wow oh wow, 8GB internal Memory
Let's hope that it's should have internal memory, and this video is not a fake make up...

HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices

Eriol said:
Well, he obviously missed two words: "up to" ... HTC has the specs on their web page.
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I don't hope so...
I was planning on atleast 16 or even better 32 gigs in the near future...

badaas said:
HTC plans to ship the phone with a 8GB SD card in the box.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/09/18/htc-officially-announces-touch-hd-3g-and-viva-devices
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i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...

Haha, yes that's awesome. A quad-hand phone, so only for people to share with a friend?

pzucchel said:
i am sorry, but this press-release is garbage: quad-hand telephone, 8 MB SD Card.... you should remember that anybody able to type on a keyboard is allowed to post a press release on internet! If it was written by somebody knowledgeable, he didn't take the time to read what he himself had written....
...i only believe to information posted on this forum...
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well if you believe it HAS 8GB internal, over stated it HAS a 8GB SD card shipping, then believe away!

my 2 cents: it doesn't have 8 Gb internal, it doesn't have an SD card.
...It has a microSD SLOT SD 2.0 compatible where - today - you can put an 8 Gb micro SDHC card (....which i already have) and, in the future, up to 32 GB max capacity...
If - for commercial reasons - they would add a microSD card to any unit i would be happy but i doubt it: i already paid my blackstone in www.digitec.ch and this is what they expect to sell and i expect to buy:
Internal Memory: 288 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
Memory Expansion: microSDHC
...which is not different from official HTC specifications!!!!
...and remember that they need to differentiate from the Iphone and if they would put 8 GB "ONLY" then "smart reviewers" will start say "the iphone 3g has more memory"...
Said this - this is just common sense. I have no direct information apart from HTC and vendors.

[Q] Internal phone storage..

I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
Help me out...

rajeshmorampudi said:
I have 101 applications installed in my phone. In internal phone storage available space is 148MB only.My question is what might be decreased 1GB of storage to 148MB. Is it because of so many applications??
Does this effect RAM??
Is 256MB of RAM included in 1GB??
Help me out...
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512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people

sofir786 said:
512mb for apps
256mb for ram
128 for graphics
as far as i know this is correct, but correct me if im wrong people
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Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.

iead1 said:
Well, for starters, that doesn't equal 1GB.
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896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Bourbon Brain said:
I think we have 386MB of RAM.
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Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.

384 but close enough ;-)
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More RAM?
mrtim123 said:
Correct. Android 1.6 can only handle 256MB (i think anyway). Its like Windows XP and the 3.2GB RAM limit - sure you can put more than that in the machine but it will only see the maximum amount it can use.
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can anyone see the size of the RAM being increased over time, perhaps not with 2.1 but in the future, only reason i'm asking is because this is one of the few 1ghz high end phones with less than 512mb of ram and this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
i'm still very excited about 2.1's arrival which i have been searching for almost every day
just got my xperia x10 last week after a long hard choice between that and the HTC desire and i've never really been a Sony Ericsson fan as all my old phones had software issues and crashed a lot, not what i expected.
Any way it really is a brilliant phone but like everyone says 'the outdated software' is the phones only major dissapointment.

PoTi_96 said:
896MB
Where are the forgotten 128 MB?
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sorry lol forgot to mention the 1.6 limitation on ram lmao

xX_o2_Xx said:
this is a requirment for android 3.0. thinking ahead here . it's just dissapointing to know :/
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Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
Please stop spreading FUD.

iead1 said:
Can you find me some proof or source? 3.0 doesn't exist right now, so it can't have "requirements".
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there have been some posts on websites about the recommended requirements, which to be fair seems a bit steep for a mobile operating system, now unfortunately i can't past the link you'll have to Google 'android 3.0 recommended requirements' or something similar
details below
Android 3.0 Gingerbread will be released in mid- October (around 15 -16th), 2010. First handsets shipping in November/December – for the Holiday Season.
Minimum hardware requirements for Android 3.0 devices are: 1GHZ CPU, 512MB or RAM, displays from 3.5” and higher. (We all, of course, heard that Android handsets with 2GHz CPU’s are coming)
New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher. (Anyone thinking about Android tablets now? )
Completely revamped user interface. If you want to get a feeling of what Android 3.0 Gingerbread UX is like, check out the Gallery App on Nexus One. The same overall feel, light animated transitions,etc. Natively, through all the UI.
Android’s split into 2 branches becomes official. 3.0 for top of the line/high end devices. Cheap, low-end mass market handsets will keep Android 2.1/2.2
Eldar also confirmed my musings about the death of third party User Interface shells like HTC Sense, MotoBlur, etc;. Android 3.0 basically kills the need for them.
Still, there’s some hope for third party vendors here – while Google takes over the UI on the high end, vendors get to keep their UI shells/improvements on mass market Android smartphones, running Eclair or Froyo.
Update: I posted an update to this post, where I address Dan Morrill’s tweet, and do some corrections/clarifications regarding the upcoming Android update number issues, “minimum” specs – thay are actually only “recommended”, and the the split between high end Android 3 – low end Android 2.2 devices – it’s not an official Google policy, but it is happening nonetheless.

When I run diskusage it shows me having 465 for data so it looks like we dont even get 512. Will the 2.1 update let us install all this stuff on the sd card?

[CLOSED/G2] Missing 2GB memory

Ok I've read countless post about the lack of memery on the g2 that was promised has any one contacted t-mobile to get an official response or answer as to why so much of the 4gb memory is missing I'm waiting til the 6th to get mine but all the talk of memory missing has me second guessing
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T-Mobile's response is that it is not missing, but allocated 1GB to system, 1GB to OTA, and 2GB to user. They cannot explain why the system only shows 2.1GiB, but insist that 4GB are there even if we cannot see it, access it, or even find it with root.

there are indications the "missing 2GB" are there - just not recognized or reported by 2.2
see my post in the other memory thread for the links

[Q] Is 256 MB of RAM low ?

give me your opinions about the Samsung Focus RAM

According to Microsoft, the RAM is 512.
Not sure who to believe MS, or the general interweb information.
M.

I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.

Thank you all guys
you gave me hope!!!!!!

ryotgz said:
I emailed Samsung PR and they said it will have 512MB of RAM.
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Nice one, thanks!

Molal said:
Nice one, thanks!
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Yea I just hope they didn't get it confused with the ROM size... AT&T has a PDF spec sheet that says 256MB. Only time will tell I guess.

Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...

ryotgz said:
Well I emailed Samsung PR again and got a response that makes me weary about the 512MB of RAM email I received. I asked how much ROM space (not storage space) the phone will have and got 8GB. I even stated in the email not to confuse with the 8GB of user storage. So it could in fact have 512MB ROM, 256MB RAM. Man, I hope Microsoft's WP7 website is right.
If that's the case, I may have to get the Surround even though I don't want to...
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That's exactly my line of thinking - surround instead of focus if the focus only has 256mb of RAM.
But, watching the videos of the focus it looks as fluid as the other 512mb RAM phones.....maybe 256mb is all you need. Particularly given the fact that the Windows OS spreads across RAM (inc. the memory card).

The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.

ericc191 said:
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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I hope you're right. Because I saw the specs that Microsoft required a minimum of 256MB. AT&T has a spec sheet that shows 256MB as well. I want AT&T to be wrong and MS website to be right.

Every review I've seen today shows only 256mb of ram. With the lack of 3rd party multitasking apps I don't see this as being a major problem. Having said that I would have liked the phone to have 512mb just in case. You can never have too much ram.

ericc191 said:
The Focus will have 512mb not 256mb. This is a specific Microsoft WP7 requirement.
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You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.

nerdgenius said:
You're wrong WP7 specific requirement is 256mb of ram or higher. 8gb of storage or higher. Did you see the keynote 6 months ago. The LG quantum being released on At&t will also have 256mb of ram. The surround will have 512 with 448mb available to the user.
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I stand corrected.

Samsung Focus is the phone I want to get without settlling. THe HD7 is a little too big for me, I might as well get a tablet. However like a few people here, I might have to settle for the HTC Surround if the Focus does indeed only have 256MB RAM.
Sure it may be acceptable now with 256MB but MS could release Windows Phone SP1 or SP2 with multitasking enabled. I also know too many iPhone users who will gloat if I get a phone with less RAM than theirs. I am still up in the air and wish the decision were easy if the Focus had 512MB RAM or the Surround had a microSD slot.
If I do get the Surround, it looks like I will need to sell this 32GB microSD card I just purchased..
The thing is Microsoft recently updated their 'at-a-glance' WP7 site to correct inaccuracies and it still shows the Focus at 512MB RAM.
[www dot microsoft dot com/presspass/presskits/windowsphone/glance.aspx]

Yes! Engadget confirmed the RAM is 512MB and the ROM will be 1GB! The Samsung PR lady that emailed me was right.
Engadget Focus Review

Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
Also said, unlike any other WP7 phone, you can expand memory using micro sd slot. Only problem is it supposedly wipes your device every time you put one in or take it out. So don't take it out.
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The Venue Pro is also expandable

Made2Last said:
Engadget.com just updated their review earlier today saying the Focus has 512 RAM and 1GB ROM. Which is.good to know.
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The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?

ouvreboite said:
The question is : does this applied to the omnia 7 ?
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Microsoft's website shows the same RAM & ROM. So there's a good chance it will.

Good news indeed. This and the GPS (concerns it would suffer the same as the Galaxy S devices) were the only two things holding me back from this device. Now, November 8th can't get here soon enough.

[Q] Actual Storage on the Nexus 7

How much GB of storage does the 8 GB and 16 GB versions of the Nexus 7 actually have?

The 8 GB model has 5.74 GB on it

So the 16 gb version should have approx 13.74 gb available.

It should have 13.74, unless the unusable space is directly proportional to that of the 8gb. In this case it would have approximately 11.118 gb for the user.

any way to change your order from 8 GB to 16 GB?

sharp2G said:
any way to change your order from 8 GB to 16 GB?
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I don't think you can. I read somewhere that Google won't let you cancel your pre-order. The only way is to refuse delivery.

northcutt1023 said:
I don't think you can. I read somewhere that Google won't let you cancel your pre-order. The only way is to refuse delivery.
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damn. that's unfortunate. guess some of my music will have to be left out lol. i sent them an email. maybe i'll get lucky.

Xi2wiked said:
So the 16 gb version should have approx 13.74 gb available.
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I don't fully agree with this guess (no offence!). Let me have a go!
So, with an 8 gig model (this is 8*10^9 bytes not 8*2^30 bytes - it's how all hard drives are sold) we know this has a usable space of 5.74Gb. Now, just the raw drive will have 7.45Gb of space (this is the marketed 8 gig figure's actual size - 8*10^9/2^30). So 7.45-5.74 suggests 1.80Gb of space taken up by the filesystem and the operating system and whatever else is on there. So, the raw drive size of a 16 gig model is 14.9Gb using the above formula. Assuming that the overheads are constant (I've no idea if this is a valid assumption or not but I would imagine the size of the OS is) then my estimate is 14.9-1.80 = 13.1Gb. (All figures are correct to 3 significant figures.)
I'm half way through a maths masters (it's summer - I'm bored) so I have some confidence in using my calculator, but, I don't know if my understanding is correct! If when someone does get the 16 gig model I'd like to know the actual answer (I'm getting the 8). I hope someone can prove me wrong/right!

rowanparker said:
I don't fully agree with this guess (no offence!). Let me have a go!
So, with an 8 gig model (this is 8*10^9 bytes not 8*2^30 bytes - it's how all hard drives are sold) we know this has a usable space of 5.74Gb. Now, just the raw drive will have 7.45Gb of space (this is the marketed 8 gig figure's actual size - 8*10^9/2^30). So 7.45-5.74 suggests 1.80Gb of space taken up by the filesystem and the operating system and whatever else is on there. So, the raw drive size of a 16 gig model is 14.9Gb using the above formula. Assuming that the overheads are constant (I've no idea if this is a valid assumption or not but I would imagine the size of the OS is) then my estimate is 14.9-1.80 = 13.1Gb. (All figures are correct to 3 significant figures.)
I'm half way through a maths masters (it's summer - I'm bored) so I have some confidence in using my calculator, but, I don't know if my understanding is correct! If when someone does get the 16 gig model I'd like to know the actual answer (I'm getting the 8). I hope someone can prove me wrong/right!
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he's most likely basing it off of an existing device.
For Example, my 16GB Galaxy Nexus shows 13.33GB total space in the storage settings. But in various apps it reads as 13,648MB.
Anyway, exact storage for 16GB will be above 13GB.

neok44 said:
he's most likely basing it off of an existing device.
For Example, my 16GB Galaxy Nexus shows 13.33GB total space in the storage settings. But in various apps it reads as 13,648MB.
Anyway, exact storage for 16GB will be above 13GB.
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Ah, that would make more sense. I thought he was just taking the same amount off.

rowanparker said:
Ah, that would make more sense. I thought he was just taking the same amount off.
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he could of been, but since no one has the 16GB N7, anything is a guess.

rowanparker said:
I don't fully agree with this guess (no offence!). Let me have a go!
So, with an 8 gig model (this is 8*10^9 bytes not 8*2^30 bytes - it's how all hard drives are sold) we know this has a usable space of 5.74Gb. Now, just the raw drive will have 7.45Gb of space (this is the marketed 8 gig figure's actual size - 8*10^9/2^30). So 7.45-5.74 suggests 1.80Gb of space taken up by the filesystem and the operating system and whatever else is on there. So, the raw drive size of a 16 gig model is 14.9Gb using the above formula. Assuming that the overheads are constant (I've no idea if this is a valid assumption or not but I would imagine the size of the OS is) then my estimate is 14.9-1.80 = 13.1Gb. (All figures are correct to 3 significant figures.)
I'm half way through a maths masters (it's summer - I'm bored) so I have some confidence in using my calculator, but, I don't know if my understanding is correct! If when someone does get the 16 gig model I'd like to know the actual answer (I'm getting the 8). I hope someone can prove me wrong/right!
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I have always been confused by this. I have always felt like saying a device has 8, 16, or 32 GB of memory is false advertising since every time I get a device with that amount of memory, there is usually much less free space. I didn't realize that the amount of memory the OS takes up isn't factored into the equation, and the whole bit vs byte confuses me as well. Oh well, lol. Thats why I never became a computer engineer, I guess.

sharp2G said:
any way to change your order from 8 GB to 16 GB?
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This was at the bottom on my order:
Need to make a change to your order? Call us at 1-855-83-NEXUS (1-855-836-3987)

Actual Usable Storage
Hi Guys,
I put together a list of the actual usable internal storage of different phones so that we can compare and see which one has how much. This can be found on:
http://icethreads.com/actual-usable-storage-of-mobile-phones/
Let me know if you found it useful!
Regards,
- Harris

One thing is for sure, the usable storage space on the nexus is a hell of a lot better than the usable storage space on the M$ Surface lol
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