Google calander driving me nuts - Galaxy S I9000 General

I know at least one other person has experienced this as I found this
When I add an appointment in the calendar, I always get this message:
"New event
Local calendar does not sync with Google calendar.
If you want to sync with Google, please add Google account"
Then a checkbox for "Go to account and sync"
and another: "Never show again"
Now, I have a Google account so not sure what I need to add.
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I also know what the problem seems to be. It appears I have a local "My calendar" and a Googlemail one. I know this as I have a drop down option in each new appointment from which I can choose. I cannot however find a way to make the Googlemail one the default or delete the "My calendar" one.
This means if I forget to choose I do not sync with my Googlemail account nor my home PC. Anyone got any ideas ?
Screeny attached. (Personal info edited out)

Just open calendar, press settings and choose the calendar you want...
You can disable 'my calendar' also from there

pharz said:
Just open calendar, press settings and choose the calendar you want...
You can disable 'my calendar' also from there
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That is the settings page. You can effectively select which calendar/s you want to display but you cannot disable them they are still running but the appointment in that calendar are not shown when you open the calendar app. and even if the "My calendar" is de-selected when you try to create a new appointment it still defaults to "my Calendar". It cannot be removed or disabled and you cannot make "Googlemail" the default.

Use a rom with all that samsung rubbish removed! Simples!
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I'm not a fan of the default calendar input etc, so I use Calengoo and in that I can select which calendar it defaults to and displays, but it costs a few dollars. Maybe try something like Jorte. I just preferred the way they worked over the stock calendar.

I had this problem but with some ROM update it went away. What ROM version are you using?

Mine always and with any ron defaults to Google.
Once selected it stays default
You can try to erase all settings and set it up again

It doesn't do that on my version (2.3.4 JVP), the default calendar I select in the settings is the one it uses.
Maybe try clearing the data for the calendar by going to
settings->Applications->Manage Applications->tab All
And selecting Calendar storage and doing a clear data.
Maybe that will clear the problem (but you will have to reconfigure
your calendar, but if everything is synced to google it should be ok)

echidna2001 said:
It doesn't do that on my version (2.3.4 JVP), the default calendar I select in the settings is the one it uses.
Maybe try clearing the data for the calendar by going to
settings->Applications->Manage Applications->tab All
And selecting Calendar storage and doing a clear data.
Maybe that will clear the problem (but you will have to reconfigure
your calendar, but if everything is synced to google it should be ok)
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Again thanks. I have done that as well. It only started after the 2.3.3 update (official) I can't understand why there is a "My Calendar" as well as the Googlemail one, just do not see the point.

Just to clarify how it works for me, I have all of the calendars enabled in the settings (including the phone only "My Calendar". That just indicates that they should be displayed on the calendar.
When I add a new event (tap to create) one of the entry fields is the calendar I want to create the event in. Once I set that (and actually create an event, if you cancel it doesn't stick) it automatically defaults to that calendar for subsequent events that I create.
That is how to set the default calendar being used.

Related

Multiple Google accounts on one G1

Hi
I have 2 Google Apps accounts (one personal and one work)
From what I can tell, you can only sign in with one account into Android and to access the other Mail i will have to use IMAP. Fair enough, i can live with that. But i'm not sure i can live without both cals or google talk on both (or any other aspects which I have yet to check on, such as lattitude, although I cant actually find latitude on my maps app.)
Is there a way of
* syncing more than 1 calendar?
* logging into more than one account in google talk (IM app or others) as when you access the IM prog it brings up a page which looks like it should list all of the accounts you want to access... which, if you cant access more than 1, is a little pointless from what i can make out.
I dont suppose cupcake makes any of this possible does it?
cheers
Hi,
I know that the calendars can be done.
I have several google and apps accounts.
The account you use as the primary needs
to be given FULL access to the other calendar.
Go to the secondary account and do the sharing
and access stuff. I had to dig around a little for
the right procedure in the google help forums. Once
your primary user can edit events on the web for the
secondary calendar then all should be well. Remember
to color code them. I am currently working with three
calendars. They all will show up as one and color coded.
You can't open separate instances for each calendar.
When you add an event on your phone you get a dropdown
to choose which calendar to add it to.
K9 Mail (free app on the Market) is an excellent client that supports multiple IMAP/POP3 accounts.
For calendar sync, it's a little more trickier. You need to share your 2nd calendar with your main one by doing the following:
Sign into Google with your 2nd account.
Go to Calendar, and click on Settings link (top right corner)
On the Calendar Settings page go to "Calendars" tab.
Click the "Share this calendar" link.
Under the "Share with specific people" section, enter the e-mail address of your primary account, select "Make changes AND manage sharing" permission setting, click the "Add Person button, and finally click the "Save" button.
Log out of Google.
Sign into Google with your primary account and go to Calendars.
Go to Settings and verify that the calendar from your 2nd account is now listed under "My Calendars" section.
On your G1 open the Calendar app
Press the Menu button, select "More" and then "My calendars" option.
Press the Menu button again and select "Add calendars" option. This should sync up and present you a list with your 2nd account's calendar.
Select it, save and exit the Calendar app.
Repeat steps 1 through 12 for adding more calendars from your other accounts.
You're done.
I still haven't found a way to sync contacts from multiple gmail accounts. Maybe there's an app for that?
har har har everything works except this hmm. How bout adding all your work contacts to your regular account and make it into a group named "work". That way they don't mix or you can pull up fast.
Chahk said:
Maybe there's an app for that?
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osokrayzay said:
har har har everything works except this hmm. How bout adding all your work contacts to your regular account and make it into a group named "work". That way they don't mix or you can pull up fast.
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That work-around is a one-way sync though. Time to put in a feature request at Android Google Code group.

"My Calendar" won't sync with gmail calendar

Is there a way to get "My Calendar" to sync with my cloud gmail calendar? Selecting my gmail calendar every time I make an entry is a pain and I'd prefer to delete the default "My Calendar" all together. Has anyone found a solution? In googling this it seems a lot of people are having this problem.
Second this. Any way to change default calendar. I found this out the hardway that the default wasn't my gmail calendar. You have to switch it on the phone.
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I don't know if you're rooted, but if u are, just download the nexus one calendar and it eliminate "my calendar" leaving only your gmail calendars. It can be found in the sticky thread in the general section.
Web Based Calendar + Calendar Quick Add
Blown 89 said:
Is there a way to get "My Calendar" to sync with my cloud gmail calendar? Selecting my gmail calendar every time I make an entry is a pain and I'd prefer to delete the default "My Calendar" all together. Has anyone found a solution? In googling this it seems a lot of people are having this problem.
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The best no-root solution I know of is the web based google calendar for touch-based devices Just go to calendar.google.com from your vibrant, make a bookmark and place the shortcut to the bookmark on your desktop.
As for quickly adding events, I use Calendar Quick Add, which allows easy text-based entry and allows you to choose the default calendar (spam blocker, remove the spaces):
appbrain . com / app/com.xinlu.quickadd
davidron said:
The best no-root solution I know of is the web based google calendar for touch-based devices Just go to calendar.google.com from your vibrant, make a bookmark and place the shortcut to the bookmark on your desktop.
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This was great advice, thanks! I didn't realize how highly developed the web-based Google apps had become... (The shortcut even looks nice on the desktop -- a little calendar.)
Not only that...
pavvy said:
This was great advice, thanks! I didn't realize how highly developed the web-based Google apps had become... (The shortcut even looks nice on the desktop -- a little calendar.)
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Not only that, but it supports HTML5 localstorage, so the calendar continues to work if you have no data connection and syncs your changes when one becomes available (the page must be open and displayed for the sync to happen).
When you create a new event, you have to manually select google calendar every single time instead of the default "my calendar". The default one is only local and it doesn't sync with google or outlook.
I hope Samsung will fix this.
MilkPudding said:
When you create a new event, you have to manually select google calendar every single time instead of the default "my calendar". The default one is only local and it doesn't sync with google or outlook.
I hope Samsung will fix this.
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This is true of the default calendar app that comes with the phone, but this is NOT true of the web-based calendar (that also supports offline sync) nor is it true of the "calendar quick add" app available in the market. Those two combined are a nice workaround (for me at least).
Work Around
This solution can be used for both root AND non-root devices:
Use a 3rd party cal (i prefer Jorte). Within the application, you can set the default as whichever calendar you prefer (either master gmail calendar or sub-calendar). Hope this helps!

[Q] epic Calander Problems

Ok i searched thru the search and havent found my answer. I set up gmail calander and inside it set up some events to follow, like Us Holidays and sport teams calanders. It set up nicely on my laptop, but when i sync on my phone, they show up in the list of connected calanders but are now in the actual calander. Am i doing something wrong?, like looking at the samsung calander and not the Gmail calander. I am on Froyo Dk28 rooted aswell. HELP!!
urirx98 said:
Ok i searched thru the search and havent found my answer. I set up gmail calander and inside it set up some events to follow, like Us Holidays and sport teams calanders. It set up nicely on my laptop, but when i sync on my phone, they show up in the list of connected calanders but are now in the actual calander. Am i doing something wrong?, like looking at the samsung calander and not the Gmail calander. I am on Froyo Dk28 rooted aswell. HELP!!
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I didn't fully catch your question, but If I understand correctly:
have you tried going to the regular calendar?: open app drawer, select Calendar. Then Menu, Settings, Calendars
Here you can check or uncheck the calendars you want to show; the list should include all of your calendars, including "other" calendars you added through GCal. After you do that, hit the back button, go to Calendar Sync and make sure the calendar is checked to sync (if you want that). I'm pretty sure most of the other 3rd party calendar apps either use the same method or pull from these settings.
If it's not showing up in the list, uncheck the Calendar Sync from your google account. Then goto Settings->Applications and clear application data for "Calendar Storage" (not "Calendar"). Then recheck the calendar Sync to resync, that should work.
that didnt work, anyone else got any ideas?? Please very annoying not having the holidays on the phone
fastmikey1969 said:
If it's not showing up in the list, uncheck the Calendar Sync from your google account. Then goto Settings->Applications and clear application data for "Calendar Storage" (not "Calendar"). Then recheck the calendar Sync to resync, that should work.
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that fix helped me with my calendar sync issue after upgrading to froyo eb13, thanks!
Had same issue. Clearing Calenar and Sync storage fixed it right up for me. Didn't even need to uncheck the calendars.
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same issue here... clearing the cache actually made me lose some of the calendars I had synced and now can't get them back...
Haven't been able to get a calender my wife has shared with me since upgrading at all.
Before I upgraded, I forgot to save the phone calendar since it doesn't sync to google. I used MyBackup Root before I upgraded to save the all calendars. So, I restored the calendar in MyBackup Root and it took all my events from all the calendars it backed up and smushed them into the main calendar. I didn't catch it before it synced to google and it made a mess. I exported the calendar to try to fix it and deleted the calendar to find that the export is corrupted...DOH!!!
Anyone else have a way to solve this issue with MyBackup and putting all calendars into one?
fastmikey1969 said:
If it's not showing up in the list, uncheck the Calendar Sync from your google account. Then goto Settings->Applications and clear application data for "Calendar Storage" (not "Calendar"). Then recheck the calendar Sync to resync, that should work.
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OMG THANK YOU! Lost a bunch of appointments when I went to DK28, and this fixed it!
You know i dont think i read things correctly the 1st time, either that or i should have tried it a 2nd time because by GEORGE IT WORKED. AWESOME!!
Had all my calendars except 1 before i tried the 'fix'... then did the fix...and lost all my calendars...
i dunno what i did but i got one of them back... 1! .... but still not all of them.. later im going to try to replace the calendar apk file
fastmikey1969 said:
If it's not showing up in the list, uncheck the Calendar Sync from your google account. Then goto Settings->Applications and clear application data for "Calendar Storage" (not "Calendar"). Then recheck the calendar Sync to resync, that should work.
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Took me a minute to find the setting, on my Epic 2.2.1 its Settings > Applications > Manage > All > Calendar Storage
WOW. Clearing the cache. I sort of felt it was the cache that was corrupt, but did not know the 'ALL' tab on Apps existed!!
THANKS A TON!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was missing some events/appointments in EB13 calendar. Unchecking sync, then clearing data in "calendar storage" then rechecking sync did the trick! Thank you!!

Calendar does not sync all Gmail Apps Calendars!!!!

The standard calendar app doesnt show all calendars. If I add new calendars though there are shown in the standard Calendar app.
Weird enough some third party apps do allow to select all other gmail app calendars, but they are marked as inactive?
How do i get teh calendar to sync all Gmail Apps Calendars?
Weird, when I go into the calendar settings and click calendars, all of them show up.
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Riccardo83 said:
The standard calendar app doesnt show all calendars. If I add new calendars though there are shown in the standard Calendar app.
Weird enough some third party apps do allow to select all other gmail app calendars, but they are marked as inactive?
How do i get teh calendar to sync all Gmail Apps Calendars?
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With google calender the first time the sync occurs, it happnes with the calenders that are enabled google calendar on the web.
Here is what u can do .
1. Go to google.com/calendar and make all the calendars visible
2. In phone - settings /manage applications delete the data from calendar and calender storage.
3. then settings / accounts and sync - re sync calendar.
Now all the calenders will come in calendar app in phone.
Select the ones that u want.
Thanky you
I tried your method of deleting the data and then re-syncing the accounts. But, now even the main calendar from my google account has disappeared and refuses to show up. Is there something missing here??? Cal widget for example shows all the calendars in its configurations but does not show any of the events from the same.
there is something wrong with the default calendar. I am running stock rom xxki3.
Hi, I had similar issue, i think this is one of known issue on android, I tried "clear data" method, sometimes it may work, sometime it doesnt. I google for solution and I found this temporary workaround would solve the issue, atleast for me..
you may want to try this:-
1. Go to android setting, application (all), clear data on calendar storage (WARNING-this step will wipe all calendar entries which were saved internally on your phone)
2. Go to market, download & install this app called: Business calendar (FREE)
(This app have direct connection to google calendar, which will also download and keep all of your calendars entries (including sub calendars)
3. Open business calendar, login with your gmail account, and it will start sync
(manual: more > sync now) it may take few mins, be patient.
this way, your stock or default calendar will get synced as well automatically...try this out
Thanks for the tip. After selecting the sub-calendars on the app, the default calendar also started recognizing the same. Weird.....
This tips is working.
First time, this doesn't work, I had to erase my google account (by the way to refresh my apps ^^).
But the second time, it worked.
nishadh said:
Thanks for the tip. After selecting the sub-calendars on the app, the default calendar also started recognizing the same. Weird.....
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I think this is a bug in Samsung Calendar app. The first time the phone synchronize with google calendar, the phone will download all calendars available for the google account. Each calendar has two flags, sync and visible. The first time, all calendars will be flag unsync and hidden (not visible) except our main calendar. After that we can use the calendar app to choose which calendar will be sync and visible. The problem with Samsung Calendar app, if the calendar is flagged as hidden, then the Calendar apps won't recognize the calendar at all, so we can't change the flag to visible. This does not happen with my other phone. So this is not Android bug. I think this bug exist since Samsung Galaxy S. Someone in Galaxy S use sql editor to edit the calendar database. Meanwhile I use Calengoo. Bussiness Calendar can be used as well

S planner and calendar syncing , feature or bug ?!

Using the s planner app,I have realized its got a bunch of useful and intersting features integrated with the s memo app, like linking handwritten memos and transcribing them into events or tasks.The quick add feature within the s planner is a very good addition too.
However,its still missing some basic stuff and features, which is quite irritating and annoying.
One of those features is the ability to add those quick events into the Google calendar by default !!!
No matter what I do, it adds that event into "my calendar" .. which is for some whatever reason, it cannot be synced with Google calendar !! So its only stored locally.
Even if I uncheck "my calendar" from the settings , it still adds the event to it but it only won't be visible unless u check the box again.
Removing Samsung account didn't help neither.
Is there anyway around this? Or an option to force the app to use Google calendar only?
could be a bug , or thats how samsung intented the way this app be used ?
Such basic features as calendar syncing with Google has been around since ages, im quite disappointed as this is my first samsung device. Samsung, by Not making the app behaving like normal calendar apps , will only make it useless and the whole point of this device (organizer,note,s pen) would be diminished
Edit:all the above applies to Tasks too.
any kind of help is highly appreciated.
Cheers
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I already raised this frustrating issue in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361732
I think the only hope is for a developer to have a stab at adding this functionality
Goodm7sn said:
. . . No matter what I do, it adds that event into "my calendar" .. which is for some whatever reason, it cannot be synced with Google calendar !! So its only stored locally.
Even if I uncheck "my calendar" from the settings , it still adds the event to it but it only won't be visible unless u check the box again.
Removing Samsung account didn't help neither.
Is there anyway around this? Or an option to force the app to use Google calendar only?
could be a bug , or thats how samsung intented the way this app be used ?
Such basic features as calendar syncing with Google has been around since ages, im quite disappointed as this is my first samsung device. Samsung, by Not making the app behaving like normal calendar apps , will only make it useless and the whole point of this device (organizer,note,s pen) would be diminished
Edit:all the above applies to Tasks too.
any kind of help is highly appreciated.
Cheers
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I just got my Note today, did the 2.3.6 update, added an event in My Calendar, then it says "cannot sync with Google Calendar"
That is weird, and troublesome, for sure.
It's actually written in the user manual that it DOES NOT SYNC with google calendar. Nice "feature".
zen313 said:
It's actually written in the user manual that it DOES NOT SYNC with google calendar. Nice "feature".
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meh , why on earth they would do so !
Mine syncs perfectly. I looked in settings under calendar. I have "my calendar" and "my task" unchecked. Then I have a space with my name and a down arrow. I push the down arrow and it open a calendar with my gmail address. That is checked. Syncs perfectly.
I think the default for task/calendar is the local store, but you can choose another calendar. The option is covered by the keyboard but if you scroll down you can find it.
The problem is not that it won't sync with google calendars - it does. The annoying issue is that when you make a new calendar entry it defaults to 'My Calendar' rather than the google one. You are given the option to choose the google calendar but it is such a pain having to do that for every entry when with all other calendars you can choose your default calendar.
If you don't need the 'My Calendar' just tick it off in the settings. Then it defaults to the google calendar. Works this way since sgs 1 I think at least for me. I never have to choose the calendar when entering a new appointment with splanner in my google calender.
sman55 said:
The problem is not that it won't sync with google calendars - it does. The annoying issue is that when you make a new calendar entry it defaults to 'My Calendar' rather than the google one. You are given the option to choose the google calendar but it is such a pain having to do that for every entry when with all other calendars you can choose your default calendar.
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sman55 said:
The problem is not that it won't sync with google calendars - it does. The annoying issue is that when you make a new calendar entry it defaults to 'My Calendar' rather than the google one. You are given the option to choose the google calendar but it is such a pain having to do that for every entry when with all other calendars you can choose your default calendar.
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Agreed.
Either idiocy or arrogance on Smasung's part.
Do you need both calendars? If not you are talking of a non existing problem if I got you right (see my post above).
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Agreed.
Either idiocy or arrogance on Smasung's part.
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olympicchicken said:
If you don't need the 'My Calendar' just tick it off in the settings. Then it defaults to the google calendar. Works this way since sgs 1 I think at least for me. I never have to choose the calendar when entering a new appointment with splanner in my google calender.
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This also works for me.
olympicchicken said:
If you don't need the 'My Calendar' just tick it off in the settings. Then it defaults to the google calendar. Works this way since sgs 1 I think at least for me. I never have to choose the calendar when entering a new appointment with splanner in my google calender.
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Hmm. this DOESN'T work for me. I have My Calender unchecked in the Calendars option, but it STILL defaults to my Calendar. very annoying. In addition, S-Planner is not syncing any of my events to my Exchange server. It pulls them down fine (if created elsewhere), but then doesn't update the server correctly. Grrr.
olympicchicken said:
If you don't need the 'My Calendar' just tick it off in the settings. Then it defaults to the google calendar. Works this way since sgs 1 I think at least for me. I never have to choose the calendar when entering a new appointment with splanner in my google calender.
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unticking the "my calendar" doesnt solve those issues , if u try to add an event via the "quick event" tab , or even from the s memo (which is supposed to be a great feature for GNote) , then it will default to "my calendar" even if it is unticked , it will be added ! but hidden!! since that checkbox is made for "display" not "enable/disable calendar" .
that's the way it is for me,so the quick event and s memo/planner events linking and organizers are nothing but useless ! (which is supposed to be a feature for this phone)
I have to admit I don't know what the 'Quick event' tab is. I just use the + button within the s planner (if I use it at all as I prefer other applications to enter my appointments).
Also when I create an appointment via s memo it defaults to my google calendar.
Have you checked your sync settings of the google calendar (there is an extra sync checkbox for the calendar)?
To be more precise there is a checkbox for calender sync as part of your google account reachable via calendar or general account settings.
Goodm7sn said:
unticking the "my calendar" doesnt solve those issues , if u try to add an event via the "quick event" tab , or even from the s memo (which is supposed to be a great feature for GNote) , then it will default to "my calendar" even if it is unticked , it will be added ! but hidden!! since that checkbox is made for "display" not "enable/disable calendar" .
that's the way it is for me,so the quick event and s memo/planner events linking and organizers are nothing but useless ! (which is supposed to be a feature for this phone)
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+ button works, Quick Entry still defaults to My Calendar
olympicchicken said:
I have to admit I don't know what the 'Quick event' tab is. I just use the + button within the s planner (if I use it at all as I prefer other applications to enter my appointments).
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Very interesting. The + button does default to google calendar if I have My Calendar unticked. But quick entry by tap and hold still defaults to My calendar, which is stupid and annoying.
olympicchicken said:
If you don't need the 'My Calendar' just tick it off in the settings. Then it defaults to the google calendar. Works this way since sgs 1 I think at least for me. I never have to choose the calendar when entering a new appointment with splanner in my google calender.
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The settings you refer to are purely "view settings". IE what calendar you see when looking at s planner, nothing at all to do with sync.
The point here is There is NO SETTING to uncheck the calendars you do not wish to select from therefore you need to select one every time you add any event which is a massive PITA...
Mine happens to default at "reminders calendar" which is a twat because I myself use icloud calendar (caldav).
Top and bottom of it is the s planner is shi t e.
---------- Post added at 06:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------
My god, hopefully its only a matter of time and if we all persuade them: -
http://www.utilitap.com/weekcalendar/
Fantastic news...
Just had this email back from week calendar Dev: -
"Hi Peter, I have good new for you! We have a team working on a special Android version"
Cant wait!
Agenda & Agenda widget + birthdays
lol , this s planner thingy is either buggy or its got some kind weird , ridiculous and unproductive features !!!
i just stumbled upon another issue there , when i synced facebook contacts using friendcaster app , their birthdays were showing on the calendar (imagine the mess !) so i wanted to disable them.
since there is an option is s planner settings to untick the box for "show contacts birthdays" then its supposed to work right ? well it did somehow , the birthdays r no longer there on calendar monthly view , but on the agenda , they r still there !!! even on the agenda widget (which im using)
so to wrap this up ,, contacts birthdays will show up (and clutter) yr agenda and the agenda widget , no matter what u do (even if u untick birthdays display in the settings)..
please correct me if i am wrong but i dont think this is the way its suppose to work (at least it wasnt like that on my HTC Desire HD) .
Cheers.
olympicchicken said:
I have to admit I don't know what the 'Quick event' tab is. I just use the + button within the s planner (if I use it at all as I prefer other applications to enter my appointments).
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If you are in the 1 day, 3 days or week view, you can click on the timeline and 'Quick event' tab opens up which defaults to 'My Calendar' even though it is disabled. There is however button 'Edit event details' on the Quick Event window where calendar of choice is preselected. Thank God!!

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