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Hi, I have never done a ROM install o used a Nook so I am educating myself on all the options while my new Nook arrives. While I read through XDA some questions have popped up:
1. If I want to keep my stock Nook GUI and I root it and install the Market and ADW or LP etc, will I loose my Nook's original interface or can I call it up? I might want to keep it to read magazines and for the children's books features.
2. Can I OC a stock noot (rooted)?
3. Can I have 1 and 2 and then create a bootable SD with Honeycomb? Would I be able to use the market there without confusing it with the installed apps in the stock . I mean , can I have apps installed on the internal SD and some of the same apps in the external SD for when I use HC.
Thanks!
Garoto1973 said:
Hi, I have never done a ROM install o used a Nook so I am educating myself on all the options while my new Nook arrives. While I read through XDA some questions have popped up:
1. If I want to keep my stock Nook GUI and I root it and install the Market and ADW or LP etc, will I loose my Nook's original interface or can I call it up? I might want to keep it to read magazines and for the children's books features.
2. Can I OC a stock noot (rooted)?
3. Can I have 1 and 2 and then create a bootable SD with Honeycomb? Would I be able to use the market there without confusing it with the installed apps in the stock . I mean , can I have apps installed on the internal SD and some of the same apps in the external SD for when I use HC.
Thanks!
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1.- Yes, at least on OS version 1.1. This is how I have mine. Devs are still working on the OS 1.2 roots, but I see no reason why it won't work like that also when all is said and done.
2.- Not sure about this. I believe you need to install a new kernel, but I don't know if you can run the Nook's stock OS on top of an overclockable kernel. Also, I'm pretty new to the android scene, so I'm not sure what I've just said even makes sense.
3.- You can run a different OS off an SD card and keep the Nook Color itself stock. Honeycomb is not really ready for prime time, though, from what I've read.
Hi. Thanks for your reply. Then for starters I think I will root it and keep it stock . I see that there is a manual nooter for 1.2 available now but they are still working on making it 100% reliable.
For the kicks I will make an sd dual boot with Phiremod with OC kernel and Honeycomb for which there is a thread around.
First of all, really big KUDOS MUCHACHOS to the CM7 Dev guys! I had already donated a pretty hefty amount due to using CM7 so much on my Evo but I donated again cuz this is awesome! I do have a couple of questions tho, which I can't fine answers to. I did search for them but really had no luck. The NC community is not yet as organized as the EVO one, I am getting conflicting information and in general having a really ***** of a time finding anything so sorry if some of this has been answered(Im sure that's likely the case at least for some of them).
I used the size-agnostic SD card thing to make the SD Card i had into a CM7 install. Running the latest stable(as of 2 days ago). But thing of moving it all to internal memory. So here are my questions.
1: If I do this, will I be able to still access the real NC OS that shipped with the device? The Nook for Android app sucks, it won't play several of the books I already got(says they are invalid format when I try to DL them) so it is imperative to me that I keep access to the NC OS i have now(but I wouldn't care if it were on the SD card as long as it worked for reading books).
2: What will CM7 be like if I do this? I am gonna assume it won't take so long to boot anymore? Will it basically be a giant phone? Full access to the SD card? Still able to use the internal memory as storage(I use it to store music now)? Work exactly like my Evo does now? Except that it won't make calls of course.
3: Rooting. It seems that so many people are running CM7 that the guides/walkthroughs on rooting are hard to find. So a simple question or two pls Which method should I use? What, if any, are the drawbacks? I would still run CM7 most of the time but while in NC OS to read or something it would be nice to have access to android market etc as long as it wont effect my install of CM7.
4: CM7 nightlies. Can I run them from the SD card as well? If so can I just flash them right over my current SD card install without losing everything?
5: Can i run the OC Kernal while running CM7 from the SD card or do I have to run on Internal Memory for that to be possible?
Thanks for taking the time to read this pls answer any questions that you can I'd appreciate it so much!
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First of all, really big KUDOS MUCHACHOS to the CM7 Dev guys! I had already donated a pretty hefty amount due to using CM7 so much on my Evo but I donated again cuz this is awesome! I do have a couple of questions tho, which I can't fine answers to. I did search for them but really had no luck. The NC community is not yet as organized as the EVO one, I am getting conflicting information and in general having a really ***** of a time finding anything so sorry if some of this has been answered(Im sure that's likely the case at least for some of them).
I used the size-agnostic SD card thing to make the SD Card i had into a CM7 install. Running the latest stable(as of 2 days ago). But thing of moving it all to internal memory. So here are my questions.
1: If I do this, will I be able to still access the real NC OS that shipped with the device? The Nook for Android app sucks, it won't play several of the books I already got(says they are invalid format when I try to DL them) so it is imperative to me that I keep access to the NC OS i have now(but I wouldn't care if it were on the SD card as long as it worked for reading books).
2: What will CM7 be like if I do this? I am gonna assume it won't take so long to boot anymore? Will it basically be a giant phone? Full access to the SD card? Still able to use the internal memory as storage(I use it to store music now)? Work exactly like my Evo does now? Except that it won't make calls of course.
3: Rooting. It seems that so many people are running CM7 that the guides/walkthroughs on rooting are hard to find. So a simple question or two pls Which method should I use? What, if any, are the drawbacks? I would still run CM7 most of the time but while in NC OS to read or something it would be nice to have access to android market etc as long as it wont effect my install of CM7.
4: CM7 nightlies. Can I run them from the SD card as well? If so can I just flash them right over my current SD card install without losing everything?
5: Can i run the OC Kernal while running CM7 from the SD card or do I have to run on Internal Memory for that to be possible?
Thanks for taking the time to read this pls answer any questions that you can I'd appreciate it so much!
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I'll answer what I can.
1: Nope, stock ROM is replaced when you install CM7 to emmc. No way around it.
2: I'll have to defer on this one, I've always run from SD card. BTW, you are running from a class 2 card, right? The "faster" cards have serious issues.
3: My understanding is that you have to use ManualNooter for B&N 1.2. I haven't gotten around to rooting it since I upgraded to 1.2, but it was painless on the earlier ROM. There were no drawbacks, besides the fact that it's not CM7. ;-)
4: Yup, they just flash right over just as long as your following verygreen's instructions.
5: Yup, OC from SD works fine.
I don't know the specs on my SD card, it's whatever came with my EVO. I upgraded to a 32gb on the EVO so I used the old one for the Nook. My Evo is only a couple months old if that helps ya.
I have a nook color rooted (1.1) and i am trying to figure out how to go to 1.2. what i dont understand is the distinction/differences between manual nooting to froyo (going back to stock, doing the B&N upgrade, then the manual nooter to reroot) VS using CM7. What are the differences, advantages, disadvantages... would either get me froyo? do i have to go back to stock for either? or is it just two different approaches to the same end. can anyone can point me to a place to read up on this without having to read the entire site would be highly appreciated. thanks
Try this
I autonooted my NC back in February and avoided the upgrade, renooter process waiting until a new autonooter program came out (which it has not). So about 2 weeks ago I tried verygreen's sd-card mount of CM7 together with Dalingren's OC kernel. It is fantastic! Not at all hard to do either.
The Nook application from the android market is better than the native version, and, of course, I am also running Kindle and about 20 apps.
So while I cannot really answer the specifics of your question, I can encourage your through my own personal experience to try what I did.
Good luck.
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I have a nook color rooted (1.1) and i am trying to figure out how to go to 1.2. what i dont understand is the distinction/differences between manual nooting to froyo (going back to stock, doing the B&N upgrade, then the manual nooter to reroot) VS using CM7. What are the differences, advantages, disadvantages... would either get me froyo? do i have to go back to stock for either? or is it just two different approaches to the same end. can anyone can point me to a place to read up on this without having to read the entire site would be highly appreciated. thanks
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CM7 is gingerbread, or Android 2.3 and is a whole new OS. Your current 1.1 is Eclair (Android 2.1) and the new 1.2 stock is actually Froyo (Android 2.2).
The best way to go to 1.2, if that is your destination, is to go back to stock first, then upgrade to 1.2 via B&N and then do manual nooter. There are instructions on that whole process in the manual nooter link.
If you want to go to CM7, there's no point in even talking about 1.2 - they are completely different animals. You can either use a dual boot, CM7 on an SD card, or flash CM7 directly to the nook. I've never messed with dual boot, but you'll need a bootable SD card for most of the above anyway (look in the CM7 link above or here)
Now - the differences...
CM7 is pretty much wide open. The devs pour a lot of time into it so it has bluetooth, usb hosting and all kinds of other stuff. However, it's a whole different interface and isn't really meant to be a reader (the B&N android market app/reader just don't cut it compared to the stock ones, by most accounts). I like to think of it as CM7 is a cheap tablet that can be a reader and rooted stock as a reader than can double as a tablet. Both have overclocking kernels.
Personally, I prefer rooted stock, which is what's on all 3 of the ones in my family. But to each his own. Hope that helps you...
Yes, I should just read the threads, but...
Anyone wanna comment on...
1) dualbooting (nooted) stock w/CM7 on SD card, vs 2) CM7 flashed to NC...
...and 3) dualbooting CM7 flashed to NC, with (nooted) 'stock' on SD card?
I believe I read you can put stock on the SD card? Can you put (nooted) stock on SD?
Is there much difference/advantage to running CM7 flashed vs on SD card?
(not talking about stock OS availability, just the CM7 installation method/residence.)
How much SD space used by OS? Any hardware diffs/limits besides perhaps speed?
If dualbooting with SD card... such as 32GB ...can you use full capacity for OS, apps, storage? whether CM7 or stock is on SD card.
With stock on the NC... it's neatly official/updatable/resellable, with extra value SD card(s).
With stock on SD, it's a fallback... for a modded added-value 90+% 'tablet'.
Guess I'd lean toward (nooted) stock on NC, with CM7 (etc!) on SD's... unless CM7 flashed to NC would operate USB/bluetooth... so much better...?
CM7 on SD card will run slower than internal. Depending on your SD card, it may or may not be acceptably slow.
Here is something for the best of both worlds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156909
Or you can take the easy way and use stock for a few days. Then root it for a few days. And then try CM7 for a few. See which one you like most and keep it.
Ah, multi-boot...
Thanks for the multiboot link... now, there's a project. Have to take me NookC down for a bit... set aside time for that! Titanium bkp first. Test a spare SD card setup. Then plunge.
cm7 vs stock rooting
Thank you all.i set up cm7 on a16GB SD card and I would never go back. It is a much fuller and richer tablet experience. and bluetooth works though range is so short as to be unusable. starrting to get force close errors so I fixed permissions with root explorer which helped some. Now I have decided to flash cm7 to nook directly. speed has not been a problem but want to overclock... and other posts indicated that doing so will largely eliminate the fc errors.. the addiction begins. Thank you all again for the advice and encouragement. Btw one of the biggest pluses is that with cm7 I could install dsp and the sound from the speaker can now be easily heard. I actually h ave to turn it down sometimes because too loud if u can believe that!
Hi,
I just bought a nook color. I'm trying to install nightly cm9 on it. i have been reading and i have some questions .. please help i don't wanna turn my new nook into paperweight lol. I understand i need to make a bootable sd card with CWR on it. i understand there are newer version CWR out there now but I am only able to find 4gb version of 3.0.2.8. Will that cause a problem ? Do i have to use 4gb version CWR? I can find 1gb CWM 3.2.0.1 ( i have a 4g micro sd card ). About wiping, i know with android phones you always wipe before you flash roms but i have been reading, posts suggest to wipe cach and dalvik AFTER flashing cm and gapps. Is that the correct order to wipe? [GUIDE] Install CM7 or CM9(!) + Clockworkmod to EMMC - ALL NOOKS! (Updated:1/16/12) - xda-developers This post don't even mention wiping dalvik. So what exactly should i wipe and in what order? Also in that post it says after you flash, without rebooting you are to remove sd card and format it on a computer... since its a bootable CRW, the nook color doesnt even have the recovery on it , will removing the sd just cause it to crush ? Please help ~ Thank you.
Best advice is to go to the "development forum" and read the CM9/ICS nightly thread.Everything you need is in the first post.I would suggest you test your SD card with CrystalDiskMark 3.0(free program,google it up)first to see if it is suitable for a ROM install.
See the SD card strange thread in this forum first.
Don't worry too much about bricking your Nook Color. It is pretty much impossible to get it in a state which you can't recover from as it has priority on booting from the SD card.
That's not say you shouldn't try to get it right to avoid any hassle.
For an internal install use the Eyeballer SD clockwork recovery method as detailed in the development forum. When you image this to an SD then you always end up with a 1GB partition on the card irrespective of the real SD size. Don't worry about that as this is just a staging post and you just need space to put on the zips you want to install.
For CM9 use the "unofficial" nightly builds and put the main ROM, Gapps, and the telephony permissions fix on.
When you boot from this card you will be in Clockwork recovery. First time you want to format system, data, and cache then install ROM, Gapps and telephony fix in that order.
After that you want to put in a cleanly formatted single partition SD card, either by reformatting partitioning the installation one or a different one if you wanted to keep the original. It won't crash but some apps expect the Sd card to be present.
Once rebooted then you should be in CM9. You can install clockwork recovery to the internal memory as well by using the ROM Manager app. This means that if you reboot with the N key held down you get into a boot menu and can choose to go into recovery. That is very convenient for subsequent updates as you can just copy zips onto the SD card via USB or Wifi without having to remove the card (ES File Explorr app helps a lot here).
For small updates you can normally just format system and cache then reapply the set of zips. This will leave your set up and installed apps alone. You don't need to do Dalvik separately as it is in the cache partition.
Thanks and what is the "telephony permission fix" ?
bobtidey said:
Don't worry too much about bricking your Nook Color. It is pretty much impossible to get it in a state which you can't recover from as it has priority on booting from the SD card.
That's not say you shouldn't try to get it right to avoid any hassle.
For an internal install use the Eyeballer SD clockwork recovery method as detailed in the development forum. When you image this to an SD then you always end up with a 1GB partition on the card irrespective of the real SD size. Don't worry about that as this is just a staging post and you just need space to put on the zips you want to install.
For CM9 use the "unofficial" nightly builds and put the main ROM, Gapps, and the telephony permissions fix on.
When you boot from this card you will be in Clockwork recovery. First time you want to format system, data, and cache then install ROM, Gapps and telephony fix in that order.
After that you want to put in a cleanly formatted single partition SD card, either by reformatting partitioning the installation one or a different one if you wanted to keep the original. It won't crash but some apps expect the Sd card to be present.
Once rebooted then you should be in CM9. You can install clockwork recovery to the internal memory as well by using the ROM Manager app. This means that if you reboot with the N key held down you get into a boot menu and can choose to go into recovery. That is very convenient for subsequent updates as you can just copy zips onto the SD card via USB or Wifi without having to remove the card (ES File Explorr app helps a lot here).
For small updates you can normally just format system and cache then reapply the set of zips. This will leave your set up and installed apps alone. You don't need to do Dalvik separately as it is in the cache partition.
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Found the telephony fix thanks
A bit of unsolicited advice: if you are having these kinds of problems, then I suggest CM9 is not baked enough for you, and you may be much better off with a far more stable and better-documented CM7.x install. I am not being condescending... I myself am quite capable of extreme hacking and tolerant of an array of stability issues, being a Linux software engineer, but I just don't have the time or energy to put into making CM9 work right now, given the quantity of issues. For the hardcore Android hobbyist, CM9 is the way to go right now. For a NC user wanting a functional Android tablet, I say wait a little bit.
You might consider simply using the SD card boot ROM's, and leaving the internal Nook alone for the present. That would allow you to try out the various Rom's available and find one that works best for you. I'm currently running CM7.2 Kang on my emmc partition, but booting on SD card from the CM9 nightly builds. The CM7.2 Kang is quite stable, but not as much fun as the alpha ICS CM9 stuff. Best of both worlds.
I already have cm7 on my phone , hopefully its not gonna be the same thing lol . i was hoping to put cm9 on there so it will entertain me for a while but if its really that buggy mb i will consider just running on cm7.
mr72 said:
A bit of unsolicited advice: if you are having these kinds of problems, then I suggest CM9 is not baked enough for you, and you may be much better off with a far more stable and better-documented CM7.x install. I am not being condescending... I myself am quite capable of extreme hacking and tolerant of an array of stability issues, being a Linux software engineer, but I just don't have the time or energy to put into making CM9 work right now, given the quantity of issues. For the hardcore Android hobbyist, CM9 is the way to go right now. For a NC user wanting a functional Android tablet, I say wait a little bit.
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Thanks. I already have bobzhome 7.2 on my phone. The reason why i wanna cm* on my nook is because i don't read(i read enough for school XD ) haha so the nook factory rom will be kinda pointless for me. Also just booting from sd and flashing roms seem really straight forward to me so that's why i want to flash cm* on internal memory. As im not that knowledgeble about nook colors, running on a bootable rom still seem complicated for me but i sure will think about it .
brentb636 said:
You might consider simply using the SD card boot ROM's, and leaving the internal Nook alone for the present. That would allow you to try out the various Rom's available and find one that works best for you. I'm currently running CM7.2 Kang on my emmc partition, but booting on SD card from the CM9 nightly builds. The CM7.2 Kang is quite stable, but not as much fun as the alpha ICS CM9 stuff. Best of both worlds.
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when i was downloading cm7 roms , my anti virus kept saying there were viruses in the roms ... is that normal ?
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when i was downloading cm7 roms , my anti virus kept saying there were viruses in the roms ... is that normal ?
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How many places you going to ask this?
It is a false positive.
Normal? No. Crappy antivirus? Yes.
As long as you are downloading from links from the developers here you're safe.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA App
just making sure since im not very knowledge about nook colors. i rather ask more than do something stupid on my device and cause myself problems.
Benzoman said:
How many places you going to ask this?
It is a false positive.
Normal? No. Crappy antivirus? Yes.
As long as you are downloading from links from the developers here you're safe.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA App
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No problem. Just noticed it was in a separate thread already.
Please post what A/V you are talking about so others having the same issue will take note.
I'll also give a +1 to the people who suggested that you work off an SD card until you are really comfortable with the process. You can always recover your Nook, but why go through that hassle when the SD card is so easy.
Just my $.02
Dual booting SD
I agree with try the Dual boot off the SD card to see what you like. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957Verygreens process was simple to follow and I am newer at rooting also. Cheers.
I posted what a/v already. its kaspersky internet security. i guess i never look into running off SD. I don't read much so i just don't need nook color stock ROM, i guess that's also part of why i wanna run on internal memory. oh and i bought a refurbished nook color from BNs website and it came defective. part of the screen didn't work. To those who wanna buy it from them i suggest to buy from a retail store so u don't have to pay shipping and waste time I think all they did was a factory restore on a return and sell it again for 149.
TL2000 said:
Please post what A/V you are talking about so others having the same issue will take note.
I'll also give a +1 to the people who suggested that you work off an SD card until you are really comfortable with the process. You can always recover your Nook, but why go through that hassle when the SD card is so easy.
Just my $.02
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Im gonna buy a new nook color and i read that newer ones have different hardware. newer hardware aren't supported by CM7. I guess I'll have to try a nightly CM9 build.
The1Power said:
I agree with try the Dual boot off the SD card to see what you like. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957Verygreens process was simple to follow and I am newer at rooting also. Cheers.
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will CM7 work on a new nook color? i have read that it doesn't have some needed drivers.
mr72 said:
A bit of unsolicited advice: if you are having these kinds of problems, then I suggest CM9 is not baked enough for you, and you may be much better off with a far more stable and better-documented CM7.x install. I am not being condescending... I myself am quite capable of extreme hacking and tolerant of an array of stability issues, being a Linux software engineer, but I just don't have the time or energy to put into making CM9 work right now, given the quantity of issues. For the hardcore Android hobbyist, CM9 is the way to go right now. For a NC user wanting a functional Android tablet, I say wait a little bit.
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will CM7 work on a new nook color? i have read that it doesn't have some needed drivers.
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I just bought my nook color Dec. 30th, 2011 and I have ran cm7 as well as cm9. Like the others are saying, set up cm7 off of a SD card until you learn what you are doing then consider moving to the emmc.
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will CM7 work on a new nook color? i have read that it doesn't have some needed drivers.
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I believe that is CM9, not 7 that was having issues with the new nook color touch screen drivers.
Here's a post about it:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21333209&highlight=touchscreen#post21333209
Looks like it may already be fixed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21353661&highlight=touchscreen#post21353661
Hello,
I have just ordered from ebay a nook color. I bought it to use it as a ebook reader (mainly pdf), some youtubing, facebook, mail and web browsing.
It will arrive in 5-6 days, and i plan to install Mirage cm 7.2 as soon as i receive it (in my country i cant use the b&n store, so it makes sense to transform it in a real tablet).
However it isn't really clear in my mind how to do this. I understand there are various method of installation. I plan to use only the phone internal memory and no SD.
Is it possible to root without using an sd card?
Would mirage work with this setup?
How i have to partition the emmc to store my various ebooks, videos, and music and to install the rom?
Also, the only app i will use are: Dolphin Browser, ezpdf and mentano pdf reader, player pro and mxplayer. Would these work without sd?
Is it possible to overclock from mirage? (i think it is, but i ask just to be sure).
Thanks, and sorry for the noob questions, but at times xda is so full of guides and resources that is difficult put your head around with all those informations!
Cheers
You should really give the SD card installation a try first to make sure you get a clean build working on the SD card before flashing to your eMMC. There are directions for how to do this on this forum here and on the cyanogenmods wiki here. If you mess up on installing your cyanogenMod on the SD card at least you will have the stock nook ROM to fall back on to get your device up and going if you mess up rooting your device. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
After you got cyanogenMod working properly on the SD card and booted up in the nook color you can flash it to your eMMC later using clockworkmod through the program ROM manager. If you do not have an SD card I would advise on getting one, you will want one later for memory expansion for your nook color. Try to get a Sandisk Class 2 or Class 4 card.
Remember to check your MD5 sum hash files on your cyanogenmod download to make sure you got a uncorrupted build.
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If you want to root directly to your eMMC you will have to find a manual rooter that has been upgraded to root your nook color with the latest updates for the stock nook ROM. Here is one link to do it through the USB. http://androidadvices.com/root-nook-color-141-142-firmware-version/#.UBMlZ_38eSo
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You don't have to partition your eMMC, the stock nook ROM is on its own hidden partition, the other partition has files for your books, music, videos, ect already from the factory.
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CyanogenMod has a tweak setting for the applications to run either from the eMMC or the SD card and will give the correct permissions for that app to do so in most cases.
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Overclocking comes standard in all builds of cyanogenMod now, so yes you will be able to overclock in the cyanogenMod settings.
Thanks! I ended up buying a sandisk shdc 32gb class 4, and i plan to follow cyanogen mod installaton and then putting it on emmc. I think will be easy, i used cyanogen mod on my optimus for a long time, after some reading it doesn't seem difficult to root the nook.
Cheers