[Q] 1080p devs explanations and suggestions - Acer Iconia A500

As I read everywhere, our A500 has many probs reproducing video at 1080p, worse than this I've to say that I hadn't any luck even with 720p format.
I've tried mani different players, with or without added codecs, with hard and soft decoding, but the results are always poor.
I'm talking 'bout Utube films, but also some H264 or .mkv (perfectly working on every pc or notebook even with am embedded graphic adap.
So, what we're gonna do? wait for a solution embedded into the OTA final 3.1, or is it an hardware problem we are facing right now despite the technical declared data of the various OEMs? Isn't tegra2 capable to manage hi-res videos?
Some guru's technical explanation would be appreciate, in order to clarify this situation, at least to give us good reason to hope or to give up with further expectations...
...and in any case, I'm glad to thank you for thy wonderfull job I do in this forum

some facts,
- stock acer rom 3.1 plays 1080p mp4 material just fine through HDMI.
- it will not be possible to play a 720p movie on tv as 1080p require much scaling and looks lousy.
- desktop is only 1280x800 (close to 720p) so don't expect 1080p just like that, it would look awful(even with 720p its still 4x scaling). (i seen it on folio100) and LG Optimus 2x does it too..
I havent got any avi at 1080p, and no mkv's to test at 1080p.
the WMV 1080p i have did not switch screen res to 1080p when played, so maybe its just for mp4..

the screen Is actually larger... its 1280x800 you get 720 because it removes the bottom bar(this is done so you don't see stretching and it will look horrible)...
you cant get actually 1080... its a mirror... you cant mirror something to make it look bigger, Its just a workaround triggered by the hardware decoder... that gets you the 1080...

Dexter_nlb said:
some facts,
- stock acer rom 3.1 plays 1080p mp4 material just fine through HDMI.
- it will not be possible to play a 720p movie on tv as 1080p require much scaling and looks lousy.
- desktop is only 1280x800 (close to 720p) so don't expect 1080p just like that, it would look awful(even with 720p its still 4x scaling). (i seen it on folio100) and LG Optimus 2x does it too..
I havent got any avi at 1080p, and no mkv's to test at 1080p.
the WMV 1080p i have did not switch screen res to 1080p when played, so maybe its just for mp4..
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Do you mean 720 on the Acer screen or on the TV? Cuz when I play 720p thru HDMI the image is perfect.

Why when I plug my device into my 1080 HD TV I can never get the resolution correct, the closest I can get it is when I set it to wide but I see my device not fitting the screen it is larger, now I am just talking about my desktop not videos.
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thor2002ro said:
the screen Is actually larger... its 1280x800 you get 720 because it removes the bottom bar(this is done so you don't see stretching and it will look horrible)...
you cant get actually 1080... its a mirror... you cant mirror something to make it look bigger, Its just a workaround triggered by the hardware decoder... that gets you the 1080...
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Motorola Atrix(tegra2 baseD) do 2 separate screens. its indeed possible with tegra2 to have 2 different screen, i ported atrix release to folio100 and had a mediacenter on hdmi + android screen locally on tablet..
like with the 1080p playback, where you have a black screen on tablet, i think thats how 3.x handle it for now.. although its possible (since atrix has done it)
the chipset handles 2 screens fine, since atrix can do it, but vendors making the software is not making it possible, so what Google is doing is not much on this area, only motorola manage to do it, with their ubuntu + mediacenter + android solution.
lets hope someone else makes it.
thunderkiss65 said:
Why when I plug my device into my 1080 HD TV I can never get the resolution correct, the closest I can get it is when I set it to wide but I see my device not fitting the screen it is larger, now I am just talking about my desktop not videos.
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same issues found on pre-3.x tablets... ElocityA7 managed to fix it, but i dont remember if folio100 got it fixed (as almost no updates happened)
i guess they're starting over,.. my tv in "just scan" mode still shows acer incorrectly.. so its for sure possible to look forward to a fix for it..

Dexter_nlb said:
Motorola Atrix(tegra2 baseD) do 2 separate screens. its indeed possible with tegra2 to have 2 different screen, i ported atrix release to folio100 and had a mediacenter on hdmi + android screen locally on tablet..
like with the 1080p playback, where you have a black screen on tablet, i think thats how 3.x handle it for now.. although its possible (since atrix has done it)
the chipset handles 2 screens fine, since atrix can do it, but vendors making the software is not making it possible, so what Google is doing is not much on this area, only motorola manage to do it, with their ubuntu + mediacenter + android solution.
lets hope someone else makes it.
same issues found on pre-3.x tablets... ElocityA7 managed to fix it, but i dont remember if folio100 got it fixed (as almost no updates happened)
i guess they're starting over,.. my tv in "just scan" mode still shows acer incorrectly.. so its for sure possible to look forward to a fix for it..
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I can try to port the mediacentrer... have no ideea how the kernel will take it... or how the roms will react will try...

thor2002ro said:
I can try to port the mediacentrer... have no ideea how the kernel will take it... or how the roms will react will try...
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i just looked through the atrix section, and it seems that ppl experience only 720p with its mediacenter function, so it might be 2 diff. displays but still only 720p..
so probably not worth spending time on. but they do have some technique to split the picture.

Also..
What about that Bourne trailler ?? How come it plays perfect on the transformer and choppy on the iconia??
Hardware is supposed to be the same' so what is iconia missing??

anstelios said:
Also..
What about that Bourne trailler ?? How come it plays perfect on the transformer and choppy on the iconia??
Hardware is supposed to be the same' so what is iconia missing??
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link to it please....

Dexter_nlb said:
Motorola Atrix(tegra2 baseD) do 2 separate screens. its indeed possible with tegra2 to have 2 different screen, i ported atrix release to folio100 and had a mediacenter on hdmi + android screen locally on tablet..
like with the 1080p playback, where you have a black screen on tablet, i think thats how 3.x handle it for now.. although its possible (since atrix has done it)
the chipset handles 2 screens fine, since atrix can do it, but vendors making the software is not making it possible, so what Google is doing is not much on this area, only motorola manage to do it, with their ubuntu + mediacenter + android solution.
lets hope someone else makes it.
same issues found on pre-3.x tablets... ElocityA7 managed to fix it, but i dont remember if folio100 got it fixed (as almost no updates happened)
i guess they're starting over,.. my tv in "just scan" mode still shows acer incorrectly.. so its for sure possible to look forward to a fix for it..
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Thanks for responding dexter, What is odd in this video this guy has his tablet hooked up through hdmi and if you look close everything on hd tv looks the same as tablet, When i hook mine up to hd tv everything is oversized no matter what i set my hd tv to, Do you have the same issue when you try to play a game through your tablet..
http://www.youtube.com/user/ChuckChoi?blend=1&ob=5#p/u/0/sTbBTb-4WjA

thor2002ro said:
link to it please....
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http://www.dvdloc8.com/clip.php?movieid=12954&clipid=1
It played fine on the Xoom with 3.01 too. There was a review of the A500 on youtube a while ago and they were shocked that this trailer played fine on the Xoom but not the Iconia. It still doesn't play in the leaked Acer 3.1. It plays fine on the Transformer and Galaxy based roms though.
Here's the youtube review. The video is tested at around 10:40 to 12:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMmS8ObCMbA

my updated kernel I shipped to Dexter for some testing plays that trailer fluent

Guys the hdmi out audio is too bad........anyone experiancing this??.....is there a fix??
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thor2002ro said:
my updated kernel I shipped to Dexter for some testing plays that trailer fluent
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Well thats great!
Is it compatible with leaked acer 3.1 Roms??

anstelios said:
Well thats great!
Is it compatible with leaked acer 3.1 Roms??
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have no idea how the roms will work with it... I'm using asus based rom

I can confirm that the Bourne video lags like hell on my A500 with the leaked stock 3.1 update.

MichellBak said:
I can confirm that the Bourne video lags like hell on my A500 with the leaked stock 3.1 update.
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I know, it's exactly the same as the stock Acer 3.01 rom.
I hope that the leaked 3.1 isn't final otherwise I wonder wtf Acer have been doing all this time.

chr0m said:
I know, it's exactly the same as the stock Acer 3.01 rom.
I hope that the leaked 3.1 isn't final otherwise I wonder wtf Acer have been doing all this time.
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I'm guessing it's probably got something to do with the 1080p output being disabled for now, since it works with the kernels that have enabled that feature. Just guessing though - we'll have to see what Acer decides to do
On a side note, for people wondering, the video file in question is a 1080p H.264 encoded MP4 file with a rather high bitrate (didn't check the average, but some parts of the video exceeded 12 Mbps).

thor2002ro said:
my updated kernel I shipped to Dexter for some testing plays that trailer fluent
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i dont think its kernel issue..
Bourne movie playys perfectly with Galaxy rom with my kernel "angel" edition, which does not work with the "dextersiconia" rom, where bourne movie stutter.. so its drivers...any acer image has the issue.. so decoding issue is placed in the handling of the containers..
but firmware for chipset is different in galaxy/virt. images, compared to acer stock roms..

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HDMI out resolution

Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
brian29 said:
Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
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it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
dmc971989 said:
it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
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Thats what I thought. I was unable to get anything higher that 480p though. My tv is 1080p 120hz.
brian29 said:
Thats what I thought. I was unable to get anything higher that 480p though. My tv is 1080p 120hz.
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hmmm... well i wish i could help ya man, i dont have a cable yet
but hopefully someone smarter than I that has a cable will be able to figure this out
I doubt youtube even HQ is streaming in 1080p
EDIT: In fact, it'd be my guess the max output resolution is probly 720p (considering it can capture in 720p)
his gallery should be higher rez though. i doubt thsi phone has the power to play 720p compressed.
The max resolution on the camera's video capture is 1280x720, which is 720p. So I doubt the phone will output anything higher (like 1080p/i). In fact, I saw one reviewer that stated that he "thought" the phone *only* outputs 720p, upconverting any video to that resolution. But I don't think that has been verified. What I *can* verify is that video shot with the camera at 720p and shown on an HDTV shows EXTREME compression artifacts to the point that a lower resolution will probably give better results (although you will not get the 16:9 aspect ratio).
What about regular HD movies in 1080p/i that are saved onto your sd card. How did those do on your hdtv. Did they come out choppy or compressed at all? I'm waiting to get my hdmi cable to test it out myself.
it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
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Actually the specs never say 1080p, they say 720p. And from what i've seen that's only when outputting pics and videos form the gallery player.
We want to get netflix on our Evos and do the output to our TV's.
I wonder how the outout will look on that?
sitlet said:
Actually the specs never say 1080p, they say 720p. And from what i've seen that's only when outputting pics and videos form the gallery player.
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I have seen it somewhere listed... ill attempt to find it and post back
I remember seeing a post on engadget a couple weeks back with a video demoing the ability to play youtube hq through HDMI. they were watching a video that had paint splashing around in slow motion. It looked great! Last night I tried to watch a couple of youtube videos that were hq quality with the hdmi cable plugged into my tv and they looked horrible. I thought it might be a setting on the phone, but I could not find one.
brian29 said:
Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
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I have the same problem with youtube. It seems that it does not use 720p, even in "HD", it seems the "HD" is actually 480p (the EVO screen resolution). Another problem with youtube on EVO (as opposed to TP2) is that unless you click "HD" there is no way to stretch the video to full screen, even when viewed on the EVO screen. This is one of the most unfortunate things I've found when trying to impress my iPhone loving friends. On the TP2, youtube was surprisingly excellent, it filled the entire screen and looked fantastic (without an "HD" option) the EVO seems to have actually taken a step back (albeit a small step) in that department.
While using the HDMI cable to my TV, it will output 720p videos (taken with the phone camera or made with handbreak.) However, it will not scale anything up. So if you create a video at the 800x480 EVO screen resolution, it will display in the center of your TV (not fill the entire screen.) I've not yet tried 1080p, considering the 1600mbs (realistic) encoding limitation, I don't think 1080p will be a good idea even if it does work, just stick with 720p.
So 720P movies and stuff will work just fine?
Can it display the UI of the device and other apps...or only multimedia content?
engagedtosmile said:
So 720P movies and stuff will work just fine?
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Yes, 720p at 1500mb/s works.
Grims said:
Can it display the UI of the device and other apps...or only multimedia content?
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Only multimedia content, no UI.
TheMostToys said:
Only multimedia content, no UI.
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That sucks, was hoping (not expecting) to be able to hook up to a big screen on occasion for some apps.
Think it is possible to could be done via software?
Grims said:
That sucks, was hoping (not expecting) to be able to hook up to a big screen on occasion for some apps.
Think it is possible to could be done via software?
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This x 1,000.
I'm still not sure if I'm getting an EVO or Streak, but both have HDMI, and either way, I want to be able to hook my device up to a monitor and use it in the same fashion that I would my netbook (i.e. light web browsing, very light office/doc work, maybe some light games).
Basically, I'm looking to get rid of my netbook and replace it with my new smartphone...but I have to break out to a larger display from time to time.
hexydes said:
This x 1,000.
I'm still not sure if I'm getting an EVO or Streak, but both have HDMI, and either way, I want to be able to hook my device up to a monitor and use it in the same fashion that I would my netbook (i.e. light web browsing, very light office/doc work, maybe some light games).
Basically, I'm looking to get rid of my netbook and replace it with my new smartphone...but I have to break out to a larger display from time to time.
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Exactly what I was getting at. I am trying to replace my laptop for the most part. This would be a big step forward in that area.

1080p recording update....

Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
they did say its coming, didnt say in which particular update. They did say that in this one that just came out will come hsupa and they delivered. So just wait, patience.
KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...
KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Motorola Milestone was advertised with flash. People complained, and eventually Froyo was released.
Moto support forums is the best place to bring this to their attention...
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What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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We should be getting both.
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I had 1080 working with LG camera, i believe the chip supports 30 fps 720, 23 fps 1080. When it records in it, it looks like 1080, but its choppy. If it wasnt id be using LG camera for everything, but the sound cuts out sometimes. Its good for a nature scene, slow moving, lots of detail, little distortion. 720 for fast action, nice colors and sound
TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.
CaelanT said:
What I thought we were getting was not 1080p recording, but 1080p playback. This would allow playing of 1080p movies in hi def displays through the entertainment center. As usual, I am more likely wrong though.
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Yup. Moto rep said we'll get 1080p playback but not recording.
creativedevil said:
We would rather want to refrain from suing them and force them getting things in place.
They said all the missing features will be corrected with updates, they didn't have a list at the time of announcing them...
Just be patient is a better option for us as Devs hard at cracking the boot loader will definitely come up with a solution faster than Motorola does. This phone is pretty much brand new player in market... Phone eventually hopefully be updated to either Gingerbread officially or Devs will get some ROM up and running... regardless, give or take about 6 months more to go...
Wait and pray... not to god... To all the Devs hard at work...
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I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL
KingKuba13 said:
Motorola says what 1080p recording
Can someone actually sue them for this? Doubt it.
Future updates = most likely you won't get it and we don't give a **** either
At least the devs are half way there, sort of..
Anyone actually hear any different because that's the word I got straight from moto.
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Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.
chromedome00 said:
Please post source for 1080p recording - it is not in any specs.
And yes, you can sue anyone for anything. Winning is another story.
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It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.
KingKuba13 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/
Actually it was on the official spec early.
Even if it did come it probably be half-assed anyway at 24fps or lower.
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If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
I did see a screen capture in one of those early articles, my guess is that it was later changed, and is no longer in the plans.
unsl said:
TLDR: What andrew1234abc said.
I'm currently running 1.5.7 and the lgcamera app, and have 1080p videos from it. It wasn't particularly easy, and they aren't particularly pretty, but it does work.
My settings are 1920x1080 resolution, default vid encoder, 3gpp video file format, 13Mbit video bitrate, and 30 video framerate. Audio settings of default. I never did figure out which setting(s) was giving me trouble, but had problems until I landed on this setup and just left these ever since.
Not sure why this works or why they haven't updated our camera software. Obviously the hardware is there and just waiting for the lazy asses at moto to slap a GUI on it. Oh well, I think I like the LG interface a lot more anyways.
Also, it looks like I have been using this since 4/11 so it worked in 1.2.6 as well. Cant confirm 1.8.3, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Attached is the vitals on the file produced by LGCamera. Like I said, not perfect, but if you are dying for 1080p it looks like our only choice right now.
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I've been playing around with LGcamera app myself for a bit.
I find the stock 720p looks better than the 1080p on whatever setting you use with LG. What settings did you find look the best with 720p?
I think I've only took one video that looked decent, everything else looks kind of average. Very grainy. Idk, maybe I'm expecting too much from a phone. lol
You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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KingKuba13 said:
It was mentioned in all press releases ever since the CES. Obviously its not written on the box for a reason.
I was kidding about the suing. I love my atrix but does it really take over 4 months for a real company to do a small updated they kept talking about forever.
I'm on Bell so lol at my getting any updates anyway.
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4mths? Phones been out for a little over 2.
BravoMotorola said:
I love how everyone refers to the plain and simple "devs" like there's some office building filled with "devs" and they sit there and work on cracking the bootloader and doing stuff to phones. We don't have that many developers for the Atrix. And the developers are just regular people that decided to take action and work to make the phones we use better instead of just sitting around and waiting for the "devs" to do something. This is no complaint, it just makes me LOL. Haha and capitalize Devs and not God why dontcha LOL
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They give the developement community way too much credit and I'm not trying to take anything away from those guys. It's just ridiculous to expect these guys to crack the bootloader. I guarantee you they wont this is way beyond their ability and no measly $3000 bounty is going to change that.
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phobos512 said:
You are correct - people misread the original note and then as often happens on the internet the idea got out of control. The idea was to implement 1080p playback (I'm guessing to external devices), not 1080p recording. But the sheeple hopped on the bandwagon and now we get threads like this...
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chromedome00 said:
If you go to the official spec that the story references:
http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Fact-Sheet-353b.aspx (note this page is dated Jan 5)
You will see it never mentions 1080P recording - anywhere. It says:
HD 1080 p capable
Capture – 720p MPEG4 and H.264 at 30 fps
Playback – 1080p MPEG4, H.264, WMV, Xvid at 30 fps
(Playback through HDMI is 720p at launch and will be upgraded to 1080p via SW upgrade post-launch)
Streaming – VGA in MPEG4, H.264, H.263 at 30 fps
I am waiting for anyone to show where it ever said 1080p capture or recording - I have never seen this anywhere on an official spec. Only speculation or mis-interpretation.
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It's a little more complex than that. It was originally stated we would get 1080P capture and the Motorola Page used to say this in the official specs.
The image in the screen in this story is what the specs page used to look like before Moto switched it all up: (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-will-enable-atrix-4gs-1080p-video-recording-in-post-la/)
Long, short- Motorola promised it and reneged in a low key way.
EDIT: Now that I think more about it, search this forum and you will probably find the post of the user who first noticed that the specs page changed.

1080p hdmi out...

I thought 3.1 Will bring 1080p hdmi support....but no...it didn't.....thrn I thought 4.010.40 will bring it(as per the changelog)....but still the same.....is everyone having the same issue or my tab exceptionly shows only 720p...!?
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Running .40 version and 1080p hdmi out works but it is not smooth at all. It plays normally for a while then the picture pauses for a second then continue this behavour randomly.
Remember to play 1080 video file, so it will automatically switch from 720 to 1080.
Ooh interesting.
I'm not too surprised if the tablet can't decode 1080p but do other stuff work ok with 1080p output?
ie how does it work?
Does the external screen act like a second screen running at 1080 resolution?
I'm more interested in 'normal' apps like QuickOffice or more importantly, RDP running at .. well, whatever resolution this thing can output at... 1920x1080?
MrBoingy said:
Ooh interesting.
I'm not too surprised if the tablet can't decode 1080p but do other stuff work ok with 1080p output?
ie how does it work?
Does the external screen act like a second screen running at 1080 resolution?
I'm more interested in 'normal' apps like QuickOffice or more importantly, RDP running at .. well, whatever resolution this thing can output at... 1920x1080?
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Unfortunately, they didn't put much thought into this (probably Nvidia's lack of foresight). The HDMI will only push 1080p video when playing a 1080p source, which it is hardly capable of doing. All other times it will be 720p.
What's the point in that?
I can only assume that app developers will be able to specify what resolution their apps can output in.
eg RDP app devs can allow the app to output at 1920x1080... and NOT mirror the tablet screen.
Or maybe Angry Birds to be in full screen, rather than having to scroll sideways.
Surely it's not purely for video which it can't play anyway.
Just plugged mine into an external screen and I can't figure out a way to demo this new feature whatsoever.
Unless this update is for .40 only.. I only got updated to .38 this morning.
MrBoingy said:
What's the point in that?
I can only assume that app developers will be able to specify what resolution their apps can output in.
eg RDP app devs can allow the app to output at 1920x1080... and NOT mirror the tablet screen.
Or maybe Angry Birds to be in full screen, rather than having to scroll sideways.
Surely it's not purely for video which it can't play anyway.
Just plugged mine into an external screen and I can't figure out a way to demo this new feature whatsoever.
Unless this update is for .40 only.. I only got updated to .38 this morning.
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I believe .38 and .40 are the same....its just the different regions....
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duongla said:
Running .40 version and 1080p hdmi out works but it is not smooth at all. It plays normally for a while then the picture pauses for a second then continue this behavour randomly.
Remember to play 1080 video file, so it will automatically switch from 720 to 1080.
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Are you sure you were playing 1080p baseline-profile, not normal- or high-profile content?
Partially in reply to myself and to duongla: I just tried both with 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile. Both are smooth as butter. Only 1080p non-baseline starts stuttering. As such I'd say he was trying to play non-baseline-1080p video.
WereCatf said:
Partially in reply to myself and to duongla: I just tried both with 720p high-profile and 1080p baseline-profile. Both are smooth as butter. Only 1080p non-baseline starts stuttering. As such I'd say he was trying to play non-baseline-1080p video.
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Thanks. Actually I do not know what the profile is. Can you recommend what software to determine video profile ?
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Thanks. Actually I do not know what the profile is. Can you recommend what software to determine video profile ?
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No, sorry. I have absolutely no idea what software would do that, all the ones I have only show that it's H.264, they don't show the profile in use at all. Kinda lame. :/
I just bought an HDMI cable to watch netflix on my computer and I have an older HDTV, from 2004. It has HDMI input but it doesn't allow 720p for some reason so I get the little Android dude with the 720p bubble. How can I change the output to 1080i? Is there even a way. I'm running Thor's ICS v96.
FireMedicDave said:
I just bought an HDMI cable to watch netflix on my computer and I have an older HDTV, from 2004. It has HDMI input but it doesn't allow 720p for some reason so I get the little Android dude with the 720p bubble. How can I change the output to 1080i? Is there even a way. I'm running Thor's ICS v96.
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You can't force a resolution, the tablet tries to output whatever the content is. The netflix app will not do 1080i, at least as far as I know. I'd suggest figuring out why your TV won't do 720p. All the 1080i capable TVs I've ever seen could do 720p no problem.
(Also, this may have been better suited in a new thread, you bumped a 7 month old thread)
1080 or 720 are automaticaly swiched

H264 High Profile video decoding on Iconia Tab examples

This is just a video comparation for two roms we have for our Iconia Tab.
NOTE: I'm talk about video decoding, not about any other feature on both roms.
First. Acer Stock based rom 3.1 (it sucks)
Second. Samsung Galaxy Tab based rom 3.1 (Use 1.0.4 update1)
Check it up and if you want better video playing you know galaxy rom its better for this.
You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.
WereCatf said:
You're not saying if that's 1080p high-profile or 720p high-profile. Why does it matter? Well, because 720p high-profile works just fine on the stock ROM and if what you're playing is 720p high-profile then you either have something really screwed up with your tab or you're deliberately trying to "prove" how superior the galaxy ROM is.
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Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2. About roms yes TALKING ABOUT VIDEO PLAYING the galaxy rom its the best of Asus,Acer,Motorola,Toshiba,samsung. Tested on every single rom on this forum just flashed and fresh. If I post this if for those who like to watch videos. Its the only thing that I can say Galaxys rom is best.
personally i found galaxy's rom a little laggy in other terms like browsing and stuff but I really like to watch videos on the tab and this rom its my choice for this task.
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Obviously its 720p high no chance with 1080 on tegra2.
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What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.
1080p HP is for tegra3 fyi guys
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What's the point then? Stock ROM DOES play 720p high-profile just fine.
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+1 to Werecatf
I don't really understand. 720p HP works fine on my 100% stock Iconia. I use doubletwist, moboplayer and the default movie player and they all work perfectly, so if you're having issues (especially what I see in that video) I'm going to say it's something related to your tablet or that it was tested using the older 3.0.1 builds.
obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
I dont know why samsung HC play better that videos.
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obviously NOT all videos are the same, there is a video that probe it. I have several videos, that iconia with stock doesn't play smoothly, aleast not in main or high profile.
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Give a link to the said videos then.
For example the Simpsons Movie trailer from http://www.h264info.com/clips.html is 720p Quicktime-profile, ie. non-standard, non-baseline, and works just fine. The Rise of the Silver Surfer video is high-profile 720p and that too plays without an issue, no lag, no nothing.

[Q] A500 and 1080p video?

I don't own an A500, I normally hang out in the A100 sub-forum,but I came across Lisa Gade'sreview of the A500 from back in April:
http:// http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Acer-Iconia-Tab-A500.htm
"Oddly, the Acer fell on its face in the graphics department, where it failed to play 1080p video (720p and lower are fine). It managed around 2-4fps with the same 1080p MPEG4 test clips that played perfectly on other Honeycomb tablets. Now there's not much of a point in playing 1080p video to the internal display since its native resolution only supports 720p, but this is a problem if you want to play 1080p out via the micro HDMI port. We're not sure what went wrong here, and we hope that Acer addresses the issue."
So, out of curiosity, has the problem she noted been recognized, and if so has it been fixed?
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So, out of curiosity, has the problem she noted been recognized, and if so has it been fixed?
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The first HC 3.0 ROM that A500 ships with didn't support H/W accelerated 1080p video, true. The later ROMs, starting from HC 3.1 do support baseline- and normal-profile 1080p H/W acceleration, only high-profile 1080p is still software.
Hope this answers the question.

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