microphone quality - Eee Pad Transformer General

What is the quality of the built in microphone and using it with google voice to text? The reason I am asking is that I currently have an acer A500 and the voice to text does not work very well.
Certain easy words or phrases it picks up fine, but others it just mangles bad no matter how clearly you try to speak.
How does the voice to text work for you?
Rob

silverball.slayer said:
What is the quality of the built in microphone and using it with google voice to text? The reason I am asking is that I currently have an acer A500 and the voice to text does not work very well.
Certain easy words or phrases it picks up fine, but others it just mangles bad no matter how clearly you try to speak.
How does the voice to text work for you?
Rob
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did you try to record and listen to your voice? on TF it's awful, incomprehensive. it's sabotage!
Put a video on Youtube to show the result

I've never tried google voice-to-text. However, google voice search works pretty well on the TF101. While the quality of the microphone is relevant to voice recognition results, a perfectly good microphone could yield crap for voice recognition because of the voice recognition software that's processing it. The microphone on the TF101 is good enough for voice - whether that yields good voice recognition is another story.
Bye.

CrunchyDoodle said:
I've never tried google voice-to-text. However, google voice search works pretty well on the TF101. While the quality of the microphone is relevant to voice recognition results, a perfectly good microphone could yield crap for voice recognition because of the voice recognition software that's processing it. The microphone on the TF101 is good enough for voice - whether that yields good voice recognition is another story.
Bye.
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Just now, on google search I tried 4 sentences with integrated microphone and the same four with headset microphone :
integrated microphone recognizes one word or two
Headset microphone recognizes every single word.
try to record yourself with headset and without. You'll see the difference.

just purchased the TF a few days ago. And jeeeeeeeeez this internal mic is awful.... it makes recording any video or type of audio pointless. I'm not sure how Asus could put such a crap mic into a 500$ unit..

toukhang said:
just purchased the TF a few days ago. And jeeeeeeeeez this internal mic is awful.... it makes recording any video or type of audio pointless. I'm not sure how Asus could put such a crap mic into a 500$ unit..
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You're right it's a big crap! shame on ASUS. but look how few people are interested about that.
but look, not only recording is awful. People don't understand you on Skype or Gtalk.
as I mentioned it before, a good microphone wouldn't raise Transformer's price significantly.
So I repeat : SHAME ON ASUS!

It seriously is a ****ty mic, but fortunately, I don't need it.. yet.

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I agree wholeheartedly. The mic sucks on TF101. I used my tab to video my rc helicopter flight in the living room and either got hardly any audio or audio with a high pitched whine. I paid $499 for this puppy. My $100 dollar camera does a better job. Heck the mic on my $79 dollar mp3 player works better.
I guess for short youtube or facebook video's I need to pick up a real video camera.
Yay! Another electronic gadget coming my way.

I find it works best if you're very close to the mic, like sharing the same pillow.
A decent phone is probably better, both for rear facing camera and mic.
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There is a way to improve the quality of the microphone? Even changing Roma have no real improvement?

the microphone is very poor. you notice that if you tap on the back of the tablet when recording it picks it up very loudly, but speaking into the microphone you can hardly hear anything.
video chat (gtalk seems to work best) is just about usable but you have to sit close and talk loud.
like the guy said, it wouldn't have cost a lot more to put in a better mic - i would have paid an extra £10 for something decent.

I tried to record a lecture with the microphone. Its so muffled and so bad that i was acutally amazed by how asus can market it to students. The camera is also of very bad quality.
What the f were they thinking....
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[Q] Video Camera Mic Sensitivity?

Hi everyone,
I've had my Vibrant with me at a local music festival this weekend, and thought it would be a fantastic time to exercise the HD video capture. Unfortunately, every single video I've taken has had such terrible audio that it's unwatchable. I kept digging around in camera settings but found that there's no way to adjust the mic sensitivity. Anyone else have a similar experience or any idea of a workaround?
In my experience the Vibrant's got excellent mic sensitivity and the sound quality is even quite good. Unfortunately, this means that things like concerts are going to be distorted. I've actually seen very few video cameras that can properly record a live concert, much less ANY cell phone.
I absolutely understand that recording a live concert through a microphone designed around voice for telephony is not going to be in any way, shape or form, ideal. I feel like the Vibrant could do better. I just wonder if it's something that could be corrected for in software, if it's a hardware limitation, or if it's just my particular unit. My dad was also with me at the festival, and recorded the same shows using my old Blackberry 9700. The Blackberry did a markedly better job.. It's not what I would call good by any means, but the video isn't intolerable to watch for memory's sake. I just find it frustrating since the phone takes such incredible video. I agree that it does very well in low volume situations, and I absolutely love the phone overall.
I have a couple of comparison example videos on Youtube from the festival but due to my new user status I can't post a link to them. PM me if you're interested.
I also took my phone to a trance festival, the image is amazing but the sound is rubbish. I was also standing very close to the speakers so I don't really blame the mic since it's not really built to handle such a strong volume input.
If there is a possible way to fix it software wise that would be great, but I'm no that optimistic about the chance it's fixable that way.
I agree, the sound just pops... Same song recorded by the og droid was MUCH BETTER... of course my video LOOKED amazing.
I agree my wife and I recently went to the Honda Civic Tour. I used my Vibrant while a friend used one of those little flip HD cameras. We both got the same picture quality however, her sound was amazing. The thing I find funny is those cameras only cost like $249.
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TGA_Gunnman talks about the same thing here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734515
Though doesn't say exactly which one of the settings is what adjusts the mic gain.
I too would be very greatful to know how to turn the thing down.
-Greg

How you guys find the audio quality of the phone?

I'm pretty curious to know since GSMArena lambasted the audio output of the device when playing via headphones.
How do you guys find the quality? Acceptable?
I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.
A Dustman said:
I find it to be pretty good, even with the earphones that came with it.
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How about the speaker where we listen to other people when we are on a call?
And other people hear you well?
People on call sound very clear, and I haven't had any complaints from people while I'm talking to them.
sound quality is fine i have no complaints or issues reported from people i have called or have called me speaker phone is good no issues there unless the volume is all the way up it will distort but that is the same for most phones i beleive
i also have it paired with the sexii SE HBH is800 and have no issues
PS im loving the phone
Tough choice... I wish the screen is 4inch thou. The price point is ideal for an early adopter set.
Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!
Commander Data said:
Just want to add my two bits:
The phone call audio quality is actually very good. I had the Milestone (Droid) before and this is better. The audio quality through headphones is also good.
Where it isn't so good is for speakerphone. I don't use that very often, but if you listen to music out loud all the time, this probably isn't the phone for you (get a Surround!).
P.S. I am also in love with my phone!
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Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!
Necroman_AI said:
Thanks for all your answers!
Commander Data one question, i dont listen to music that much, but now and then i like too. Do you mean the speakerphone is bad quality or low volume?
I'm also concerned because i use a lot of calls on speakerphone... What are your opinions?
Thanks in advance!
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It's certainly manageable. I just had a 15 minute conversation on speakerphone and the other person seemed to be able to hear me fine and I could hear them fine, it's just not excellent. I came from the Milestone, which has a superb speaker. I would say the speaker on the LG is probably half the size so it really comes down to volume. If you crank it, it gets fairly distorted (especially on calls), but at medium volume there is no distortion and you can hear it fine. In other words, it is not a selling feature on the phone, but not a detractor (I had a Blackberry before this and it wasn't as good on speakerphone). Personally, the LG's superior built quality all around is more than enough to make up for a middle of the road speaker. I think gsmarena complained about the speaker because the rest of the phone is truly at premium class and they would have liked to have seen the speaker at the premium level too.
Edit: I should note that the conversation I had on speakerphone had two other people listening in with me and they heard fine.
Thanks Commander

Very bad audio hardware on the Note 2 / S3... :(

Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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:laugh::good:
vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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1st off that eim003 is NOT a "high-quality linear measurement mic". high-quality linear measurement mics like those from dpa cost thousands of euros/dollars....heck any decent microphone costs $$$. and this microphone claims to do that for 35 euros?
secondly whenever you see beautiful ultra smooth frequency response graphs....those are just artistic lies. so dont believe any of it. real resonse graphs are really jaggy.
third ...the type of microphone it is....an omni...doesnt hype up the bass in any way. so if the source isnt bassy the recording wont be bassy. typical (non omni) vocal mics have something called proximity effect...iow the closer you hold the mic to the source...the bassier it gets. omni mics do not do this.
fourth it could be that the analog input on the phone is cutting the bass frequencies...because most of the time external mics on phones are meant to record the spoken voice...which shouldnt have bassy frequencies.
fifth it could just be that the speakers youre listening on are bass deficient and coupled with reason #3...well...
keep in mind most pop recordings add in the bass artificially.
sixth...I dont know if the n2 or s3 supports usb mics but that may be a path to try out...because it would bypass the audio path on the phone...and already hit the phone in digital.
hope this sheds some light...
springer.music said:
I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
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What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
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Muwhahahaha! :laugh:
distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
con_ritmo said:
distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
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Yup I know, I tried with other apps but none of them record bass frequencies like the stock app and recuding the gain removes the "color" of the music
Both of the suggestions you gave, sadly, aren't obtainable
as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
con_ritmo said:
as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
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Well I'm just trying to get the best sound without having to spend too much money
TMaLuST said:
What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
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All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
springer.music said:
All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
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Well thanks for the input.
I have an external USB audio interface and it powers up but there is no way I can use it with my note. I think it needs some drivers :/
FloatingFatMan said:
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^^ This.
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EvoYas said:
^^ This.
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Well this doesn't mean that we can't search a way to improve it
We should have USB audio interface support soon
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=363102&sid=cb542f89bf6342383e9a8ca70521e6a5
This should allow you to connect _any_ microphone via a USB audio interface. Granted the audio interface will probably need to be mains powered.
But, it should also allow you to connect any standard USB mic dirctly via an OTG cable.
I was thinking of buying the iMic, but now that Davy has announced that his USB audio solution is almost complete, I think I will buy a Samson GoMic and use that instead. About the same level of portability, but the quality should be better.
If you don't already use it, you should check out his Audio Evolution app it is the best multi track recorder for Android by a long way.
The best idea might be to get a portable recorder with a couple of condenser mics on it. Then you would bypass the amps and dacs in the phone. You could then plubg the recorder in to the phone through usb host and import the tracks into your editor.
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I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
vessk0 said:
I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
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not to be a downer but i went ahead and listened to the youtube link and a few other eim003 review videos...and to be honest they all sound pretty bad on my monitors over here...shrill and "essy" the impressive bass at 1:50 is just an illusion...the guy was cranking his car stereo which had a subwoofer. so with that in mind, the mic actually didn't pump out a lot of bass at all (compared to the amount of bass that i imagine was coming from his system). and remember, if you're just recording things acoustically, you typically aren't going to run into those artificial amounts of bass.
why doesn't the OP post up a sample recording so we have something to compare to....because honestly i didn't hear anything "great" from the eim003 sample videos...
Yes, after a few tests at my home HI-FI system, obviously you are right, but it is way better than stock mics and handles much more SPL.
BTW, I found a solution for improve the recording. Samsung has limited the input signal via HPF filter. I went into the conf files in system/etc and modified a few settings ther. Now it records more bass with stock mics and external one. I turned off the HPF filter and swtched it to "hi-fi" mode.
I used the S3 theme to do that. :good:
I think that the mic has a potential with a better preamp. It is firstly made for iDevices.
PS: If you think there is a better mic for this money, you can tell me.

Sister needs a good smartphone for school, how is the audio recording quality?

She plans on recording 1 to 2 hour lectures on a 3rd party audio recording app. I know the stock camera audio quality is horrendous but that doesn't matter to her if the audio quality is good on 3rd party apps.
I've heard so many complaints about the audio recording, but should she buy the phone to record lectures on something like Simple Voice Recorder?
We had this chap at the uni who professionally video recorded the whole year. failed every single module.
There are three ways to learning;
1- reading
2- writing
3- practicing
Listening would never be in the list. Tell her to stop being lazy.
calyxim said:
We had this chap at the uni who professionally video recorded the whole year. failed every single module.
There are three ways to learning;
1- reading
2- writing
3- practicing
Listening would never be in the list. Tell her to stop being lazy.
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She is not lazy. She studies everywhere, every occasion even past midnight and gets straight A's. She does whatever it takes to make sure she doesn't miss anything, and so she needs a smartphone with a good mic. Please don't judge my sister who you do not know.
Can someone give me their opinion on the audio recording quality?
I use Smart Voice Recorder (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andrwq.recorder) and you can set the recording quality e.g. bit rate etc.
I've only ever used it in CD quality (maximum it will do) and it's excellent (although yesterday recorded a meeting which was 1hr 45mins and it took up 550mb as it records as a .wav!! I then used Media Converter - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AndroidA.MediaConverter to convert it to mp3 though.) I'm sure it works well in lesser quality too though. You're right the stock app is useless
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I use Smart Voice Recorder (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andrwq.recorder) and you can set the recording quality e.g. bit rate etc.
I've only ever used it in CD quality (maximum it will do) and it's excellent (although yesterday recorded a meeting which was 1hr 45mins and it took up 550mb as it records as a .wav!! I then used Media Converter - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.AndroidA.MediaConverter to convert it to mp3 though.) I'm sure it works well in lesser quality too though. You're right the stock app is useless
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Actually, I have a Nexus 4 myself. It's hard for me to test lecture recordings because I don't go to school anymore. But your enthusiasm gives me confidence. I don't want to recommend a phone to my sister and have her hate me for recommending a bad phone. I tested the recording myself with google keep and easy voice recorder and I can tell you the audio quality and volume input depends on the app.
calyxim, I do agree that audio recording lectures are ineffective (at least for me). I'm not going to just say it won't work for my sister, even if scientific studies show it is ineffective. If she still does and sees results, then I think she should do it.
I don't think audio recording is ineffective depending on the application of it. The best practice is to write notes and have the recording for reference. You can't write down everything that is said, so it is helpful to have a recording, should you have the need to better interpret your notes or for better clarification. The the second mic for noise cancelation on the N4 seems to do a poor job. I'm not sure with audio recording only, as I do none of that, but with video plus sound, it is horrible. I would find it hard to recommend this phone for that purpose.
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PH-1 uses noise-cancelling mic for voice recording

If you have ever used your PH-1 to record your voice (eg. Telegram or WhatsApp voice note) in a noisy environment, you would have probably realised that it is practically unusable. It would appear that the reason for this is that PH-1 uses the rear-facing noise-cancelling microphone for voice recording rather than the microphone at the bottom. You can test this yourself by using a voice recording app from the Play Store and tapping on each microphone. Comparatively, my wife's OnePlus 3T uses the correct microphone and the difference is night and day.
I have only ever had Android P on my PH-1, so I cannot be sure that this isn't related purely to the latest builds or not. Can someone confirm that this is also happening on Oreo?
StNickZA said:
I have only ever had Android P on my PH-1, so I cannot be sure that this isn't related purely to the latest builds or not. Can someone confirm that this is also happening on Oreo?
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I just did a test and it seems just like Oreo. Now I do have an Incipio case on but, the recording is what I would call acceptable with the TV playing in the background. I wouldn't say it's great noise cancellation though.
I lodged a support ticket with Essential and they have acknowledged the issue.
Thank you for reporting the issue you are experiencing. We are aware that other customers are experiencing the same issue and our technical team is currently working on a fix to be included in an upcoming release. If you run into any additional issues or have any follow-up questions, please let me know. Have a great day.
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I'm curious about this. Is the noise cancellation mic recording by design or as an error? If it's by design their response is kind of weird, no? And if it's by design... Why? I've often thought the mic was terrible for recording audio and I guess this explains it. I wonder if there's any way to do it better just with certain apps in the mean time? Like just with a voice recorder app it would be great to use the main mic.
I use easy voice recorder (pro) for recording interviews for academic research, and all are clear and very usable, even in more taxing/noisy conditions. I pre-tested using both mics, and found that using the main was slightly clearer than the rear in noisy situations. However, the rear mic works very well in quieter situations, especially while flat on a table (despite expectations that this would muffle the input).
In short, I'm not sure that the noise cancelling is anything more than adequate. But, I am sure that the quality of the recording app is crucial. Perhaps that might be worth considering?
Have you solved this problem?
also uses rear mic for dictation apps -- how lame
StNickZA said:
If you have ever used your PH-1 to record your voice (eg. Telegram or WhatsApp voice note) in a noisy environment, you would have probably realised that it is practically unusable. It would appear that the reason for this is that PH-1 uses the rear-facing noise-cancelling microphone for voice recording rather than the microphone at the bottom. You can test this yourself by using a voice recording app from the Play Store and tapping on each microphone. Comparatively, my wife's OnePlus 3T uses the correct microphone and the difference is night and day.
I have only ever had Android P on my PH-1, so I cannot be sure that this isn't related purely to the latest builds or not. Can someone confirm that this is also happening on Oreo?
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I can confirm the same here and it ain't just voice recording but voice dictation as well. I noticed that my dictation (speech-to-text) accuracy when using my PH-1 is worse than when using the same apps on other devices. Then I realized the same as you, it's because the PH-1 is directing these apps to use the mic on the back of the phone by the camera instead of the one on the bottom where I'm speaking into. (smh) I also submitted a support request to Essential just now.

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