Ubuntu or Windows 7 - Vibrant General

Which one do your prefer & why?
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Mac OSX. Why? Because i have a Macbook Pro and it comes with Mac... ;D

Windows.
it runs OSX, and UBUNTU lololo

xriderx66 said:
Windows.
it runs OSX, and UBUNTU lololo
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What are you talking about?

OS X. Why? Because even if it wasn't "ment" to run on my pc, it still does. Plus windows just sucks.
All nonsense and misspelled words courtesy of my unsupported samsung device.

I believe he ment he had a non apple pc and he probably hackintoshed it.
All nonsense and misspelled words courtesy of my unsupported samsung device.

why not both, i used to run win 7 and kubuntu (ubuntu with kde) for a while, ive since reverted back to win 7 after i effed up the linux partition. If you are a gamer like me you must have win7, other wise if you just want something simple ubuntu.

I have a laptop running the latest unbuntu because windows became so corrupted that it wouldn't install and the cd drive does not work. I know i can dual boot unbuntu with windows installed can I do the same if unbuntu is the primary OS? If so how? I would be installing from usb.

I love Arch Linux, but Ubuntu between your choices.
It's smooth, customizable, fast, and I love linux

Both suck. I used to use Ubuntu before 11.04 came along and introduced that blasted Unity shell. Now I'm using Fedora 15 and I love it. I still have Windows 7 on dual boot, but I rarely ever use it unless I have to.

audifanatic518 said:
Both suck. I used to use Ubuntu before 11.04 came along and introduced that blasted Unity shell. Now I'm using Fedora 15 and I love it. I still have Windows 7 on dual boot, but I rarely ever use it unless I have to.
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You can use gnome as default, just log out and pick gnome as your session. Unity isn't required.

r6kid said:
OS X. Why? Because even if it wasn't "ment" to run on my pc, it still does. Plus windows just sucks.
All nonsense and misspelled words courtesy of my unsupported samsung device.
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That would be spelled "meant" it must be the phone....
I'll take a shot at personal taste though, I actually like both, I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 custom (my own set up of Windows 7) because if your into anything that involves development on anything you want the best with the most support. Ubuntu's community is unmatched and if your going to help others you need to be able to be flexible and know what your talking about when it comes time too.
If your going to be involved you need both no matter how you cut it, have the best of both and work with it as others will expect nothing less.

i dual boot win7 and ubuntu at home and use fedora and win7 at work.
i tend to prefer linux because i like the virtual desktops to minimize distractions, and writing code is much better in linux. but i need win7 for games, netflix, visual studio, etc. what i dislike about linux is the amount of maintenance it requires. every time i update the kernel on my home machine it kills my ati drivers and is generally a pita. sometimes when i go to work on something in linux i find myself spending half an hour or more on os maintenance. and unity is crap, gnome3 for ubuntu is crap, so i'm still booting to 'classic' in 11.04.

windows 7 is great i havent used ubuntu or linux in a while and i think im going to start to maybe today

Both.
Though I am forced to use Windows since my graphic tablet does not work that well on Ubuntu.
I hate windows, though.
And Macs are far too expensive just to do the same blasted crap as a normal PC... WITHOUT AS MANY GAMES.

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So... What Distro do you use...?

i know this is off topic as hell but i just want to get a consensus of what the people that use vogues use on there pc/laptops and im still trolling through the many linux distros finding the one that suites me the most using ubuntu(karmic-koala9.10) for the moment. so enough about me, What Distro do you use!?!?
Gentoo on my eeePC and Windows 7 on my main laptop.
I use Mandriva '09..pretty new-user friendly
Ubuntu 9.10 for me. Been running it since 8.04
Its going to be hard to beat Ubuntu simply because of the support that can be found for it. Being the most popular, it has the largest community and chances are any problem your having will have already been encountered.
That is not to say its the absolute best, but it sure is nice! If you like a little more eye candy, try Kubuntu or Mint
1. Arch Linux running openbox because it only gives you want you need to boot to a command line. The rest is up to you to add.
2. Ubuntu 9.10 with minimal xfce for android development because it's easy.
Switched a while ago from Ubuntu to Fedora...
Debian is what i use, fast all packages and user friendly
Ubuntu 9.04
ubuntu 9.10 on my backup pc.
Running 8.04 on my main PC still. A little old, but still a champ. In Linux, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
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In Linux, if it ain't broke don't fix it!
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yeah im still learning that...the hard way my jaunty 9.04 was running great then i upgraded to karmic. and my adb/ddms isnt working
Ultimate Edition 2.3 (Unbuntu)
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron). I followed that advice above. It just ain't broke!
Arch on my home server, its simplicity is beautiful as Zen mentioned
Ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop (I'm waiting to upgrade to 9.10 because newer kernels give me audio problems, and I need a stable OS for DJing with xwax)
I keep around an 8.04 LiveCD for fixing things, saved 30GB of data on a friend's laptop that Windows (and most other programs) couldn't see!
I use debian testing on my laptop, and in a couple of month, in my HTC device

[Q] Porting other OSs to the Galaxy Tab

I wondered if any techies thought it would be likely that Windows Phone 7, Windows Mobile 6.5, Samsung Bada, Nokia MeeGo or other mobile OS's would be ported to the Tab. I think Ubuntu Netbook Edition is certainly likely.
Oh, asking "why would you want to replace Android?!" is a different topic.
Thanks
I'm grown to like Android so much as to do things the other way around (try to fit android to any number of other devices), but I think the two most interesting (and perhaps obvious) choices would be MeeGo and ChromeOS.
Yeah, I would definitely be interested in ChromeOS or a netbook linux distro rather than another mobile OS. I bet that there will be plenty of people trying to get linux on it, because people always wanna run linux on everything
What would be PERFECT to my mind, would be being able to dual boot.
Android for when its a phone, and a micro-desktop OS for when I wanna work on it. Stick it on the keyboard dock and add a bluetooth mouse and that'd be sexy. Hell, as long as you saved any documents to SD card you'd still be able to pull them up in droid.
Now all we need is some seriously smart people to make it happen
I don't know why Bada is on that list as it is not really a smartphone os(it more akin to a higher end/smarter feature phone os), and I doubt it would translate well to the Galaxy Tab.
I kind of want to see it running the latest version of Windows CE or Embedded in a dual boot setup with Android. Or some version of Ubuntu(maybe in a newer Mint variant).
Windows Mobile 6.x would be the best alternate.
sentiere said:
Windows Mobile 6.x would be the best alternate.
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Is that just personal preference, or is there a specific feature you think would work well on the Tab ?
Windows 7 on Galaxy Tab
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS4UOK-pyRg
But this is only a remote desktop.you can do it now with remote RDP or LotMeIn Ignition
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I'd love to see WinMo 6.5 and some Linux Distro, but my pipedream would absolutely be Windows 98 - I know, lol98, but I would go absolutely crazy if I could run some Visual Novels on it without having to remote desktop.
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I'd love to see WinMo 6.5 and some Linux Distro, but my pipedream would absolutely be Windows 98 - I know, lol98, but I would go absolutely crazy if I could run some Visual Novels on it without having to remote desktop.
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It's seriously unlikely that we'll see a windows desktop OS on the tab. Its the problem with closed-source code. It'd take very significant patching to get it to run on the Tab, and then you couldn't legally distribute the full OS. You could make a patcher/installer, but it would require anyone who wanted to use it to use full version of windows as an installer.
In all honesty, I wouldn't get your hopes up over installing any (significant) programs that don't come with a desktop OS anyway. Sure, theres no problems with bundled stuff, so you can expect office, email, browser, IM, minesweeper etc. But running anything more complex will start to bring up problems, first due to the lack of available resources (1ghz and 512 of ram is rather anemic) and secondly because its tricky to get things to run on unfamiliar architectures.
In theory, you have the chance to do some really cool stuff (some retro command and conquer on the tab... Or Baldurs Gate) but I wouldn't hold out hope.
But you never know.
Those Linux guys are CRAZY smart. A little win95/DOS emulation later, and maybe you could do whatever you want. *shrug*.
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Wasn't there someone who installed win95 on a nexus one ? You had to install it via dosbox and even then you could only get to it via remote desktop, but it did run. So maybe I'm being too negative. However, don't expect it to be an easy ride lol. Then again, it all depends on how many of these Samsung actually sell.
If they do (somehow) manage to get up to 10mil of these in circulation then there will be a massive dev community to try and make cool stuff for them.
Yeah, that's why I called it a pipe dream - unfortunately most of the visual novels I'd love to play are windows 98+ even if 95 got up. Everything else I'd want to do could be covered by WinMo (coreplayer is love) and Android (Galaxy native divx decoding <3)
IIRC the Samsung Galaxy S series has sold 5 million worldwide last time we heard - since it's essentially the same thing sans resolution I would expect some serious development stuff going on within a few months... I hope.
If I must, I will shell out for remote desktop software, but I'd really rather not if there's other options. Music on top of other stuff doesn't stream well enough through 3G
Windows Mobile 6.5.X is what I voted though.
Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook remix looks good for touch screen.

Could we Windows 7 - I know heracy for most

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I like the design and spec of Adam but I would also need proper usability from it. By proper I mean word, excel, usb to Com cables in general Windows 7.
Would it be possible to install Windows 7 on the device and how hard would it be?
I have not see the device in action so does anyone know does it have PC style bios or more like bootloader on smartphones?
TheDeadCpu said:
That would be hard. Not impossible.
The thing is I doubt anyone will actually waste hundreds of hours to get a worse operating system running.
(I say it's worse because it's not tablet optimized)
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Not worse, just heavier because more usable as PC. For me Android is the worse one as yo have no proper apps that make it usable as PC.
As said if I could get ubuntu to run with office on it I would not think about windows 7 but I can not even do that.
Andoid main problem is the same as one on apple ipad it is a OS for phones.
Adam started out as a dual boot Linux/ Android tablet.
Have not heard anything re Linux boot for a while though.
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I seen on forum for ink that they have image for ubuntu but still no office on it.
Grr I always loved tablet idea TBH even when they were called slates.
Until late I had my HP TC1100 and was very happy but it is lucking now in performance for win7 and office 2010. Also it is so "used" now that paint is coming off.
Oh well will have to wait for a win7 dedicated tablet.
The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
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The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
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Well since they patented Windows 7 core to work with Arm in December one would hope that will be overcome. Apparently there will be al ighter version of Win7 for ARM based systems. Hmm we will see but fro now HP Slate 500 is the best bet.
Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
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Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
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Well if I wanted to use open office I wuld not ask for windows 7 would just go to ubuntu directly. Openoffice suck badly no matter what people say, if you do tons of docs, formatting and scripting in excel you need proper, real office.
Anything else I could deal with on linux just not lack of that.
I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
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I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
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Only time will tell for sure. Right now we can't figure that out as there is no ARM version available. Once they make one I'm sure that people will start trying.

Windows 7 emulator on transformer?

Ok I have no desire to run windows 7 mobile here, but I do need the desktop operating system. I really still need windows for various real estate apps that are only available for windows. So does anyone know of an emulator for windows that will run on any android device, honeycomb or gingerbread?
It'd be nice.. I need windows to run Ragnarok Online.
...but more to the point, to emulate something, you'd need something with massively stronger hardware, right?
Windows wont run on arm cpus and there arwnt ant android virtualization apps that i know of. Maybe once we get linux on here you could install virtualbox so you can run windows that way lol
Your best bet would be to set up remote desktop/vnc
Besides remote desktop and vnc, I think you would been better off with a Windows laptop.
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Besides remote desktop and vnc, I think you would been better off with a Windows laptop.
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Ugh, that was exactly what I was trying to avoid. I think windows laptops are so overpriced compared to android tablets.
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Besides remote desktop and vnc, I think you would been better off with a Windows laptop
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Correct, because even if we would have Virtualbox available, we wouldn't have enough RAM.
If a small Windows 7 machine is needed, I would recommend the Asus 1201L, which I bought for my sweetheart. It has HD Ready resolution and comes with Win7 Home instead of the horrible Starter Edition.
It came with 1 GB RAM and was horribly slow, but after upgrading to 3 GB even Photoshop CS3 runs fine ... I wouldn't install current 3D games though
EyeAndroid said:
I think windows laptops are so overpriced compared to android tablets.
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The above mentioned 1201L including RAM upgrade is cheaper than the Transformer and MUCH more powerfull
EyeAndroid said:
Ugh, that was exactly what I was trying to avoid. I think windows laptops are so overpriced compared to android tablets.
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Go for a netbook then:
ASUS Transformer 16GB ~$500AUD
ASUS Eee PC you can easily find ~$300AUD+
Plus, there are 14" or so laptops for under $500AUD. I'm sure it'd be similar in the States.
But at OP: If you really wanted to run Windows 7 apps, a honeycombe tablet isn't really a very good option... Your best bet, if you don't want to VNC, would be to install Ubuntu and run Windows apps under Wine on your TF (see the developement thread for instructions).
Until Windows 8 ARM comes out, there's not much of a possibility of running Windows 7 on your tablet (unless you get one of those horrid x86 tablets...).
Well what I meant was windows tablets over android tablets. I was looking at a butt ugly, resource hog, underpowered windows tablet today and it was like $999. Almost $1000! Windows has got to be kidding me! And the touch screen experience was a joke! It was all over the place, inaccurate, and slow!
I've definitely got to look into getting that unbuntu that runs windows apps. That's all I wanted to do! Could care less if its windows running it or not, just as long as it works!
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EyeAndroid said:
Well what I meant was windows tablets over android tablets.
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People interested in Windows tablets should wait until next year, when a tablet optimized Windows 8 is available.
Current tablet hardware is to weak for Win7 !!!
EyeAndroid said:
I've definitely got to look into getting that unbuntu that runs windows apps.
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Even if it's possible to boot the TF with Ubuntu, I doubt, that the Wine experience would be great with only 1GB RAM.
EyeAndroid said:
Well what I meant was windows tablets over android tablets. I was looking at a butt ugly, resource hog, underpowered windows tablet today and it was like $999. Almost $1000! Windows has got to be kidding me! And the touch screen experience was a joke! It was all over the place, inaccurate, and slow!
I've definitely got to look into getting that unbuntu that runs windows apps. That's all I wanted to do! Could care less if its windows running it or not, just as long as it works!
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Heheh... I know what you mean about the current Windows tablets
Anyway, yeah about Wine under Ubuntu: Wine isn't a perfect application. It doesn't enable you to run all Windows apps under Linux, but it does run quite a few usefull ones (Office is pretty much perfect in my past experience, along with quite a few games).
But yeah, as Aymara said, not too sure how the Wine experience would be on a tablet. Never really used it with this kind of hardware... very big newbie at ARM Linux, but you never know... it could run okay. Haven't tried yet.
Ok then. Well, I've never really tried a remote desktop app. Do they work well? Or are they glitchy and unusuable?
Which one would everyone recommend as a good option? Preferably something free and reliable, haha if those 2 can be in the same sentence here.
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There's already one bundled with your Transformer. On your PC, head on over to http://www.splashtop.com/remote/browser/download?from=product and install that product. Then on your Transformer, open the "My Cloud" app (I think that's the name), and there's a remote control tab there. If you're connected to the same wifi network as your computer, it should automatically find your computer and allow you to connect.
You could get the cheapest windows laptop that can run well, and then get bluestacks to run android apps on windows. It's kind of the reverse of what you're trying to do, but it'd kill two birds with one stone
http://www.bluestacks.com/
Why Wine? Ram aside it's for x86 only... and if it did emulate that architecture the speed would be horrible, it's not just cool to virtualize instead of emulating, there is an impressive performance difference.
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Microsoft announced Windows 8 tablet a week or so ago. You might want to see how that turns out. It's suppose to run all windows apps.
I think you're all still forgetting 1 major thing...all the windows apps are written for x86....what makes you think that even with Wine, you could run an x86 program? You'd be emulating the Windows environment with an ARM cpu, but you wouldn't be emulating the machine code for x86. You'd probably still need some kind of emulator to make that work. You'd still have to emulate x86 in some way shape or form. Honestly, I've looked into Windows, and there are some decent ports (look up QEMU, the russians managed to get a good thing working with Win95 there, but it doesn't work well on the Transformer) but it's really just not worth it. It's a gimmick and nothing more.
To the OP, if you really want a Windows tablet, check out the new MSI Wind 110W. Windows 7 tablet, 4gb of ram, 32 gb ssd, $599 (USD). It's probably the closest thing to what you will want.
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I think you're all still forgetting 1 major thing...all the windows apps are written for x86....what makes you think that even with Wine, you could run an x86 program? You'd be emulating the Windows environment with an ARM cpu, but you wouldn't be emulating the machine code for x86. You'd probably still need some kind of emulator to make that work. You'd still have to emulate x86 in some way shape or form. Honestly, I've looked into Windows, and there are some decent ports (look up QEMU, the russians managed to get a good thing working with Win95 there, but it doesn't work well on the Transformer) but it's really just not worth it. It's a gimmick and nothing more.
To the OP, if you really want a Windows tablet, check out the new MSI Wind 110W. Windows 7 tablet, 4gb of ram, 32 gb ssd, $599 (USD). It's probably the closest thing to what you will want.
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Take a read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmeta_Crusoe
EyeAndroid said:
Ok then. Well, I've never really tried a remote desktop app. Do they work well? Or are they glitchy and unusuable?
Which one would everyone recommend as a good option? Preferably something free and reliable, haha if those 2 can be in the same sentence here.
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I use androidVNC and Logmein with my TF connecting to workstations and servers at work quite well actually. Much better than my DroidX phone and HP 2140 netbook.
Logmein for Android is pricey but androidVNC is free if I recall correctly.

What about Ubuntu for Android

All the threads I read are for Ubuntu for phone, anyone interested about Ubuntu for android? I'll give a try to Ubuntu for phone, but I'm really happy with what android offers... but now I think Ubuntu for android is really cool... Is like to have best OS for the phone, and at the same time best OS at all times on the phone.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.
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There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.
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Great point and there's so much more to this if we think about it. Enterprise is evolving rather interestingly into mobility served by very centralized environments. BYOD is becoming a very prevalent argument in the professional workplace.
Until recently, management of that extremely mobile environment consisted of attempts at integrating BlackBerry, iOS, and Android into an arena where Microsoft is the 500 pound gorilla. From a business continuity stance, BlackBerry has been the safest and more secure (not capable) solution out there. Who knows how much longer RIM will be around. Microsoft just introduced that gorilla's corn-fed son named Windows 8.
Most businesses will put a W8 transition off for some time due to it's very "touchy" differences. The funny part being that they ask about integrating Android tablets or iPads as a 3 year plan. Once the hype settles, the realization of a full OS with REAL management possibilities on a mobile device will become rather ideal to CIO's and IT Admins looking to move to that step and beyond with the idea of BYOD as a viable/more secure option, now.
Enter Ubuntu. How many businesses are running iOS or Android in their data center? These are catered to the consumer segment where the perpetual "duking out" between Mac and Google has completely squashed BlackBerry to a point that 10th graders probably have no idea what a bunch of "old fogey" college juniors poke fun at while bragging about being a developer because they flashed CM10 via ROM Manager last week.
Ubuntu's focus should be on Windows! The ability to offer a rivaling suite edges both Google and Mac further away from the complete enterprise solution discussion and positions Canonical right next to Microsoft. . . without all the crazy licensing!!!
All in all, the final words in my mind are: Prime Opportunity
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I've seen sites report that its still being developed along side Ubuntu phone, probably an easy way to convert android users over.
Midnitte said:
I've seen sites report that its still being developed along side Ubuntu phone, probably an easy way to convert android users over.
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ugh. . . can't believe I missed the distinction between the two offerings. I was leaning more toward the "Ubuntu for phone" development.
Regardless, I think this is a great step and you're probably right, Midnitte. I'm just waiting for someone to get it running on my old HeroC!!!
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There is definitely some huge potential with this idea although it is not the first time we have seen this, Motorola attempted something similar but I always felt as though the phones were not ready yet and the desktop environment was not only slow but lacked any compatibility. If Ubuntu runs well on an android phone as a desktop I will gladly buy into it and probably use it to replace my laptop and maybe someday my desktop especially now that Steam is coming to Ubuntu. This is the next logical step in the computing world as our phones become increasingly more powerful and have begun to rival laptops, I just hope Ubuntu is able to execute it well.
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Clearly you haven't seen the video of the guy from canonical showing off Ubuntu for android using a 1ghz phone from a year or two ago. It was running perfectly as Ubuntu when docked, and when he undocked, BAM. Android again. I'll see if I can find the vid again
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EDIT: here is the link. Not exactly the one I was looking for, but it works. It is a Motorola atrix 2, which is fairly old, and probably the exact phone you said " wasn't ready"
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY&desktop_uri=/watch?v=wzc0uMXGFBY
Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
I did that before on my N9 with the mex distro. You just change the boot menu on the pc that you are going to hook up to so that it looks at the USB first for an OS before the hard disk. If I didn't want to run it I would wait until after the computer started to hook it up. The only thing is you have to remember to wait until after you start the computer if you don't want to run it and I kept habitually not waiting and accidentally starting the distro off of the phone and the other thing is you have to keep track of all the files and folders it installs on your phone so that if you decide to erase it you know what files and folders to erase and don't jack your phone up.
There is also Lili http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ which has "persistence" which means you can install/uninstall apps and add/delete data etc. and I see they have kubuntu on there and even meego 1.2.
aironeous said:
Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
I did that before on my N9 with the mex distro. You just change the boot menu on the pc that you are going to hook up to so that it looks at the USB first for an OS before the hard disk. If I didn't want to run it I would wait until after the computer started to hook it up. The only thing is you have to remember to wait until after you start the computer if you don't want to run it and I kept habitually not waiting and accidentally starting the distro off of the phone and the other thing is you have to keep track of all the files and folders it installs on your phone so that if you decide to erase it you know what files and folders to erase and don't jack your phone up.
There is also Lili http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ which has "persistence" which means you can install/uninstall apps and add/delete data etc. and I see they have kubuntu on there and even meego 1.2.
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Because phones don't allow booting from media (except for special cases like the nook color, et al).
aironeous said:
Why can't you use unetbootin http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to load a linux distro onto your phone.
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As long the bios on the target system recognizes the SD card through the usb attached phone in the boot menu..
reply 1^ Wait what? Are we on the same page here? Do you or don't you want to hook your phone up to a PC and make it boot up off of ubuntu that is on your phone? I was just doing that for about a month on my N9. Lili takes it even a step further and lets you install and uninstall apps and data that persist and also gives you virtualbox thrown in.
Reply 2^ What? That was too technical for me
Wait a second, are we talking about the same thing here? I'm talking about putting ubuntu on your phone and then you walk over to a PC and plug your phone in via usb and start the computer and it runs ubuntu from your phone. When you hook it up right after you turn the PC on pick mass storage mode when it pops up on your phone. Worked for me for a long time. I was walking around with mex 64 bit (ubuntu with 7 desktops to choose from) on my N9 and I would accidentally plug it into 32 bit computers at school (forgetting i had ubuntu 64 on my phone) before I turned them on and they would try to boot into mex 64 bit until i realized i was habitually plugging my phone into pc's before turning it on.
I don't understand what you guys are saying, I was just running around 2 months ago with 64bit ubuntu on my Nokia N9 plugging it into computers and making them boot up linux 64 bit from my N9 (provided the computer was a 64 bit and I went into the boot menu and changed it to look at the usb for an OS first).
You seem to not believe it for some reason. I'd make a video and put it up on youtube for you but I only have my N9 for video. I can't video my N9 with my N9.
I'm not that smart and I'm not that linux experienced at all but all you have to do is use unetbootin to install a linux distro (an iso image that you download, go ahead and pick any one you want) on to your phone in mass storage mode. Then just go into the boot menu of the PC you are targetting when you start it up and change the bootup priority to USB first.
Done.
I hear what you're saying; essentially Ubuntu on a stick... that's not what I thought Ubuntu for Android is/was supposed to be, though--from what I understood.
I had thought that Ubuntu for Android was supposed to be similar to the Ubuntu for phones experience, only with Android as the "desktop" experience on the handset. The phone is running Ubuntu 24/7, but when in the dock--think glorified KVM switch--you have full access to Ubuntu--using your phone as the source for the processing power, not just OS and file storage; unplug from the dock, and your handset reverts back to a "normal" Android handset...
...in your "on a stick" method, a PC is doing all the work, and the phone is just storage; the other way is equivocal to plugging a keyboard and monitor directly into the phone, and using it as the computer...
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That's not what I understood it to be. I thought it was just Lili since Lili has persistence plus a virtualbox so you can just load it without rebboting via a virtualbox.
Your phone is no different from a thumb drive in mass storage mode so you can load any linux distro on it and change the target pc boot priority to USB first.
I just checked the specs on the Raspberry Pi operating system. If that little computer can do all sorts of cool things with half the specs of a modern smart phone I'm sure the Ubuntu Devs will make the Ubuntu for Android wicked cool! Can't wait!
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Cl3Kener said:
I just checked the specs on the Raspberry Pi operating system. If that little computer can do all sorts of cool things with half the specs of a modern smart phone I'm sure the Ubuntu Devs will make the Ubuntu for Android wicked cool! Can't wait!
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It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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Good point! I didn't think about that being an issue but it makes sense.
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It's not particularly good for running GUI stuff though.
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As an RPI owner, I can honestly say it isn't much of a desktop. It's ideal for a home media server, but it needs MUCH more RAM. 512MB still isn't cutting it. Honestly, mine is collecting dust.
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If it's usb storage, and its recognised by the pc without drivers then yes you can boot ubuntu from it.
Ubuntu for android is about running android on your device, then plugging your device into a dock that has a screen / keyboard / mouse and using ubuntu. Android would still bye running in the background to receive calls and stuff.
Ubuntu for phones is a phone running ubuntu, you make calls and texts from within ubuntu.
Hope this helps clear it up, please correct me if I'm mistaken :]
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