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After the last news that they say that in May probably there should promise to be Android 2.2 (Froyo): what do you think that it will do SonyEricsson? Will it update 2.1 (eclair) or to 2.2 (Froyo)?
I think that if it updates Eclair(2.1) it will be an error because Froyo has many progress
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SE will not update to a system that is not available during the updateprocess...
who says it's unavailable? to you and me, maybe
Yes well.. It's still undergoing production and isn't done.
I bet that the update will be to 2.1: they have started the work on 1.6 and they have released the phone with 1.6 even if 2.1 was already available for months. SE will probably never update to 2.2.
i don't know...i wouldn't be so sure of it
even tho Froyo is "undergoing production" that doesn't mean that they can't be working together with google or whoever's developing it and test it on the way it's being done
if that weren't possible than that would mean that first we'd have to wait for Froyo to come out and then NO phone in general would have it for months until the phones are adjusted, that to me doesn't make sense
it's like saying windows 8 is awailable but none of you can install it on your system until we've adjusted it
if you get my point...
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SE will not update to a system that is not available during the updateprocess...
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That already, it is logical, but SE has said that it will update 2.1 in September, that's why he was asking about it because it is supposed that in September Froyo 2.2 will have already gone out
X10 will be a constantly the 'last version' phone. We're stuck with 1.6 when 2.1 is out in the wild, and we will be stuck with 2.1 when all other phones have 2.2.
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That already, it is logical, but SE has said that it will update 2.1 in September, that's why he was asking about it because it is supposed that in September Froyo 2.2 will have already gone out
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SE's comments regarding upgrades were all part of the below article: can you please tell me where in there Harold de Kort (Communications Manager at Sony Ericsson) states that the X10 will be upgraded specifically to Android 2.1, or where he mentions "September" as a release date?
Major update for Xperia X10 after Summer
In the final paragraph the writer even states specifically that SE hasn't stated which version of the Android SE will be going to with the X10:
Although Sony Ericssn has to make her own interface available for a higher version of Android, the interface will not chage a lot. Sony Ericsson herself does not make a statement on which version of Android the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 will receive in the second half of this year and therefore doesn't confirm that it will concern an Android 2.1 update.
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The info you are referencing comes from a post on Engadget from late last week which was unsubstantiated rumor from a "trusted" but un-named source who was wrong on in regards to his claim that 2.1 would bring multi-touch to the X10. I wouldn't put any stock in the rest of his claims.
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X10 will be a constantly the 'last version' phone. We're stuck with 1.6 when 2.1 is out in the wild, and we will be stuck with 2.1 when all other phones have 2.2.
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This is not necessarily a bad thing. This means that we will always have a stable and well known platform. If SE would apply the policy to always updated the phone to the second last version, it would be great. But my fear is that, as usual with SE, we will not get too many updates, maybe only one major update and then a minor bug fixing update. Then the phone will be "abandonware"... like the Xperia X1.
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This is not necessarily a bad thing. This means that we will always have a stable and well known platform. If SE would apply the policy to always updated the phone to the second last version, it would be great. But my fear is that, as usual with SE, we will not get too many updates, maybe only one major update and then a minor bug fixing update. Then the phone will be "abandonware"... like the Xperia X1.
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perhaps not so much a problem with the X10 - being Android based it will be easier for them to upgrade the base OS.. unless they have a complete change of direction with their own overlay... (which wouldn't surprise me!)
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perhaps not so much a problem with the X10 - being Android based it will be easier for them to upgrade the base OS.. unless they have a complete change of direction with their own overlay... (which wouldn't surprise me!)
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Come on, it was not so difficult to upgrade the X1 from Windows Mobile 6.1 to 6.5, and all the buyers would have been happy. This way, SE has just collected a lot of unhappy or angry customers. Moreover, this has been always the habit of SE: abandon the development of their phone after the release and leave the customers with bugs and issues. I really hope they've changed they strategy.
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Come on, it was not so difficult to upgrade the X1 from Windows Mobile 6.1 to 6.5, and all the buyers would have been happy. This way, SE has just collected a lot of unhappy or angry customers. Moreover, this has been always the habit of SE: abandon the development of their phone after the release and leave the customers with bugs and issues. I really hope they've changed they strategy.
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To my understanding, most WinMo 6.1 devices weren't upgraded to WinMo 6.5. My iPAQ 910c certainly wasn't.
I'm not confident that the x10 itself will receive an update at all. This is my 3rd Android device and my first SE device.
As a result of all the nonsense surrounding MT and colour support I've lost faith in SE already.
I think there xperia line will have upgraded OS's, but I don't know about the X10.
I've never had this much trouble with HTC devices (but I guess that has been down to this forum).
I'm not confident that the x10 itself will receive an update at all. This is my 3rd Android device and my first SE device.
As a result of all the nonsense surrounding MT and colour support I've lost faith in SE already.
I think there xperia line will have upgraded OS's, but I don't know about the X10.
I've never had this much trouble with HTC devices (but I guess that has been down to this forum).
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well htc too have been mischievous in releasing updates fr their fones.. hd was never upgraded to 6.5... there r no promises tht hd2 will get win 7.. atleast se has promised a 2.X update..
btw this is my first se device nd i am quite impresses... i used lots of htc devices and was hpy wid dem..
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To my understanding, most WinMo 6.1 devices weren't upgraded to WinMo 6.5. My iPAQ 910c certainly wasn't.
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You are right. However, it is not a good way to keep customers. And SE has already a constantly decrease in market share, and I think that the only way to reverse that trend is to build the reputation of a very high customer satisfaction. For smarphones, this means frequent and effective software updates.
Fair enough.
I just think that if they can take so long, to release their flagship handset in first place, and taking their supposed track record into account. Should we really expect 2.1 at least anytime soon?
After taking all those extra months to get the device ready for consumers, they release a device with a substandard input method, slow camera speed and poor in call volume.
Their famed customizations also have issues. Timescape is slow and on occasion I have to press keys several times for the system to register my input (mediascape).
We should be worrying about stability and and performance updates on 1.6 before we consider 2x.
This phone has so much potential but it still seems like a prototype to me.
yea it desperately needs an update. having said that, even though its running 1.6, it DOES have the latest kernel dosent it?
i'm hoping the fact that it comes with a 2 year warranty instead of the 1 year all other phones come with is an indication that we'll get reasonable updates past a year.
also- SE was the first to acknowledge the existance of 2.2, remember? when some guy mentioned the x10 will get 2.x
A Sony Ericsson rep confirmed to me that it will be a 2.x update in Sept.
She also said that their reasoning behind 1.6 was to ensure network compatibility so it could be sold across all networks, but I'm not sure if that makes much sense.
I am pretty sure that the gyus here at XDA will do something for us if SE will not give the right version in time. I had 6.5 on X1 for more than 9 months without any SE involement
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I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
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There is hope guys
That does sound promising. To be fair, they couldn't have missed the huge reaction from their customers. Well over2000 responses to the petition already and it's only been a couple of days. Looking brighter?
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Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised. Hopefully their best bods are focussing on seeing if 2.2 is a possibility....
No doubt their developers have X10 phones andthemselves would like their phones to be running 2.2...
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Hopefully that is the reason that the incremental upgrade which was due "a couple of weeks" from May 5th has not materialised.
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... dont worry about that, this update was part of development for X10mini (pro), so we should see it in the next weeks.
and yes, 2.1 and NO 2.2 (froyo) brings only bad vibes for SE (and their future)
Something tells me that although the response sounds promising SE won’t change from their original plan. The 2000+ votes (As good as this is) only accounts for a fraction of the x10 owners out there.
Leaving out Froyo until a completely new line of phones can be used as a sell tool and a reason to adopt any new android phones they release where as if the x10 get the 2.2 now the new line would have to have more hardware advances to prove their worth increasing cost. Judging the hardware cut backs SE made with its flagship device most people can predict or assume the next wave of SE android phones will follow suit.
The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference, If the Japanese got wind of the petition and signed up that would really open SE eyes and i'm sure the speed increase of 2.2 would be enough to get them on board. Any ideas how?
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
At the moment the link is also twittered strongly think that makes the difference.
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I posted the petition link on the Sony Ericsson UK and global Facebook sites and got the following reply from SE:
“Hi Mark, Thank you for your feedback regarding the Sony Ericsson X10’s Android upgrade.
We appreciate your feedback regarding this and have passed this on to the relevant department. We can confirm that this is something our developers are currently looking into and will provide further information once this is available.
Regards,
The Sony Ericsson Facebook Team
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No hope.
Just a standard message ...
Where did you see hope there?
Well, it is something that should have been done. Since this is the best SE phone in a long time, with a potential to get better.
So if they are choosing to apply this update... Then I would assume that I would be even more satisfied with my phone. But right now, is the thing that annoys me the most.. That I can't buy applications here in Norway yet.
And I can do it in Morocco, and that country isn't on the list either.
All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.
i work in a bar in malmö, sweden which the nearest city to where se have a rather huge campus there, anyway, i got a saw a japenese guy with an x10 and told him that we have the same phones, i told him that the x10 really needs froyo to be updated onto it and he told me that it will prob be on it sooner than you think.
he explained to me that they knew about people crying out for 2.1 and well get it sooner aswell!!
is there light at the end of the tunnel??
The petition needs to reach beyond the blogs to really make a difference said:
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"[/b]
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Here to reach them,but we still someone to translate in japanesse for us,ill try to find someone on my day off.
http://xperia-fan.jp/community
And here the official Japanesse twiter
http://xperia.twinavi.jp/
I've asked a mate of mine (who's a 5th dan Shotokan Karate!!) to see if he can do it, or ask one of his Japanese contacts to do it for us.. will let you know if I have any luck.
Great i just use google translator on the site.....my lol We really need a real Japanesse speaker
but it tell me they are in the same boat then us at least ,seems they getting 2.1 to eventually.
OSAnroid OS version 1.6 release with time. Worldwide, the latest version is 2.0 or 2.1 was announced and has been released.
Xperia is the OS version yet, it seems to be positively considered.
Since October 2010 presentation of the model in summer 2010 Android OS 2.1 to upgrade to announced that.
発売時の搭載OSAnroid OS バージョン1.6。世界的には、最新バージョンは2.0や2.1が発表されたり、発売されています。
XperiaのOSバージョンアップは未定ですが、前向きに検討されているようです。
2010年夏モデルの発表会で2010年10月以降にAndroid OS 2.1へバージョンアップをすることを発表しました。
visitador02 said:
All I can say that 2.2 finally provides bluetooth functionality for voice dial.
In places where it is illegal to hold a cellphone while driving, voice dialing using bluetooth is an extremely useful function. Android devices have been lacking this since 1.5 cupcake. Google finally added full bluetooth functionality on 2.2. I hope SE does the right thing and updates the X10 to reflect this.
It is very annoying when Apple updates the Iphone constantly and Android phones are stuck on whichever hardware manufacturer schedule to make its phone unique (e.g. sense, timescape, touchflow).
I think Google has the correct idea of separating future updates from the unique modifications that the manufacturers want. But for that to happen, all phones have to reach 2.2. first.
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They are still lacking the AVRCP profile update. It is still stuck on v1.0.. when the latest version is v1.4
Yep. I bought an MW600 as it was advertised that it's fully compatible with X10, but after three months of emails flying around, SE concluded that it's not fully compatible due to Android's limitation on AVRCP profile.
For MW600 to work fully with X10, we need AVRCP 1.3 or above!!
Maybe we can stress SE to roll out an update for security reason? These few days, Malware, backdoors and trojans in official market place became hot topic.
And quote from CNET :
At least 50,000 people had downloaded the apps in question, according to enthusiast site AndroidCentral. However, many of those potentially infected may have been protected by staying current with the latest Android updates. AndroidCentral notes that Google actually patched its source code to prevent this type of exploit for users running Android 2.2.2 or higher and that the vulnerability doesn't exist at all in Gingerbread, aka Android 2.3.
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Reports: Google yanks infected Android apps
Chances might be slim, but it worth a try?
Anyone know a way to contact SE regarding this issues(security/android version update)? Or would like to help get this message to them?
Posted on Xperia X10 Official community forum. Any other site, email to send the message to them?
could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk
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could work if we tell them that this can somehow damage their fw or idk
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The attack is an exploit, they have to patch it.
You need to do a full system wipe and reset your phone completely, the data wipe and reset from settings may not be enough. This means ODIN, RUU's, .sbf files or a trip to your carrier store if this is beyond your capabilities.
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But then what about product id/IMEI/IMSI and our privacy (some of us do have paypal, google account :gmail, contacts,checkout/bank apps).
In 2 or 3 weeks SE will realease a firmware update for 1.6 and it will fix some bugs of the phone, it will be much faster and the battery will not drain so fast....
Just wait and you will see...
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Any link ?
The question is WHERE will they release it ? I live in Indonesia and here wasnt a single update yet :-( so maybe it's for Nordic Firmware only again.
I have a cousin who is working in SE and he said to me today that thing. That's why i know that...
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yeah, i'm in the united states, will there be an update over here?
erm SE already said this 2-3 weeks ago lol, typical!!
They said this about 3 weeks ago:
"I would also like to emphasise that there will be an additional smaller software update, already in the next couple of weeks aiming to enhance the usability and performance of Xperia™ X10. "
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and now, 2 or 3 more weeks to go? huh
Same same... SE slow as hell - lots of talk, no action...
X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.
It will be update for 1.6 not upgrade to 2.1 . . .
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GSeeker said:
They said this about 3 weeks ago:
"I would also like to emphasise that there will be an additional smaller software update, already in the next couple of weeks aiming to enhance the usability and performance of Xperia™ X10. "
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and now, 2 or 3 more weeks to go? huh
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On May 5 put the new firmware would be available in two weeks, have now edited their blog to make next weeks. SonyEricsson always lie.
GSeeker said:
X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.
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im the same ive been a loyal customer for years, and this is the last time!! Ill give HTC a go as they seem to be really on the ball
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On May 5 put the new firmware would be available in two weeks, have now edited their blog to make next weeks. SonyEricsson always lie.
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No they haven't, it said the next 'couple of weeks' from May 5th originally, however that would have placed the update last week. But reading it from today 'next couple of weeks' is nearer the truth.
lol, that is what they said 3 weeks ago, we will be lucky if we even get 2.1 this year.
New Firmware has heading to China
R2BA016..
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I can understand the dissapointment, i am to waiting for the uppgrade but still, SE is only doing what everyone else does. Like microsoft, blizzard etc, they just want to make sure everything is working 100% before release. If that meens breaking deadline then so be it.. i want a noticeable upgrade/update rather then some fast coffybreak job!
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SE puts out a great phone that everyone knew had Android 1.6 on it, it then goes and says that it will update to Andorid 2.1 by the end of the year with the addition of HD video recording, and during the week that Froyo is released it states that it will update to later versions of Android after the 2.1 release. Yet people still decide to "hate" them and they claim to know that SE will never upgrade past 2.1 (despite SE's continued claims throughout the X10 development process that the phone will get updated during its useful life, and that this will be a break from the past). Despite all of this people "hate" them and will "never trust them again" etc. SE has not broken any promise to me regarding the X10 and all these prepubescent tantrums regarding Android 2.1 and 2.2 are just soooo annoying.
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X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.
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I agree with you. Back to HTC.
The only great thing about this phone is support from XDA developers.
Bialynia said:
SE puts out a great phone that everyone knew had Android 1.6 on it, it then goes and says that it will update to Andorid 2.1 by the end of the year with the addition of HD video recording, and during the week that Froyo is released it states that it will update to later versions of Android after the 2.1 release. Yet people still decide to "hate" them and they claim to know that SE will never upgrade past 2.1 (despite SE's continued claims throughout the X10 development process that the phone will get updated during its useful life, and that this will be a break from the past). Despite all of this people "hate" them and will "never trust them again" etc. SE has not broken any promise to me regarding the X10 and all these prepubescent tantrums regarding Android 2.1 and 2.2 are just soooo annoying.
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I support this fully...stop yapping about the phone not having 2.1..you allready knew this when you purchased your phone. It will come in due time. Im super happy with my phone regardless of the OS version!
Since all New handset of SE in 2011 will release with Android 2.3 or even 2.4(Honeycomb), What are you thinking about Next Android version on X10?
I say all that they will release Next update for X10 based on Android 2.3.
I think SE Never try working on Android 2.2.
Finally we will have Android 2.3 on our X10 officially!
hehehe i voted on what i believe
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Since all New handset of SE in 2011 will release with Android 2.3 or even 2.4(Honeycomb), What are you thinking about Next Android version on X10?
I say all that they will release Next update for X10 based on Android 2.3.
I think SE Never try working on Android 2.2.
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It has already been stated numerous times that the X10 will not have an official release based on another OS than 2.1 ... What is the point of such a poll?
really....they also announced about no multi touch too
and if you see the hardware,it is capable of all OS...there are many videos showing with 2.3
for multitouch there was an official announcement explaining they found a way to enable it and it will be added in a future release against what they previously announced
I am well aware of what the hardware is capable of and I am absolutely certain that devs here will make a 2.3 build for the X10.
The key word though is Sony Ericsson. They have never had a plan to bring the X10 to a higher android release than 2.1 as new handsets are due for release in the next month and they will run 2.3 to show the public they are to replace the current handsets. It would make no sense commercially for SE to update its old handsets when new ones are available
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It has already been stated numerous times that the X10 will not have an official release based on another OS than 2.1 ... What is the point of such a poll?
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Which source?. They dont reveal any plan they have for X10.
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for multitouch there was an official announcement explaining they found a way to enable it and it will be added in a future release against what they previously announced
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There was an official announcement that the X10 didn't have the hardware support for multitouch(counting from dualtouch)...but any capacitive screen can do that, then they suddently said that they found a way to make it work...everyone knows that the dualtouch being used in our x10s is the same that appears on nexus one and HTC desire so they didn't discover anything, they just didn't wanted to work on it when they said that, so they "LIED" when they said their first statement.
Talking about android OS support, i haven't read anything related to "which OS will be the last one" from SE. Remember that some said that there will not be any updates for the X10 in 2011 according to that famous document showing future updates and we know now that it is not true.
Anyway i'm not saying that we will have 2.2, 2.3 o 100.1, i'm just saying that people on SE change their minds a lot
thati right.
Ok firstly i think it will be 2.2
secondly SE have never said they wont update higher than 2.1, they just havent confirmed that they are yet. the roadmap didn't state any higher than 2.1 but the roadmap didn't state end of support.
now sonyericsson have stated that they will suport phone for two years after release and the x10 was Released 2010, March this means they dont stop with software support until march 2012. so it highly likely well get 2.2
I think that we will at least get 2.2 before end of life, although, I'm sure that it'll run honeycomb just fine. I'm hoping for at least 2.3.
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the roadmap didn't state any higher than 2.1 but the roadmap didn't state end of support.
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spot on there PiLoT. The roadmap was a 2010 roadmap, it showed nothing for 2011 or further because it was a 2010 ROADMAP! All people seem to remember was that it showed nothing higher than 2.1 by the end of 2010, and guess what...that is where we are at right now - bang on schedule!
i would think 2.3 if anything, and have voted as such
I hope we all get what we want...... Me I want 2.3 or some clever man from here to get a solid 2.2
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Actually, the X10 would run super well with 2.2 especially with the increase in performance of 2.2. I would certainly hope the X10 would get AT LEAST 2.2. Getting 2.3 would be even sweeter but at least 2.2.
It's capable of running froyo and it would be a waste of a good phone without it since it is proven that 2.2 increases performance by a lot. So hopefully, SE, you can fulfill that.
I personally believe that the X10 will never be updated beyond 2.1. Yes, we will get multitouch but why would they give their old phones the same software as all the new ones that will be announced in february? All they want to do is sell as many new phones (the most expensive one they make) as possible. So for now they will keep feeding us info on all the marvelous things the X10 will still get to boost the current X10 sales and from the moment the new models come out they will just dump the X10 because they have a new flagship with 2.3 installed out of the box.
I can be wrong but I'm afraid this is what is going to happen.
Hi,
I voted (wishfull thinking) 2.3...
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(...) It would make no sense commercially for SE to update its old handsets when new ones are available
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I think opposite regarding what it means to have commercial sense. If I believe that SE will support my investment for a period of 2 years, keeping the product up to date, I will be more willing and confident to buy again SE products. In a competitive market sticking passionate consumers to our brand is a key factor to prosper.
New products should get their share through new hw features explored by new sw apps rather than the supporting OS.
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My skeptic side says that we'll only see 2.2.
But with news of the X10 mini successor running snapdragon and 2.3, it looks as if they would be able to get 2.3 running on our current x10 without too much extra effort.
And like what everyone else has said here, nearly all of the prototypes have been running 2.3. It appears that they're skipping 2.2; why bother getting it to run when it may be simpler to port it from the next x10 mini to the current x10?
I'm quite sure that X10 will remain a 2.1 device.
We will get a couple of updates (the promised dual touch and UXP update), maybe even some bug fix (but not the in-call volume, that's NOT a bug you hearing-impaired pests!), but not a new OS version.
For the morons in the SE board of directors a OS upgrade for a year old device would be just a waste of money.
not trying to be pesimistic but i don't see any update further than 2.2
Hi all, probably a stupid remark here pardon for am just a junior, just couldn't help my self, rather than just hoping, any way we could probably push SE on a clash action against them to update this lovely phone. any body a lawyer here. just to explore tho possibility, cause they promised a support at least patches along the life of the handset, and there are bugs on 2.1 that is pathed on 2.2, and this is minor revision, and another in 2.3 also minor. later on 3.0 that is Major.........
well just an Idea........
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next firmware will be harder to root
SE can't expect anyone who has the X10's to go out and purchase another phone, 1 year after the run around they have put us through unless they offer a trade-up program for those of us who actually paid money for these phones.
SE believes that it is offering the most stable firmwares of it's competitors and that this caution on it's part to make certain the 'experience' is better for the customers. While bugs do get through or some things get overlooked, SE has historically fixed many bugs in their firmware in the past (save the P1). The call volume will never be fully corrected in the phone, and the inability to use the phone in loud environments is because there's no noise canceling hardware.
UXP going lite? Well, it's SE's defining application and they released the SDK for the vortex et al. Lite I'll believe when I see it. You can tell it not to update automatically in the background and the widget can be removed from the Home screen. This app and the rounded cases with the hardware buttons is the internal 'style' of the phone. And if Timescape worked better and integrated with Twitter better, it is sort of neat. It's surprising that a company that has a much java experience as SE didn't see the performance issues.
SE claims to have submitted many fixes to Android (90?) and had about half of them accepted. There's some video from one of the developers at developerworld (I think) that says this.
Before I got my x10 I was certain that when the x12 or whatever it's called is released, the x10 would be updated to the same firmware level, and that would be the last update for the current generation (unless there were serious bugs that did not require a newer version of Android to correct). Today, I could toss a coin since I think SE's choice to NOT put a full 512mb ROM in this phone was as much about not expecting it to be upgradable as saving a few cents per unit.
Whatever happens, this is what I 'think' will happen.
1. No improvement in the screen colors. It's such a easy way to get better performance, not increasing the screen colors.
2. Any new firmware they release will have the standard Android rooting hacks blocked. SE really doesn't want you screwing with the phone, and carriers don't want you taking their apps off, even if you don't use them. Google's comments on 'wishing the phones were more open' came right about the time the little update to 2.1 was released that now with the still uncracked bootloader, makes SE the 'most secure' phone. This could be a selling point with all carriers.
3. AT&T may not ever release another approved version of firmware. This phone is not important to them, they've been trying to give them away 2 for 1, yet they have yet to offer a discount or sale on Captivates which outsell X10's by many multiples. Even SonyStyle was offering the phone for free with a new contract as if they were Amazon or BestBuy.
It may be best to move to a generic version to that if SE continues to release fixes or updates, it's available to you without the carrier's approval.
Like the title says, the xperia arc is promised to get the Honeycomb
Update, smashing rumours that dual core processors nd other **** is required to run Honeycomb.
Here is the link for more reading.
http://gizbuy.com/2011/01/07/sonys-arc-to-get-honeycomb-update-but-xperia-x10-lineup-to-miss-froyo/
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At the VIP event they also confirmed that 2.4 will be available very soon after Google releases it!
After experiencing with X1 and X2 and then X10 and knowing SE's incomplete support of their products, I would like to assume that ARC will come with 2.3 and die on 2.3 and I hope I stay with this assumption without putting any pressure on myself that why my phone doesn't do this or that
This is what SE has been promising over and over for every generation of their phones and they fail to deliver, don't believe it then go back and read SE history. This is their repetitions in failure for every device they put together.
But this won't stop me from buying the ARC.
The new phones are different. Google brings the OS, Qualcomm does almost all drivers, and SE does Timescape, the launcher, and a few smaller apps. Most of the customizations are just some reskins, and Timescape has no real integration with the rest of Android, making it a lot easier to update without causing problems. Sony Ericsson said yesterday in Brussels that they plan to at least keep updating for 1 year after release.
The X10 was different. It was SE's first Android device, and Timescape and Mediascape were heavily integrated with critical parts of Android. They've learned from their mistakes with the X10, the new ones will do much better!
I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
We will be getting 2.4 (which still is Gingerbread but more optimized), after that 3.1 (Ice Cream) should follow, merging 2.4 and 3.0. As long as we get Ice Cream I'll be happy!
couple of points to the OP though.. That article was written in January.. and 3.0 is for tablets.. The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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2.4 will still be Gingerbread, and will mainly contain performance improvements for dualcores, but no major new features.
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I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
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tbf the most significant update has yet to come
GPU accelerated UI
Bring me that and I don't think I will need much more
http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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That article has no sources, and similar ones have been posted in january too. Sony Ericsson has already got 2.4 running on the Arc, people tried it, and it's not the Gingerbread-Honeycomb merge. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, and if the next release will not be Gingerbread2, we'll be seeing 3.1 next. There will be no more new codenames in the 2.x family.
Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,
Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,
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<AdY> said:
Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
I didn't know that they were outdated. When I checked it again , I realised the issue.
MJ_QaT said:
No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
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well, i'm glad that i'll be taking arc, can't wait till 9th april