From the source from Acer Thailand, Iconia A500 will be upgrade to OS version 3.1 from 23th June to first week of July through OTA (depend on your location).
the features which added in 3.1:
1. Supports full Microsoft Exchange Active Sync.
2. Support for connecting to a USB device for cutting: the Mouse and Keyboard wired and wireless / case to a USB Thumb Drive and was able to connect via USB Hub T / support JoyStick and GamePad / a Smartphone is. storage (Storage) for the Iconia Tab.
3. Media support more and WMA / WMV to improve the display of MPEG-4 Simple Profile.
4. Iconia Tab HDMI connection from the monitor to display HD 1080p.
5. Chrome Browser to update the display on the same computer (Desktop View) automatically and display the Quick Control for fast, easy access.
6. The adjustment, which improves the sensitivity of the touch screen Smartphone is fast / medium / slow.The system alerts when inserting or removing the Micro Sd Card and USB Thumb Drive / The Zoom Widget.
Osm. So excited.
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Great stuff! Thanks for the info! Let the wait continue...
It's bad. They didn't mention about unlock the bootloader~
Good info!
Yes, thank you so much for the infor.
GREAT!!!THX
Yay
Thanks for the update!
zeuslee said:
It's bad. They didn't mention about unlock the bootloader~
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When you consider how many people are banging on in here about 3.1 and how it's going to fix 1000's of bugs (Yah, Ok, I know, I'm exaggerating..), there's NOT really a hell of a lot in that list that's all worth screaming for joy about.
I probably won't even bother updating.
There's not a lot in there I want, maybe 1080 output on hdmi (was that "i" or "p"?? If it's 1080i, I definitely won't bother updating just for that..)
Oh, it was "p" (you can't see the original messages when you're entering your one, silly that).. I might update for that.
Fluffbutt said:
When you consider how many people are banging on in here about 3.1 and how it's going to fix 1000's of bugs (Yah, Ok, I know, I'm exaggerating..), there's NOT really a hell of a lot in that list that's all worth screaming for joy about.
I probably won't even bother updating.
There's not a lot in there I want, maybe 1080 output on hdmi (was that "i" or "p"?? If it's 1080i, I definitely won't bother updating just for that..)
Oh, it was "p" (you can't see the original messages when you're entering your one, silly that).. I might update for that.
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I personally definitely find the support for wider range of media files and 1080p support already more than worth the upgrade. Not that 720p is anything to scoff at either, but I got a 1080p TV here and my friends have those too, so obviously it's great to have if I wish to hook my tab up to TV.
Besides, people are saying the 3.1 makes the whole thing a lot smoother and faster, so ain't that already good enough of a reason to upgrade?
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Besides, people are saying the 3.1 makes the whole thing a lot smoother and faster, so ain't that already good enough of a reason to upgrade?
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The A500 really feels much smoother with HC 3.1
fast / medium / slow <----- Whats that mean?
the 3.1 will not unlock the bootloader...
why even think about it now?
- They have plan to unlock it, they speak about, and they are aware because HTC will do as well, so just have to wait...
everything comes right when you have the guts to wait for
Fluffbutt said:
When you consider how many people are banging on in here about 3.1 and how it's going to fix 1000's of bugs (Yah, Ok, I know, I'm exaggerating..), there's NOT really a hell of a lot in that list that's all worth screaming for joy about.
I probably won't even bother updating.
There's not a lot in there I want, maybe 1080 output on hdmi (was that "i" or "p"?? If it's 1080i, I definitely won't bother updating just for that..)
Oh, it was "p" (you can't see the original messages when you're entering your one, silly that).. I might update for that.
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your reasoning is confusing, that's all i'm saying. What would make you upgrade, not like we have a custom recovery to roll back to 3.0.1
The game pad and mouse and keyboard is enough for me to upgrade
sanaell said:
the 3.1 will not unlock the bootloader...
why even think about it now?
- They have plan to unlock it, they speak about, and they are aware because HTC will do as well, so just have to wait...
everything comes right when you have the guts to wait for
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I think they'll not saying it in official. Chance will be 50/50
Thanks for the update. Can't wait.
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Nice, 1080p is a must for some, no news about 1080p mp4 playback?, high profile 720p mp4 video playback is only software and it's choppy (powerpoint like, low fps) and mkv is non existent, I really want tegra to shine because it has the power to.
Also any info about recording at least decent 720p from rear camera, right now kinda sucks (too grainy).
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Nice, 1080p is a must for some, no news about 1080p mp4 playback?
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1080p mp4 seems to work nicely in 3.1
I tried that Bourne video that was used in a youtube review of the Iconia that played fine on the Xoom and barely at all on the Iconia. It works fine in 3.1
I'm going to be in RDP heaven with mouse support
Fluffbutt said:
When you consider how many people are banging on in here about 3.1 and how it's going to fix 1000's of bugs (Yah, Ok, I know, I'm exaggerating..), there's NOT really a hell of a lot in that list that's all worth screaming for joy about.
I probably won't even bother updating.
There's not a lot in there I want, maybe 1080 output on hdmi (was that "i" or "p"?? If it's 1080i, I definitely won't bother updating just for that..)
Oh, it was "p" (you can't see the original messages when you're entering your one, silly that).. I might update for that.
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I actually had the Xoom before trying out the Iconia. The transition between 3.0.1 to 3.1 was very nice. The system was more responsive, browser was faster and more stable, better support for high profile movies, and the re-sizable widgets made my screens so much more useful. The whole OS seemed more stable, no more random FCs.
So I personally am looking forward to the update.
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I actually had the Xoom before trying out the Iconia. The transition between 3.0.1 to 3.1 was very nice. The system was more responsive, browser was faster and more stable, better support for high profile movies, and the re-sizable widgets made my screens so much more useful. The whole OS seemed more stable, no more random FCs.
So I personally am looking forward to the update.
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Yup that's why I waiting for it so long. I hope Acer won't disappoint us.
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Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
nealwheels said:
Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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Never had a Galaxy tab and would not want one (at least the current 7" model). I need more screen real estate. I already have an Android phone to cover the smaller screens. I don't like panning and zooming everything.
i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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i love my xoom more and more everyday. I love the hardware accelleration in the browser but I don't like the lack of flash or. Lack of tablet optimized apps at the moment one thing to always remember is updates will always come sooner on a Google eperience device
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And we already know those are coming, just takes patience. Good point about the Google Experience. Hopefully we will see some updates in the coming weeks.
yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
android_geoff said:
yes I've seen alot of demos for new apps so I know there on there way. Its weird though if you go to the market and click apps for tablets there's only 16. Half of which are games but if you go to games for tablets section there are more
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One of my wish list items for market improvement.
I had the Tab and it was a neutered Android phone. Xoom is the way to go...give it some time.
ur serously saying that u liked Android 2.2 on a tab more then honeycomb?
I had a Gtab originally. I got rid of it because the service through TMobile was spotty and the screen was too small. I however love my xoom. Especially since I found a good converter program for all my movies. Once we get SD card support ill be golden
nealwheels said:
Returned my G-Tab today, and bought the Xoom. I think I am having 2nd thoughts though.
I love the G-tab's size, and GUI (go figure). But saw the Xoom at Best Buy, and it was too irresistable to pass up. However, the xoom's size reminds me too much of the Ipad, and I just can't seem to get use to the Honeycomb GUI yet.
I guess the Xoom may just take some warming up to.
Anyone else feel my pain?
Guess I am just looking for some support.
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As an owner of the Tab and the ipad.....I have realized that 10 inches is for home and vacation use. 7 inches is portable and can be taken anywhere. I have an Evo which I thought was huge before I got the Tab....now it seems tiny.
I might buy the wifi Xoom if it is priced right but I already know from experience with 10 inches that it will stay at home.
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I sold my Galaxy Tab yesterday, I'm so gald to get rid of it. It was incredibly slow even after overclocking and 2.2 was NOT meant for tablets.
2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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2.2 may not be meant for tabs, but at least it runs flash and all the apps work without being buggy.
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Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
Bauxite said:
Ran flash incredibly slowly, and the browser crashed all the time... sure.
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really? I haven't had any problems with Flash or Dolphin. I watch more videos on the Tab than on my iPad (of course...lol).
Haven't rooted the Tab either (but rooted my Evo almost immediately after getting it)....haven't felt a need. The speed is fine for me.
Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
khov07 said:
Though I enjoyed the greater screen real estate (versus my EVO), the Galaxy Tab really is (as someone else already mentioned) just a neutered Android phone. After using the Xoom for several days, and using apps designed for Honeycomb, the difference is remarkable (just try Pulse, YouTube, CNN, or any of the games optimized for 3.0).
I do miss flash in my browser a bit, but that will come soon. I definitely do NOT miss the capacitive buttons on the bottom (a requirement for pre-Honeycomb devices)...it was terribly annoying to be enjoying a video or reading a document and having to be careful with the way I held so as not to accidentally press one of those buttons.
Also, the location of the stereo speakers on the Xoom is so much more sensible than the speaker on the G-Tab, where, once again, if you weren't holding it 'just-so' the sound would be muted by the palm of your hand.
**I have yet to significantly miss the SD card or flash. I do wish we could permanently set the UA string on the stock browser though, and I'm looking forward to the Citrix Receiver being updated for Honeycomb**
For me, flash, UA string, and Citrix will make this device a real killer, and it's good to know they will all be coming very soon.
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I agree. It's definitely a neutered Android phone...but it stills does everything I need it to do for a portable device. I would probably feel different if it was my only tablet and I didn't already have an iPad for the past year that's had Pulse, the new CNN app, plus too many games that I have spent a fortune on!
Is Word with Friends optimized for the Xoom? A friend brought her husband's Xoom in for me to play with and we downloaded it and the letters were cut off. i thought it was under the tablet optimized section.
I am eyeing the wifi Xoom simply because I prefer Android to iOS but not having Netflix, Hulu, and my games might be too much to give up. Hopefully we'll see more advancement with the Android tablets.
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
Bye! You really didn't need to start a separate thread for this.
Come back when you're tired of iOS.
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Bauxite said:
Bye! You really didn't need to start a separate thread for this.
Come back when you're tired of iOS.
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Really? Would appreciate if non helpful replies be kept to themselve's as yours.
There will be no getting "tired" of iOS. I want a device that works.
When and if the Xoom will "Work" I will be back. Idc about what Operating System it carries. Android and iOS are both incredible.
jamaicansolja said:
Really? Would appreciate if non helpful replies be kept to themselve's as yours.
There will be no getting "tired" of iOS. I want a device that works.
When and if the Xoom will "Work" I will be back. Idc about what Operating System it carries. Android and iOS are both incredible.
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If all you want is high profile video, I hope you don't get a notifcation or 20 while watching all those videos. I hear iOS notifications are wonderful when you're trying to concentrate on one thing.
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If all you're concerned with is high profile video get an Archos 101, and you'll be fine
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If all you're concerned with is high profile video get an Archos 101, and you'll be fine
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Owned 2 Archos products in my day.. Very mediocre cheap products compared to the rest. iPad 2 is my best bet for now. Obviously alot will hate on my decision but it's clearly the best "Tablet" as of now. Hopefully I will be able to re-enter the HoneyComb seen shortly as I love the potential.
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If all you want is high profile video, I hope you don't get a notifcation or 20 while watching all those videos. I hear iOS notifications are wonderful when you're trying to concentrate on one thing.
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I like all mobile devices. I like android more-so than ios, but man - you are about as bad a fanboy of android as the fanboys for apple. That is not something you should be impressed by.
I'm pretty sure you can turn ios notifications off if you need to. BTW.
jamaicansolja said:
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
jamaicansolja said:
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
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My Xoom never had any "foreclosure's" [sic].
jamaicansolja said:
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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I wonder when all the apple fanboys will go back to whatever message board is most appropriate to talk about apple products....
I owned an iPad for 10 months. I got my Xoom on day 1. With all of the Xoom's temporary shortcomings, I'd pick it over the iPad any day. Personally I feel that the iPad 2 is a joke - definately not worth upgrading from iPad to iPad2. It's like when the iPhone 3g got upgraded to the 3gs. Laughable!
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
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+1 explanation please.
Also, you complain about "non helpful" replies yet you started a whole "non helpful" thread. Where's the logic in that?
I wish people would realise that XDA forums are NOT for complaints.
You know apple fanboy == attention whore. :]
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
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Because I love the community and I will no longer see you folks.
Strange, ...
Are you sure that iPad2 is capable of playing that H.264 High Profile?
Have you checked the official spec of iPad2?
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
Nothing mentioned high profile ...
jamaicansolja said:
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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I'm pretty sure he said multimedia man lol
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colbyb25 said:
Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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A) Very True. But, I should be able to easily fit 720P video and/or be able to get software that can decode for me correct? Having to convert manually will never be a solution in 2011 for me to play on a Tablet.
B) This is Theory.
I do want to multi-task I actually sold my iPad for the Xoom; because I have all Android phones*.
I love the screen full of iCons once customized. I think this is also opinion. I love BOTH Android and iOS. But "Honeycomb" just isn't ready for the public. And we don't know how long untill we get updated officially. I root my device's but don't like to really tweak to much. So, even if a XDA hack solution is available I and the common folk won't use it.
The Xoom is sexy and I F*(&*(& Miss it like HELL right now!!!
But, I remember how easy it was to just upload a dam 720P Starcraft2 video from YouTube downloader.
Quite funny as to why you actually went for Xoom in first place?
Just read 1 of the article & it actually sums up entire Tablet war....
1)Various so called websites{Engadget--funded by Steve Restriction Jobs & others} complaints are glitches, battery life, and slowdowns. Yes, glitches and slowdowns are there. Do they ruin/hinder the experience at all? Heck no. People fail to realize that Android Honeycomb is a much more sophisticated interface than iOS. When you take into account everything Android does over iOS (widgets, customization, live wallpapers, true multitasking, better web browsing etc.), of course battery life and performance will take small hits. But in the grand scheme of things, Android has improved tenfold from Android 1.0 and performs amazingly well for everything it does. iOS is an app driven interface, which isn’t a bad thing, but the user has no freedom to customize the device to make it their own. The experience gets boring for someone who has used iDevices for a few years now. If you took a tech blogger’s iPad and compared it to a random 80-year old grandmother’s iPad, they would nearly look identical. But if you took my Xoom and compared it to anyone else’s in the world, I guarantee they would look completely different.
2)It isn’t fair to compare the performance of Android Honeycomb to iOS for previously stated reasons. I get a laugh when a tech journalist “compares” Android Honeycomb to iOS and says Honeycomb isn’t as fast and continues on to crown iOS/the iPad 2 like it’s perfect. Someone who reviews technology for a living should make it clear that Android has much more going on at any given time compared to iOS.
3)Another funny thing I see people say a lot is the Motorola Xoom/Android Honeycomb will never be as popular as the iPad 2/iOS. Uhh, okay? Why does it matter to YOU which one is more popular? Use both, see which one you like more, and go with it. Android Honeycomb will catch on and so will the Motorola Xoom. They aren’t aimed at the same audiences. Apple markets the iPad as this magical, cute, family friendly device while the Xoom is marketed as this totally bad ass, rugged machine that can turn into a spaceship if you try to grab it.
This guy has just summed up the entire Android 3.0 Honeycomb story.
iPad an oversized ipod Touch Tablet
I'm not a fanboy but can someone please explain to me why it's so difficult to play Video on this thing? Can someone also explain why the browser crashes? My device wasn't rooted but it would crash if it had to many tab's open and when I moved to quickly between them. Completely stock with only CNN tablet app installed.
What i'm saying is I paid 847$ for this. I expect it to just play the standard of HD Video. If it cannot handle this standard, you will have to decode the video specifically to this standard. Some as you see on the forums are still having this issue with certain solutions.
This iPad as a ex user didn't have these issues with video. So ofcourse the iPad2 will improve. BUT I feel the Xoom is better hardware so the problem is "how" long will the wait of fix be? I then see an Update that doesn't even list anything about Flash, SD Card Support, but a Time fix?
I was in Best Buy this weekend when i came across the Acer Iconia. It is a nice little device and it has a lot of potential. I decided to do a little research and come to these forums to get more information.
Here is what I know:
W/O rooting it will support FAT 32 HDD, has a lot of trouble with different video formats, can only playback 720. The camera as not the greatest. Acer provides the updates so you can expect little to no updates by their history (Asus is not much better as I had an Asus O!Play and the support was horrible).
Once rooted you can enable ntfs support.
My question is if it can shoot video in 1080p and it can only playback 720p what happens to the video you watch from your recording? is it getting downsampled? This seemed like an inconsistency to me. Also, is the video issues due to Honeycomb? I would have to think this is true because other users have had success on xoom or the asus eee transformer.
As i was researching i saw the Toshiba ANT. It is basically all the same specs except optimized more for media. Since it is not in stores yet I do not have a lot to compare.
Do other users have any thoughts on these two (Acer from use and TOshiba from reviews?).
Should I just wait until the Toshiba is available? Is Honeycomb going to get a little more mature with an update?
I currently have a rooted EVO and love it. I am adverse to the iPad due to the lack of expandable media and proprietary video chatting.
For my tablet I am looking for 1080 playback, 1080 HDMI out, support for a lot of profiles (but I am willing to handbrake if needed like i did for my evo). Ideally rooting (the Acer is super easy to root), use the apps on my evo on my tablet (I know i have to wait for the honeycomb versions), USB Support for ex journal or ntfs, DLNA support (Twonky is what i use), Video chatting that works (I haven't got a video chat app to work on the evo).
I know its a long list but for the money, I do not want to be disappointed at the lack of features or issues that a lot of these tabs are having.
Thanks for any help and suggestions.
Don't think you will be able to compare the two until the Toshiba comes out and people get their hands on it. I like the Acer, but the biggest problem I'm having right now is the SD card access; you can't see it in Windows, and so far I haven't figured out how to make my media programs store to it. As far as the 720p vs 1080p issue, from what I understand you have to have a screen bigger than 26" or so to be able to tell the difference, so I'm not worried about that one.
This tablet will be a lot better when they unlock the bootloader and the devs start working their magic on it.
Bboy486,
Just an opinion. I just bought an Acer. I studied what I could find
on the Xoom, Acer, ASUS Transformer, Toshiba and Samsung Galaxy
Tab 10.
The all have deficiencies and advantages.
-- Xoom costs too much IMO.
-- ASUS doesn't have USB on tablet and I need that.
-- Samsung also doesn't have (won't have?) good connections.
-- Toshiba has full-size SDCard (I think I remember) but price is suppose to be....
My point is not to provide details on the tablets, but to show that there is no such
thing as a perfect tablet.
IMHO, the Acer Iconia A500 provides the most features I need -- mini and full-size USB, HDMI type d out, microsSD card, very good screen, HC, etc. And the price is
good at $449 too.
I'm sure eventually there will be a better one come along. I'll just have to decide
then whether or not to buy it.
Meanwhile, I'm gonna have some fun!!!!
Rev
P. S. -- The Acer so far is not extremely mod-able. But if it is good for daily use I can
live with that and keep playing with my G-Tablets.
P. S. S. -- Someone was talking about only 720P. If I remember correctly, Acer says it will
have a patch out to up that to 1080p early summer!!??? I think I read that.......
Get Moboplayer in the market for your videos needs. it also has codec's to download so get those too. nuff said
Also the Toshiba looks twice as thick as the Acer. http://www.thetoshibatablet.com/
I would say wait for the Nexus Tablet which is suppose to be release this year. It would make sense to buy Googles development tablet.
We can see updates to Honeycomb directly from Google.
*We know from the past some carriers/manufactures are terrible when releasing OS updates.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383447,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03079TX1K0000585
SmittyRN said:
Don't think you will be able to compare the two until the Toshiba comes out and people get their hands on it. I like the Acer, but the biggest problem I'm having right now is the SD card access; you can't see it in Windows, and so far I haven't figured out how to make my media programs store to it. As far as the 720p vs 1080p issue, from what I understand you have to have a screen bigger than 26" or so to be able to tell the difference, so I'm not worried about that one.
This tablet will be a lot better when they unlock the bootloader and the devs start working their magic on it.
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@Smitty
That is the problem. We don't know when the Toshiba will hit stores or availability. I also do not know what Toshiba historically is known for with software updates. I know from experience the Acer > Asus but < HTC.
On your SD issue, is the card formatted Fat or Fat32? I know this is a Acer Iconia limitation.
When I was referring to 720 vs 1080 i meant the formats of my movies. So for example, if i had a 1080p movie, will the Iconia downsample the video to 720, or give me an error that it cannot play it? I read a bunch about the Iconia having a lot of issues with file formats. My Evo for example can play a 1080p movie with Rockplayer. Works well. Do not need to handbrake the file if I do not want to.
Bootloader - is that the same a the recovery and clockworkmod? I saw a post about an easy root method and a ntfs fix (this might also help you!)
butchconner said:
Bboy486,
Just an opinion. I just bought an Acer. I studied what I could find
on the Xoom, Acer, ASUS Transformer, Toshiba and Samsung Galaxy
Tab 10.
The all have deficiencies and advantages.
-- Xoom costs too much IMO.
-- ASUS doesn't have USB on tablet and I need that.
-- Samsung also doesn't have (won't have?) good connections.
-- Toshiba has full-size SDCard (I think I remember) but price is suppose to be....
My point is not to provide details on the tablets, but to show that there is no such
thing as a perfect tablet.
IMHO, the Acer Iconia A500 provides the most features I need -- mini and full-size USB, HDMI type d out, microsSD card, very good screen, HC, etc. And the price is
good at $449 too.
I'm sure eventually there will be a better one come along. I'll just have to decide
then whether or not to buy it.
Meanwhile, I'm gonna have some fun!!!!
Rev
P. S. -- The Acer so far is not extremely mod-able. But if it is good for daily use I can
live with that and keep playing with my G-Tablets.
P. S. S. -- Someone was talking about only 720P. If I remember correctly, Acer says it will
have a patch out to up that to 1080p early summer!!??? I think I read that.......
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"-- Toshiba has full-size SDCard (I think I remember) but price is suppose to be...."
--- Not sure if i follow your point here? The prices are 450, 500, and 550 or 600 for 8, 16, 32GB models. They were on amazon, bb, and newegg, but they can change I am sure.
"IMHO, the Acer Iconia A500 provides the most features I need -- mini and full-size USB, HDMI type d out, microsSD card, very good screen, HC, etc. And the price is good at $449 too."
--- I assume you haven't had issues with the FAT 32 limitation of HDD (all my drives are NTFS or ext Journaled. What if you want to play a BluRay RIP? I do agree the price is decent, that is why I am interested.
What do you mean not mod-able? You can root, and i am sure there are themes and launchers available ala OS 2.3.
Do you know where you read about the patch? I have a bad history with Asus and promises of 1080p support on devices. My Acer Revo Atom 230 was also suppose to do 1080, but realistically it can do 720p without a sweat. But Acer promised with FLash 10.1 and hardware acceleration is would work. It didnt though.
akademik09usa said:
I would say wait for the Nexus Tablet which is suppose to be release this year. It would make sense to buy Googles development tablet.
We can see updates to Honeycomb directly from Google.
*We know from the past some carriers/manufactures are terrible when releasing OS updates.
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@akademik09usa
I hear you. There is always going to be something coming out if one waits. I waited for four years for the iphone on verizon. Went to Sprint last summer after 9 years on Verizon and got an evo. I could have waited but I love me phone most of the time after getting comfortable with Android.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent. Your post got me thinking, which updates are you referring to? If the Acer for example is rooted and i take an OTA then it will unroot the phone. I was told do not accept OTA updates and wait for the rom.
Is there a difference. The beauty of Android is that the great devs on this forum with custom roms include updates to the OS.
At least that is my understanding. Am I off base?
Bboy486 said:
@Smitty
That is the problem. We don't know when the Toshiba will hit stores or availability. I also do not know what Toshiba historically is known for with software updates. I know from experience the Acer > Asus but < HTC.
On your SD issue, is the card formatted Fat or Fat32? I know this is a Acer Iconia limitation.
When I was referring to 720 vs 1080 i meant the formats of my movies. So for example, if i had a 1080p movie, will the Iconia downsample the video to 720, or give me an error that it cannot play it? I read a bunch about the Iconia having a lot of issues with file formats. My Evo for example can play a 1080p movie with Rockplayer. Works well. Do not need to handbrake the file if I do not want to.
Bootloader - is that the same a the recovery and clockworkmod? I saw a post about an easy root method and a ntfs fix (this might also help you!)
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My card is FAT32. I can see the card via Astrofile, I just have no option to save things to it via any apps. I'll live with it for now, hopefully some custom ROMs will be coming along soon.
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rog152 said:
Get Moboplayer in the market for your videos needs. it also has codec's to download so get those too. nuff said
Also the Toshiba looks twice as thick as the Acer.
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Not sure the thickness bothers me. I am planning on carrying a portable HDD with my media so the Weight is not too much of a concern. Otherwise I would just get an iPad2.
Isn't moboplayer the same thing as rock player?
Bboy486 said:
Not sure the thickness bothers me. I am planning on carrying a portable HDD with my media so the Weight is not too much of a concern. Otherwise I would just get an iPad2.
Isn't moboplayer the same thing as rock player?
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I've had better luck with Rockplayer than moboplayer
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
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you cant watch 720p videos. well you can hardware encode it but no sound, software encode is laggy.
thats about it. everything else is great. theres a GREAT deal around TigerDirect @ eBay right now
about ~$480 for 32GB + headphones ($90) + SD Card.. if you want it, then get it. deal ending soon
so when you say no sound...it doesn't play 720 videos that well overall?
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With 3.1 it plays tons of videos without issue. 720 specifically, I have not tried but I've seen plenty of videos showing that it can since 3.1 was released. I love my transformer and highly recommend it.
drs6222 said:
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
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Is it just me or are there already about 1,000,000 other versions of this exact post, comparing the Transformer to other tablets?
zephiK said:
you cant watch 720p videos. well you can hardware encode it but no sound, software encode is laggy.
thats about it. everything else is great. theres a GREAT deal around TigerDirect @ eBay right now
about ~$480 for 32GB + headphones ($90) + SD Card.. if you want it, then get it. deal ending soon
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3.1 plays High profile 720P without any issue at all.....
you need to look at the codec for the audio stream if you are not getting any sound.. for example, AC3 is not supported by hardware encode.
I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
so spend the extra 100 for the galaxy?
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drs6222 said:
so spend the extra 100 for the galaxy?
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All tablets use the same ROM of Stock Honeycomb. GT will include their TouchWiz in a future OTA. So... it won't be much different.
All of the tablets are pretty similar. I personally love it, go to a store or something and try it out.
thanks...I Obviously love Android so its going to come down to hardware
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moo99 said:
I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
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I've had mine for a month now, and haven't had any if the issues you are describing.
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I have the TF101 32gb, Flyer 32gb, iPad 64gb. After my first real week traveling with TF101, it had amazing battery with keyboard dock, great using Evernote for meetings, and loaded 12 movies on 64GB SD card for viewing 720 movies... great little device with a few ticks here and there but overall happy with it.
drs6222 said:
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
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1. I travel a lot - The TF is quite slim and lightweight, good battery life too, ideal.
2. Tinkering/development - I'd say it's the ideal tablet on that front too, a well supported dev section.
3. Watching movies - As good as any other Android tablet by the looks of it.
4. Surfing the web - Yep, it'll do that, with flash too.
It's a well priced tablet in comparison, has some QC issues but for the price ...
ya get the TF and dock it ownz, use it constantly and was a great vacation gadget
Battery life is king for travelers!
From what you describe I would have thought that the extra battery life granted by the dock is a major selling point for you. I particularly like the intelligent battery handling between the dock and tablet.
Hardware performance wise I don't think you'll find a huge range of difference between the honeycomb tablets - unless 3G is important to you.
I found the easiest way to choose was to head down to the local store and try them all out. Personally I find the TF really comfortable to handle - but that comes down to personal preference.
moo99 said:
I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
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Never has one of these problems.
Transformer seems to be the best option all around for honeycomb. Hardware wise they are all the same
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best case?
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Other than the laggy and pathetic stock browser, I have no complaints with this device. Like it
So which browser is the best one to DL?
And for some reason the dock doesn't sound too appealing to me....maybe once I have it I will change my mind. Is there any other tablets with memory card slot?
drs6222 said:
So which browser is the best one to DL?
And for some reason the dock doesn't sound too appealing to me....maybe once I have it I will change my mind. Is there any other tablets with memory card slot?
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I personally use Dolphin Browser. But I also love the stock browser included, very well sync'd with Google Chrome.
Hi, just bought the above but already disappointed with the price / performance ratio and think of returning it for a xoom as I can get double the disk space for £80 less money + I get a HDMI port.
I am finding it cannot proccess 1080p video on youtube which it is supposed to be able to do, it can do 720p but suprisingly using DICE it can do 720p high profile movies files (mkv) pretty well to, overlcocked to 1.6 (not getting hot) it can almost do 1080p high profile too.
I know the limitaions with Terga regards to video but I thought it was supposed to be able to 1080p youtube as this is main or base profile.
Any other advantages / disadvantages?
Are there any fully working 3.2 wfi UK ROMS?
Cheers.
what is the point to watch 1080 on 10.1 inches screen? I just don't understand. btw, xoom can't play 1080 YouTube videos either.
da.trute said:
Hi, just bought the above but already disappointed with the price / performance ratio and think of returning it for a xoom as I can get double the disk space for £80 less money + I get a HDMI port.
I am finding it cannot proccess 1080p video on youtube which it is supposed to be able to do, it can do 720p but suprisingly using DICE it can do 720p high profile movies files (mkv) pretty well to, overlcocked to 1.6 (not getting hot) it can almost do 1080p high profile too.
I know the limitaions with Terga regards to video but I thought it was supposed to be able to 1080p youtube as this is main or base profile.
Any other advantages / disadvantages?
Are there any fully working 3.2 wfi UK ROMS?
Cheers.
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Read this thread for info on watching 1080P on Xoom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17470643#post17470643
tritran18518 said:
what is the point to watch 1080 on 10.1 inches screen? I just don't understand. btw, xoom can't play 1080 YouTube videos either.
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There are two reasons I can think of from the top of my head.
1. No need to convert 1080p videos if that is what someone already has.
2. Someone may want to use Xoom to playback a video to a 1080p TV.
Techno79 said:
2. Someone may want to use Xoom to playback a video to a 1080p TV.
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The HDMI port hast only 720p output, so this makes no sense.
btw i am not able to play 1080p main profile without lags
Iceananas said:
The HDMI port hast only 720p output, so this makes no sense.
btw i am not able to play 1080p main profile without lags
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Ah ok, I didn't realise this aspect. I would want my tablet to be able to output 1080p via it's video out connectivity.
The other point still stands, some people have 1080p videos as part of their video collection. As there's many other devices that can support full 1080p video. It would be really annoying for those people to have to convert these videos and store two copies (one at 720p and another at the 1080p). It's far easier if their tablet could play 1080p so you can throw anything at it and it'll just play it.
This thread is interesting.. I was about to get the Galaxy Tab 10.1 because of the much better screen and lighter body weight..
Should I keep the Xoom instead??
For 1080p don't buy anything now, wait for kal-el.
Managed to brick my Xoom last night whilst installing an boot image (dont ask for details I may cry) so I am taking it back for a refund today as PCworld have kindly agreed to do so. ( I may have ommitted a few details of the fault with the device).
One definite advantage to the samsung is odin, no silly bollocks with adb and 20 step rooting and unlocking, piece of piss on the tab, although have you seen the root on the eepad transformer?, yeah you only need to do it once but what a faff.
I have decided my only problem with the Gtab is (I can live without the HDMI onboard and even USB) is space, with a couple of movies, two audio books and only 4 games I was already running out of space with no means to upgrade, this is a apple-esque fail and I have to say they deserve all the **** they are getting in the courts for apple copying, it just is an ipad 2 running android.
da.trute said:
Managed to brick my Xoom last night whilst installing an boot image (dont ask for details I may cry)
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Can you share details
BTW:I Have flashed 9 times factory image.
If you do rihtly rooting or installing custom recovery or even going back to stock is just 5 minute process.(Touch wood)
rohit3192 said:
Can you share details
BTW:I Have flashed 9 times factory image.
If you do rihtly rooting or installing custom recovery or even going back to stock is just 5 minute process.(Touch wood)
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You are going to have to trust me its deader than a Diana.
da.trute said:
One definite advantage to the samsung is odin, no silly bollocks with adb and 20 step rooting and unlocking
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Uh, "adb" (and "fastboot") is what Google (and everyone else) uses and works perfectly. Odin is some Windows-only hack, not sure how that's an "advantage" at all?
originally I was waiting for the Galaxy tab but the more I read on it, and seeing the price, I decided to go with the xoom for the following reasons in no particular order.
1. Xoom is pure android, I suppose this doesn't matter for all you flashers but it does to me.
2. Ports, and internal sd card slot, usb, hdmi. all of these are extra peripherals on the tab and I don't want to go searching for them when i need them, again might not be a problem for some but it is for me.
3 Price. for the same price as a 16gb tab you can get a 32 that includes all of the ports so more bang for my buck imo.
Advantages of the tab over the xoom..
1 weight, the tab weighs nothing the xoom can break your wrists off depending how you hold it. I've gotten used to manipulating my xoom now so it's no longer an issue but still an advantage the samsung has over xoom
2 screen res. samsung make beautiful screens, much more beautiful than the xoom. Not that the xoom is aweful it just looks like crap next to a galaxy, but then so does everything.
my opinion make of it what you will
Samsung screen is color rich but I think Motorola screen has natural colors.
Sometimes colors on Samsung feel artificial.
Captain Geezer said:
originally I was waiting for the Galaxy tab but the more I read on it, and seeing the price, I decided to go with the xoom for the following reasons in no particular order.
1. Xoom is pure android, I suppose this doesn't matter for all you flashers but it does to me.
2. Ports, and internal sd card slot, usb, hdmi. all of these are extra peripherals on the tab and I don't want to go searching for them when i need them, again might not be a problem for some but it is for me.
3 Price. for the same price as a 16gb tab you can get a 32 that includes all of the ports so more bang for my buck imo.
Advantages of the tab over the xoom..
1 weight, the tab weighs nothing the xoom can break your wrists off depending how you hold it. I've gotten used to manipulating my xoom now so it's no longer an issue but still an advantage the samsung has over xoom
2 screen res. samsung make beautiful screens, much more beautiful than the xoom. Not that the xoom is aweful it just looks like crap next to a galaxy, but then so does everything.
my opinion make of it what you will
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Cheers for the feedback. The 2 issues I have with the Xoom are weight and screen.
I think waiting for Kal-el is probably the best thing for me to do, although I am interested to see what the Gtab7.7 looks + speed wise when its released.
My Xoom isnt really that bad IMO, I've got the internal 32Gb + SD 32Gb storage, which certainly beats out the Gtab10.1 for sure.