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Nexus S Features 'fastboot oem unlock'

Title says it all,
Are the developers here moving to the new developer phone or no?
Can we please forget some of the setbacks for this device and realize what a gem we have? The amazing CPU doesn't miss a beat and I believe is more reliable then the hyped dual cores. (TOO MUCH HYPE !!) 16gb of ROM is plenty enough.
Pure Google is the way too go.

Ok...

16GB of ROM is nice... but are we able to EXT partition that and do the proper apps2sd instead of the stupid froyo based implementation of it the same as we could an SD card? Or does this not matter as it should be mounted automatically anyway? I'm not sure how all that works with built in memory.

lostinbeta said:
16GB of ROM is nice... but are we able to EXT partition that and do the proper apps2sd instead of the stupid froyo based implementation of it the same as we could an SD card? Or does this not matter as it should be mounted automatically anyway? I'm not sure how all that works with built in memory.
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Same here. Does this mean all storage is available for apps ?

This is very interesting.
If the developers go to the Nexus S, that is where I will going. That is.. if it gets as many ROMs the Nexus One has.

xManMythLegend said:
Same here. Does this mean all storage is available for apps ?
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I'm guessing that about 2GBS will be avaliable for apps. All I know is that it's enough and I REALLY can't wait much longer for this thing to come

I was wondering about that. Awesome. Still torn whether or not I want to retire my N1 yet....
Regarding apps2ext/sd. Why would that be needed if there is 1-2GB of app storage? The N1 has about 200mb. I still haven't filled that up.

El Daddy said:
I was wondering about that. Awesome. Still torn whether or not I want to retire my N1 yet....
Regarding apps2ext/sd. Why would that be needed if there is 1-2GB of app storage? The N1 has about 200mb. I still haven't filled that up.
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If it's 1-2GB storage then I personally won't need EXT, but as it stands if your app storage goes below a certain amount you start to get irritating alerts and your text messages and such stop going through... and if I don't use EXT I reach that point and it's rather annoying.

I hear ya.
Wouldn't it be nice If the user was allowed to partition the remaining internal storage at first boot?
Lets say the nexus s has 14GB left over after /system, radio, etc. It would be cool to decide how much of that space you wanted allocated to apps.
It may be a stupid or impossible idea. I don't know haha.

El Daddy said:
I hear ya.
Wouldn't it be nice If the user was allowed to partition the remaining internal storage at first boot?
Lets say the nexus s has 14GB left over after /system, radio, etc. It would be cool to decide how much of that space you wanted allocated to apps.
It may be a stupid or impossible idea. I don't know haha.
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That would be awesome lmfaoo..
I'm ready to retire anything for this.

Cyanogen?!?!
Any word yet on if he's going to make this *HIS* official device the way he did with the G1 and then the Nexus One? That'll be the biggest factor for me... Or does he only choose devices that end in 1/One?

So this is iphone stile no sd??
N1

fcisco13 said:
So this is iphone stile no sd??
N1
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Yes, sucks. And there is no dual processors. Get a mt4g instead

Quick84 said:
Any word yet on if he's going to make this *HIS* official device the way he did with the G1 and then the Nexus One? That'll be the biggest factor for me... Or does he only choose devices that end in 1/One?
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Look at the support the Evo is getting and its not HIS device. Cyanogen has plenty of love to go around
.... I hope

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I know several other phones get support, but nothing like the G1 did or the Nexus One does... That's all I'm saying...
As for the MT4G, I HATE the MyTouch overlay on everything. It's not a genius button, it's a goofball button... I still will miss the trackball of the N1 and the color customization that comes with it.

he he
I was thinking, this great community has discovered and successfully enabled the hidden FM radio function on Nexus One.
Could there be a hidden SD slot on Nexus S?

I don't think the FM Radio wasn't hidden iirc, It was never programmed into the kernel or the phone. I guess we did learn as a community that the N1 had the right hardware just no software support.

Quick84 said:
I know several other phones get support, but nothing like the G1 did or the Nexus One does... That's all I'm saying...
As for the MT4G, I HATE the MyTouch overlay on everything. It's not a genius button, it's a goofball button... I still will miss the trackball of the N1 and the color customization that comes with it.
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That's what custom roms are for. Look like ppl wit be losing more than trackball colors on the nexus s. I was gonna get it also, but after the specs, no thanks

for the memory issue, most likely the NS will follow the GS style of 2GB for apps and about 13GB as the "sd card"
As far as cyanogen goes, i sent him a couple messages on twitter asking his thoughts on the Nexus S and he ignored them. and he hasn't said anything about it on his own so IDK.
They have had MASSIVE issues getting CM to work on any of the samsung devices, but with this one being stock google and being the dev phone, it should be easier to get CM working.

Anyway I don't think Nexus S is enough to be a developer phone.
While most other Android phones have SD and trackball support, Nexus S has neither, how can it still be a developer phone? I thought developer phone should have everything that other phones have.
I think Nexus One is a wonderful developer phone, despite front-camera, there's nothing else that Nexus One is lack of.

This is interesting

https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.

Morkai Almandragon said:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47255?tstart=0
And if you are wondering, there is a comment made in another thread that eludes to the fact that an SD card was never promised.
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SD card support hinges on Google. Honeycomb doesn't support external storage yet. This is a Google issue, not a Motorola issue.

That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.

I'm sure that Toshiba would also be pretty upset if Google decides not to support external storage. They're including an SD card slot in their tablet as well. I'm not sure about all of the others, but there are two manufacturers counting on SD card support.

Morkai Almandragon said:
That is what I have heard...
And you don't think Google and Motorola have discussed this? Come on now, someone knows the answer. My concern is Honeycomb starts to support SD, then the Xoom does not (I do not care why), we are left with a lame duck holding our junk and crying about an 800$ loss.
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Well, then don't be concerned: there's absolutely no reason why Honeycomb would support SD and the Xoom wouldn't. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The Xoom is being treated as a google expeirance device which puts in the same league of updates as the G1, the Nexus 1, the OG Droid, and the Nexus S. It will get it so stop worrying. This is also the reason for the unlocked boot loader. Now as for when thats a whole other story but the more devices that ship with Honeycomb the better because that will put pressure on google to get the update out.

this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.

eatonjb said:
this might be odd, but what the heck makes it so hard to have SD support in the first place, you would think that this would be one the main functions of the software. I mean, its not like SD cards are new, and not like a million other devices that are running android (not 3.0 but older versions) have SD support. i mean, this confuses me in the first place.
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I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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bwcorvus said:
I think the problem isn't that honeycomb doesn't support sdcards so much a it doesn't support two. The internal memory is being seen as an sdcard.
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but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?

eatonjb said:
but with that being said, same thing tho, does my Captivate not have the same setup?
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I'm not sure about the Captivate, but on the Xoom the /data and /sdcard mount points both point to the same logical partition on the internal storage. In most phones, /data has its own partition on the internal storage, and /sdcard is mounted from your sd card slot.

well.. not to argue the point, witch is completely valid, I still do not understand why that was not something that could have been added at the get go.
it just seems simple, as it would require a driver, an just a point in the script to mount it.
Flash, I can see why the issue, new hardware and stuff.
anyways, cant wait to get some SD action, would love to toss some movies on this thing!. (err.. more movies)

the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.

It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right? Cause I'm getting the wifi one and obviously I'm not sending it in for 4g.
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familiarstranger said:
It's a software (honeycomb) thing. It will be enabled with an update. which im sure will be OTA or at least available on XDA
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I have read this time and time again. But where are you getting your info? Who told you it would be updated?

patass said:
the comments on the sd card slot being activated with the 4g is all bs right?
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Yeah, I'm almost 100% sure they pulled that out of their ass, and was confusing the LTE SIM card slot (which is usuaily ultimately attached to a serial port, no special hardware required) with the SD Card slot.

They were probably just hoping it would all get worked out around the same time as the 4G updates.
This is on the Wifi Model listing:
Memory expansion via microSD card slot with support for optional cards up to 32 GB (functionality requires future software upgrade)

Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why

smilepak said:
Well, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't have SD card. Might be reason why
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Do you really think Google created a brand new Android OS that should be around for years to come that will not support SD cards? And on top of that, do you think Motorola working with Google would put an SD slot in the xoom and never activate it?
Really, come on...

Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.

Is source available?
c0t0d0s2 said:
Source is available, if for some dumb reason Google doesn't want to support an SD card, motorola can do it themselves.
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living without a SD?

yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4

The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)

I personally would not be able to live with SD cards in my life. I will have to end myself soon because Dropbox and Google Drive are taking over.

Oh well...

yumcax said:
The SD card doesn't make a difference, you just have to figure out if you can live with 8/16 GB of storage. The answer is probably yes, if you are willing to use streaming services (google music, netflix, etc.)
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i have 32 GB now so and i have 9GB free. but google music is not available in my country (yet). does it stream your music or is it like itunes?

more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?

Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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mohnim said:
Will u be able to transfer stuff from phone to a computer, even if u don't have a SD card
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of course you can, just plug the phone into your computer and it gets recognized as a mass storage device...

I think 16GB will be more than sufficient for me. If it isn't than I will just get a USB OTG cable and use the current Micro SD card that I have. I have an adapter that I can plug the SD card into that allows it to be plugged into a USB port. So effectively giving myself access to expandable SD storage
Probably won't need it, but that's my plan.

DonDizzurp said:
more threads of sdcard complaints... will it ever end?
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eh man i am not complaining

Came from a G2 (with microSD card slot) to a Gnex, I have to say I didn't miss the card even a bit. 16GB is fine since I use Google music for streaming, and that's the majority part of storage. I don't use GNex's camera that much. I have a Canon D550 and there isn't a phone camera that could produce pictures even similar in quality.
You might want to mange your space a little, like deleting unwanted backups, not having a million Titanium backups, but it's manageable.

I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?

mazdarati2 said:
eh man i am not complaining
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what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo

DonDizzurp said:
what do you want to hear, then?
did you not see the other 25 threads on the same damn topic?
no, living without an SDcard is not doable, it is like burning in hell. dont do it or you will hang yourself within a week. okay? okay. now stfu and gtfo
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wtf man what is your problem. You cant stand it that im not as smart as you so you are going to flame on me? dude please, grow up

G405T said:
I must admit, although I would rather have a micro-SD slot, its really not a feature I'm over worried about in terms of storage. What concerns me is whether it increases the risk of flashing roms etc to the phone. I you brick you phone, is it not going to make it more difficult to unbrick it? Or can adb always push stuff to the phone one way or another?
Also, just to confirm, you personal data stored internally (in what I assume will be called the sdcard folder) is retained each time you wipe your phone, right?
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intern is not your SD

I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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mazdarati2 said:
yes im asking this. im on a HTC Desire Z now with a sd card and i wanted to know if its a big difference to live with or without a SDcard. is it do-able? i cant choose bitween the s3 and nexus 4
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Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!

mazdarati2 said:
intern is not your SD
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The reason I assumed 'sdcard' folder, is because the LG 4X HD, which has both sd and 16GB internal storage places all of your user files in the sdcard directory independent of whether you are using an sdcard. The actual sdcard files are stored in '/sdcard/external_sdcard' which I must admit I found slightly odd.

nschiwy said:
Hey mazdarati2,
I came from the Droid Incredible to the Galaxy Nexus and I can tell you that having a large internal memory rather than the SD card slot is really not a big deal. At first, I thought I would miss it also, but I really wanted the Nexus. The only downside comes if you have a tendency to work with experimental/unstable ROMs, which can corrupt the filesystem on the memory and you will have to reformat and push the factory image with fastboot. When you do this, the SD memory partition gets formatted as well, which is a bummer and if you ever had any problems like that on phones with a physical SD card, you wouldn't have that problem. For the average user that doesn't use more than 8-16GB of space, it will cause no problems, in fact, it will be better because it gets rid of system confusion when saving pictures/videos/other files and then finding them when you connect to your PC. I hope this helps and sways your decision towards getting a nexus 4. It's a great phone and if you're on pre-paid, it will save you a lot of money in the long run! Good Luck!
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i dont think im gonna try out new ROMS. maybe only Pimp My ROM, but thats it

SUer said:
I've got a GS3 with a 32gb SD Card (as well as the internal at 16gb) and now a 16gb Nexus 7. I have to be honest and say it does bug me. If you download nightlies and make a lot of Nandroids then your going to suffer to get used to it. There is no way I would recommend an 8gb. I travel a lot on flights and that is when I really miss the storage for music and films, but I do have the phone to fall back on. That said, there are plenty of iSheep out there that don't seem to struggle and Google Drive and Google Music are awesome services. Perhaps I'm the one that should be more tolerant.
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yes i need to know to use Google Drive and stream apps like that. never used it

What Samsung replied to me when I asked about why we can't move apps fron internal me

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Dear
Thank you for contacting Samsung Customer Support.
Please note that moving or installing apps to external storage is no longer available on any Android from version 4.0 and above, due to how the Android operating system reads storage on our devices. The Android OS now operates on a unified storage system from Ice Cream Sandwich onward, meaning it will read one data partition for storage, rather than two.
The reason why previous Android versions had the capability of moving apps to external storage was because the phones memory was split into two partitions, one for external storage and one for internal.
Now, with Android using a unified storage system, all applications will be stored completely on the internal memory of the phone. This allows for around 11GB of storage space on a 16GB device for apps. Google, the developer of Android, feels this is more than enough for users, as their operating system was designed for use on their own phones as well, which do not have any external storage at all.
Please also note that we do not advertise any of our devices as having the capability of running or installing apps directly onto the external memory card. You will have to install your apps to the internal memory, but anything else (music, videos, documents etc.) can be stored on your external memory card.
If there is anything else we can help with, please let us know.
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The reason I ask them is that all the apps developers I asked told me/pointed me to Samsung for a solution or reason why I cant move item.
If I am not wrong I will have to ask Google for a solution.
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What is the point of this? it is widely known that Google removed this since ICS. Deal with it, or root & hack your device. You can do a sd card swap, put a 64gb sd card in & use that as your main storage.. Or deal with it. It has been like this for 2 years. It is not like this just happened.

Chocu1a said:
What is the point of this? it is widely known that Google removed this since ICS. Deal with it, or root & hack your device. You can do a sd card swap, put a 64gb sd card in & use that as your main storage.. Or deal with it. It has been like this for 2 years. It is not like this just happened.
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Likewise we all know this already .
Yes its a Google policy and i doubt if they will want to change it .
jje

Will not everyone did .
If you don't like wat sum 1 puts up then simple don't read it n move on.
This is a place to inform the ones that dont its not just a place for the ones that think there know it all.
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Chocu1a said:
What is the point of this? it is widely known that Google removed this since ICS. Deal with it, or root & hack your device. You can do a sd card swap, put a 64gb sd card in & use that as your main storage.. Or deal with it. It has been like this for 2 years. It is not like this just happened.
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Why are you so aggressive to him?
Please be more friendly with new members.
The forum is here to help those that do not know and not to humiliate them for not knowing!
He is right! Movetosd apps blame Samsung instead of Google, so it is normal he asked explanations from Samsung!

If you are stock then yes complain to samsung but realize how ignorant you are for doing so. That is like complaining that your prius doesnt have 4 wheel drive with locking differentials. Or go root and who cares if someone tells u to pound sand?
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299792458 said:
If you are stock then yes complain to samsung but realize how ignorant you are for doing so. That is like complaining that your prius doesnt have 4 wheel drive with locking differentials. Or go root and who cares if someone tells u to pound sand?
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1)
One can not "realize to be ignorant". It is a contradiction in terms.
If you realize it, you are not ignorant. If you are ignorant, you do not realize it.
2)
Go to the main movetosd app on google play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.curvefish.apps.movetosd
Description of the app by the programmer:
Please note, not all devices support this feature, i.e. Samsung S3. Xoom DO NOT support moving apps to SD Card, because it is already share memory with system. And this feature disabled by manufacturer of your device.
The programmer is guilty of misleading people into thinking it is the manufacturer's fault and not Google's fault.
Dear user 299792458, based on what I wrote above, someone you know very well is the ignorant here.
Be careful who you call ignorant, or you humiliate yourself by proving to be ignorant and unfriendly yourself.
Rejoice! The Christian God has resurrected!
Happy festivities to all Christian friends! :angel:

hygradeb said:
Will not everyone did .
If you don't like wat sum 1 puts up then simple don't read it n move on.
Its not a question of liking .
The comment was made twice that this is well known fact for over two years .Note two years its old old old information .
If you had bothered to follow XDA rules you would have searched first and not bothered to clutter the forum up . This is supposed to be XDA Developers forum not some skoolkids forum .
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Thread closed.
Let's calm down and avoid unnecessary comments:angel:.

[Q] Move to SD Card

I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...

rosse912003 said:
I have just moved from the Galaxy S2 across to the brand new S4, and so far it seems great. A really beautiful phone and generally pretty happy.
BUT.....
When I was using the S2, it was a snap to move apps and files across from the phone storage to the SD Card storage. Well, I am stumped as to how to do this with the S4!!!?? It doesn't seem rational to me to have a phone that will allow you to expand the storage with an SD Card, but then not allow you to actually move anything across. That's like Woolworths giving you a shopping trolley and then not allow you to put anything in the trolley?? That is nuts.. So it must be me...
Could anyone out there please give me a heads up on how to move apps across to the SD Card? I only have 16 gig in phone storage and that is getting eaten up real quick with apps and bloatware, so I really need to be able to use the 32 gig SD card I have installed.
Thanks in advance...
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The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.

Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!

Mithrandir007 said:
The option was removed since Jelly Bean unfortunately.
That's exactly the reason why I don't understand their choice of releasing a 16GB version (of which only 9GB remain usable).
I bought the 32GB S3 for this reason, and I'm waiting for the 32GB version of the S4 as well, if they ever decide to release it.
If you root your device, there are still options like DirectoryBind, but they aren't perfect, and I think we shouldn't have to mess with stuff like that on a flagship device.
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Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??

Sammath said:
Directorybind is broken at the moment. The app foldermount however is very close to fixing this issue.
The developer is working very hard on getting it fixen and is almost there (he's using my phone for debugging)
It seems that samsung has fuzzled it up themself. Not Google.
If you are rooted there still ain't no way to move files to the external sdcard. But it won't be long till that's fixen and that's the good news!
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Great news!! Hopefully these trail blazers will have good luck in their coding.

rosse912003 said:
Thanks for that info. I didn't think it was a Jelly Bean issue because the S2 received the JB upgrade and it was still able to transfer to the ext SD card. But obviously it is different for the recent phones. But I don't get it?? Why make a phone that can expand storage through an ext SD Card and then restrict the transfer of apps to that storage?? Is it me or is that a little crazy??
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No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.

Mithrandir007 said:
No problem.
I don't get it either.
The microSD slot is great, but advertising it as a replacement of the internal memory is wrong (so many people seem to think they can have a 80GB phone if they add the microSD to their 16GB phone, but don't know the limitations).
32GB should be the minimum internal memory for a 2013 flagship device.
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Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.

rosse912003 said:
Guess what?? I am one of those people!!! After knowing about the restrictions, I feel a little cheated and agree 100% with you that 32 gig is the entry level storage considering all the bloatware Sammy has included.
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Indeed, I can understand that you'd feel cheated
Hopefully they release the 32GB soon and maybe you can replace yours with the 32GB version.

I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...

The foldermount app should work now on the galaxy s4! Go to his xda topic where you can get the latest version! Yay

You also have to reinstall apps if you want to update them, since the app will not be scripted to support the bind when installing.

Mykew said:
I'm using Android Tuner Free to move big apps (eg games like Deadspace ) across to the SD card. Free app, go into App Mgr, select the app you want to move, click the manage button, choose the move button, select SD-Link. It's working fine for me so far...
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I don't get a move button when I try ... do I need to do something up front?
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that s great but is there a way to exchange the whole sdcard into the extsdcard ??? not just mounting specific folders