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Got the green light to get a hermes!

So, after discussing the options to repair my old blue angel (cracked digitizer ), the accountant (AKA The Wife(tm)) gave me the green light to get a hermes.
My question: Which one to get? I know of the first generation having the touchscreen problems and loose keyboards, but I can't seem to find anything that identifies the models that have these problems.
I see on ebay and various places the occasional Softbank. I am aware of the "dangers" of getting a softbank that is not unlockable/flashable, but with a price usually considerably lower than the other versions of the phone (HTC, Vodaphone, etc), they are tempting, but if they are already unlocked, I question the ability of the unit to accept different ROM's.
Anyone have any advice on what to look for/versions to avoid? Thanks!

Why don't you get the HTC TyTN II aka HTC Kaiser?

I would wait until the Kaiser is out and get that. It will be the latest and no need to upgrade for a while.

If you're sure you want to go with a Hermes (nothing wrong with that) instead of waiting on the Kaiser, take a look at this wiki page for problems with different models. At this point I don't think there are really any major problems on the newest models.
Also, when I shopped around for mine the 8525 was generally the cheapest available here in the states. If you go with an 8525, maybe look for an AT&T branded phone, as that should be one of the newest production models (won't get stuck with an old one with alignment issues).

Well, as much as I would love to get a Kaiser, the cost is high enough that it is not really an option. I'm seeing the Hermes going for around $400 to $500 used, with pre-orders for the Kaiser for almost $800. I may try to go that route still.
I've looked at the wiki, however, as is the case, sometimes people don't have the time to update it, so I thought I'd check with those who are currently using them now.
And the 8525... I've avoid that one. Something about AT&T/Cingular removing features from the phone and the fact that I'm seeing a more of those for sale over any other model kind of worries me.
I really like the look of the softbank, I'm just worried that if I get one unlocked, that it was done in a way that would prevent me from flashing a custom ROM on it.

Well, I recently bought a Softbank X01 for myself. The stock I got seems to have been made in July and so far it's performing nicely. The ebay seller said it was unlocked for use on the networks in my area (Rogers Canada) and sure enough it is. It also came flashed with a Dopod ROM of WM6 which was a bonus for me, as I 've never flashed ROMs onto things before.
The only problem was the keyboard layout didn't match what the software thought it was -- that is to say, I just had to tweak which keyboard version I had installed and then all symbols on hardware keyboard were in correct position.
If it helps, here's the seller I got it from. I did the local pickup, but they apparently have shipping too.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-SoftBank-X01...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

For the record, the only thing different about the 8525 is the lack of the front facing VGA 3G video camera. Since there is no 3G video call capabilities in the US, there's no need to have it. The 8525 is a HERM100 device. See here for an explanation.
The likely reason that they are available all over is the fact that AT&T subsidizes the cost of the phone. For instance, I can buy the phone through my business account for $300 with free activation, free shipping, etc. If I wasn't lazy, I'd pay the $300 and sell it on ebay. Also, the 8525 is the only one available from a carrier in the US. So if you're looking on ebay.com, that's just what you're going to see. Just like you'd probably see a lot of Dopods in south east Asia.
There's nothing wrong with the 8525. Other than the front camera, the only differences between the 8525 and any other Hermes is purely cosmetic. I've had mine for 6 months, and it's been rock solid.

Toleraen said:
For the record, the only thing different about the 8525 is the lack of the front facing VGA 3G video camera. Since there is no 3G video call capabilities in the US, there's no need to have it. The 8525 is a HERM100 device.
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Toleraen said:
There's nothing wrong with the 8525. Other than the front camera, the only differences between the 8525 and any other Hermes is purely cosmetic. I've had mine for 6 months, and it's been rock solid.
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Thank you, that's good to know. I do have to admit that the price difference is considerable enough that it is tempting.
I would just hate to get one then tomorrow T-Mo/AT&T/some new carrier named grasshopper announces that they are rolling it out in my area.
I'm sure the chances of that happening are about as much as a little man dressed in red starting a brisk trade in ice skates, but one never knows.
Is there any software that makes use of the front camera if one is not using it for video calls?
Oh, I can't seem to find an answer on this one either: Can the hermes make/take a voice call while the data (GPRS/EDGE/whatever) is active?

The 8925/"Tilt" is coming out on Monday. The price difference will likely only be $100 to $150. I'd probably go with the Tilt instead if it is within your budget.
It can take voice calls when the data is active. Most of us probably keep the data connections active all the time.

You can take a call while using data, but if you're on GPRS/EDGE the data will disconnect while you're on the call, but automatically reconnect. If you're in 3G coverage you can use both at the same time. I'm pretty sure that's true for any phone though. I don't believe T-Mobile in the US has rolled out any 3G coverage either.

OK, thanks for all the info. It's given me some things to consider and think about.

Great device but buyers remorse sort of...

After a full week with the Focus and an sd card no problems everything integrated and working to perfection. Speed is awesome and I love it, but I am having a little remorse. I have seen the specs on new phones coming out with the dual core tegras and front facing cameras am I wrong to doubt sigining a renewal with att for the focus? I am really on the edge because my TP2 was functioning fine and I was holding off for wp7 really but like I said I want my phone to have a fair amount of options front facing camera is probably coming soon, and I would like that for family and such, and really not missing the keyboard too much due to the awesome virtual keyboard (as good as the iphones). Anyone else feeling like this or have any suggestions or a roadmap of devices. I have until the 11 of december to return the device I have it armored up so it still looks new on return if the remorse grows. Thanks for your thoughts and ideas

I know how you feel, but, with this kind of mindset you would never buy any electronic equipment ever again because there is always something better just around the corner.
I love my focus - I am very impressed with the device, more so than I thought I would be.
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I know trust me
I work for a company that is a direct partner with intel so we get roadmap stuff like 3-6yrs down the road kind of hampers my building for myself until I am able to test. I guess that is what hurts me in PC world I get my hands on new stuff and get an idea, I miss my cellular job so much now. Just that like I said just a couple of options I would like (basically two cameras and maybe a keyboard), I was told by a rep that copy/paste should be released this week as well (don't know how true that is). Trust me I love my focus as well and so do my kids and netflix I think I have a resource I haven't used at Samsung and will see if anything new he knows of.

I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.

emjee87 said:
I have no buyer's remorse whatsoever with this phone. As you can see from my sig, I have owned many of the top phones (at their release) and I can say that I am the least wary of this purchase. As previously said, it's pretty futile to keep worrying about what's coming up next because even if you buy that, it will be outdated by the time you get it to your house. There's always something better coming.
As for a front facing camera, if it's a big selling point for you, then yeah, you may want to look into an iPhone 4 or the Nexus S when it drops(assuming you're stuck on AT&T and that the Nexus S comes to AT&T in some form). Personally, I feel like the Focus has surpassed many of my expectations and I can comfortably call it my phone/OS of choice now. I originally bought it on a whim on release just to see what WP7 was all about and I love the OS now, despite it's flaws which I expect to be fixed.
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With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...

scottazwork said:
With AT&T.. if you "want" to "cancel" service.. they will offer you options..an option..could be a new [email protected] new subscriber price...this is available every 8 months... this is a way to enjoy new hardware...which we all love...
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I've never gotten such an offer, even when I attempted to break contract about a year in just to see what I could settle with them. 3 people on my family plan have iPhone 4s and love them, plus my company gives us a pretty decent discount on our monthly rates (although it's still sky high with 6 data plans). Every time I've been tempted to just pay out the rest of my contract and go to Verizon, who has fantastic service in my area, something nags me back from doing it like the ability to use SIMs in other countries since there seems to be more worldphone options on AT&T or a new phone comes out that I want to play with (iPhone4, and now the Focus...)
In short, damn you AT&T

a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better

V DidDy 210 said:
a little bit of persuading and you can get ATT to give you what you want.
I got the focus for free. I was using the captivate before that and am now deciding which one I like better
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Ditto! except for the deciding part, I already figured that one out quick. I still had to pay a $35 restocking fee when I returned the Captivate, though. Despite telling them the GPS was completely f'd and I need it functioning for how I use the phone, which was advertised as having...GPS...

Dell's Internal Usage of the DVP

Back when Dell first officially announced the Venue Pro, they made a big deal about how they were going to use this phone internally, replacing all their employees' Blackberries. This was a very strong selling point for me. My recent experiences with other Dell products had been decidedly negative, and I was very wary giving any more money to this company for another crappy product that they refused to support. My wife's laptop developed hard drive & hibernation/sleep problems, and Dell support stonewalled the multitude of user complaints in a similar fashion as they are now doing with the DVP.
The DVP had a compelling form factor and screen, and I was intrigued. I figured if the company was committing to using it internally, then they would fix whatever problems arose. I wonder if Dell employees are having this same spate of issues, if they've had to serve as guinea pigs for firmware updates, and how many have requested their Blackberries back? Any anonymous lurkers here wishing to chime in?

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Back when Dell first officially announced the Venue Pro, they made a big deal about how they were going to use this phone internally, replacing all their employees' Blackberries. This was a very strong selling point for me. My recent experiences with other Dell products had been decidedly negative, and I was very wary giving any more money to this company for another crappy product that they refused to support. My wife's laptop developed hard drive & hibernation/sleep problems, and Dell support stonewalled the multitude of user complaints in a similar fashion as they are now doing with the DVP.
The DVP had a compelling form factor and screen, and I was intrigued. I figured if the company was committing to using it internally, then they would fix whatever problems arose. I wonder if Dell employees are having this same spate of issues, if they've had to serve as guinea pigs for firmware updates, and how many have requested their Blackberries back? Any anonymous lurkers here wishing to chime in?
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Good point, I had forgotten about the employee phone issue. MS made big news for doing a similar thing for their employees....I wonder how many regret that step.
I recall the sleep/hiberation issue. I also recall that it was not isolated to Dell. Toshiba and HP had the issue on their laptops..and I assume many others did too. I don't recall seeing conversations with those companies until a fix was in place. I'm not advocating the silence part of anything....but Dell is not alone in keeping its collective mouth shut.
Does Samsung talk openly about the hardware issues on the Focus and Omnia? Does HTC talk opening about the amazing piece of crap called the surround? How about the wonderful display screen on the HD7.....
I think the difference is in how fast they respond with a fix. Samsung got many of the hardware issues tweeked in no time. I understand HTC fixed some hardware hiccups also. But so far....nothing from Dell. That is my irritant....not the keeping quiet....in the time since the problems were reported, they have released a Open market phone for Europe and India, they have released a phone for AT&T. Both with new FW. The Open market phone had a FW of 210 and has the same problem. the AT&T phone has a ROM of 209 and so far I don't see any reports of the same problem.....210 was released before 209......

I have a 8gb AT&T DVP and the problems are still there. I experience crashes and freezes. I haven't bothered sending it in after learning it takes 3-6 weeks to process the phone once they get it back. I don't think I can go that long without a phone. So, I will most likely be switching out the SD card to a 32gb and saying **** you to the dell warranty since it sucks anyways.(Covers defective phones but they are all defective)

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I have a 8gb AT&T DVP and the problems are still there. I experience crashes and freezes. I haven't bothered sending it in after learning it takes 3-6 weeks to process the phone once they get it back. I don't think I can go that long without a phone. So, I will most likely be switching out the SD card to a 32gb and saying **** you to the dell warranty since it sucks anyways.(Covers defective phones but they are all defective)
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If you're willing to swap out a card....why not try a Hard reset first....if you haven't already done so. I know its not the fix all...but sometimes it works. The 8g version was not known to have problems...so if you are seeing them....it might be something else....
Do a hard reset and see how the phone works afterwards....

Aww gotta got my apps all over again but it would be worth it if I don't have these issues anymore
How do I hard reset? Is it just that option to reset the phone?
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To the original question, I seriously doubt anyone at dell and definitely no one at Microsoft is using the crap, no way these problems would have been left for so long if those employees could not use them.
They made a big fuss over the announcement but after that silence. You would think when they were actually deployed that would also be announced, methinks they used us as double beta testers (WP7 & DVP) and when the experiment failed spectacularly they shelved that project.

My brother works at Dell and he says the ARE using the DVP...I will have to ask him if anyone is complaining of issues.

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My brother works at Dell and he says the ARE using the DVP...I will have to ask him if anyone is complaining of issues.
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Well that sure as hell explains why jack-nothing is getting done with these lemons. If they are trying to do any work on these things, they aren't getting more than 5 seconds of good hard nose grinding in, before this crap crashes.

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To the original question, I seriously doubt anyone at dell and definitely no one at Microsoft is using the crap, no way these problems would have been left for so long if those employees could not use them.
They made a big fuss over the announcement but after that silence. You would think when they were actually deployed that would also be announced, methinks they used us as double beta testers (WP7 & DVP) and when the experiment failed spectacularly they shelved that project.
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I used to work at Microsoft and have a bunch of friends there, mostly in various field and sales positions. Just about everyone I have spoken to has a Windows Phone now, most of those are carrying the Focus. Nobody I know there has a DVP.

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I used to work at Microsoft and have a bunch of friends there, mostly in various field and sales positions. Just about everyone I have spoken to has a Windows Phone now, most of those are carrying the Focus. Nobody I know there has a DVP.
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I know several people at Microsoft with the Dell. But there are not many.

Ditto.. I have a few friends at Xbox. I think it has to do with 2 things..
1) T-mobile sucks in Seattle and Redmond (Lots of Dead zones.. even in Pikes Market area, thats my experience anyway) - This would seem to be why, as someone noted, there seem to be more Focuses (and I noticed a lot of Surrounds as well) at MS.
2) The sales approach, as the phone wasn't available at T-mo stores in the WA area. I mean really didn't Dell realize when Google with a big budget AND T-mobile behind them couldn't sell the Nexus One and closed its online store this was NOT the way to go. They even repeated Google by coming out later with an AT&T version again only available online. Why did Dell think a LESS aggressive but yet similar "online only" sales approach would work.
3) Issues with the DVP from the start..

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Ditto.. I have a few friends at Xbox. I think it has to do with 2 things..
1) T-mobile sucks in Seattle and Redmond (Lots of Dead zones.. even in Pikes Market area, thats my experience anyway) - This would seem to be why, as someone noted, there seem to be more Focuses (and I noticed a lot of Surrounds as well) at MS.
2) The sales approach, as the phone wasn't available at T-mo stores in the WA area. I mean really didn't Dell realize when Google with a big budget AND T-mobile behind them couldn't sell the Nexus One and closed its online store this was NOT the way to go. They even repeated Google by coming out later with an AT&T version again only available online. Why did Dell think a LESS aggressive but yet similar "online only" sales approach would work.
3) Issues with the DVP from the start..
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Actually I think it was more about timing. WP shipped Oct 21 in Europe and November 8 in the USA. The first 'fixed' sells arrived on December 21. By then most MS employees not on sprint or Verizon had purchased the focus or the hd7.

Thinking of selling the Droid Pro

on Ebay
I've never sold a phone on ebay before so I have a few questions.
1. I got this phone on a subsidized price and it seems like I can sell it for more. I have a different line on the family plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I were to transfer that upgrade to myself and get a new phone, Verizon shouldn't penalize me for deactivating and selling the phone, right?
2. When the phone sells, I suppose everything goes, including the SIM card?
3. What is a good popular replacement android that has the same or greater processing power and battery life comparable to using an extended battery on this phone. (Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that data is 30 bucks for either 3g or 4g phones, right?)

Sorry. but just one question.
Why ?
Why would you sell this phone, now that Gingerbread has just come out and its the only real option over a BlackBerry.
Anyways, I imported my Droid Pro and bought if off a private seller like you on Ebay. You will have the best chances to sell it if ...
1) Get the Unlock code of Verizon: Tell them you are travelling overseas for a long time and would like to use it with a foreign SIM. And make that a central point in your item description.
2) Make it available to foreign customers: Unlike as in the US, in Europe, people are crazy for this phone. Foreign customers may give you more headache, but for Europeans, a strong Euro means everything bought from the US is really cheap. That means you can get your premium return, while the buyer is still happy.
3) Take loads of pictures of the phone: Be honest with the customer, how long have u been using it, any scratches etc .
4) Be open to offers: The way I got my phone was get in touch with a seller who didn't have any other bids yet and was willing to do a buy-it-now.
I guess that should be the best way to get your phone sold, but really, think about it.. its an amazing phone and is getting a lot of love at the moment from Motorola and Verizon.

Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips

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Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips
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As a Droid Incredible owner trolling in this forum, I have attempted to make people talk a lil more about the phone. This is a very good phone aimed more for business minded people (there are regular users of it too). Those people that have it were only waiting for Gingerbread to arrive, which it has. Don't be so down on the phone.
I have tried contacting a couple of the original Fission Rom guys to see what can be done for you guys as far as this new update goes. May not be promising but keep your fingers crossed.

Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.

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Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.
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Battery life with the extended battery is pretty piss poor too. The gingerbread update did help a bit though...the gingerbread update did fix a bunch of bugs that killed the pro.
The lack of hardware buttons is a huge negative as well. As for the screen, imo you can't really tell until you set your phone next to a droid or something with much higher pixel density. Other than that, if you compare the screen with a blackberry, it's much bigger and more usable.

[July 21][Q] Is it really worth to buy HD2 now?

Hi everybody in this wonderfull forum.
To get straight to the point, I'm planning to get a new phone in the next month.
I've serched alot but found no smartphone has multi-boot abilities like HTC HD2. The HTC HD2 has 'quiet' good hardware in comparison to current smartphones on stores shelves. You all know that already.
The problem is, for an outdated device like that, is it worth buying it new? as i don't trust used smartphones anyway.
The way i see it like this:
Yes, very worthwhile because:
Large nice display;
Multible OS support, live in many worlds;
While WM6.5 is depricated, still very functional specially with HTC sense;
The price is affordable according to the fact that it is old somehow.
No, it's worthless because:
Display is sub-bar to currnet devices display regarding multitouch, 65K colors limitation, and overall quality against S.AMOLED Plus or Retina displays for example;
Multible OS support is great but won't go without issues. At least won't be as fluid as native OS on its own device;
Camera is not decent (no 720p video recording, at least as much as i'm aware of);
The price is affordable yes but i can add up a bit more and get newer phone that is better hardware wise and withought much issues.
I know this question might been asked many times. still i ask as it is time dependent and the answer change over time.
What do you guys recommend me to do?
Buy HTC HD2 and fulfill your needs to 'Have It All' and don't complain about any issues;
The time is over for an outdated device even with multiple OS's possibility, save your money son.
Thank you all in advance,
Ahmed.

Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
Hope this helps

Is say buy a re-conditioned hd2 save some money, android feels native to my hd2 its more native than most android devices because it has a bigger team working on it.
Is you want android and you want to save some ££££ get one if you want android and £££££ aren't an issue get the galaxy2
If you don't want android then I don't want to talk to you.... lol
Sent from my HTC HD2

Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.

Jammie_1989 said:
Personnally I would go for a newer device. Windows Phone 7 as it stands I don't think is worth having and all the apps are far to expensive. Android is the only thing I would use on this phone. Also after using MIUI (I'm going to say it) I have realised how much I like this Iphone style software, so I might wait around until the new Iphone is out. If not I will be upgrading to something like the new evo 3d.
Having said all that tho I might even hang on to my HD2 for a bit longer as it isn't slow doing anything I throw at it unless I add the new sense onto it.
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Thank you for your reply.
So to sum it up, you think no need to buy new. and iPhone looks better value in your eyes.

htccraze said:
this all comes down to how much you plan on spending for a new phone. also if you wouldn't mind a new to you phone (referb/used) i would check out ebay. you can get them sometimes rather cheap..well under $200. if your due for an upgrade anytime soon then i would get a new device. i will say though, i had the touch pro 2 and then went to a "true" android phone the mytouch 3g slide but i missed all you could do with the tp2 so i sold my mt3gs and bought a hd2 off ebay for $120. i couldn't be happier with this phone. if you wouldnt consider yourself a heavy cell phone user and take the hd2 to its limits i also would say it might be better for you to just buy a new phone. letstalk and wirefly always seem to have good deals on new phones plus if you hunt down promo codes you can save yourself a lot of money. it knocked off $80 on 1 purchase and got a free bluetooth on another.
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Seems nice point of view. Thank you

Not a problem. I even found radioshack at times have good sale prices on they're phones. I think all of these will even let you use your upgrade if your due for one. if you do plan even down the road i found it worth wild to try to find those promo codes. just go to your browser..yahoo/google whatever and type in wirefly promo codes or wirefly coupon codes. it will give you tons of sites but if you take a little time like i said it could save you a good amount of money. glad i could be of any help.

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Where are you? Amazon us are doing new T-Mobile versions (1024) new for $299
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Thank you,
Just to make it clear, i currently hold Blackberry Curve 8520 that i want to replace. The next phone would be my main phone for at least 2 years. I live in Egypt so no access to T-Mobile stuff i think.
If i to buy a phone, no way i could change soon. my budget now about 3000 L.E or 500 USD. Still, i know phone prices are higher in Egypt than USA so don't let that 500 USD think of high end devices as i wont be able to get them here with that price.

you could always look for a device that could be used world wide and buy it in the U.S offline from someplace like amazon/ebay etc and have it shipped to Egypt. Im really ignorant to what would be in Egypt and wouldn't as far as stores so im not sure what would and wouldn't work. sorry. i did almost buy the g2 from ebay in the UK because it was a lot cheaper there then here in the US and the seller told me it would work but i bought the hd2 instead so i dont know for sure. i can say the hd2 is a gsm phone so like tmobile or if its unlocked you can use at&t. im sure there are ways to get it on different gsm providers but im clueless of how to flash it over.

Yep that's a problem. I don't know what i buy abroad would work here or not. besides shipping has costs plus government share ... i think it'd be the same if i buy form local stores besides the guarantee that what i buy works.

I'm using a second hand one after smashing my old one, never had an issue you'll pick one up for £160 (15k)
Sent from my HTC HD2

Ask your questions in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623197
Or pm any of the users
Sent from my HTC HD2

Go for new device. Go for Samsung galaxy s2. But if htc hd2 satisfies ur needs then go for it, no need to go for new devices.

go get it!
i've got one just a month ago, after waiting for financial resources.
i think is the best phone ever!

I was wondering about this too and was told that some devs are working on the Desire HD. Might be something to look into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=765

the htc hd2 can run ROMs that are desire & desire hd base so thats always a plus but considering that the next phone will be your main phone for two years i really think buying a new phone is the best route for you. also if you ask whats a good phone in a specific model thread everyone will tell you they have the best phone so checking out reviews on sites like cnet.com & testfreaks.com are probably your best option as far as getting an idea on a good phone. i still would check the threads after you have an idea on a couple phones you like just to see what people can do with those phone's that aren't really listed in the specs.

Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I red them all and figured out this. i like to play with different OS's. This is what i do on PCs so, i guess if i'm bounded to a single OS (however its greatness), i'd miss having other mobiles with other OS's. The HTC HD2 seems a good deal to me. And its hardware is not that bad afterall.
Thank you again,

i buyed a broken hd2 for 90€ 1 month ago. all i can say it's that it's a wonderful smartphone, no other phone on the planet can run 5/6 OS, android feels like native, and developement is still real active. i didn't feel the need of a faster smartphone.
hardware is really good, photo aren't bad, we have 720p recording with wp7 and soon on android too, screen is ok, multitouch is perfect, it lacks video out, but how many time we need a tv-out? (i used tv-out on my ipod video 2/3 times in 3/4 years just to test it), it lack a frontal camera, but hey! i hate calling, i double hate video calling
so i didn't need anything else

Yep you are totaly right in my opinion. However, i saw many videos on youtube complaining about battery life even on the stock os. i know big screen = battery drain faster. but 6 or 8 hours aren't accepted at all as some videos shows. They also said stuff about lags and the need to restart the phone few times weekly and sometimes daily. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim? I'd appreciate it.