I seem to have made a wise choice - Nexus S General

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-3d-review/
Looks like a made a good decision and will be sticking with my Nexus S...

I hate endgadget reviews
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Lol that review feels like it doesn't come from a tech site. That is sad.
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weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?

p00kienrayray said:
weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?
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It looks like it is a cheap version of the other HTC phones with a gimmick screen. I was seriously tempted by it, but I am hearing other news that it is a decent phone that feels cheap compared to the predecessor...Dont get me wrong, i hate the plastic on the Nexus S, but, for a "flagship" phone, plastic optics sound crappy.

Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.

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Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.
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Oh really? they gave great reviews of the Galaxy S2 + Sensation
Don't be pissed because they're bashing on HTC.
We as Android users make fun of Apple fan boys. But all in honesty, there are some Android fanboys too who stick to HTC, Samsung, and so on. I'm a victim of this, I prefer Samsung devices.

Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.

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Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.
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I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
For a handset with such a broad range of standout features and specs, the Galaxy S II is remarkably easy to summarize. It's the best Android smartphone yet, but more importantly, it might well be the best smartphone, period. Of course, a 4.3-inch screen size won't suit everyone, no matter how stupendously thin the device that carries it may be, and we also can't say for sure that the Galaxy S II would justify a long-term iOS user foresaking his investment into one ecosystem and making the leap to another. Nonetheless, if you're asking us what smartphone to buy today, unconstrained by such externalities, the Galaxy S II would be the clear choice. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.
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That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.

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I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.
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Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.

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Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.
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The Dual core push is "bad" because they're running on software that is not yet optimized for Dual Core processors. The only things optimized for dual cores are Honeycomb and the upcoming Ice Cream Sandwich. But even then, Quadrant isn't optimized for Dual Cores. So like you said, Benchmarks mean nothing.
Also, they're running on Android 2.2 for the most part! LoL

That rubber will be peeling off after a couple months. Booo htc!
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That review doesn't surprise me at all. It will be a pile of crap phone. Watch...
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Man I pr-ordered the evo 3d at best buy last week and unrooted my nexus but man I cant let this thing go. I love this phone and I told my gf last night that imma stick with the ns4g. This phone feels good to own and I can't go to sense from aosp. I keep looking at the evo3d and it just looks ugly and gimmicky. I wish sprint got the sensation instead...
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Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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mikeyinid said:
Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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motobloat ehehehehe

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motobloat ehehehehe
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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur

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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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It will, but having a locked bootloader kills it. Not interested.
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mikeyinid said:
yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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This is the only Samsung phone I've had luck with. I'm 50/50 on swapping for the evo 3d. HTC phones tend to be heavy and for me that really kills it.

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G2 vs Nexus S? Makes G2 worthless?

Just got a new plan 2 phones me and my gf. Love the new phones and I love the xda app. Very useful and helpful. My brother is an iphone "fanboi" and he told me the nexus s is the better phone,
Without the keypad and memory xpansion is this true? I am in love with the new phone. Crisp fast.
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What's the highest you cyber punks have oc your phone to???
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What's the highest you cyber punks have oc your phone to???
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2ghz.......
Samsung can keep the nexus "s". I will never own a samsung phone.
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What's the highest you cyber punks have oc your phone to???
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Cyber punks? I'm at 1.8ghz stable. But yeah, someone has clocked to 2ghz, not stable though, yet.
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id sooner go back to my original milestone before buying a samsung. im very disappointed with the choice of a rebranded sgs and samsung. the first nexus 1 is still better than this new, fake nexus
to my point of view is that the g2 is and will be the high end phone of tmobile for a long time, period. nexus s is not that OMG, plus the only really good thing is that comes with gingerbread... other than that... well... is a Samsung lol
Well the g3 will be better then the nexus s for sure! My point being that there will always be a better phone comming out soon. Get what you want! Me i love keyboards and the g2 is the best one out. Good luck.
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Well the g3 will be better then the nexus s for sure! My point being that there will always be a better phone comming out soon. Get what you want! Me i love keyboards and the g2 is the best one out. Good luck.
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People shouldn't worry about if or when gingerbread is coming out on the G2. We have a very strong dev. section and backing of the greatest coders period. If you don't believe me then look at the Mytouch4G developmental thread and you quickly take note that topics of the 1st page date back a week. The G2 is successor of the god father of android.
OP, do you want a keyboard, a T-Mobile protection plan, LED notifications, or 4G. Yes, the Nexus S has a 16gb storage capacity but that only tells me that google has finally fixed the problem of android only viewing 2gb of available internal memory. At least I hope so because if they didn't then there will be alot of Nexus S owners upset that their device only claims 1.2 gb of internal memory.
The only device I see ever knocking the G2's crown off is the G3.
it really seems like samsung is rebadging their galaxy s phone to every carrier... this one has gingerbread but it's only a short time until every other high end phone gets gingerbread too. Samsung is actually skipping 2.2 with this release though. good for them ~_~
EDIT: where the hell is all this g3 talk coming from? is this something I haven't seen yet or is it all hypothetical
P.s. op, the overclock on this phone is fcuking fantastic.
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it really seems like samsung is rebadging their galaxy s phone to every carrier... this one has gingerbread but it's only a short time until every other high end phone gets gingerbread too. Samsung is actually skipping 2.2 with this release though. good for them ~_~
EDIT: where the hell is all this g3 talk coming from? is this something I haven't seen yet or is it all hypothetical
P.s. op, the overclock on this phone is fcuking fantastic.
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Hypothetical, just stating that the phone is really good and would probably only be succeeded by a G3.
I will keep this device until the g3 comes out for sure. This is a great device and samsung has a horrible build quality IMHO. The only thing Samsung has over the G2 is their 4" Super AMOLED screen. G2 has a respectable 3.7" Super TFT and is comparable, just smaller but not by much...
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I'll admit, I got a little excited when I saw the new Nexus was coming out...then I saw it was S and not 2...and that it was made by Samsung...and then that it wasn't the true successor the Nexus 1.
It's like meeting a really hot woman...and finding out she's a dude...with a bigger penis that you...and he's a minor...and your best friend already dated him...and he has a better car than you...and your last gf left you for him/her.
Just utter disappointment and disgust all around. If Sammy was going to plaster a name like Nexus on a phone, they should have done a hell of a lot better than the Nexus S.
Until the G3 comes out (which will probably have a dual-core, more memory, a keyboard, ice cream, be 4.5" SMIAAMOLED (Super Massive Incredibly Awesome Amoled) and wouldn't use the Nexus S to eat it's morning cereal, then I'm sticking with my G2.
Plus, I finally own a phone all the best devs work on, and that makes me a happy guy.
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I'll admit, I got a little excited when I saw the new Nexus was coming out...then I saw it was S and not 2...and that it was made by Samsung...and then that it wasn't the true successor the Nexus 1.
It's like meeting a really hot woman...and finding out she's a dude...with a bigger penis that you...and he's a minor...and your best friend already dated him...and he has a better car than you...and your last gf left you for him/her.
Just utter disappointment and disgust all around. If Sammy was going to plaster a name like Nexus on a phone, they should have done a hell of a lot better than the Nexus S.
Until the G3 comes out (which will probably have a dual-core, more memory, a keyboard, ice cream, be 4.5" SMIAAMOLED (Super Massive Incredibly Awesome Amoled) and wouldn't use the Nexus S to eat it's morning cereal, then I'm sticking with my G2.
Plus, I finally own a phone all the best devs work on, and that makes me a happy guy.
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LMAO...hahahaa
AbsolutZeroGI said:
I'll admit, I got a little excited when I saw the new Nexus was coming out...then I saw it was S and not 2...and that it was made by Samsung...and then that it wasn't the true successor the Nexus 1.
It's like meeting a really hot woman...and finding out she's a dude...with a bigger penis that you...and he's a minor...and your best friend already dated him...and he has a better car than you...and your last gf left you for him/her.
Just utter disappointment and disgust all around. If Sammy was going to plaster a name like Nexus on a phone, they should have done a hell of a lot better than the Nexus S.
Until the G3 comes out (which will probably have a dual-core, more memory, a keyboard, ice cream, be 4.5" SMIAAMOLED (Super Massive Incredibly Awesome Amoled) and wouldn't use the Nexus S to eat it's morning cereal, then I'm sticking with my G2.
Plus, I finally own a phone all the best devs work on, and that makes me a happy guy.
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umm..yuck. I was with you to the hot girl...man, after that it went to hell in a hand basket lol..guess thats your point ay lol
Whoa!
@AbsolutZeroGI....Sounds like you were really traumatized by the whole incident.Seriously though, you really should talk to someone.
The nexus S has the same proc as all the other sgs phones. Dont get me wrong, I like the screen and 2.3 but I could never switch. Lack of 4G, crappy design and no sd slot is a fail imo.
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The nexus S has the same proc as all the other sgs phones. Dont get me wrong, I like the screen and 2.3 but I could never switch. Lack of 4G, crappy design and no sd slot is a fail imo.
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Hate to break it to you, but Vision doesn't have 4G either. It has only 3G, despite FALSE ADVERTISING. Not the only lie in the spec sheet... they also said it had 4GB eMMC, when the chip is permanently set to 2.1GB.
ddgarcia05 said:
that only tells me that google has finally fixed the problem of android only viewing 2gb of available internal memory. At least I hope so because if they didn't then there will be alot of Nexus S owners upset that their device only claims 1.2 gb of internal memory.
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You seem to be thoroughly confused.
I suggest you go read the wiki. It explains everything.
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You seem to be thoroughly confused.
I suggest you go read the wiki. It explains everything.
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You couldn't just make thing easier for me and tell me. I'll just assume your right and I'm wrong.

Dear Motorola...it was fun but...

you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
its funny i had the inspire for 2 weeks....got rid of it a few days ago
got the Atrix...and THANK GOD I DID
4.3 inches at the **** resolution its at was a disaster, hurt my hands. Too heavy
not very fast, barely played videos (htc codecs suck)
Like you said, it comes down to opinion
but switching from inspire 4g to atrix was the best thing I ever did
PS: The battery on that thing gave me EPIC NIGHTMARES.
Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
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You actually can go wrong with HTC, its when they put a 1200 mah battery in a 1.8 ghz capable phone then you get to watch your battery lose a percent every 4 minutes of use. I had one it was totally BS battery life and was totally unacceptable. Then people say "just don't OC it" so then you have a 4.3 inch captivate with less ui lag, no usable internal memory storage, and GPS that works.
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Did u try launcher pro plus first motoblur is **** ill give you that but the phone is fast good battery life screen is nice... I'm loving it
i can't wait until i leave my epic 4g from sprint and come to the atrix community
i am tired of htc, samsung and sprints games so it times to give motorola and att a chance
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Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
Seconded.
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Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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HTC phones are so GENERIC. Its insulting you would even compare such a tired, re-hash of a device to the ATRIX.
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Or a
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'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
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Lol ;-)
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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LedGrip said:
I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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i like the Evo and a lot of people i kno and see around campus have either the evo or iphone 4, very few galaxy S phone, but honestly i think the Atrix is better then all of them, even the Galaxy S II won't compare judging from the specs that were given(but i can't prove it until the phone comes out so it's just an opinion)
I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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Had Inspire and Atrix. Kept Atrix. The end.
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I've had many htc phones and have always had a good experience. I had a hard time waiting for the atrix when I saw the inspire for $100. At that price point it is a steal for the features you get. In the end i'm glad I waited though. The Atrix is rediculously good!!! Super fast and great battery life (I get about 16 hours a charge... 16!!!) It is hands down the best phone i've ever used. Head shoulders and more above the rest, a GIANT among a sea of average phones.
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I was impressed by the Inspire back when it came out on Sprint as the Evo... what, eight months ago? I made the mistake of buying old hardware that just came out once, the Hero. Never again.
Coming from the Captivate, the only things I miss are how vibrant the games looked on SAMOLED and flashing the new hot stuff roms.
Do not miss accidently bricking the thing and having to use a USB jig to fix it though...
I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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Nexus s to atrix

Hi guys I'm a girl that doesn't know to much about new phones. I'm receiving my nexus s on Tuesday. I'm wondering is it a good trade to atrix? My cousin he wants to trade it. My nexus will be brand new. So should i do it or no?
Are you a nerd and want to customize?
I loved my n1 but their very different so I can't speak on the nexus s
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Yes I love to customize and root the phone eventually
ChongoDroid said:
Are you a nerd and want to customize?
I loved my n1 but their very different so I can't speak on the nexus s
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You'll be able to do little nerdy stuff on the atrix, so if rooting and having some fancy home screens considered enough then go for the atrix.
For me having 1 gb of memory + qHD res screen is a deal maker/breaker
Also, a doubt that the atrix's bootloader is gonna be locked forever anyway...
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Hi guys I'm a girl that doesn't know to much about new phones. I'm receiving my nexus s on Tuesday. I'm wondering is it a good trade to atrix? My cousin he wants to trade it. My nexus will be brand new. So should i do it or no?
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Get atrix.
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Do you require a wireless hotspot without having to hack? Do you want the newest android updates before anybody else? That would be the Nexus S.
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sofia-captivate said:
Hi guys I'm a girl that doesn't know to much about new phones. I'm receiving my nexus s on Tuesday. I'm wondering is it a good trade to atrix? My cousin he wants to trade it. My nexus will be brand new. So should i do it or no?
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You don't know too much about phones, but you want to root?
Are you really a girl? If a man asked this type of question, he would be ridiculed, but I suppose a girl wouldn't be, seeing as the majority of men here spend more time looking at their cell phone than the tits of the women sitting next to them on public transit.
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You don't know too much about phones, but you want to root?
Are you really a girl? If a man asked this type of question, he would be ridiculed, but I suppose a girl wouldn't be, seeing as the majority of men here spend more time looking at their cell phone than the tits of the women sitting next to them on public transit.
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Girl or man, we now know there is at least one ass here!
Go for the Atrix you'll love it I'm sure. You said you'd like to root and have a little fun with it, you can hook up the Atrix to a nice sized flat screen tv via hdmi and turn it into a computer. The Nexus S is also kinda outdated tech already. The newest thing is the dual core and 1GB of ram that's more powerful than my netbook lol.
thats just my 2 cents
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drock212 said:
Go for the Atrix you'll love it I'm sure. You said you'd like to root and have a little fun with it, you can hook up the Atrix to a nice sized flat screen tv via hdmi and turn it into a computer.
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Agreed!
I like to tweak, and I have been more than happy with what I have been able to do on my 1st droid phone with the help of the XDA community so far.
I connected my phone to my flat screen in the living room last night to show the the Webtop and the family couldn't believe what they saw.
Get an Atrix, and in 5 years when nobody carries laptops anymore, and it's all done with cell phones, you can say you had the 1st one!
I have an atrix right now and was thinking of switching to the nexus s, don't want to lose my 3.5 g though
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Both the phones have their own stand point.
Atrix on one hand does the deal breaking job with its Dual Core Processor/qHD Screen, but, it has MotoBlur and no Gingerbread in sight yet.
Nexus S on the other hand is Google's own, it has got all the Goodies except the Dual Core Processor/qHD Screen, but has Gingerbread on it already, has a SuperAMOLED Contour Display etc...
Holding two phones in your hands and comparing them side by side will do the trick. Go with what you like.
So far I love my Atrix. Haven't used NS yet, no comments about the performance, but if anyone wants to try different roms, NS is the one. There are a lots of Atrix users not liking the phone because of MotoBlur, which seems ok to me.
Personal Opinion : I like the way the bootloader is locked, so that you will have consistency on your phone, you don't have to back up your phone, messages, notes taken etc every now and then just because you are trying thousands of different ROMs available every weekend.
The Nexus S is clearly faster despite having inferior hardware, scrolling through homescreens and the app drawer is much faster on the nexus S. However, the atrix has the edge when you're actually opening those apps, albeit a small edge. The nexus S will receive more updates than the atrix and it's also already on a new version of the android OS.
However, i love my atrix. The fingerprint scanner (when it works) is pretty darn sweet and a great feature to have. I don't think dual core is even utilized yet, but i hope when it is the atrix will be even better than it already is. Oh, and the nexus S doesn't support 4G (?source). While the atrix doesn't have 4G yet, it should be coming out very soon.
sofia-captivate said:
Yes I love to customize and root the phone eventually
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Hey.... How YOU doin'?
Your more future proof with the Atrix, hardware wise atleast.
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Hey.... How YOU doin'?
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HAHAHAHAH man i love this forum
I switched to a nexus s, I get the same quadrant scores if not higher than the atrix. The phone feels great works amazing and the roms only make it better. There is no lag and the camera kicks the crap out of the atrix. Battery life is phemominal and much better than I had on the atrix, plus it's much more vibrant with the samoled vs pentile.
I would get a nexus because at least for the moment it works better than the atrix.
Not trying to be a jerk, but as someone who has had both devices I can say nexus is much better.
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sgtmedeiros said:
I switched to a nexus s, I get the same quadrant scores if not higher than the atrix. The phone feels great works amazing and the roms only make it better. There is no lag and the camera kicks the crap out of the atrix. Battery life is phemominal and much better than I had on the atrix, plus it's much more vibrant with the samoled vs pentile.
I would get a nexus because at least for the moment it works better than the atrix.
Not trying to be a jerk, but as someone who has had both devices I can say nexus is much better.
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I agree with you but I guess you are happy right now with NS because of the possibility to be able to flash any ROM anytime you want because of the Devs support. I wouldn't compare them both right now, as Atrix is not upgraded to Gingerbread yet. If the NS is still kicking Atrix's butt even after the upgrade, I am all in for this beast by Google.
I still love the stock Android experience, but Atrix's performance is not that bad. It does the job, it performs well. To me, except the VOIP voice support issue, everything else is much better than my N1 and iPhone 4. Battery life is way better than both, higher res screen is great, plus a Dual Core processor is a deal breaker... again, all of this is a personal preference.

Atrix vs sensation

I watched an atrix vs sensation youtube video. It was almost funny how badly the atrix while still running froyo spanked the sensation.
I think it's kind of funny when you look at what people want for an att band sensation. Some people want more than what an sgs2 costs while the atrix prices keep falling even with the unlocked bl and custom roms flowing in. The atrix screen although smaller, looked much better also.
I guess some people in the market place think others are stupid enough to pay $700 for a sensation that costs $549 new.
I'll keep my atrix and wait for the atrix 2 to come out with it's bigger screen.
Please don't flame me for this, it's just something I wanted to get off of my chest.
That and I think it's kind of funny that a phone (atrix) took so much crap for it's first few months spanks a phone that while being locked down gets paused by the majority.
My atrix
Oh yeah, man, the Atrix I got is awesome.
I lurk in the Marketplace and I see everyone's desire for a Sensation or a GS2 and I just don't see it either.
I thought you were crazy when you sold your GS2 and kept the Atrix but now I understand why.
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Oh yeah, man, the Atrix I got is awesome.
I lurk in the Marketplace and I see everyone's desire for a Sensation or a GS2 and I just don't see it either.
I thought you were crazy when you sold your GS2 and kept the Atrix but now I understand why.
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Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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People want a sensation for sense 3.0. People want a SGSII because of the SAMOLED screen and 8MP camera.
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How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Its not fat, its just big boned!
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Completely agree with your opinion of the Photon, its pretty much the exact same phone but with a better camera and the worst phone design I've seen. I normally don't care about appearances, but if I were on sprint I wouldn't buy it on looks alone.
With regards to the Atrix's reception, I think that has to do with how terrible the webtop implementation is. Its slow, feels incomplete and definitely not worth the hefty asking price. While that's not the fault of the phone itself, the webtop functionality is a large part of why it got so much attention in the first place.
What (I think) we have is a very vocal minority that's tarnishing its reputation. Most who've tried the phone know how great it is.
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Its not fat, its just big boned!
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I lol'ed.
also the only thing devices such as the sensation had over the ATRIX was the unlocked bootloader, and now that advantage is gone. we now have a championship contender in this sexy device.
Sent from my int'l unlocked ATRIX. ROM infinitely variable.
I like my Atrix. Although the bootloader unlocked now, being locked for so long hurt, as few devs have come to the phone to do anything even after the unlock (compare to the evo 3d. Look at all those ROMs....ALREADY!) The build quality is also poor
And I agree, the webtop kinda sent the wrong message, especially because it kinda failed...
However, out of all phones I, as am AT&T user could have, I would only want the Atrix as of now
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Three things they could have done to make the webtop infinitely better and better received
- two finger or side scrolling on touchpad
- bigger keyboard!?!?!? Who designed the ergonomics on that thing
- PRICE PRICE PRICE - costs more than netbook for half a netbook?!?!
And on the phone side
- released w/ gingerbread. Speed diff is like night and day IMO.
Had they pushed it out the door a month later with gingerbread preloaded it would have been a much better contender. Thank god for unlocked BL
*Thinks* The Nexus Prime running icecream sandwich will end this debate.... it will be mine
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Three things they could have done to make the webtop infinitely better and better received
- two finger or side scrolling on touchpad
- bigger keyboard!?!?!? Who designed the ergonomics on that thing
- PRICE PRICE PRICE - costs more than netbook for half a netbook?!?!
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Can we agree that, at least in the US (I honestly don't know how carriers in other nations handled it), the requirement to have a tethering plan even for occasional use on the mobile network was the final nail in the coffin of Atrix's reputation? Great phone but they practically have to give it away, owing mostly to Webtop being so overhyped, overpriced, and underwhelming...
donharden2002 said:
Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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In some ways I could say the same things about my upgrade from the Milestone to the Atrix. Some days I still don't know I the upgrade is "truly" justified since I had high expectations and with Froyo it's not that much of an upgrade. On top of that, GB appears to have issues. (And its not limited to this device)
That's why my lower spec SGS still appeals to me since its more "different".
In the end I don't know how iPhone users can use the same phone year in and year out?...
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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Expectations were set too high IMO, and Motoblur really bogged this phone down. Too much excitement was probably set around the first dual-core/1GB mem device.
For many this was their first Motoblur phone and some now understand why MB is a PITA.
By all means I'm not trying to TC, and people will tear apart the Photon too.
The Photon is only getting love because it has that new car smell that's all.
The Nexus Prime is the next "it phone" but there will be many that will criticize that too, and the cycle will start over. Rinse, wash, repeat...
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What I learnt from this thread is that you find a lot of things and people funny.
donharden2002 said:
Yep, I got bored with the sgs2 very fast. It reminded me of a slightly faster bigger captivate. I think touchwiz no matter how much they tweak it is boring. I do like sense but am very glad I didn't trade my atrix and transformer for a sensation.
I'm very happy with my atrix.
How are you and your family doing, I hope you guys are well and that your dad is doing good.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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My family is doing good. My dad is okay but the last time we heard from him he and the rest of his unit were stuck in Leipzig, Germany. The left wing broke on the plane they were in...thankfully they were close to the ground. Lol. That was 3 days ago. He should be calling us sometime soon. Thanks for asking.
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kimmikolter said:
How did the Atrix go from most loved and anticipated phone of CES 2011 to the most hated dual core? I see more praise for the Photon which (imo) is SO much the optometry of a big bowl o' ugly (plus it's fat). Sigh....
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+100000!!!!
Same with the Bionic (even before we knew they switched out the processors and doubled the RAM) everyones going crazy with anticipation for it when it was essentially the same phone as the Atrix with half the RAM. Now I guess it's the same (not sure where OMAP stacks against Tegra?).
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+100000!!!!
Same with the Bionic (even before we knew they switched out the processors and doubled the RAM) everyones going crazy with anticipation for it when it was essentially the same phone as the Atrix with half the RAM. Now I guess it's the same (not sure where OMAP stacks against Tegra?).
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I think in the case of the Bionic, the issue was it kept getting delayed. The people who wanted to buy it eventually settled on something else because they wanted/needed a new phone.
Atrix>Sensation
Jotokun said:
Completely agree with your opinion of the Photon, its pretty much the exact same phone but with a better camera and the worst phone design I've seen. I normally don't care about appearances, but if I were on sprint I wouldn't buy it on looks alone.
With regards to the Atrix's reception, I think that has to do with how terrible the webtop implementation is. Its slow, feels incomplete and definitely not worth the hefty asking price. While that's not the fault of the phone itself, the webtop functionality is a large part of why it got so much attention in the first place.
What (I think) we have is a very vocal minority that's tarnishing its reputation. Most who've tried the phone know how great it is.
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well one huge diff with photon is that it has HDMI mirroring AND webtop...

Good AT&T phones?

I have a Samsung infuse and was wondering what's better? Besides sgs2
INFUSE 1.6 OC
SGS2 period
there's nothing that can beat it at the moment
Yes I know.. so I'm asking what's below it?? Is there anything better than the infuse BESIDES sgs2 as I've already stated
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Another good phone would have to be the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play.
I have this phone and its a great device for games. It has its cons but as a gaming machine its awesome. Xperia Play optimsed games, android games, emulator games from PS1 and below.
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Yes I know.. so I'm asking what's below it?? Is there anything better than the infuse BESIDES sgs2 as I've already stated
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The Infuse is the best AT&T has at the moment. I feel it's even better than the SGS2. The iPhone 4 is the next one down from the SGS2 and then Inspire 4G.
im waiting for my sgs 2
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Next best thing on ATT is the Inspire 4G. The Atrix is crap...don't get it. The Infuse is meh...
When the htc holiday comes out it will be big
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SGS2 comes out tomorrow (Sunday at ATT with 2.3.5 OS), within a 4-6 weeks several new phones will be out, iPhone5, the next Google phone, (optimus prime, nexus prime, galaxy nexus, whatev with new ice cream sandwidge O.S.), and several others, HTC Titan (new Windows O.S.). They all have similar specs, very nice screen sizes / resolution, cameras, dual core processors, memory, etc, etc.
How has no one mentioned the Thrill? It's better than the Infuse. Also the only ATT phone with 3D, gimmick or not.
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I personally like the infuse. Like the screen and everything it has to offer.. I wish it had dual core but it don't and its still good enough for everyday use.. OC to 1.6 is plenty enough.
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Dkj7777 said:
When the htc holiday comes out it will be big
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Yes, can't wait for HTC holiday.
TJBunch1228 said:
How has no one mentioned the Thrill? It's better than the Infuse. Also the only ATT phone with 3D, gimmick or not.
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Probably because LG phones are generally very poor devices with a history of being very low quality.
Agreed
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Willieumm said:
Probably because LG phones are generally very poor devices with a history of being very low quality.
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LG is the third largest mobile phone division on Earth... The basic phones they make are some of the most resilient phones ever made. They have cheap, low quality options that you might say are of low quality, but you get what you pay for. Their smart phones are solid. I have only played with the Thrill a little bit in my store, but if the hardware is anything like my G2x that phone is a monster.
At the very least, it's still a top-tier ATT offering, and deserves mention in regard to this thread.
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TJBunch1228 said:
LG is the third largest mobile phone division on Earth... The basic phones they make are some of the most resilient phones ever made. They have cheap, low quality options that you might say are of low quality, but you get what you pay for. Their smart phones are solid. I have only played with the Thrill a little bit in my store, but if the hardware is anything like my G2x that phone is a monster.
At the very least, it's still a top-tier ATT offering, and deserves mention in regard to this thread.
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I agree with the other poster, LG phones...LG products altogether...are very poor. They aren't as reliable as alternatives. And this is determined from multiple LG products used. And also what I see online.
I have an HTC Inspire and it has been great so far
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I agree with the other poster, LG phones...LG products altogether...are very poor. They aren't as reliable as alternatives. And this is determined from multiple LG products used. And also what I see online.
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I don't disagree at all. They have pretty serious quality control issues regarding software, but I've never had issues with hardware. But someone who is doing serious shopping of high end ATT devices would not be doing their due diligence if they completely ruled out this phone due to someone else's past experience with OTHER LG devices. They should read reviews on THIS phone and at least hold a live device in their hand to get a feel before completely ruling it out based on the opinion of people who haven't even used this particular phone. That's all I'm saying.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/173...d-samsung-galaxy-s2-motorola-droid-bionic.htm
good comparo (review above), looks like if you don't live in:
Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta and San Antonio
Then you won't see LTE for more than a year (likely 1.5 years for 10 more cities, and longer for others);
Looks like the screen resolution is a little bit better on the holiday,
4.5-inch qHD 540 x 960
but not sure how much difference that would make over the sgs2 with gorilla glass and 4.3-inch 480 x 800 pixels Super AMOLED Plus
They are both a huge upgrade over my old HTC tilt2
Just curious are there any dual core phones that the infuse can beat?? Overclocked or not its still a single core.. just curious
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