I am new the to the GT10.1.. Just wondering why there are no custom roms or anything for it yet?!?
Sorry if I missed the thread telling me why!
jm6001 said:
I am new the to the GT10.1.. Just wondering why there are no custom roms or anything for it yet?!?
Sorry if I missed the thread telling me why!
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So few people have the tablet at the moment, suspect that's the hold up. It still hasn't been released to the rest of the US.
How much can you do without the source code?
There's not much you can do without the source. The xoom only got it's first rom a few days ago and it does not have all that many changes. Once we get the kernel source, we should start seeing some custom kernels(for overclocking and stuff) but that's about it.
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There's not much you can do without the source. The xoom only got it's first rom a few days ago and it does not have all that many changes. Once we get the kernel source, we should start seeing some custom kernels(for overclocking and stuff) but that's about it.
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That's what I figured. I'm sure you can change around a few small things, but for the most part didn't expect what I'd consider a true "custom rom."
Will probably have to wait for Ice Cream Sandwich.
I think we can thank google for that as they have chosen not to release the AOSP for honeycomb. And who knows when samsung will release the kernel source. I would have thought they would have released it by now.
xavierdylan said:
I think we can thank google for that as they have chosen not to release the AOSP for honeycomb. And who knows when samsung will release the kernel source. I would have thought they would have released it by now.
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I'm not exactly sure what the law is but they will have to release it eventually.. The linux kernel is under the GPL, which means that any modifications to it are, without question, also under the GPL. Therefore, they have to make their version of the kernel open source at some point. Does anyone know how long they have to do so?
Does any one know if the retail version of the galaxy tab have an unlocked boot loader and if can be rooted? cant seem to find that info ne where. if it has a locked bootloader you can forget abt custom roms till the bootloader can be unlocked
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I was wondering why its been so quite after HTC released the new kernel for the Sprint Hero, I thought that was the missing link that was needed for complete 1.6/2.0/2.1 roms?
It hasn't been quiet.
Also the kernel that HTC released needs to be ported to 2.6.29 to fully work with 1.6+.
All this info is on the forum & easily obtainable.
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It hasn't been quiet.
Also the kernel that HTC released needs to be ported to 2.6.29 to fully work with 1.6+.
All this info is on the forum & easily obtainable.
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I just thought we would see some 1.6/2.0/2.1 releases now that the kernel was released, that's all
There's been 1.6+ releases for a while...
Let me elaborate a little here:
This kernel that was released is not a magic bullet, it allows us to see what code needs to be changed to get the correct Kernel to run these newer versions. It also lets us make any performance changes we can find.
All of the changes need to be put into the current kernel source,making it a .29 or whatever we need.
It has been fairly quite, we aren't seeing tons of Roms being thrown out to the market, thankfully. Our devs are taking all the time they need to make sure everything works and is stable. We should see some big stuff happen in the next week or so.
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There's been 1.6+ releases for a while...
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Yea but not completely working, which I thought the new kernel would fix?
kyrumo71 said:
Yea but not completely working, which I thought the new kernel would fix?
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the kernel that HTC released needs to be ported to 2.6.29
All this info is on the forum & easily obtainable.
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Kcarpenter said:
Let me elaborate a little here:
This kernel that was released is not a magic bullet, it allows us to see what code needs to be changed to get the correct Kernel to run these newer versions. It also lets us make any performance changes we can find.
All of the changes need to be put into the current kernel source,making it a .29 or whatever we need.
It has been fairly quite, we aren't seeing tons of Roms being thrown out to the market, thankfully. Our devs are taking all the time they need to make sure everything works and is stable. We should see some big stuff happen in the next week or so.
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Good to know, I guess I'm like a kid in the candy store, thanks for educating me on the kernel process.
Modaco's 2.2 has the customized kernel in it now.. read the front page of the Hero forum for the link..
its very nice..
tyrnight said:
Modaco's 2.2 has the customized kernel in it now.. read the front page of the Hero forum for the link..
its very nice..
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Yea that's what I'm rocking right now, I'm just impatient for a fully funcional newer OS
So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
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So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
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I unfortunately haven't the answer but I'd like to add that I am curious about this too.
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I unfortunately haven't the answer but I'd like to add that I am curious about this too.
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I'll second this and ask that if you do figure it out, please share with the community.
I think that vanilla Roms are a little further away in the future. First step in the process right now would be for someone to be able to compile a kernel from the Samsung released source code that works. Unfortunately the current Captivate kernel source code, when compiled, causes issues (voices garbled, lag when waking up the phone) that are not present in the stock precompiled kernel. These bugs are apparently not present in the other versions of the source code. Once these initial bugs are ironed out, we can truly start down the path of having custom fixes, and the devs can start to focus on bigger challenges, like making the vanilla Eclair or Froyo Roms to start working with our kernel. Good thing about this phone is that there are going to be so many versions of it, that parallel development is happening on multiple platforms. This will likely produce independent breakthroughs that could be theoretically ported between the platforms, but unfortunately it also slows down the development of each platform due to the quirks that have to be overcome. I hope that, in the future, we get to a place where all the source codes are merged into master repository that has all the necessary improvements and the ability to overcome individual platform quirks, so that the development can proceed more rapidly.
hallfleming said:
So talking to my buddy about all the "junk" loaded on the Samsung, he kept raving about how his old Nexus One was just the way I would like it. I would like to have a "plain" version of Android 2.1 on my phone. I have a coworker friend that's a Linux guru that's willing to help. Here's my questions.
Can I take take the Samsung released source for the hardware drivers and compile it with a stock Android 2.1 platform? I'm not asking for step by step. More of a 10,000 foot how to. Is that possible?
Can you leave the CSC and Modem info the same and just install a PDA ROM with Odin? Or would you be overwriting all of that info on the phone?
Thanks and if this has been answered before, please fill free to say "search is your friend" and give me the links...
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Check out this wiki from cyanogen:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
On the bottom right you will see an advanced section that explains how to build from source code. (aosp)
Good luck!!! It's definitely not for me, not with kids and a full time job!
Good info. I haven't seen a post on people testing out the source code testing and their experience. Can you IM or point me to that?
Thanks!
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I think that vanilla Roms are a little further away in the future. First step in the process right now would be for someone to be able to compile a kernel from the Samsung released source code that works. Unfortunately the current Captivate kernel source code, when compiled, causes issues (voices garbled, lag when waking up the phone) that are not present in the stock precompiled kernel. These bugs are apparently not present in the other versions of the source code. Once these initial bugs are ironed out, we can truly start down the path of having custom fixes, and the devs can start to focus on bigger challenges, like making the vanilla Eclair or Froyo Roms to start working with our kernel. Good thing about this phone is that there are going to be so many versions of it, that parallel development is happening on multiple platforms. This will likely produce independent breakthroughs that could be theoretically ported between the platforms, but unfortunately it also slows down the development of each platform due to the quirks that have to be overcome. I hope that, in the future, we get to a place where all the source codes are merged into master repository that has all the necessary improvements and the ability to overcome individual platform quirks, so that the development can proceed more rapidly.
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Also for clarification, when you bought a Nexus One straight from Google for AT&T, was it considered "Vanilla"? Is the build on that phone just like someone downloaded the source for 2.1 and compiled it with the hardware drivers and that's it? I'm wondering what all comes on a "basic" Andriod ROM straight from the source.
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Also for clarification, when you bought a Nexus One straight from Google for AT&T, was it considered "Vanilla"? Is the build on that phone just like someone downloaded the source for 2.1 and compiled it with the hardware drivers and that's it? I'm wondering what all comes on a "basic" Andriod ROM straight from the source.
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Nexus One is as Vanilla as it comes. Just straight up Android! I don't think there is anything added to stock 2.1 or 2.2 on the Nexus.
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Good info. I haven't seen a post on people testing out the source code testing and their experience. Can you IM or point me to that?
Thanks!
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Most of the kernel compiling struggles are documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740747
Mimocan himself has started some work on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747040
There are also people having success mixing Vibrant ROM on the Captivate with some GPS crash issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746466
I am trying to follow those threads, and since I am not a developer, I can't personally contribute to the process. But it is interesting to me anyway.
I've seen these before. I thought they were just edited versions of ROM's sucked off a existing phone. Are these compiled from scratch?
rajendra82 said:
Most of the kernel compiling struggles are documented here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740747
Mimocan himself has started some work on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747040
There are also people having success mixing Vibrant ROM on the Captivate with some GPS crash issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746466
I am trying to follow those threads, and since I am not a deveoper, I can't personally contribute to the process. But it is interesting to me anyway.
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I've seen these before. I thought they were just edited versions of ROM's sucked off a existing phone. Are these compiled from scratch?
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The first two are attempts to recompile the kernel to put in the ext3/ext4 mimocan fix. The third one I believe is a script for boot logo animation hack to achieve the same thing.
I forgot to mention one more thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739823
So we've got the source code with drivers and know which ones to use from the T959 for fixing the voice issue. We've got the stock kernel. What's left to creat a plain jane captivate?
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So we've got the source code with drivers and know which ones to use from the T959 for fixing the voice issue. We've got the stock kernel. What's left to creat a plain jane captivate?
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I'm guessing not too much. There are somethings that would need to be edited such as handling the capacitive buttons. The i9000 roms handle buttons differently regardless of the kernel so, its apparently an OS level config.
I've been wanting to work on this but I've been neck deep in source code from work.
Here is a good how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561
Thanks for the link. The US codes out there so we don't need i9000 port
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Thanks for the link. The US codes out there so we don't need i9000 port
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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My point was that given the I9000 rom needs source level changes in order to work as expected(haptic feedback on certain buttons, etc) then running an AOSP build may require some source level changes as well. It may not be as simple as building and flashing.
http://developer.htc.com/
Released today ! Hooray!
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This IS DEVELOPMENT!!!
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Umm, its negligible. To start a thread in development you need to have created something for other people to test and use. Posting a link to a website which developers probably check every day doesn't really count.
cjward23 said:
Umm, its negligible. To start a thread in development you need to have created something for other people to test and use. Posting a link to a website which developers probably check every day doesn't really count.
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I am in agreement here; this should not be in dev as it is just a link to the kernel released, no actual development is being done. It belongs in general. Plus, you guys need to stop bickering damnit! Time to start this thread with a clean slate.
So can an overclock kernel be developed from this and will it be?
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So can an overclock kernel be developed from this and will it be?
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We all ready have kernels based on this source. Have had for a while, it just released on a different website
"rmk40: People keep mentioning the kernel source on htcdev.com. They didn't release anything new that wasn't already on developer.htc.com."
--http://twitter.com/rmk40/status/101152290647449601
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
cjward23 said:
We all ready have kernels based on this source. Have had for a while, it just released on a different website
"rmk40: People keep mentioning the kernel source on htcdev.com. They didn't release anything new that wasn't already on developer.htc.com."
--http://twitter.com/rmk40/status/101152290647449601
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
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Ok. Well this is the kernel used on the ota gb on my g2. Can you please point me to the kernel that will oc my ota gb g2 and not break anything. Like wifi etc. Please....
mike102871 said:
Ok. Well this is the kernel used on the ota gb on my g2. Can you please point me to the kernel that will oc my ota gb g2 and not break anything. Like wifi etc. Please....
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I assume that you are rooted. I'm not sure what kernels are currently working on gb ota. I've been using sense for a few months so I'm not up-to-date with what is working on stock rooted roms.
This one might work http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180071
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I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread. Now I know many of you know this, along with the i896 source, is out, but there wasn't a thread for it and the i896 one had issues, so here . Hopefully we can get some development going for those of us that want *shutters* Audience Chip drivers, along with the many features that are present in the i9000 roms.
Just search KK4 on here: https://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp
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I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread. Now I know many of you know this, along with the i896 source, is out, but there wasn't a thread for it and the i896 one had issues, so here . Hopefully we can get some development going for those of us that want *shutters* Audience Chip drivers, along with the many features that are present in the i9000 roms.
Just search KK4 on here: https://opensource.samsung.com/index.jsp
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
But, if really want to stick with GB(usually MIUI and CyanogenMOD).
I would like:
a.) The Audience Chip thingy.
b.) Battery life.
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
But, if really want to stick with GB(usually MIUI and CyanogenMOD).
I would like:
a.) The Audience Chip thingy.
b.) Battery life.
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What? I'm not making anything. I was informing the community (those who didn't know) of the source code.
nygfan760 said:
What? I'm not making anything. I was informing the community (those who didn't know) of the source code.
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Yea, I know.
I just want to tell AT&T/Samsung is SLOW for their firmware codes sharing... too stingy...
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Doesn't bother me anymore since now ICS is doing great.
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yea I been onICS for 24 hours now ,, its great , but nothing special I see very few differences in anything , except I am missing all of the features I m use to on GB .
imo dotn believe the hype , the only 2 things I like about my current ICS set up is sixstring kernel allows me to OC higher then on sammy rom (not higher then cm7 tho) and the launcher is pretty cool but still not as nice as on the gnex .
Eventho its 2.3.5 I welcome source of KK4
eventho Im 2.3.6 (i9000 base )
I'm looking forward to the more refined kernels the source code release should bring around. Those features we've been missing will now be possible.
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I'm preparing to be flamed, but I figured I might as well create this thread.
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Why? There is already a thread created in General. This is where searching comes in handy.
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Why? There is already a thread created in General. This is where searching comes in handy.
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Saw the thread. It is a discussion thread about the firmware, this thread is to alert people of the actual source code, so we can get new kernels and stuffs Also, aren't most source code threads posted in here? At least for Froyo, and i896 GB, I believe they were.
Audience chip support was already extracted from the I896 gingerbread source kernel. It is available in the i9000 captivate corn kernel. Specifically gave me thanks for being able to introduce audience tip finally.
If you would like Audience support in any other kernels just contact the developer of corn.. A few months ago
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Audience chip support was already extracted from the I896 gingerbread source kernel. It is available in the i9000 captivate corn kernel. Specifically gave me thanks for being able to introduce audience tip finally.
If you would like Audience support in any other kernels just contact the developer of corn.. A few months ago
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I know, I know, I have been running it for a while now.
but im surprised that kk4 was final release. had time-stamp issue.
but now if we can get a unbranded kernel, we can have a complete unbranded rom with the ATT removal mods i posted while back.
TRusselo said:
but im surprised that kk4 was final release. had time-stamp issue.
but now if we can get a unbranded kernel, we can have a complete unbranded rom with the ATT removal mods i posted while back.
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I'm pretty sure that problem only happens when you put AT&T software on an i896. I can't say for sure though because both my cappy's are canadian. Anyways I don't think ts a problem with the phone per se.. I think its a network thing. There is no time stamp issue for people on the AT&T network that I know of.
KK4 Source has been available since around Christmas. Some of the I897 kernel devs have been trying to compile a kernel from source but have been running into issues with the kernel not booting which is why you haven't seen any yet.
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I'm pretty sure that problem only happens when you put AT&T software on an i896. I can't say for sure though because both my cappy's are canadian. Anyways I don't think ts a problem with the phone per se.. I think its a network thing. There is no time stamp issue for people on the AT&T network that I know of.
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Its a network AND software issue. Either they can fix the problem though the network, (its been done before) or you can de-compile the MMS.apk and change a line of code to fix the problem.
Kyuta Syuko said:
KK4 Source has been available since around Christmas. Some of the I897 kernel devs have been trying to compile a kernel from source but have been running into issues with the kernel not booting which is why you haven't seen any yet.
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that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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Its a network AND software issue. Either they can fix the problem though the network, (its been done before) or you can de-compile the MMS.apk and change a line of code to fix the problem.
that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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He is a kernel dev but yeah I hope that isn't the problem.
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that was the kh2 rogers i896 source that they were having trouble with.... or are they having trouble with kk4 also???
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Both JSmokey and I haven't been able to get a kernel compiled from the KK4 source that we had gotten around Christmas. Though JSmokey said he did have a working kernel before, but isn't certain what he did to make it not work anymore. I've even tried to compile a stock kernel per the included instructions with no luck...
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Both JSmokey and I haven't been able to get a kernel compiled from the KK4 source that we had gotten around Christmas. Though JSmokey said he did have a working kernel before, but isn't certain what he did to make it not work anymore. I've even tried to compile a stock kernel per the included instructions with no luck...
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Same here, there must be something missing. Pulling a dmsg doesn't give much help, something about wanting sh in /system/bin (I think).
I have moved over to cyanogenmod 7 for now, waiting for cm9. Lots to tinker with there.
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Same here, there must be something missing. Pulling a dmsg doesn't give much help, something about wanting sh in /system/bin (I think).
I have moved over to cyanogenmod 7 for now, waiting for cm9. Lots to tinker with there.
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.... no our original 2.3 kernel dev has given up
Sounds like the only way to get bln is to go to 2.2 or i9000.
Wdustin1 said:
.... no our original 2.3 kernel dev has given up
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Maybe we can ask DG for help. I know he has moved on a long time ago, but recently he came back and helped with ICS kernel development. If he could help us getting KK4 kernel compiled from source, I am sure we will see a lot more ROM development going on.
Hey guys was just wondering if there any developers who are working on some new ROMS for our MXP as it seems very quiet in the development sections of the forums, couple of variations of stock rom and that's pretty much it.
Was expecting for development to pick up after the MM but its been VERY quiet.
Not a complaint just wondering if there are things going on behind the curtains like development being done or some CM13 or anything along those lines.
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Hey guys was just wondering if there any developers who are working on some new ROMS for our MXP as it seems very quiet in the development sections of the forums, couple of variations of stock rom and that's pretty much it.
Was expecting for development to pick up after the MM but its been VERY quiet.
Not a complaint just wondering if there are things going on behind the curtains like development being done or some CM13 or anything along those lines.
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Having MM OTA out is not enough.
Not much can be done until Motorola will release the kernel source
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Having MM OTA out is not enough.
Not much can be done until Motorola will release the kernel source
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Any idea if its going to get released and if yes then when ?
and out of self interest what does the kernel source enable developers to do ?
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Any idea if its going to get released and if yes then when ?
and out of self interest what does the kernel source enable developers to do ?
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It's totally depended on Motorola.
The source enable developers to release AOSP roms and custom kernels.
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It's totally depended on Motorola.
The source enable developers to release AOSP roms and custom kernels.
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Has Motorola been known to release kernel sources before for previous flagships ?
Would love for them to release the binaries and device tree for AOSP builds...
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Has Motorola been known to release kernel sources before for previous flagships ?
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They are required to release any changes to the kernel they have made due to the GPL license that the linux kernel is protected by. so its not a matter of if but when.
MM and now kernel source released, and still, slow as hell. Sucks. I thought this phone would be one of the most active in development, was i wrong.
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
I'm on retail Asia variant which leaves me with 1 rom. And I can't even get mm for my variant let alone custom roms.
What happened to this phone?
Please go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/happened-to-phone-t3283551
to continue this topic if possible, thank you