Hi
Can I play movies on PC from nexus 4 while it's connected with USB cable like it was a regular flash drive?
When I try doing it the file is being downloaded first then plays. If the file is big it takes a lot of time.
I'm using windows 8.
Better copy the film to your pc first. I got the same problem but dont think this is os related. Just a bad read speed, worse than actually usb 2.0.
The speed is onpair with usb 2.0, still copying the whole movie to some unknown place instead of direct play is unnecessary and waste of time.
My previous phone had an sdcard which appeared as hard drive when connected to PC, but N4 appears as portable device. This sucks
That's because the Nexus 4 doesn't support USB On The Go. Search xda for "Nexus 4 OTG" and you'll come across some threads about this, and a couple of workarounds that might, or might not work for you :fingers-crossed:.
Hey there
I wasn't looking for USB OTG, which is a way to connect external drives to the device. I'm looking for a way to use N4 itself as a regular external drive while connected to PC. Currently it's seen by PC as a portable device and it's pretty limited.
abbba said:
Hey there
I wasn't looking for USB OTG, which is a way to connect external drives to the device. I'm looking for a way to use N4 itself as a regular external drive while connected to PC. Currently it's seen by PC as a portable device and it's pretty limited.
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I would assume increasing the SD read-ahead (if you're on a custom kernel) might help with your issue here. But as someone else previously mentioned, copying to PC is definitely the better option. That, or just enjoy the movie on your Nexus4
Hey guys,
I manage easily to mount 16gb USB stick using stick mount, but when it comes to my 1tb Toshiba self 2,5 drive, no way.
Is it actually possible to run these big boys on our tablets?? It works on my n7100....
if you can help i'll ne glad to hear from you
Cheers
wwwpuntoit said:
Hey guys,
I manage easily to mount 16gb USB stick using stick mount, but when it comes to my 1tb Toshiba self 2,5 drive, no way.
Is it actually possible to run these big boys on pur tablets?? It works on my n7100....
if you can help i'll ne glad to hear from you
Cheers
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Nobody has a clue ??
I'm pretty sure there's already a thread about this try searching it. I think someone had a similar issue with a500 gig hard drive and they got it working
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abdel12345 said:
I'm pretty sure there's already a thread about this try searching it. I think someone had a similar issue with a500 gig hard drive and they got it working
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yes i've been doing some searching but no luck so far:crying:
wwwpuntoit said:
yes i've been doing some searching but no luck so far:crying:
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I'll try looking for it on a little and post it here if I find it because I'm sure I've seen one before
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I'll try looking for it on a little and post it here if I find it because I'm sure I've seen one before
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thanks mate, that's would nice if you could.
Ok it turned out the thread was about powering an external hard drive not connecting one but I found this app http://nexususb.blogspot.com/ called nexus media importer that say s it may work with hard drives. You should try it and see if it works.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990324 you can also check out this thread. I see some posts saying that they got it working as long as it's a self powered drive. One person said stickynount app let's you connect a similar hdd to yours but you need root.
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Ok it turned out the thread was about powering an external hard drive not connecting one but I found this app http://nexususb.blogspot.com/ called nexus media importer that say s it may work with hard drives. You should try it and see if it works.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990324 you can also check out this thread. I see some posts saying that they got it working as long as it's a self powered drive. One person said stickynount app let's you connect a similar hdd to yours but you need root.
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thanks i'll give these a try and report back
sort of
I don't have my ordered N10 yet but I do have N4 and N7 and I have connected 1TB USB storage before so have some experience. The answer is a possible yes, depending on a few factors. You got the power issue and the filesystem issue.
For power, there is only so much coming out of the Android's USB port and if your storage device is on the higher powered side and gets its power from USB then you can be screwed, so more likely to work are ones which have their own power supply. Or, you can find a kernel hack which lets OTG host mode (I think that's what it is called?) which uses a Y-cable which takes power in and provides a USB connector. I have such had such Y-cable work with a specific Nexus 7 kernel (Timur kernel on Android 4.2) and recently Ziddey's kernel on my Nexus 4 also.
For filesystem, Stickmount, supports NTFS read-only, so you can connect to android device a device which is read-write on say a laptop/PC and copy files off - to be honest that is good enough for what you'd intend to - a fast copy of large amount of files before you go away from home for example. Or, you can format the drive in a more native to Linux filesystem like ext2, ext3, ext4 to get read-write large file support. Depending on what you also connect that drive to it might work, e.g. there are some ext3 drivers for Windows, or you can have say a Rasberry PI running Debian as your LAN NAS host and unplug the drive and connect to Android.
I have a Seagate 500GB drive, formatted as NTFS, and it does work with my N4 and N7 and so I predict it also will work with my N10. I have a Hitachi 1TB drive, it does work on my N4 as there is the Y-cable USB power ziddey hack but only on my N7 if I keep it on 4.2.2 with the Timur kernel hack. So what I did is I keep the 1TB formatted ext3 connecting to a Linux NAS device (a Seagate dockstar running Debian but a Rasberry Pi running Rasbian would the modern equivalent), and the 500GB drive is what I use as my carry-around device which connects to all my devices for fast large file transfer.
What is your intended use for a 1TB connected to N10?
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I don't have my ordered N10 yet but I do have N4 and N7 and I have connected 1TB USB storage before so have some experience. The answer is a possible yes, depending on a few factors. You got the power issue and the filesystem issue.
For power, there is only so much coming out of the Android's USB port and if your storage device is on the higher powered side and gets its power from USB then you can be screwed, so more likely to work are ones which have their own power supply. Or, you can find a kernel hack which lets OTG host mode (I think that's what it is called?) which uses a Y-cable which takes power in and provides a USB connector. I have such had such Y-cable work with a specific Nexus 7 kernel (Timur kernel on Android 4.2) and recently Ziddey's kernel on my Nexus 4 also.
For filesystem, Stickmount, supports NTFS read-only, so you can connect to android device a device which is read-write on say a laptop/PC and copy files off - to be honest that is good enough for what you'd intend to - a fast copy of large amount of files before you go away from home for example. Or, you can format the drive in a more native to Linux filesystem like ext2, ext3, ext4 to get read-write large file support. Depending on what you also connect that drive to it might work, e.g. there are some ext3 drivers for Windows, or you can have say a Rasberry PI running Debian as your LAN NAS host and unplug the drive and connect to Android.
I have a Seagate 500GB drive, formatted as NTFS, and it does work with my N4 and N7 and so I predict it also will work with my N10. I have a Hitachi 1TB drive, it does work on my N4 as there is the Y-cable USB power ziddey hack but only on my N7 if I keep it on 4.2.2 with the Timur kernel hack. So what I did is I keep the 1TB formatted ext3 connecting to a Linux NAS device (a Seagate dockstar running Debian but a Rasberry Pi running Rasbian would the modern equivalent), and the 500GB drive is what I use as my carry-around device which connects to all my devices for fast large file transfer.
What is your intended use for a 1TB connected to N10?
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thanks mate for this answer
no particular use, maybe just movie playback
the point is that i have 2 1tb drives and i'm stuck not eing able to use them
using a y cable which should be connected to mains is not a solution for portability
would a smaller drive work without y cable ? or just usb sticks ? i did not understand fully
wwwpuntoit said:
thanks mate for this answer
no particular use, maybe just movie playback
the point is that i have 2 1tb drives and i'm stuck not eing able to use them
using a y cable which should be connected to mains is not a solution for portability
would a smaller drive work without y cable ? or just usb sticks ? i did not understand fully
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So what else will these 2 1TB drives connect to? A Windows desktop,a MAC desktop, some kind of NAS....? Because the answer to that determines the filesystem support.So you are connecting it to a Windows desktop, it has to be formatted NTFS, then use Stickmount and its NTFS instructions.
For a Nexus 10 I don't think a Y-cable is needed,begin with the regular OTG cable and cross your fingers they don't need so much power they fail to work.
If it turns out you need more power then you'll have to find a USB powered hub type thing, and for portability get an external USB battery, which in general, is a useful thing to have to charge phone, tablet, etc.
So... buy an OTG cable first, there are threads with "OTG cable known to work".
Format the drive in your chosen host system.e.g connect to the Windows desktop and format it NTFS, copy files to it.
Your N10 should be rooted.
On your N10 install stickmount app from Play, and copy the ntfs-3g to /sdcard as per the app's instructions.
Connect your 1TB drive and cross your fingers. It might not work 1st time, sometimes it is 2nd or 3rd time it is recognized.
Stickmount will mount it, if it all works, showing sda1 type message, go the folder it shows briefly on screen.
If stickmount doesn't show a sda1 type message try again.
If it doesn't work then consider a USB powered hub and find a recommended one, or give up.
You are far more likely to get lower powered device like a USB Flash stick, and FAT for smaller files, to work than 1TB harddrive drive.
I have my 1TB drive connected to the equivalent of a Rasberry Pi on my home router which acts as a NAS, I can access it over the Internet and copy files off it over home Wifi before I leave home. I carry a 500GB drive, because as I said as it happened my 1TB drive didn't work, my 500GB drive did work, its the luck of the milliamps and timing and Stickmount's sensing it.
Begin with buying the $3 OTG cable.
Y-cable, I had mine for my N7 for use of Timur kernel so I could connect to power and use a USB device, in my case a 4G dongle, so I could be online 4G connected for hours. The Y-cable can connect to a USB battery pack for not being tied to mains socket. The same Y-cable happens to solve a problem for my N4 which could not power a USB device. To illustrate this is my 500GB drive connected to USB battery and my N4, the cables are the Y-cable and from Y-cable to battery.
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If you want portability and power, then get the N10 Pogo cable it charges whilst your microsusb socket is kept empty to allow to connect to drives although I've not assembled that combination myself yet, so not sure it will work, by the time you get your OTG cable and tried, I should my N10 and my Pogo cable and speak more authoritatively less theoretically.
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So what else will these 2 1TB drives connect to? A Windows desktop,a MAC desktop, some kind of NAS....? Because the answer to that determines the filesystem support.So you are connecting it to a Windows desktop, it has to be formatted NTFS, then use Stickmount and its NTFS instructions.
For a Nexus 10 I don't think a Y-cable is needed,begin with the regular OTG cable and cross your fingers they don't need so much power they fail to work.
If it turns out you need more power then you'll have to find a USB powered hub type thing, and for portability get an external USB battery, which in general, is a useful thing to have to charge phone, tablet, etc.
So... buy an OTG cable first, there are threads with "OTG cable known to work".
Format the drive in your chosen host system.e.g connect to the Windows desktop and format it NTFS, copy files to it.
Your N10 should be rooted.
On your N10 install stickmount app from Play, and copy the ntfs-3g to /sdcard as per the app's instructions.
Connect your 1TB drive and cross your fingers. It might not work 1st time, sometimes it is 2nd or 3rd time it is recognized.
Stickmount will mount it, if it all works, showing sda1 type message, go the folder it shows briefly on screen.
If stickmount doesn't show a sda1 type message try again.
If it doesn't work then consider a USB powered hub and find a recommended one, or give up.
You are far more likely to get lower powered device like a USB Flash stick, and FAT for smaller files, to work than 1TB harddrive drive.
I have my 1TB drive connected to the equivalent of a Rasberry Pi on my home router which acts as a NAS, I can access it over the Internet and copy files off it over home Wifi before I leave home. I carry a 500GB drive, because as I said as it happened my 1TB drive didn't work, my 500GB drive did work, its the luck of the milliamps and timing and Stickmount's sensing it.
Begin with buying the $3 OTG cable.
Y-cable, I had mine for my N7 for use of Timur kernel so I could connect to power and use a USB device, in my case a 4G dongle, so I could be online 4G connected for hours. The Y-cable can connect to a USB battery pack for not being tied to mains socket. The same Y-cable happens to solve a problem for my N4 which could not power a USB device. To illustrate this is my 500GB drive connected to USB battery and my N4, the cables are the Y-cable and from Y-cable to battery.
If you want portability and power, then get the N10 Pogo cable it charges whilst your microsusb socket is kept empty to allow to connect to drives although I've not assembled that combination myself yet, so not sure it will work, by the time you get your OTG cable and tried, I should my N10 and my Pogo cable and speak more authoritatively less theoretically.
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Ok thanks again
By the way stickmount mounts sda1 ok but folder is shown ad empty and the drive itself makes some ticking noise
wwwpuntoit said:
Ok thanks again
By the way stickmount mounts sda1 ok but folder is shown ad empty and the drive itself makes some ticking noise
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So you had the OTG cable already. Why did you ask then?
Try NTFS checkdisk on Windows because often a Linux kernel won't mount a corrupted NTFS table whilst Windows will mount but nag a little about errors.
I don't use Windows, I run Linux desktop, its sudo ntfsfix command
Are you sure it is formatted NTFS???? You copied ntfs-3g to /sdcard ?
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So you had the OTG cable already. Why did you ask then?
Try NTFS checkdisk on Windows because often a Linux kernel won't mount a corrupted NTFS table whilst Windows will mount but nag a little about errors.
I don't use Windows, I run Linux desktop, its sudo ntfsfix command
Are you sure it is formatted NTFS???? You copied ntfs-3g to /sdcard ?
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I've put these files on che root of my SD, and now the 1tb is mounted properly, after a while though it starts ticking noise...maybe it's a sign it's not a good idea to plug it in because it might noto nave enough power to cicle properly althoug i can access files on it
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I've put these files on che root of my SD, and now the 1tb is mounted properly, after a while though it starts ticking noise...maybe it's a sign it's not a good idea to plug it in because it might noto nave enough power to cicle properly althoug i can access files on it
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So, actually, all you needed to was follow the instructions for Stickmount.
In your context of copying files off, count your blessings, it is working. Enjoy. Connect, copy files off to N10 internal storage, and disconnect.
That ticking is not a necessary sign of a problem, it is going to idle often, but it is actually working. I get that same ticking noise for my 1TB drive connected to my Seagate dockstar and its been running for like a year. I'd not leave it connected to the N10 more than you have to.
nigelhealy said:
So, actually, all you needed to was follow the instructions for Stickmount.
In your context of copying files off, count your blessings, it is working. Enjoy. Connect, copy files off to N10 internal storage, and disconnect.
That ticking is not a necessary sign of a problem, it is going to idle often, but it is actually working. I get that same ticking noise for my 1TB drive connected to my Seagate dockstar and its been running for like a year. I'd not leave it connected to the N10 more than you have to.
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Ok so The idea in the first place was to stream movies from that drive so that might be a little too much asking I guess
wwwpuntoit said:
Ok so The idea in the first place was to stream movies from that drive so that might be a little too much asking I guess
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.... but it does actually do it right? So the answer to the OP is yes?
I have not looked at all the config files of Android but my 500GB drive, which does work, makes a similar clicking noise on my N7 and N4 as does my 1TB on my Raspberry Pi. My Linux (Ubuntu) desktop has a SSD primary and a HDD secondary internal drives and the HDD does have a bit of a "wooshing" noise when active and some clicking. On my Linux desktop when I unplug from mains power it goes into "laptop mode" which is aggressive in turning off and going quiet the HDD.
So I'd not take the noise as a necessary sign of failure / unreliability, I'd take it as a sign of Android's aggressive power management minimizing power going out of USB. If it works.... (it does right?) then just enjoy it, but if only for battery life reasons, you'd consume less power to copy files to your N10 and unplug the external drive and then watch, than to watch directly off the external drive. That is my intention when I travel with my N10 to use with my 500GB drive.
Also, I'd consider reformatting the drive to ext3, as everything Linux is just plain superior to anything Microsoft.it is then natively recognised by Android better than the Stickmount ntfs-3g hack. Or, as a halfway option, format to FAT32, but then the biggest filesize is 4GB. I have files ~5GB in size so I can't use FAT32.
Do you have a Pogo cable? It allows charging without use of the usb socket. If you're seriously thinking about keeping the 1TB connected for long times, consider the Pogo cable option. I've got mine on order and I'll let you know if when the Pogo cable is plugged in, my 500GB drive works.
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.... but it does actually do it right? So the answer to the OP is yes?
I have not looked at all the config files of Android but my 500GB drive, which does work, makes a similar clicking noise on my N7 and N4 as does my 1TB on my Raspberry Pi. My Linux (Ubuntu) desktop has a SSD primary and a HDD secondary internal drives and the HDD does have a bit of a "wooshing" noise when active and some clicking. On my Linux desktop when I unplug from mains power it goes into "laptop mode" which is aggressive in turning off and going quiet the HDD.
So I'd not take the noise as a necessary sign of failure / unreliability, I'd take it as a sign of Android's aggressive power management minimizing power going out of USB. If it works.... (it does right?) then just enjoy it, but if only for battery life reasons, you'd consume less power to copy files to your N10 and unplug the external drive and then watch, than to watch directly off the external drive. That is my intention when I travel with my N10 to use with my 500GB drive.
Also, I'd consider reformatting the drive to ext3, as everything Linux is just plain superior to anything Microsoft.it is then natively recognised by Android better than the Stickmount ntfs-3g hack. Or, as a halfway option, format to FAT32, but then the biggest filesize is 4GB. I have files ~5GB in size so I can't use FAT32.
Do you have a Pogo cable? It allows charging without use of the usb socket. If you're seriously thinking about keeping the 1TB connected for long times, consider the Pogo cable option. I've got mine on order and I'll let you know if when the Pogo cable is plugged in, my 500GB drive works.
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No don't have any cable.. I run Ubuntu at home too but dual boot with win8 since I do require old Microsoft here and there and I would like my drive to be recognised in both os. Don't think ext3 is recognised in Windows, is it.. Anyway thanks for giving me advise
wwwpuntoit said:
No don't have any cable.. I run Ubuntu at home too but dual boot with win8 since I do require old Microsoft here and there and I would like my drive to be recognised in both os. Don't think ext3 is recognised in Windows, is it.. Anyway thanks for giving me advise
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I dual-booted for 20 years, currently running Win VM ontop of Ubuntu, my last attachment to Windoze was Slingplayer, now I tend to run that on my N7 and soon N10.
Ext3 can be recognised by Windows - a lot depends on what is your primary OS. Take a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/ and http://www.ext2fsd.com/
Pick your hack. Based on what you've said, you're done, I'd stick with NTFS as it works stable on Android read-only (your only need), read-write stable on Ubuntu and Windoze.
Right now my 1TB is ext3 on my Dockstar (Rasberry Pi is modern equivalent) and my 500GB is NTFS moving between laptop and Android. My 1TB is my primary file-server, my primary system to save media as it is away from coffee spills, etc. If I had two 1TB drives, I'd run them as RAID 1 mirror on a NAS just for data integrity and carry a smaller power-efficient harddrive around for media streaming on-the-go which I plug into the NAS/laptop/Android as needed to move large files around. Backup, backup, backup!
Hey guys, I got the nexus player yesterday and I've been seeing mixed results for what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm simply trying to view movies off of a USB flash drive using an OTG cable on a non-rooted Nexus Player. Is this possible? I've sideloaded ES File Explorer and I can see the USB Flash Drive listed under the 'Local' panel of ESFE. When I click on the Flash Drive nothing happens. There is also a eject icon directly beside the text of the USB Flash Drive. I've tried 3 different flash drives 8gb, 16gb, 32gb, and formatted as exFAT, FAT32, and NTFS.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance!
I'm having the exactly the same problem.
I just saw a video that claimed that you cannot click on the USB using the nexus player remote. You will need to use a mouse to select the USB drive in ESFE. I haven't been able to test this as I do not currently have a USB hub. I'm ordering one today and I will report back if it works.
So my powered USB hub arrived today and using the mouse to click on the flash drive worked!
I also discovered that you can add the USB to the favourites menu on ES File Explorer to get around the mouse requirement. If your USB shows up as usb2006 or 2007 or whatever, simply add usb://200x as a favourite folder. This will allow you to bypass the requirement of using your mouse. The only negative is that the USB number seems to change every time it's re-plugged in. I got around this by making favourites for usb://2006, usb://2007, etc..
I have it working right now as a FAT32... But I can't to see what file systems are supported. It would see it with ExFAT, but nothing would work. FAT32 works, but has obvious limitations. Does NTFS work? Has anyone tries Ext4?
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I connected a USB hub to my NP so I was able to use my NTFS formatted external drive and my mouse at the same time. I found my video files on HDD by ESFE but there is no any media player app that plays 1080p MKV movies correctly. I tried ESFE's media player, V Player, MX Player... unsuccessfully.
Playback was always laggy and audio problems occured pretty often.
Does anyone know a good option/app for that?
I can't post links but search for the kodi android app and sideload that apk. It works flawlessly.
Download VLC to play movies when you use a external drive or save them to the NP. That's what I do and it works great.