Over on engadget, link here ----> http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/11/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-for-atandt-ratted-out-by-its-own-hdmi-dock/
What jumps out at me is the standard four across cap buttons instead of the hard home flanked by a cap.
phone actually looks liike an infuse.
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The power button seems too high up the right side and surely the would keep the home button?
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phone actually looks liike an infuse.
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I can see them screwing with the menu buttons but it would be difficult and needless to move the power switch.
They did exactly that with the captivate guys.
I prefer my "original" S2
I would have prefered the four caps in a line but who knows what AT&T will do with it software wise. At any rate I used the word possible for a reason, until hard confirmation this is just somewhat more than rumour but less than fact. I don't see the buttons as proving or disproving anything. AT&T did move the power on the captivate and go to a standard four across as well as the body changes they made so certainly that would imply they might do the same with the S2. In my mind since all the carriers are supposed to be staying closer to form and can utillize the same cases and so on that might make the power harder to move? Not sure on that one.
Apparantly it's called the Samsung Attain and is the American AT&T variant on the SG2.
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I am so glad I purchased the international version if thats what its going to look like. I prefer the hard home button of 9000 over Captivate just as I do on the i9100 over that thing (if that is going to be what the Attain looks like)
The Captivate was a variant of the i9000 and it too had a power button much higher up than i9000 did.
Capacitive touch buttons? I think I prefer my physical home button.
It looks like the lock button is slightly higher placed than the i9100 international version too.
Sorry, but I agree with the others who have said it's an Infuse. There's no way that AT&T is going to release two identical looking phones that close to each other. Even down to the chrome buttons and location of the power button. Nah, I just think the website lost something in translation.
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Sorry, but I agree with the others who have said it's an Infuse. There's no way that AT&T is going to release two identical looking phones that close to each other. E
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Really true..!! , btw I guess the attain would have capacitive butttons..
... but I still prefer the i9100
I personally prefer the aesthetics of the pictured phone. When I first saw the Infuse, I actually wondered why they didn't use that design for the GS2. Looks they did. Have to say, this makes me want the Attain.
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Sorry, but I agree with the others who have said it's an Infuse. There's no way that AT&T is going to release two identical looking phones that close to each other. Even down to the chrome buttons and location of the power button. Nah, I just think the website lost something in translation.
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As to the former, maybe, maybe not. As to the latter are you seriously implying that AT&T wouldn't do something that people like us would consider stupid? Keep in mind that all of the US carriers are keeping the physical shape close enough that they can all use the same cases as already reported. That would imply that it is going to look much like our own phones do now in regards to its shape which closely resembles the infuse. IMO while this may or may not be true no one has posted anything which carries much weight one way or the other in regards to debunking it or proving it out.
An eagle-eyed commenter on Engadget notes that it's two different phones pictured. You can see the power button icon is located in a different place in the first and second pics. And, if you scroll all the way through the Facebook pics, you'll see the SGS2 pictured with the hardware button still intact.
So, mystery solved. It's an Infuse in the first pic, and an Attain/SGS2 in the rest.
Actually, if you look at the Facebook page, there's two different docks. The second one has a SGS2 in it and matches the pictures of the dock that's being sold at Clove because it has volume buttons.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150287680707625.375373.201671497624
http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-i9100-desktop-dock
The pic Engadget posted is both a different phone and different dock which doesn't make sense if all the SGS2 variants are supposed to share accessories.
Good lord, here's a pic of the Infuse dock on the AT&T site. It's just like the one Engadget posted. Who knows, maybe the Infuse in the picture was a prototype which is why the power icon's in a different place. You can all go home, nothing to see here.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...0306&q_categoryid=cat1370029#fbid=XaTNFNCAU9M
The USA version of the SGS2 is indeed much better looking without that awkward button in the middle. These Koreans have no sense of aesthetics...
You know what I find interesting, neither of the pictured phones in either dock on the facebook page matches the infuse picture on AT&Ts site. Not sure what to make of that. lol Now I'm really wondering about the authenticity since neither is the infuse and only one can be the attain but two different handsets are shown. It kinda makes the whole thing suspect in my mind.
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But Samsung didn't think this is enough so they threw a gyrscope inside just like the one in iPhone 4
In addition, the Samsung Captivate is designed with a six-axis sensor that combines the smartphone's accelerometer and gyroscope to provide a smooth, fluid gaming experience
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I much prefer the i9000
Meh who needs a gyroscope anyways?
Hah would be funny to find that people outside the USA prefer that design and the Americans preferring the international version.
Theme appears less iphoney
Looks like an old Palm device I threw away 5 years ago.
I may end up with it, but based on that picture, I don't think its attractive at all.
If the I90000 looks iPhonish, who cares? It looks better than this.
That won't stop me from buying it. Depending on the issues around locking down apps to just the Market, and what Verizon ends up with from the Galaxy...that will determine which one I end up with.
Unless someone can convince me there is a good reason to stay on AT&T over Verizon, based on the carrier technology, not the complaints about AT&T's lousy coverage. Their coverage is great where I would need it. (At least now it is).
i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
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i prefer the i9000
the american version looks like a blackberry ...
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I think I prefer the EU version as well - it might be because I've just gotten used to the looks of it already. To me the US version reminds me of the Touch HD which is a phone I absolutely hated.
It depends on the dimensions and whether it has a flash - neither of which are stated.
Like I said in the other thread, there's no way AT&T would allow another phone closely resemble the iPhone AND have specs to directly compete with it and possibly blow it out of the water. Hence the removal of the front camera, possible gimping, and changing the looks.
It reminds me of this ..
I prefer the 3 button setup with hardware home key in the middle. First, it can be used to unlock, no need to fiddle with your thumb on the side. Second, it helps using the other two keys without looking.
Who really needs a search key anyway? And if you need it, just hold the menu key a little longer, and there you are.
we should have had a poll. like the att version alot. curious if the tmobile one is gonna be redesigned, especially since the sprint one also has four buttons up front.
Not to mention the hardware keyboard
No-one else thinks that it looks exactly like the Looks Xperia X10?...
fork! Annoying that I can't post images/urls. I wanna put the first image next to this one img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/XperiaX10_450x550.jpg
Looks a lot nicer than the standard version to me (and I'm not in the US!). The standard one looks like it's trying too hard to ape the iPhone, and not the new one either.
The AT&T site shows the back, which does not have a flash:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/samsung-captivate.jsp
I'd definitely prefer this one - 16GB Flash (Vodafone exclusive in the UK) and a gyroscope, with better styling. It might not have a front camera, but it doesn't have a chocolate teapot attachment either and I care about the same amount for both of those features. (Well, to be fair, I could eat the chocolate - that would serve more of a purpose.) I've had phones with front-facing cameras for three years and have never made or received a video call over 3G, or had any desire to do so.
this doesn't look hot. i like the 9000 better
looks like a mini dell mini5 streak
pun intended
Biggest question for me, since both of them have slight variance in hardware like no front-camera and gyroscope, will a single rom cooked for 1 version work for both versions?
Because thats huge. It would fragment the Euro and USA rom cookers.
US Version looks way better and it has all 4 capacitive buttons, which would make running custom software a little easier. Booo @ removing the front facing camera.
BGR has a new post that has photos of what they believe to be the AT&T version of Galaxy S II with a slide out keyboard. It also includes a couple of benchmarks; Linkpack and Quadrant. I can't believe that AT&T would do this... looks like I'm not getting the AT&T version...
http://www.bgr.com/2011/07/26/exclusive-images-of-atts-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-revealed/
oh my GOD thats ugly!! good thing i live in the UK, no carriers changing my device
Looks really ugly, it will just add to phone's thickness.. and even the camera looks weird in those photos!
Electricpig notes that the Linpack benchmark is about 18.6% higher than an unlocked Galaxy S II (58.544 MFLOPS vs 47.606 MFLOPS)... leading them to suspect that they bumped the CPU from 1.2 to 1.4. However, Quadrant doesn't seem to show much improvement (3056) but then again, Quadrant isn't the most consistent benchmark.
http://electricpig.co.uk/2011/07/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-slider-photographed-benchmarked-and-ready-for-prime-time/
is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?
If Sprint also drastically changes the design then they have lost my purchase.
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is it just me or does the phone seem smaller than a international gs2 across the front of the screen? did they drop it down to 4"?
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Corporate users love keyboards. They are also a prime target for LTE. Going this route kind of makes sense if this is their first LTE phone launched. I'm glad I got the unbasterdized version. Remember, the Z/R got FCC approval on AT&T's bands too. Maybe they'll carry that one also as their more consumer oriented version.
i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.
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i'm not convinced this is att's official (or only) sgs2. the layout is completely different: camera placement, bottom physical button for instance.
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Does this...
Or this...
Look like this...
SGH-i897 is the model number for AT&T's SGS1 so the model number for whatever phone's in the first post uses the same naming convention. Last round, Sprint got the keyboard. This time it looks like it'll go to AT&T.
damn, you're right. our only hope is this is not AT&T's version.
My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.
Thank goodness I got the unmolested version of this device. Leave it to US carriers to take something amazing then ruin it.
The horror.. The horror...
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My biggest concern is that AT&T will screw with it so much that we'll need special developers for it. I think I would lose my mind if I went to flash a super duper kernel and it blew up in my hands.
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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.
I just got really dissapointed really quickly. Im fine with having four buttons but the slide out keyboard is almost the point of being useless
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Even if they left the majority of the phone as-is, you'll never be able to flash international ROMs due to the different radio(s). I'm sure devs working on it will be able to re-use a lot of what's already been developed but the phone will be too different to share s/w with other versions.
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that is entirely untrue...
The captivate for ATT can use international sgs 1 roms with a kernal that rotates the screen correctly the only difference is that the FM radio didn't work on the captivate as there was no FM radio.
ATT world phones use the same international frequencies as international phones. i currently have an internationall sgs2 and am using it with att with 4g.
keyboard not for me.... Good that I got the international sgs2
Also the Samsung galaxy R kinda looks nice and solid, even though lower specs and slightly thicker.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. Its like they didn't want to release a phone thinner than the iPhone and maybe this even dissolves them of being liable and possibly being sued for selling it as-is. I'm not trying to be a fandroid or anything but I can't help think the ongoing legal battles between samsung and Apple somehow effected the outcome ... disenchanted ... but still optimistic ... would be nice to get new dimensions and weight of this bastardizes phone.
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Big plus is that it's alegedly equipped to access Att LTE.
This data connection really has me teetering on selling it.
Looking at pictures, I see above the transparent strip there are some dots and then the screen starts. Can someone who's seen this phone outside tell if the bottom bezel feels too wide. This can make it very uncomfortable for the thumb as it has to stretch all the time to even get to most used apps on launcher.
It could get even worse with ICS update as ICS wastes another small strip of the bottom screen for the soft buttons plus getting to the top of the screen will get even harder if bezel is wider at the bottom. Already, ICS stock browser sucks as you have to stretch your fingers couple of time to just hit refresh page.
One thing that p**#@#* me off about most android phones is all manufacturers stopped thinking about the ergonomics of design. One of the main reason I love Arc is how short the bezel is at the bottom making the phone very comfortable on thumb.
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I actually find Arc's bottom bezel too narrow. I keep archiving Gmail messages accidentally!!
That's personal preference of course.
So, my suggestion is, calm down, and wait for the phone to be released, head to a local shop that has it demonstrated and hold it yourself to see if it suits you. Also, SE will probably not use the on-screen buttons since their devices have physical buttons.
Last but not least, there are already a few threads here regarding the 2012 devices, so you should have posted your concern there and not start yet another thread.
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I actually find Arc's bottom bezel too narrow. I keep archiving Gmail messages accidentally!!
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I have this problem too. So, some width would have been great.
So, my suggestion is, calm down, and wait for the phone to be released, head to a local shop that has it demonstrated and hold it yourself to see if it suits you.
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By the time my local Sony store gets this phone, it will probably lose lot of craze with early adapters like me who are thinking to get it from Europe or Japan.
Also, SE will probably not use the on-screen buttons since their devices have physical buttons.
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I am really hoping for this. I hate seeing a lovely screen wasted when phone already has capacitive buttons.
Last but not least, there are already a few threads here regarding the 2012 devices, so you should have posted your concern there and not start yet another thread.
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Everyone has their opinions but I thought this might need it's own thread to get Sony attention. Who knows they might now seriously think about not having the soft ICS buttons after reading your post.
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I have this problem too. So, some width would have been great.
By the time my local Sony store gets this phone, it will probably lose lot of craze with early adapters like me who are thinking to get it from Europe or Japan.
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If you are already pissed at its design, buying it before even seeing it, is not a wise move imho.
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I am really hoping for this. I hate seeing a lovely screen wasted when phone already has capacitive buttons.
Everyone has their opinions but I thought this might need it's own thread to get Sony attention. Who knows they might now seriously think about not having the soft ICS buttons after reading your post.
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The alpha ICS ROM that SE published here doesn't include on-screen buttons. So I am pretty sure that this will be the case for the final version too.
Also events if SE decides to read through xda forums for feedback, it would still be better if it were to be found in one place instead of numerous threads.
And that's more of a practical issue than an opinion.
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Even I felt the bottom bessel looks kinda wide in xperia s ( if the portion above that transparent bar was all screen , it would have been nice ) .
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Well, been using my GS3 for about 4 days now and I must say that I am somewhat underwhelmed by it so far. The jump between my EVO to the Epic 4G Touch was much greater than that from the E4GT to the GS3 (as expected). However, there are 3 gripes that I just bothering me more than I initially thought they would:
1. Camera - The Epic 4G Touch's picture quality is light-years ahead than that of the GS3. This is really unacceptable for a flagship device. Sure, the shutter speed is quite fast, but the quality is just not there. Part of the reason I skipped over the Galaxy Nexus was the camera inferiority to the E4GT and here I am with the GS3. The HTC EVO LTE at the store seemed to take amazing pictures. Haven't compared them side-by-side, but I feel I'll be more disappointed if I do.
2. The power button - I don't see a lot of people complaining about this, but I'm having a difficult time adjusting to the power button. The curved bezel in conjunction with the flushness of the button makes it hard to find/press it most of the time. Even though it feels quite clickable, it takes some digging around every time I need to use it. I'm hoping that the Slim Case I ordered will help with this as the cutouts will guide me better. It's a small gripe, I know, but it's enough to annoy me.
3. Speed - I know that this phone will smoke most of the competition, including the E4GT, but I'm not really blown-away by it. Once the apps are opened (which I admit to being quite fast), it seems to take longer for the information to download and appear (Play Store, Facebook, etc). I don't know if it's the connection or the phone itself. Never had this issue with the previous phone.
That's about it really. I know it's nothing major, but it's enough to taint my experiences. I'll give it another week before I decide what to do with it. But I'm really leaning towards the HTC EVO LTE (even though I find it hideous) or just going with a Galaxy Nexus (and not have to worry about future upgrades, etc).
Sorry about the rant... just had to let it out.
Speed -
You don't feel smoothness , and fast information because android
The problem is not the device , its the software
Android is still "buggy" , i have Asus Prime Tegra 3 -and i dont feel smoothness
Maybe next android version will be more smoother and faster
Just return it and stop complaining
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The power button on mine is not quite right too, it is less flushed against the bezel compared to the volume rocker and creaks at the touch, it also feels spongy when pushed. That's not enough to slate the phone though because I know the capabilities of this beast hence I'm waiting for my exchange. If yours is the same ill advise you to do the same.
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You're using the Sprint version right? If so, why are you posting in the international GT-I9300 forum?
Plus, it's already been quoted in several reviews that the US versions have a slight lag during usage that the international version does not. Just return the phone and move on.
@Stea1thmode: Thanks bud! Will do!
@everyone else: Take your meds and learn to deal with criticism.
This phone was really smooth for me. Bur my major problem is not being able to get into download mode.
The screen is also mediocre. =/ Wondering if I should have bought LG Optimus 4x instead, I only picked this phone for the custom firmwares..
There's nothing worse than having an S3 on Sprint. It's bad enough that you have to deal with the inferior CPU, but also the non-existent LTE network that is set to debut sometime between now and when hell freezes over.
why do US variant owners come to the international section to B!TCH and complain?????
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why do US variant owners come to the international section to B!TCH and complain?????
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Because we can.
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@everyone else: Take your meds and learn to deal with criticism.
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Criticism would be if you told Samsung that some things could be better. You're just complaining about a phone that doesn't live up to your standards.
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Because we can.
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O, we have an internet macho man here .... tough guy eh?
Closed, because you posted this in the wrong forum for a start, and because its a stupid thread.
Samsung has unveiled a new variant of the S-Pen, which comes bundled with all Note devices, called the BT S-Pen (BT standing for Bluetooth). It is, as far as I am aware, a regular S-Pen (albeit much larger for greater comfort) that connects to your Note device via Bluetooth and allows you to utilise it as a wireless-headset of sorts. Although bundled with pre-release test units of the Note 10.1 for journalists at their press conference, it simply utilises the regular technology of our Note 5.3 devices' S-Pens with Bluetooth to enable it to make and receive calls (meaning that it should work on the Note GT-N7000). Since one of the major complaints of the Note is the embarrassment of holding it up to your ear to make a phone call, I think this S-Pen is a fantastic accessory for the Note series. It can be charged via a Micro-USB port connected to the Note devices and apparently has 130 hours of standby time or 3 hours of talk time (not the best, but if you are like me and don't make too many calls that isn't a problem). Having been wanting a larger S-Pen to use around the house (the small one is fine out and about, but at home something larger would undeniably be more comfortable), this seems perfect. I shall be shelling out the cash for one as soon as it is available here in the UK, unless it is ridiculously priced. Who else likes the look of this?
Read the article here!
Link?
Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.
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Completely off-topic, but am I the only one finding the Note's community drastically dwindling? This is such a shame as, despite not having the best specification around in terms of raw power, the Note is still a very capable device and I think there are untapped opportunities for applications that would be useful when out of the house (hence, no good for a tablet which often are more reserved to home use and not a general pop to the store) but would not work on a regular phone's screen. In a way, I wish Samsung wasn't unveiling a Note 2 in a matter of days in Berlin. Since I am on contract and won't be able to upgrade till over a year, it's a shame to see the community here dwindling - and things will only be worse once the Note 2 is released.
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I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.
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I added one to an article. It also includes a video of it being demoed on the AT&T 4G version of the Galaxy Note.
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I don't think the community is dwindling. Jellybean development is doing awesome, its just young.
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Hopefully so. Since the S2 is apparently getting Jelly Bean, there is almost a definitive chance the Note will get Jelly Bean also! Let's just hope that Samsung finally fix the brick bug, which is a great cripple towards ROM development, eh?
Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.
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Okay, so this is pretty cool. But I think it is suppose to be MORE for the Note 10.1 than the phone Note because it's huge, that wouldn't be comfortable or practical at all for our phone.
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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.
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It isn't that large and, for home use at least, it is still useful.
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Maybe for some people....but I won't be buying it.
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pretty cool.. hope it comes as a part of note 2...
Weird. I think I would rather be seen talking into a slightly large phone than a pen.
I don't know how practical the Bluetooth pen will be. If your talking to someone with the pen, it's going to be very hard to use it to take notes or whatever.
And one handed operation on the note 5" our 10.1" wrote holding the pen to your ear is going to be impossible to do.
I guess it's only practical if you don't want to pull out the note from your pocket.
I still think head sets or earpiece are the way to go for hands free talking
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sounds cool, but does anyone actually use the s=pen that comes with the phone ? when i was using my note as my full time phone ( dont really use it anymore ) i think i used the pen for the first 2 days and haven't pulled it out in at least 6 months