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Im not complaining just wondering
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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intruda119 said:
After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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The endless cries for help from noobs and/or people lacking common sense drove them away?
Lack of 2.2 source.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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stop being a jerk.
s15274n said:
I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
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Well, i'm currently good for this as well, but look at it, the only devs that people know for vibrants are: Eugene, Master, TW thats pretty much it i think?
TW is probably a bunch of people, master, he seems to be working alone currently, and Eugene is probably working with barak or something.
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Lack of 2.2 source.
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^ this
blame samsung
Yea since 2.1 is over with we just need 2.2 not the leaks
I love development as well im on axura I just noticed
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Lack of 2.2 source.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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And btw where is Eugene? He hasnt teleased anything in a while...
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If I'm not mistaken that 10 million number is the whole Galaxy S line. 3 of the phones in that line have had very little, if any, in the way of leaked software thereby putting the need for anything new at a stand still. The majority of the 10 million sold have been I9000 which has seen plenty of development. As for the Vibrant I count 4 active Dev teams that are major players here, Eugene, Team Whiskey, Master, Heathen. Then you have a couple others releasing random items. To my recollection there has been a new rom or update to existing roms every single week. I'm not sure what else you would want maybe a new rom to flash daily? One of those devs has stop posting here but those that like his work have given us all the updated info. All of the Devs with the exception of Heathen have slowed down a bit for various reason known only to them but I'd speculate 3 possible reasons. 1. Holidays man people want to relax a little. 2. Nothing new to work with in a few weeks and the last 3 or 4 leaks have just been tweaks to 2.2. And finally C. with 2.3 on the horizon I'm sure some of the devs are busy finding a way to bring us all a stable/working version.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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Not exactly true. I mean I understand the sentiment. But it only goes up to a point. I thoroughly expect either an official 2.3 release sometime this year, or at least a stable 2.3 port from the Nexus considering it's pretty much the same exact phone. But after that, I'm not expecting much considering the handset with be EOL by then.
I was a former G1 owner, and I think it was great that we were able to get an official build of 1.6, and even though CM worked pretty well on it (at least the Eclair versions), you can't really expect that it would run Froyo well.
Bottom line, I think if every handset was updated within the first 1.5 years of it's life, people would be satisfied and there would be a lot less frustration about lack of support with Android in general.
It seems like we're at a cross-road with our devices. Recent issues clearly have lead to unexpected circumstances, yet we're on the horizon of Gingerbread. Though ACS was huge and there were lots of expectations for ING, clearly a different direction is at hand if you jumped on that train. (Please correct me if I'm wrong to members of both organizations, I think many would welcome continuity, if possible.) Many, like myself, don't have an upgrade at hand or a couple hundred to shell out for a new phone and thus still depend on the community. What are some of the plans that people have for the future, devs and users alike? Having recently rooted and flashed SRF, I am not as aware of functionality of all availible platforms and figure I'm not alone.
I wouldn't mind if this becomes a consolidation thread for multiple threads of the same concept.
I figure its not a big deal. Remember, tomorrow is the beginning of the rapture, so no matter what we all only have until October 21 to live. I figure the Epic4g can last me until then fairly well, even if I have to stick with SRF 1.1.
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I figure its not a big deal. Remember, tomorrow is the beginning of the rapture, so no matter what we all only have until October 21 to live. I figure the Epic4g can last me until then fairly well, even if I have to stick with SRF 1.1.
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EL OH EL
Literally
The Bonsai wave is about to wash away the sins of our brethren and bring serenity to the faithful.
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I've been out of the woodwork for the last few week due to work and etc..what happened? (I see K0nane is leaving, but what about ACS as a group? They disbanded?)
And whats ING? I am guessing its not ING banking...:/
As for next thing to look forward to...CM7
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I figure its not a big deal. Remember, tomorrow is the beginning of the rapture, so no matter what we all only have until October 21 to live.
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Lol that dude is retarded. "No man knows the date of the rapture" extreme paraphrase from a verse in revelations.
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The Bonsai wave is about to wash away the sins of our brethren and bring serenity to the faithful.
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What's the deal with Bonsai? How good is it? I'm guessing they'll have a GB rom fast with no CIQ.
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I'm betting on the chicken. The egg can go suck it.
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Lol that dude is retarted. "No man knows the date of the rapture" extreme paraphrase from a verse in revelations.
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What's retarted......
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What's the deal with Bonsai? How good is it? I'm guessing they'll have a GB rom fast with no CIQ.
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rob and his midnight romness already has a rom for ee03 and it rocks... running it right now.
Back before the Bonsai team left XDA to make their own site, they made one of the best ROMs. I remember I was torn between Bonsai and Quantum ROMs. Then Bonsai did their thing and Dameon started with CM7.
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What's retarted......
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The whole "the beginning of the end is 5/21/11" thing.
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I think he meant whats "retarted" since you probably meant retarded...
Maybe a CM7 fully done and/or a true AOSP for our Epic?
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Maybe a CM7 fully done and/or a true AOSP for our Epic?
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Once CM7 is complete is it pretty much a fully supported OS? I know the Epic needs to "prove itself," apparently.
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Once CM7 is complete is it pretty much a fully supported OS? I know the Epic needs to "prove itself," apparently.
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I believe it would need the full blessing of the CM Team and get official support. But seeing that some of the other Galaxy S variants have received official support, we're not much farther behind.
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I think he meant whats "retarted" since you probably meant retarded...
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Oh lol I didn't notice
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This device was screwed from the start... neither sprint or Samsung gave a POS about us...
The future of these forums i see Bonsai Team leading the ROM's until CM7 is out 1000%
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This device was screwed from the start... neither sprint or Samsung gave a POS about us...
The future of these forums i see Bonsai Team leading the ROM's until CM7 is out 1000%
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That has never stopped a piece of electronics from coming to age late. I wonder if this whole race to GB is their way of realizing the hardware capabilities of Samsung versus the number of eligible customers that will convert to a superior device. Remember, this forum is for those on the cutting edge of the device. Some will continue to buy this device based on the fact that they won't have to live through initial release bugs and then join us. Lots of the gruntwork was thankfully done by k0nane before his departure (thanks k0nane!) but it doesn't mean that we have seen our best Moments, to those making that reference.
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That has never stopped a piece of electronics from coming to age late. I wonder if this whole race to GB is their way of realizing the hardware capabilities of Samsung versus the number of eligible customers that will convert to a superior device. Remember, this forum is for those on the cutting edge of the device. Some will continue to buy this device based on the fact that they won't have to live through initial release bugs and then join us. Lots of the gruntwork was thankfully done by k0nane before his departure (thanks k0nane!) but it doesn't mean that we have seen our best Moments, to those making that reference.
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Yea true we haven't touched what this bad boy is capable of software is so late right now....
but after the E3D what do you see sprint releasing that is upgrade worthy except for a Sammy GS2 variant.....
ill never give those pathetic bastards my $$ again.
So i'd like to get the E3D on release to be a part of it ....IDK
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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Nah, it's your imagination since it was already pretty dumpy.
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Top Nurse said:
Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.
I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.
I'd much rather read noobnl posts/threads than sift through more and more threads on devices like the Evo/Evo 3D/etc which have nothing to do with the Epic and don't even belong here in the first place, or people griping about how the Epic is undersupported and 'woe iz us' and proudly boasting which manufacturer/device they're moving to because of it and why and all such blather as that as if everyone both wants and deserves to read it.
At the very least noobnl's threads and the reactions within them have some semblance of entertainment value usually.
This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.
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This is a great phone and there are a ton of fun and interesting things to do with it. I guess I'm just not jaded enough because I don't buy the newest latest 3x a year for full price. No offense to those who do, but the Epic for me at least has plenty of life left in it.
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Yep, I agree. I'm not updating until quad core comes out. Dual core is cool, but the main feature of this phone is the gpu, which is just as good as anything coming out for thre rest of the year.
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digiblur said:
I don't see anything about the Epic anymore in the Epic forum. It's all about the SGSII, Evo3D, I'm leaving...wahhhhhhh..cry me a river please, give me lunch money back, etc.
Would be nice to see stuff about the Epic again in the EPIC forums.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
kennyglass123 said:
You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
Do you BONSAI?
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Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop
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Yah, I think a lot of the slowdown is the wait for the official GB to drop
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Ofcourse, I know 2 devs right now that have held off from even creating for FROYO because they knew GB was close.
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You will as soon as official Gingerbread drops and the ROMs fly.
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theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.
I just want more epic'ness. Its called the epic for damn sakes! Where's our Epic'ness! The glory to uphold the that name!
Our communitys taken several epic movements lately.. =/
Marcusant if u read this, make a quick "how to" compilation of all the learn to dev tuts. I'm sure it might motivate some in our community =) id do it but my theads are always sloppy.
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austin420 said:
theyve said that before froyo too and i didnt see much of a diff after it dropped either. its not froyo, gb or anything else holding us up.
i think we all know what it is.
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Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?
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Really? Really? The threads were full of Epic only talk, differences between DK28, EB13 and EC05, easiest path to their favorite ROM, help I sponged my phone, how do use Odin, GPS fix this GPS fix that...he said talk was all about the next phone, which simply means devs are waiting for GB source code.
Do you BONSAI?
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I quote you by quoting myself
Shoulon said:
It's alrite, besides this entire community's progress is at a standstill. Everyone's waiting for samsprint to release their damn Gingerbread.
gb = alot of new work and releases =)
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i think we all know what it is.
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Although my setup varies from yours, I have to agree.
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It did actually but I was impressed at his apology for creating the drama. That takes a lot.
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Even his apology was self congratulatory..
CM7, MIUI, AOSP and HTC Sense 3.0.
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A limited amount of items left to fix?
Outside of TV out, I am not really sure what there is left to improve on my Epic
The ROM fast and stable, battery life lasts all day, my signal and call quality are great, I couldn't be happier with my theme, tethering works with 4G... whats left?
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Putting Cyongenmod 7, MIUI, AOSP, HTC Sense 3.0 and Touch wiz 4.0 on this phone for starters. So we can assure long term development on our devices.
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Is it just my imagination or did the Epic 4G General forum just take a major dump since Noobnl started posting again?
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No offence, but what is the point of this? To rag on a member? I have not been here long, or post often, but if you are saying the Epic forum is going to **** due to threads like Noobnl's, then what is this thread for?
Threads like this are why, counter productive and flamebait.. noobnl whether you like him or not, even if you think he stole everything he ever released, he still contributed more than 3/4s of the people talking ****..
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Please do not turn this into a teen-aged girl whinefest. Here is a current list of phones and possibles to get ICS.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
If you want ICS please go buy a Nexus S or something. Don't whine about this old phone not being supported (yet) because of the stupid imbedded Touchwiz. Now you know better what to look for in your next phone so turn this into a learning experience.
And more qualified opinion articles here:
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-ice-cream-sandwich
http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?t=219272
http://thegadgetfan.com/mobile-smar...etting-android-ice-cream-sandwich-update.html
http://androidadvices.com/list-phones-ice-cream-sandwich-update/
Agreed.. Next time I'll sure go nexus.. Thanks for the list!
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Please do not turn this into a teen-aged girl whinefest. Here is a current list of phones and possibles to get ICS.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...ist-which-phones-will-get-ice-cream-sandwich/
If you want ICS please go buy a Nexus S or something. Don't whine about this old phone not being supported (yet) because of the stupid imbedded Touchwiz. Now you know better what to look for in your next phone so turn this into a learning experience.
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I learned my lesson. I will never make that mistake again. I will always wait for the nexus galaxy phone.
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I learned my lesson. I will never make that mistake again. I will always wait for the nexus phone.
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Exactly...look at this as a lesson learned even though this is still a kick ass phone and there are plenty of users happy with the stock froyo out there....btw which iphone has Flash?
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For sure
Next time its either HTC or MOTO for me. **** Samsung's customer service and there run around statements. But that damn epic touch sure shots some bad ass 1080p compared to the Evo 3d, and iphone 4s. And thanks for the post +1.
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Next time its either HTC or MOTO for me. **** Samsung's customer service and there run around statements. But that damn epic touch sure shots some bad ass 1080p compared to the Evo 3d, and iphone 4s. And thanks for the post +1.
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Been reading a lot of complaints about HTC's GB upgrades. They sound buggier than our leaks so you may want to research that. And yes Samsung makes some damn good hardware. Just go for pure Google phone.
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I heard that! I don't think I'll ever buy an android that's not a nexus ever again. If I'm paying 250$+ for a phone and no yearly upgrades than I want two full years of support!
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That whole "article" is just some blogger's opinions. No substance whatsoever.
CapsLockKey said:
That whole "article" is just some blogger's opinions. No substance whatsoever.
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There is A confirmed line from Samsung regarding the Galaxy S II. The phones that don't yet have confirmations he offers his opinions and updates if and when manufacturer confirmations are given. It seemed knowledgeable and informative to me. If I find some better articles and lists I will update the OP.
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Agreed, no whining. Plus, there is already an ICS port in the works for this phone, not very functional yet but impressive none the less.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330503
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Agreed, no whining. Plus, there is already an ICS port in the works for this phone, not very functional yet but impressive none the less.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330503
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Not to mention it's an sdk port
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I'm like a 50's house wife no matter how bad my husband treats im with him to death .
that being said i cant seem to see my life with out a Samsung/made device. even do i still don't get gb or anything good and if i do it takes time before i get. but i just in love with Samsung
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Agreed, no whining. Plus, there is already an ICS port in the works for this phone, not very functional yet but impressive none the less.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330503
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Thanks Poit. We have no doubts in our great DEVs that they will get us ICS regardless of Samsung. I remember the WEBOS multitasker swipe was pretty cool on my Pre and it looks like that is in ICS.
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ivcesar said:
I'm like a 50's house wife no matter how bad my husband treats im with him to death .
that being said i cant seem to see my life with out a Samsung/made device. even do i still don't get gb or anything good and if i do it takes time before i get. but i just in love with Samsung
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That is funny because I swore no more Samsung products after their crappy bluetooth ear hook snapped and going through the Rant and Instinct...yet here I am. But if not for the keyboard I would be on an EVO right now. Those were the only 2 choices last September.
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No Whining: Current list of phones getting ICS and possibles
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F*ck you samsung and not giving us ice cream sandwich,
Whine* Whine* Whine* Whine* Whine*
F*cking Bull!!!!
Whine* Whine* Whine*
Take that kenny!!!
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOL
I say never buy a product expecting future updates, but one that works when you buy it. If it gets updates, candy for me.
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poit said:
Plus, there is already an ICS port in the works for this phone, not very functional yet but impressive none the less.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330503
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Are you going to personally ensure and promise it gets completed???
No??? GO SIT IN THE CORNER!
This thread is not about our phone "potentially" seeing ICS. Its about what phones will see ICS. Period. Official ICS.
Our phone doesn't even have GB. CM7 is not complete, all due respect to D3cad3nce. It's people like you that constantly ask for ETAs to the devs, shifting your blame from Samsung to the Devs.
This is a very useful post, because my g/f is getting a new phone, and I haven't seen a single phone that's guaranteed to get ICS other than the Nexus. Photon 4g, ET4G, the brand new HTC Evo Design 4g, LG Marquee. Not one is announced to get ICS. Don't mention the GSII promise, because Samsung made a GS promise and we don't have GB. Fool me once.... fool me twice....
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F*ck you samsung and not giving us ice cream sandwich,
Whine* Whine* Whine* Whine* Whine*
F*cking Bull!!!!
Whine* Whine* Whine*
Take that kenny!!!
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LOL
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Nice to hear from you too David....LOL.
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jnadke said:
Are you going to personally ensure and promise it gets completed???
No??? GO SIT IN THE CORNER!
This thread is not about our phone "potentially" seeing ICS. Its about what phones will see ICS. Period. Official ICS.
Our phone doesn't even have GB. CM7 is not complete, all due respect to D3cad3nce. It's people like you that constantly ask for ETAs to the devs, shifting your blame from Samsung to the Devs.
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Duuuuuuuddde....Decaf!
LOL.
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Nice to hear from you too David....LOL.
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Thought u might like that
Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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Gavisann said:
They can't just remove TW and give us ICS. Just wait for CM9.
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*won't
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I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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Cm7 does not have any TW.
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rootxda said:
Now dont get this wrong, but didnt a developer go to Samsung. And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?! I do alot to try to keep up. But I hate cheap excuses. Touchwiz can kiss my ...!!! I can do without. If we can develop it to work here....Thank You Developers and all Members. Why Cant We? We were taught growing up to never give up!! If there is a will there is a way!! Never Give up, Never Surrender!! And so on!!!
So Come on Samsung.......we continue to be your loyal followers!! Give Us One More Gift....A late Christmas Present before letting us go to the SGIII!!!
Thats Alll I ask!! Even if it is Light...I can deal with that!!!
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Try for a moment to step outside your world and look at things from the other 99% of Epic users; the ones that AREN'T on XDA and spend most of their day doing things other than flashing their phones. Even assuming that ICS works smoothly on the Epic, replacing the current GB rom with a bare stripped ICS rom would look like a downgrade to them with all the Touchwiz functions missing. Maybe some people would like that, but I think it would be a marketing mess to try and explain why they are taking away features with an update.
For those of us who are geeky enough to want a plain ICS rom, stand by for CM9, that will be here much sooner than we would get an official ICS update.
And if I see one more new thread about whether or not we get some stupid upgrade a year from now I am going to throw up all over XDA! Please put all rants in an existing ICS rant and complaints!
Cheer up !
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why worry about phone updates that much ....
You have to understand that Samsung is just lazy about the Epic. We are just recently getting a final Gingerbread build in November and it STILL has memory leaks. They would like Sprint to discontinue them.
rootxda said:
And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!! And are they not working with ICS or Already have it?!
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2.2 is working well, but the CM alpha version of 2.3 that was put out for the Moment, ran like crap, and was pretty much dropped as the devs moved on. I HIGHLY doubt that any version of ICS will run on the Samsung Moment in a decent manner
Not that I dont wish it would, just having modded the Samsung Moment for a couple years now, IMO it just doenst have enough internal space or processing power for a full blown ICS build.
Now the Epic has enough of both, if the partitions are resized, but I highly doubt that Samsung will take that route.
IMO, the only way the Epic will see ICS is with CM9. Thankfully, I feel there is a very good chance CM9 will be developed and released at some point by the CM development team
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masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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OK there is some confusion here...
1. He was wrong with "can't," Samsung could remove touchwiz entirely from our phone, and put AOSP Ics, with our hardware drivers that they have access too. HTC has already done this by removing sense from a phone, so it could get gingerbread.
2. As long as there is a tutorial, any user can get used to a new ui.
3. Our phone(nor any gs phone) does not need any touchwiz at all in CM. We have to use some Samsung proprietary files, cause we cant change them.
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Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
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Maybe Samsung should just release a non TW version of ICS, but not have it as an OTA download. Those that want it would have to download it manually from a website and then use the "Odin for Dumbies" method of flashing ala the EB13 download that walked a person step by step on flashing the phone which would wipe the whole phone and install EB13.
That way the 99% of users who don't tinker with there phones would still have TW and GB on their phones and be happy with it, while the few that want ICS would get it as well.
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Yes but its not worth the time and money for them to do that. Especially when CM9 does it for free. In my opinion, the smartest thing for them to do would be to supply the Samsung CM maintainers with the necessary drivers and sources to easily get CM9 running perfectly. Doesnt cost any money or much time and at the end of the day, the people who care are happy.
masaidjet said:
I think he was right by saying "can't" it would confuse those who aren't tech savy(majority of smartphone users) by taking TW fully off our phone. And from what I heard our phone need some parts of TW. Cm7 "I think" have a little tw in it
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So, every Epic owner who doesn't use XDA also can't handle the transition to a new UI? Not one of those several hundred users has ever had a previous phone, especially not one made by HTC or any of the several other android phone manufacturers, or a Blackberry or iPhone? If that's the case, how did I miss the rioting when Sprint released the first update to Froyo? Or GB? (The UI changed with both of those upgrades, remember?)
rootxda said:
And on another note, there are unlimited number of people still with Samsung Moment!!
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Overpopulation must have really gotten out of control without my noticing - the last time I checked, this entire planet has a finite (in other words, limited) population...
I personally don't have a Moment, so the absolute maximum number of people (the limit, if you will) is already guaranteed to be [world population - 1] at the most (assuming every man, woman and child has a Moment except me)
So, what was that about stupidity?
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im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
austin420 said:
im sure he meant "a limited" not unlimited.
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That would directly contradict the point he tried to make by using that statement - that development is still rolling on the Moment. If there were limited users in this case (since we know that there is always a limit to the number, actually stating it implies a very limited number), then that would be an argument in favor of slowing or halting development on that device due to a dwindling user base
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It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
I'm not sure though. The op need some grammer training and a better spellchecker.
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interesting ...
austin420 said:
It reads to me that the thought he is trying to convey is, "why does the moment (with such a limited user base) already have people (not samsung) working on ics and cm9 and we dont (with many more people currently using the epic)?".
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Nicely reworded.
That said, anyone know of a link to any sort of ICS and/or CM9 in any state for the Moment?