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[Q] URGENT!!! How do I recover Defy+ after failed 2ndinit install

Hi all,
I have thus far killed two Defy+ mobiles ($600 worth) following poor instructions on this site. I am now stuck using a 7" tablet as a phone!!!
My latest effort failed after installing 2ndinit 2.0 Stable, rebooting after turning USB Debugging off. Now it boot loops with the red Moto label. I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues, even though the thread I took these instructions and the link from was referring specifically to a Defy+!!!
The last one I had did the same thing, only I thought it was because of the fact I chose to use the Latest rather than the Stable install of 2ndinit. I then proceeded to attempt to flash an SBF via the bootloader but now it is not booting at all, no logos, cant get to bootloader, nothing.
So, my question is, where can I get the latest Telstra Australia DEFY PLUS SBF from (please link me??) or one that I can flash over it that will work? Does anyone have any tips on how to recover this safely without sending it completely blank?
Also, does anyone have advice on how to recover the blank one?? Or is it useless?
Then, I would like to know, after I successfully recover the Defy+, HOW TO SAFELY 2ndinit it!!! I cannot afford to destroy another handset.
Thank you all for your prompt assistance! =)

which bootmenu did u install?and did u try flashing the SBF file via rsd lite?

fr0dzy said:
I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues
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I have run 2ndinit 2.0 on my Defy+ with no problem at all. I installed the latest bootmenu (1.0.7). Do you get the blue LED after powering the phone on?
You could try wiping data and cache in standard recovery. You should still be able to get in to that by holding vol- when you press and release the power button (press vol- and vol+ simultaneously when the android with the "!" in a red triangle appears). Your phone should still be rooted and have 2ndinit in place after a wipe. (Presumably you had rooted the phone? 2ndinit won't work otherwise.)
If that doesn't work then you may need to re-flash the SBF. If you know the build number of the ROM on your you can have a look on this thread to see if there is an SBF for it available online.
As a last resort, you could ask Motorola to fix it. If it's rooted then you've voided the warranty but if all it needs is a ROM flashing then they shouldn't charge you very much to do that. Better spend a few tens of dollars to fix the phone than write it off at a cost of several hundred dollars, surely?

recall while doing the install
did u root first??? did u get superuser permission prompt on downloading 1.0.7?did ur led flash GREEN???ensure that these are all yes

Dont worry brother. I had the same issue. I too got stuck in bootloop i.e at the M !
All I did was went in the stock bootloader ( POWER + VOL UP ) , connected it to my laptop. Downloaded RSDLite and the compatible sbf for my device ( Indian Version ) and then flashed it and it worked like charm
I would suggest you to use WiFi while using 2ndInit.

fr0dzy said:
Hi all,
I have thus far killed two Defy+ mobiles ($600 worth) following poor instructions on this site. I am now stuck using a 7" tablet as a phone!!!
My latest effort failed after installing 2ndinit 2.0 Stable, rebooting after turning USB Debugging off. Now it boot loops with the red Moto label. I have since read that one should never use 2.0 for Defy+ as it is known to have issues, even though the thread I took these instructions and the link from was referring specifically to a Defy+!!!
The last one I had did the same thing, only I thought it was because of the fact I chose to use the Latest rather than the Stable install of 2ndinit. I then proceeded to attempt to flash an SBF via the bootloader but now it is not booting at all, no logos, cant get to bootloader, nothing.
So, my question is, where can I get the latest Telstra Australia DEFY PLUS SBF from (please link me??) or one that I can flash over it that will work? Does anyone have any tips on how to recover this safely without sending it completely blank?
Also, does anyone have advice on how to recover the blank one?? Or is it useless?
Then, I would like to know, after I successfully recover the Defy+, HOW TO SAFELY 2ndinit it!!! I cannot afford to destroy another handset.
Thank you all for your prompt assistance! =)
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There's always this quote: "Do it at your own risk"..
Never say it's the forumers instructions wrong or incorrect.
Read and double confirmed before taking the plunge modifying any system files.
Besides.. The death of your Defy is not really dead yet. I think your Defy boot just fine in the first place after installing 2nd-init. The only thing you need to do is press -Vol (when the blue light blink in the booting sequence) to enter into bootmenu and select boot normal as default. Because if this is your first installing 2nd-init, it might get you boot 2ndinit which was the cause of your bootlooping. Now you had flashed another sbf.. It's good to flash just Defy+ sbf and start again the process you failed in the attempt to get 2nd-init.
We learned from the mistake and master it over relentless practicing..

farsight73 said:
There's always this quote: "Do it at your own risk"..
Never say it's the forumers instructions wrong or incorrect.
Read and double confirmed before taking the plunge modifying any system files.
Besides.. The death of your Defy is not really dead yet. I think your Defy boot just fine in the first place after installing 2nd-init. The only thing you need to do is press -Vol (when the blue light blink in the booting sequence) to enter into bootmenu and select boot normal as default. Because if this is your first installing 2nd-init, it might get you boot 2ndinit which was the cause of your bootlooping. Now you had flashed another sbf.. It's good to flash just Defy+ sbf and start again the process you failed in the attempt to get 2nd-init.
We learned from the mistake and master it over relentless practicing..
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+1 for your comment

Same thing happened to me as the OP.
Installed 2ndinit onto my Defy+, said installed and asked to switch off USB debugging and then reboot. I did that and am now in a boot loop. I didn't see the blue led when the phone rebooted, just straight to loop (red M logo, black screen, repeat).
I have tried taking the battery in and out (didn't help), celared cache and also factory wipe/reset (didn't work either). I can get the factory recovery and bootloader, but no android or 2ndinit recovery.
I assume I have to reflash with a full sbf. My question is this -
Does anyone have the stock Defy+ Telstra AU sbf for 2.3.4 (4.5.1-134 DPF-891) or more recent updates?
If not what is closest? I have found a few here but some of the 2.3.4 ones (bl5??) have no links (megaupload etc been pulled) or no root. This one looked promising (here) but no link. Would this one (here) be good?
Can I then apply OTA update to get back to AU firmware if I need? I would use MS2Ginger or CM7 if/when I get the phone working again, but return to stock is still useful.
Thanks for your help,
Nova

i must say u need to flash proper sbf to recover...
just wanna share my experience...
after installing SndndInit v2.0 ( with stock 2.3.6_134 DFP1321 ), i installed stable version of recovery & rebooted my phone...all of this with usb debugging "ON"...n got no errors! maybe there is no need to keep debugging off...
Sent from my MB526 using XDA App

OK, I flashed full sbf and got the phone working again (uses the sbf from the second link in my previous post). Then rooted and install 2ndinit again.
Boot loop again, exactly the same as the first time.
Install goes well, says it is installed, green led is on, however when I reboot, boot loop. There is no recovery screen or anything (except stock).
Is there some more detailed install instructions other than in the 2dninit thread? I have been transferring to sd card root, click apk to run 2ndinit, select 1.0.7 and it says everything worked. Just doesn't when I reboot.
Cheers,
Nova

No-one has any suggestions?
Do I need to put 2ndinit.apk in phone and not sd card?
I am going to try an older version and see if that works.
Cheers,
Nova

i hope you have rooted your phone properly else use SuperOneClick from here
you can download different versions of SndInitDefy.apk form here
go to Setings -> Applications -> Manage Application
look for SndInitDefy & clear its data (your previous install)
put the downloaded apk in SD card & run it (fresh install)
MY NOTE--keep usb debugging ON all the time...
run defy2ndInit - install 2ndInit Recovery - select latest version...
let it download...1st RED led lights then Green...wait for 2 minutes...reboot your phone...
when phone reboots BLUE led flashes for just 3-4 seconds...press VOL DOWN button when its flashing...
i hope this helps..im not a pro but i did follow exact same steps just 2 days back..
PS i did used v2.0 of SndInitDefy.apk...no problems yet..made backup twice & recovered too..

Well I tried v1.7 and that worked. I then updated to version 2.0 and that worked as well so i don't know what was going wrong. The only thing that happened different was the red led came on while 2ndinit 1.7 was loading (this had not happened before), so I would guess that 2.0 wasn't properly installing even though it said that it was installed.
Thanks for all your help.
Cheers,
Nova

hit thanks if I've helped
right now I'm having ICS on my phone thanks to quarx
Sent from my MB526 using XDA

apurvdate said:
hit thanks if I've helped
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Did that. And thanks again for your help.
Cheers,
Nova

Had exactly same problem
I did the same experience as you after locking up after 2ndInit.
I used your recovery sbf as suggested and the phone works again. Thanks!
Were you able to find a Telstra Defy sbf and were you able to get 2ndInit to work and upgrade to CM9 & ICS?
Cheers,

apurvdate said:
i hope you have rooted your phone properly else use SuperOneClick from here
you can download different versions of SndInitDefy.apk form here
go to Setings -> Applications -> Manage Application
look for SndInitDefy & clear its data (your previous install)
put the downloaded apk in SD card & run it (fresh install)
MY NOTE--keep usb debugging ON all the time...
run defy2ndInit - install 2ndInit Recovery - select latest version...
let it download...1st RED led lights then Green...wait for 2 minutes...reboot your phone...
when phone reboots BLUE led flashes for just 3-4 seconds...press VOL DOWN button when its flashing...
i hope this helps..im not a pro but i did follow exact same steps just 2 days back..
PS i did used v2.0 of SndInitDefy.apk...no problems yet..made backup twice & recovered too..
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I have rooted phone and tried both the 1.7 and 2.3 apps for 2ndInit Recovery and still on stock ROM but i never get the blue led flashing on boot up.
Any ideas?

Defy Plus indian firmware
nidhish91 said:
Dont worry brother. I had the same issue. I too got stuck in bootloop i.e at the M !
All I did was went in the stock bootloader ( POWER + VOL UP ) , connected it to my laptop. Downloaded RSDLite and the compatible sbf for my device ( Indian Version ) and then flashed it and it worked like charm
I would suggest you to use WiFi while using 2ndInit.
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Can u please provide me the indian firmware link
Thanks
Zafar

Black camera!
Black camera!
Hey!
Somebody help me!!
Defy +: I put the original ruins of the ruins Rotolo, then the Boot Menu in Hungarian translation, and are followed by the error in the "Blade" my brain that I installed along with the 720p and panorama for Gingerbread Motorola
and since then my camera does not work, just great blackness!
Somebody help me!
green lenses!
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Black camera!
Hey!
Somebody help me!!
Defy +: I put the original ruins of the ruins Rotolo, then the Boot Menu in Hungarian translation, and are followed by the error in the "Blade" my brain that I installed along with the 720p and panorama for Gingerbread Motorola
and since then my camera does not work, just great blackness!
Somebody help me!
green lenses!

Pls explain 1st init, 2nd boot, bootstrap and safestrap

I have been using droid2bootstrap on my milestone2. I notice there is an option for 1st init 2nd boot or something like that. I have been holding out from trying tezet's cm9 because of the camera not working and now i saw a new post that someone has a cm9 rom with a working cam (sorry i forgot the dev's name i think its ondavol or something) i would like to try it out. I have read somewhere about safestrap. Is it safe to use on m2? Tia.

Safestrap is based over CWM, so it should be easy to port, but I'm not sure it's currently compatible with M2. You can try to install it, just keep in mind that you'll need to flash a sbf in case something goes wrong.
2nd init is a set of scripts that run on the OS startup, allowing devs to sideload some files, required to run custom ROMs. At least that's what I understood of it while I used it. I can be completely wrong about it. Be careful =P
Flashing a custom ROM is relatively harmless, just keep a nandroid of your original system and you should be OK. Safestrap just automatizes it, automatically flashing safe and unsafe ROMs on your device with a few clicks, safe being the custom ROM, where you can play as you want without harming the original system, and unsafe being the original system, where it's unsafe to tinker with it. Besides that, it's just CWM.
M3 XT860
DarkDroid 1.1 (Unsafe) + Hash's ICS Beta 1 (Safe)

Thanks you very much for the reply. I am happy with m currentt setup but i am really itching to try out ics. Like i said the lack off camera is put me off from trying just yet. The moment i read about this new rom with camera somewhat working, i just cant resist anymore.
I guess nandroid is the way to go then.

The developer is called rondoval
Just keep in mind, that it's not possible at the moment (afaik) to unlock your SIM card. So you can use Wifi only.
That's just a reason for me to wait for another build with fixed SIM unlock...
Camera works with normal photos only, so no panorama and no videos
Still a step

[Q] Old Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT

I have Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT. Can anyone help me to upgrade it to CM7 from quarx?
I want to know what are the tools I can use to root, install recovery.

anidesh said:
I have Motorola Bravo with 2.1 Update 1 ATT. Can anyone help me to upgrade it to CM7 from quarx?
I want to know what are the tools I can use to root, install recovery.
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Why dont you upgrade first to froyo?
Connect to internet, go to settings -> about phone -> I dont remenber the next
Else if you can upgrade via OTA update,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559109
and flash SBF with RSD Lite!
We will continue after you upgrade to froyo!

Thanks
Please excuse me for being lazy. I should have searched more before posting my query. I found your guide of upgrading from Froyo before posting my query.
Anyway... thanks once again.......
I will upgrade to Froyo and then upgrade to quarx CM7 build. [Does wifi hotspot and USB tethering works in quarx CM7 build?]

anidesh said:
Please excuse me for being lazy. I should have searched more before posting my query. I found your guide of upgrading from Froyo before posting my query.
Anyway... thanks once again.......
I will upgrade to Froyo and then upgrade to quarx CM7 build. [Does wifi hotspot and USB tethering works in quarx CM7 build?]
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Of course, everything is working fine.
You can also use MIUI too everything is working , but I recommend CM7 it has official support from Quarx, ICS CM9 its officially supported.

I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?

anidesh said:
I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?
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When you install 2init and you run it, you press on install recovery, whatever you want, I always choose lastest.
It will ask you for root permissions twice. Later when installed led notificarion eill show green.
Turn off the phone then turn it on when motorola logo is shown you will see notification light in blue, press vol down button, and thats all.

Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.

anidesh said:
Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.
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Did you press volume down button when blue light?
It will go inmediatly to boot manager!

anidesh said:
I am able to upgrade to Froyo successfully using instruction provided in your thread. I am able to root also successfully using your instruction. But 2nd init Defy is not working. Whenever I install 2nd init Defy, my phone goes into boot loop. I have disabled USB debugging post install and restarted phone. I tried both latest version and stable version of recovery. In all cases, I am getting boot loop. Any pointers?
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Leave Debugging enabled after 2nd-Init installs and restart.
anidesh said:
Everything is performed as you have said. At last step when I turn on the phone. I am not getting blue light, I am getting always Motorola Red Logo continuously [boot loop?].
Dont know whether its related but I will try putting my getting another SD card.
Thanks all your support.
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Its not SD Card related. Did you update to Froyo with the OTA or SBF? I used the SBF myself and have never had any 2nd-init issues after installing it. One thing you can try is Factory Reset. Turn on the phone holding Power+Volume Up, then press Volume Up+Volume Down on the screen with a green triangle. Then select Wipe Data\Factory Reset. What this does is deletes everything on /data partition; old eclair data may still be there preventing the tools to work properly if you updated with OTA. Sometimes latent data is still left behind after flashing the sbf and this also helps with that as well.
Since you plan on installing custom roms, you can skip the Blur Setup by typing "eebluroffee" on the very first screen after flashing the sbf. Just hold down the menu button and it will bring up the soft keyboard. There's nothing to select to type into, just type the command and it will eventually work. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to work. Then just root and install 2nd-Init as usual.
Here is the link to the thread with the latest version of 2nd-Init Defy. The ones on our forum are outdated, but usually work perfectly (always for me).
Updated 2nd-Init 2.3 Thread

Thanks a lot. Finally I am able to install 2nd Init by replacing latest apk in installer created by josuearisty.
Thanks skeevy420 for the hint. Now I am able to upgrade bravo to latest CM7 from Quarx.
Mine is the oldest Bravo (its a engineering sample from Motorola).

anidesh said:
Thanks a lot. Finally I am able to install 2nd Init by replacing latest apk in installer created by josuearisty.
Thanks skeevy420 for the hint. Now I am able to upgrade bravo to latest CM7 from Quarx.
Mine is the oldest Bravo (its a engineering sample from Motorola).
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If it is an engineering sample, it may have an unlocked boot loader...

marquae11 said:
If it is an engineering sample, it may have an unlocked boot loader...
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I first though that as well. But if it did, it lost it by flashing the sbf and going retail.
@anidesh -- if you've never, ever, ever flashed an sbf on you're phone can you run the following two commands on Android Terminal Emulator without quotes "su" then "dd if=/dev/disk/mmcblk1p15 of=/mnt/sdcard/boot.img" and upload the boot.img to Mediafire or similar.
If you have flashed the sbf, then don't bother since if you had an unlocked bootloader you just lost it.

I already flashed retail sbf so I lost it. I have one more engineering sample. Its battery connection has problem. If I am able to fix it then I will get image you are asking.

anidesh said:
I already flashed retail sbf so I lost it. I have one more engineering sample. Its battery connection has problem. If I am able to fix it then I will get image you are asking.
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Have you tried making a MacGyver Cable? Although that won't work if it is a problem with the internal connection.
If it is just a battery connection problem then an OEM Motorola Factory Cable will work -- they send power directly to the phone where the standard usb cable only sends power to the battery. Only problem is they cost around $40 USD. Although if you flash roms a lot they are worth buying since you can flash the sbf and roms with 0% battery. There are sites with mods on how to make one, just google and you'll find one. If I remember correctly, Epsylon3 has a post with a tutorial on how to make one.

skeevy420 said:
Have you tried making a MacGyver Cable? Although that won't work if it is a problem with the internal connection.
If it is just a battery connection problem then an OEM Motorola Factory Cable will work -- they send power directly to the phone where the standard usb cable only sends power to the battery. Only problem is they cost around $40 USD. Although if you flash roms a lot they are worth buying since you can flash the sbf and roms with 0% battery. There are sites with mods on how to make one, just google and you'll find one. If I remember correctly, Epsylon3 has a post with a tutorial on how to make one.
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If someone wants to try new items to MIUI between this...
link..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535035
skeevy420 as work with the rom pikachu edition

Bricked or not ?

I was running my defy on cm10 then found a cm10 ready sbf to update, and then it gave me "bootloader 9.10 err:A5,70,39,00,27" so i found my original sbf and flashed it and I got a blank screen(no backlight even) but the phone shows on RSDlite as connected and I can reflash another sbf, and it shows the progress (and sw updating on the phone) then the same blackscreen (with white led on)
So did I cook my phone or am i missing something, thanks for help in advance !

Defy with what kernel on CM10?
Is it redlense or greenlense?
Sent from my sending thing (copyright by domini99 )

what base sbf did you use on cm10? what kernel? what sbfs did you flash after that? does the white led light up when connected to rsd lite?
please give specific information when asking for help, otherwise its like telling a doctor on the phone: "i have a headache, heal me!"...

I was using this sbf base: JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1 ,
with froyo kernel(by epsilon) and epsilons cm10 nighlties(my phone is red lens, although the app which shows the color shows as green),
then i applied this cm-10.Quarx(17.08).Defy+.red.bl4-5.fixed (i have no idea what i'm doing xD) and then i got the bootloader error.
UPDATE: i got it to boot and its working fine but apparently i flashed a defy+ rom(DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed) because it shows as mb526 wtf ? , and if i try to flash gb kernel i get back to the lovely bootloader error(cm10 is now working without the kernel )

Vcek said:
I was using this sbf base: JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.1 ,
with froyo kernel(by epsilon) and epsilons cm10 nighlties(my phone is red lens, although the app which shows the color shows as green),
then i applied this cm-10.Quarx(17.08).Defy+.red.bl4-5.fixed (i have no idea what i'm doing xD) and then i got the bootloader error.
UPDATE: i got it to boot and its working fine but apparently i flashed a defy+ rom(DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_CEE_ROOTED_No_Signed) because it shows as mb526 wtf ? , and if i try to flash gb kernel i get back to the lovely bootloader error(cm10 is now working without the kernel )
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i love it when people do things they have no idea of, and they get surprised when they brick the phone and then beg for help on xda... -.-
first of all, read this thread, so you know what you have done and why it was stupid.
second of all, if the app shows you have green lens (soc module), then it is right.
and third, if you flash an mb526 sbf, of course everything recognizes it as mb526... and because you have an mb526 now (probably without any working camera, because you have green lens), you dont need the gb kernel no more, because you already have it.
funny, right, doing things that you dont understand? now you have made yourself a phone without camera...

My phone is red lens(i think apps read info from kernel), and the camera is working fine on cm10 now although i have done an unnecessary update to cg version(atleast what i think it is),
currently im trying to fix the following problems:
1- Most apps cant detect MEDIA on my sd although i can browse it on all file explorers (EDIT: Fixed itself after another re-install)
2- compass is gone crazy(EDIT: found out this is problem with cm10)
I don't why you're getting so aggressive on me, you have no idea how many times i've read all the guides (im not a dev, im just a poweruser)
i'll be glad if you helped

Unable to root Defy MB526

I have Motorola Defy MB525 which recently got BRICKED and I was unable to flash any SBF files found on forums or internet, so I gave a try to MB526 Stock SBF and it worked and my MB525 is now showing as MB526 in "About Phone"
But I am unable to root the device now, none other SBF works too and also few things like Camera, WIFI are not working...
Can anyone help me to know how can I root my MB526(previously MB525) and install custom ROMs or if I can go back to MB525 again???

Why not just be happy that you got your phone back? Why again start to torture it? after rooting you will force it to do things your way(that it knows it cant do). Last time it gave up it's life trying to do something that'd content you.
Ok for rooting, no one does it better than kingo app. It roots any phone model any firmware (the last time it could root my preordered handset just after it arrived).
Download it from kingoapp(dot)com and install it. Enable usb debugging in your phone. Run kingo app, then connect the phone to your pc using usb data cable. Let the drivers install and in case they are not found in your phone, kinggo app will automatically find and download it from the internet(you have to particularly trust it with that. I was made to believe it has a driver database as large as the universe because of the varied and very unpopular models I could root with it; and the drivers were very accurate). Wait for the drivers to be installed and then click on "root" and again wait until it says "rooted successfully." (Trust me it will say!)

thank
thanks a lot... it worked like a charm.... :good:

developeryamhi said:
thanks a lot... it worked like a charm.... :good:
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I told u :thumbup:

developeryamhi said:
I have Motorola Defy MB525 which recently got BRICKED and I was unable to flash any SBF files ...
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I don't believe you, you can flash any SBF..but perhaps the defy won'7 start afterwards
If defy shows a black screen there is a problem with the bootloader, if there is a boot loop a factary reset would help..vol(-) on start and vol(+) AND Vol(-) when android is smiling at you.
Anyway, I did the same and flashed a MB526 SBF, just for a try. And it looks that there is no way back due to bootloader trouble.
No problem, you can use a 2ndboot ROM and everything will look shiny.
For rooting I used framaroot, easy and simple, no drivers, nothing.
USB dubug afterwards for Sndinit...

bianchifan said:
I don't believe you, you can flash any SBF..but perhaps the defy won'7 start afterwards
If defy shows a black screen there is a problem with the bootloader, if there is a boot loop a factary reset would help..vol(-) on start and vol(+) AND Vol(-) when android is smiling at you.
Anyway, I did the same and flashed a MB526 SBF, just for a try. And it looks that there is no way back due to bootloader trouble.
No problem, you can use a 2ndboot ROM and everything will look shiny.
For rooting I used framaroot, easy and simple, no drivers, nothing.
USB dubug afterwards for Sndinit...
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I was able to go to bootloader only and I was able to flash SBFs but none were working, after flashing there was no output, no Motorola Logo or anything, just charging white led was on...

todopertin said:
I told u :thumbup:
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the only sbf that worked for my phone is DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_BLUR_SIGN_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTGB005.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTGB_P023_A025_M002_Service1FF.sbf
but camera shows black screen, wifi restarts constantly
is there any better SBF i can use??? or any other way around??? as when i tried to install custom cm7 rom, i get some error about update_binary

developeryamhi said:
just charging white led was on...
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even that LED I missed..no reaction, RSDLite didn't recognized a device
Battery out, VOL up and batt in was the solution to get it recon again
developeryamhi said:
the only sbf that worked for my phone is DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_BLUR_SIGN_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTGB005.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTGB_P023_A025_M002_Service1FF.sbf
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I used DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-188_TMOUK_SIGN_....sbf 'cause I had trouble starting up without SIM with some SBFs.
Nevertheless, Wifi probs and missing camera iare features when running MB526 ROMs on a MB525 device unless you decide to use a custum kernel.
For ex. Quarx's Cyanogenmod 10 will work fine and some others which work with SndBoot !!! feature.
Please look for a ROM suitable for Defy AND Defy+!

developeryamhi said:
the only sbf that worked for my phone is DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_BLUR_SIGN_USADEFYEMARAB1B8RTGB005.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTGB_P023_A025_M002_Service1FF.sbf
but camera shows black screen, wifi restarts constantly
is there any better SBF i can use??? or any other way around??? as when i tried to install custom cm7 rom, i get some error about update_binary
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that's because you are using ROM/firmware of a different model, there's little you can do if you aren't such a serious developer....try to find a custom rom for your device rather than using the original firmware of an other model. Or simply maybe it's time to buy a new phone.