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Need some help with an Andoird build for my dad.

Hi
First off all I want to say: I can probably find everything here in the forum but I'll spend hours and hours reading and most off the time I'll read useless info that I don't need so if you have the knowledge and it just takes 5 minutes to share it please help me out I'll be thankful.
I myself have a HTC legend and have read LOTS off posts before finally rooting and flashing custom roms. Now my dad has asked me if I could help him to get android on his HD2.
He needs to be able to sync his agenda with outlook (for work (Calendar and contacts) I read something about HTC sync should be working on newer kernels is it included in some builds then?), and have a stable build (its not a ROM if I'm correct?) one that he could use for daily use. Don't need anything too special (not even root but its not a problem if it does have root access)
So I've started reading around in the development section and from what I read I don't need to root or flash anything, just extract a zip to the SD and name it Android. Is that correct? (then why do you have special android roms?)
So is there someone who can link me to a good stable (no OC kernels and stuff please) Android Build and tell me if there are known bugs with HD2 builds that don't get mentioned in those threats because they are known as general knowledge.
Thanks in advance
If I could ever help you back with HTC legend problem or something I'll gladly do it for you.
grts
Jonas (sorry for the pour English it's not my main language)
I'm reading topics and If I find answers I'll update this but please if you have the knowledge to help me in a few minutes PLEASE do so.

Never mind found this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782930
and solved most of my questions looks like its not as fully operating as I thought :s.
So It's not just as easy as unzipping and renaming that would have been too easy.

It isn't very complicated to run android on the HD2. I don't know what feature you suspect isn't working that scared you from attempting. Every feature I could want is working. You also don't need to sacrifice windows mobile if you try android. Give it a shot and post again if you have trouble.

Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
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JonasDroid said:
Problem is that I need to root and flash other wm Rom if I want everything to work as it should. Or isn't that really necessary? I'll just try a build and see what it does. Thx for th reply
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if you have to hspl your hd2 depends on your stock radio rom version. it should be a newer one like 2.10 or 2.12 to avoid most issues with android. flashing another winmo rom is only necessary if you have robot voice and/or faster playback of music (just to mention 2 problems)... you don't have anything to loose if you try android from stock hd2. if it's not working fine, you may think of flashing a new radio and/or rom!

So if I unzip the file I can dowload here put it into android folder in the root of my SD, I'm good to go? What about that kernel do I need to flash it??

if he uses it for work then i'd suggest laying off android for now

he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?

JonasDroid said:
he could still use the WM? It's just like a program no? So by just removing the folder it would be back to normal?
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You basically reboot the phone and it goes back to wmo. Its almost like running a live linux cd...

When you run HaRet Android takes over the phone. When you reboot it will come back to WinMo. Then you run HaRet again and you back in Android. And so on. WinMo 'lives' on the phone, Android on sd.

So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?

JonasDroid said:
So the kernel they are talking about is a fake kernel? (not flashed to the actual ROM)
So if anything goes wrong at first boot with the android I can just pull out the battery without bricking the phone?
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Its not a fake kernel...it is real but it resides on the sd card so your original wmo stuff will still be there in case you ever need to use wmo again.

new to xda and looking for the build for my hd2
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.

pierreg34 said:
Hello I am new to xda and i have a hd2 it is new and have had it about 5 wks am looking for a way to unlock it and also to put the android os on it. I had a friend of mine try this past wknd to do it and it kept flashing a error code and wouldn't allow us to proceed. Can someone please help direct me in the right direction much appreciated.
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You s should start your own thread. There are many different unlock so specify which one you're after, sim unlock? This section is only for android so if you need help on something else, post it in the hd2 general section, not here. Unless it is android related, you won't find help here.

Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?

You are correct.
If it doesnt work for you just erase the android folder. I would recommend flashing hard spl, and changing your radio to 2.12.50.02_2. Then load the hyperdroid 1.6 rom. You will have the best luck with that probably without having to change anything in winmo.

JonasDroid said:
Ok so if I install this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773790
I can just remove the file on the SD when it doesn't work like we want it too and everything will be back to normal right?
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I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.

If you flash a 2.x.51 radio on a t-mobile US HD2 you will brick it. Try flashing radio 2.12.50.02_2

johncmolyneux said:
I'd recommend using a spare SD card. When you run Android it creates a ton of folders on it, so it's easier to have a dedicated one than to try and delete everything later (if he decides not to stick with Android).
Also, I read through the thread and couldn't see anywhere... did you tell us what radio is on the HD2? It needs to be (I believe) 2.08 or higher, and it's VERY recommended to have a 2.x.50 and not a 2.x.51 radio.
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Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
I think I'll just give this a try this weekend (when my dad (and his phone xD)are home)

JonasDroid said:
Yeah dno the radio version or the bootloader version.
Do i need root to see that?? Is it just booting while pressing volume down to get the bootloader and the info I need?
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Just reboot the phone. The radio version is shown at the bottom left of the first white HTC screen (R,G,D - R is the radio version).
JonasDroid said:
Also I read that the HyperDroidV1.6 is overclocked and undervolted and I drather not do that. Just want it as stable as can be. (I know my overclocked legend is stable but if he has a really crappy processor,..)
BTW: I know what overclocking does but what's good about undervolting?? better batterylife?
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I'm assuming undervolting is for better battery life, but have never bothered with it myself. Just have a read of the most popular Android builds to see which you think will work for you. I can recommend FroyoStone Sense v3.1, but I would because that's what I use!
It's so easy to try the different builds that it's no big deal if you play with one and don't like it, so don't be shy - give em all a go if that's what it takes!
Edit: Just noticed your edit from when I was posting. lol

[Q] Newbs Q's for Stock HD2 running 2.2 from SD.

I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's

you are in the wrong forum...
There is a Q&A section for the HD2... Try searching for the answers before posting... all the questions you asked have been addressed before...

ShortySk8n said:
I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's
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Best radio in my opinion for low signals is 2.15.50.14
Running from internal memory has speed advantages.. android loads way faster and is more responsive in my opinion.... also sd cards do get messed up from all the garbage files that end up being put there and that leads to problems with them and the only solution is reformating them all over
NAND is the way all phones run when originally purchased running from phones internal memory
Rooting your phone means giving yourself root, or superuser access, giving you access to system files and the ability to change things that normally are marked read only itallows you to change all kinds of things that normally you wouldn't be able to, along with install custom versions of Android.

ShortySk8n said:
I have a stock HD2 running Blue Topia from a class 10 SD card on Tmo in the US. Is there a way to upgrade the "radios" without rooting? Will that help low / no signal in a few locations. Everything works great except in those locations. A new My Touch has better signal in those locations. I don't know if that's hardware or software though?
Is there a benefit Rooting my HD2 & running Android from internal memory instead of the SD card? The SD seems plenty fast to me? Also does Clockwork Mod have any use when running from the SD?
Lastly what is Nand? Is that different from "rooted"?
Thank you very much for putting up with & answering all my Newb Q's
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Cut him a break these terms can be confusing to new users.
If you want to update or change your radio you simply re flash it in Windows like you did the first time. I am not sure if this will solve reception issues. It's worth a shot. Please let us know how it goes.
Rooting is not the same as NAND. Rooting refers to giving the user total access to change hidden files in the system of the phone. Blue topia is already rooted.
NAND refers to flashing an Android ROM directly to the phones memory, thereby making it a native Android phone (allowing you to use SD card for apps and such).
I don't think clockwork mod has any use on RAM builds.
Please read and search before posting questions, as these have been answered before.
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spyderman33 said:
you are in the wrong forum...
There is a Q&A section for the HD2... Try searching for the answers before posting... all the questions you asked have been addressed before...
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My apologies for posting in the wrong place. Anyone who knows far more then I can move this to the right place, Or delete it if you wish. I did try searching for my answers before posting these questions. But I know about as much about navigating this website as I do about Radios, Nand & Rooting & was unable to find the answers to my questions. If someone can put links in here to those other answers they would be very helpful.
Thank you for your patience
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Mean this was posted it the Q&A for HD2 Android? I'm honestly asking? Because the 1st comment said I posted in the wrong place. Also it took me multiple tries to get back to this post.

casemandan said:
Best radio in my opinion for low signals is 2.15.50.14
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Where would I find that radio? If you could give me a link I would be grateful. (edit: I found the radio thread) One of the other posts said to replace the radio in Win MO 6.5? If I'm running Blue Topia from a SD card, Does the Blue Topia have the radio software? Or is it using the Radio software from Win mo 6.5?
The other thing I have learned since this original post is that the loss of signal is a lot more often then 1st thought. Before noticing this problem I loaded Gingerbread onto my SD card (I copy things back & forth PC to SD & a backup of last known good Blue Topia) Ran it for a short time then loaded my backup copy of Blue Topia back on the SD. Wiping it clean each time but not reformatting it. That's when I started noticing signal problems after trying Gingerbread. I don't know if the 2 are related?
casemandan said:
Running from internal memory has speed advantages.. android loads way faster and is more responsive in my opinion.... also sd cards do get messed up from all the garbage files that end up being put there and that leads to problems with them and the only solution is reformating them all over
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If I'm happy with the responsiveness? Is that the only reason to run it internally? Other then the garbage files. & won't the garbage files just end up on the internal memory? Also won't having a last known good on the PC help me dump those garbage files?
Thank you very much for all your help

[Q] SD Android continuation

I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this

Hopefully die a quick death. By the way, why can't you install mgldr? Also, this is the wrong forum.
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i suspect NAND will work for most 95% of the phones out there
the question is , SD card is old technology but does bring its benefits
backing up, upgrading builds and modifying components were a little easier made from Windows Mobile. Multiple Android boots from different Android Folders as well using Exceller's
well, to me, SD card should perhaps move to the direction of RAM.
and finally NAND only and RAM only builds should conquer.. speed, stability and functionality
Primary Generation : NAND (with some setbacks now)
Secondary Generation : RAM ( with some setbacks now)
Tertiary Generation : SD (with setbacks as well)
they all have their UP and DOWNS, I believe its CHOICE
and if you dont like Android, go with Windows Mobile ! The power to customize is up 2 you
darkstone is working on NAND+RAM, so lets see how that unfolds...

Ahmun_Ra said:
I have a smal question... I was wondering what will happen to the SD builds now that NAND is out. Are devs gonna disclaim those of us that like to have WM on they'r phone or like me cannot install NAND?
If u think this is not the place for the question feel free to move this
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even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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Probably because there are no or very little problems with the NAND builds so nobody has questions about them.

This is an interesting thread. I am using sd builds too. I'd like to have dual boot too because i need winmo from time to time to use mytinytv. Most recent android builds are now moving to nand. Unless magldr has dual boot options, i'd like to stick with sd builds.
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Do we have the option to run a SD build from mgldr ? Ive had a little go but no boot yet...

norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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The nand build have their own sub forum. XDA app cannot see that yet. Try to browse in a computer and you'll see.
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norpan111 said:
I'm wondering what's happening to nand roms, not even on first page? just SD builds
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All the nand roms have been moved to its own subforum.
Edit: knew I should've just waited to let somebody else answer

Satyan said:
even me would be on the list... as i tried everything possible (combinations of WM ROM/ RADIO /TASK29) to install nand.
magldr does install. but partition send failed is the error on dft installer... and magldr says block 0 , bad crc..
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I had this problem. After I did the following , flashing nand worked.
1. Flash with task 29
2. Flash stock win mo rom
3. Flash magldr
4. Flash nand rom of choice.
This process has to be done in that order.
I tried different combinations until I found this one to work repeatedly.
Hopefully you figure it out...
Also did you un check allow usb connections in active sync?
Good luck.
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I believe nand is better ,faster and more stable way to have android in our phones but i think that is better to have more than one choises.

personally i do think i NEVER move the build into NAND - as I am still vigorously using the GPS software in the original WM which is too useful to me ... lol
furthermore, backing up all stuff in SD is too easy to me - so I didn't / never think of placing any backup stuff in my android builds... lol

SD RAM will defeat NAND...i guess
I believe that most of the limitation you will incur with NAND have limited chances of been resolved (user space).
I've tested 6 NAND builds, they work fine and they have a lower battery drain compared to SD and SD/RAM release.
Nevertheless most of us want to install apps and unfortunately not all can be moved to SD....so IMHO at the end the most flexible long term solution is SD plus RAM loading (to have the benefits of huge user space and good performance...with a little higher battery consumption)

Well, as much as I love flashing the living crap out of my phones. . . . I quit. . . After I got a perfected WMO and Robot combo running.
My phone runs about 97% perfect. . . Which is just the same if not better then a native Android device.

I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.

Black Antitoon said:
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+1, 100% same case with me.
(and we are not alone... )

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Black Antitoon said:
I currently absolutely want to keep WM on my phone, because I like it but especially because there are a couple of apps for WinMo which I really need. I have bought a HD2 and not an Android phone because I need both systems. Therefore I hope to see that SD Android development goes on, possibly in the RAM direction.
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+10. totaly with you and with SD RAM . So why we have bought HD2 ???
DARKSTONE please continu with SD RAM .

I would be very happy to have some sd/ram build updates in the future. Obviously as we are having the nand boom at the moment, noone should expect sd/ram builds in the next couple of days, I guess.
I love having my energy rom under the android one, especially for my Igo8 navigation. And I still have one of those stupid issues with all the builds when the phone stucks on 60Ma on standby for hours, dont know why. Sd gives the freedom of costumization, great for research, I can save any build in a directory and put it aside.
Thanks for all your hard work and keep up the good work.

Nand has been the holy grail of developement - and so the big, big interest...But in going down the nand route you are losing half the functionality of the phone. So until and unless there is a dual boot option I think I'm going to stick with SD

[Q] Easiest to follow Android on HD2 guide?

I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks

I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.

Blkegk said:
I also would like to know since i just pick up a HD2 as my backup phone. I would prefer to have android and no windows on this phone.
I'm very familiar with flashing and android since my primary phone is a Vibrant.
sorry for hijacking your thread OP since i see no reason to create another thread asking almost the same question.
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No probs matey

I'm new to this too but I understand that you can run Android on your SD card (at least 4gb class 4 Sandisc from what I read - although I opted for 16gb Class 4 MicroSDHC for about £15) if you want to keep Winmo on your phone system.
NAND builds replace your winmo operating system completely.
I read its not a bad idea to keep androis on SD as you can use Winmo to update builds that may have bugs or improvements.
I see today that there's a guy buidling a multi-android boot up so as your phone starts I guess you can choose Winmo or choose from a few android builds, depending on what each build gives you.
Some builds have everything but are slow, some are thin on features but fast.
I'm yet to install one so I can't speak with any knowledge - I'm hoping to do it today using this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881958
Good luck.
Cheers

Thanks for that Darrell, I had read that guide but had been told that installing on the SD cards slowed up the phone so was really after installing on the phones memory

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
might want to read that if you havent already

Thanks Richy - hadn't seen that one!

I'm thinking of getting an HD2 phone used to install Android too. I'd probably want to run it on the SD so that WM6.5 or WP7 can be run on the NAND.
Where did you read it was slower on the SD ?

Junks666 said:
I've read through most of the guides now & to be honest don't understand a lot of them & as well as which my HD2 is (was) UK TMobile & factory unlocked then debranded (after a lot of help on here) by me
I'm not a complete idiot (close to) when it comes to technical things but this is my first HTC phone & I was considering selling it for the Desire HD when I read that the HD2 with the WP7 Android software was every bit as good.
I can see there are two versions one being on an SD card & one using the phones memory. Is there a very simple guide or should I steer clear?
Thanks for your help in advance guys
Junks
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Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811

The only limitation of that FAQ is that it doesn't have a clockworkmod guide which some of the NAND roms use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898913

WarlockW said:
Give this a try ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981811
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Thanks Warlock - I don't understand that at all!! lol
Ok I've found a guide that I can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11215136&postcount=8
Two things if someone can help please though
I've decide on either JDMS or PRJ Build Nands but.............
1. I can't find out how to downgrade from SPL-3.03 or find the relevant files?
2. I've just managed to debrand the phone using HSPL2, will this affect anything or the steps which have to be done?
Thanks guys

NAND vs. SD method

Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?

CTSRP said:
Hi
A friend of mine asked me if I could put Android on his HD2 as he bought one with German language and he doesn't understand anything at all. Now we wan't to completely remove Windows Mobile 6.5.x from the phone and install Android. ICS with HTC sense is prefered but and older version will also do.
I have found multiple tutorials, but I wonder which method is the best. NAND or SD?
At this point in time we don't have any SD-card in the phone, so I asume the Sd method isn't usable. But which method and ROM is the best to use if we want to be able to switch language and want Android experience as close to the HTC android phones as possible.
Are there any bugs with the HD2 in Android? I've heard that there should be problems with the sound when calling people, and the data-connection should be unstable as well. Are these rumors still current or have they been solved?
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Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information

adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?

Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).

parker09 said:
Tell your friend to invest in about 4GB or more, once you've got a few apps, video video clips, music files and recovery backups then the 4GB will be eaten fairly fast imo. If you grab a class 6 card you can get one for less then $1/GB (aud).
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Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?

CTSRP said:
Sure I'll tell him that. But will the installationsfiles for Android fit on my 128MB card?
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No.

CTSRP said:
Thanks for the quick reply. I will read further on how to install using NAND method. But how big should the SD-card be. As said he doesn't have a SD-card in his phone. I have one but it's only 128MB, so not a whole lot. If the phone was using the MiniSD cards instead of microSD I had a 1GB card. But isn't it possible to get a Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM and then extract and repack it on the PC so it can fit the 128MB card. Or are the packed ROM's small enough to fit on a 128MB card?
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Dont forget the thanks button
Anyways, basically the sd card is used to put the rom in and all music, pics, apps etc. will be stored on the sd card. plus, the 128 mb card will not hold the rom. Some files of the rom are installed on the sd card as well(some) so yeah, like the above user said, invest in a class 4 sd card with a fairly high amount of memory.

try the link below, it could give you an idea

You will need an SD card anyhow as mentioned before. Not only for flashing it to Nand, also some ROMs needs an ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card. Specially when it's an EU device as yours might seems.
F.e.: I got an EU model and the great Energy ROM running - this needs a 1Gb ext(2 or 3) partition on the SD card!
-> It depends on the ROM of your choice.
Right now, I guess there is now ICS ROM with sense out there - or an I wrong?
I can definetly recommend the NRG ROM as this one runs really great. There is also a very good lashing instruction in its thread.
Good luck :good:

Ooh, ooh, me too!!
adil1508 said:
Ok. First of all, Nand is the better of the two. As your friend want to COMPLETELY remove winmo6.5 its better to use NAND. Currently there is no ICS sense rom but the sense gingerbread roms work very smoothly with all features working. So you may want to try that. And dont worry you can change language from german to english. You basically select english at the startup setup.
One more thing. Even when installing the NAND version of android you will need a sd-card. The rom is a .zip file which must be copied to the sd card and this rom will be installed on the phones internal memory hence: NAND.
Hope it helps
Feel free to ask but i suggest you search it first and read more, because clearly you are lacking information
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I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).

shaggydabbydo said:
I also want to completely remove winmo6.5 from my wife's stock UK HTC HD2 and put some form of Android OS on it so I can then get her Ovivo Mobile mobile connection to work (I'm not bothered about dual boot functionality). Could you quickly link to a guide you would recommend to do this ("Thanks" will always be given :good: ).
(Note: I had an HD2 once, and bricked it after 9 months of ownership with a dodgy radio, so I'm a bit once-bitten-twice-shy about doing it).
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Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.

Thanks
Nigeldg said:
Here is my favourite guide. It's incredibly simple. You should really search before posting though, it isn't difficult to find.
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Thanks (and "thanks" added). I did search [and read the "sticky") but there were lots and I got confused as to which one. I'll give the one you recommend a go (which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:

shaggydabbydo said:
(which incidentaly did not come up in my [brief] search. :good:
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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]

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Ah, you see, it shouldn't be [brief] but [thorough]
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Ah, but I would have been thoroughly confused with a thorough search, fortunatly I was only briefly confused .