Is there a network type hspa+ - Atrix 4G General

My network type says hspa and the icon on top says h+. Is there a network type of hspa+ or is that inclusive of the hspa label?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA

WiredPirate said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA
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you're freaking retarded, and wrong. Don't give a smartass wikipedia link if you don't know what you're talking about.
The atrix says Hspa+ whether it is on HSPA or HSPA+ or UMTS.
So HSPA+ does not mean you're getting Hspa+.
God I love At&T!

Techcruncher said:
you're freaking retarded, and wrong. Don't give a smartass wikipedia link if you don't know what you're talking about.
The atrix says Hspa+ whether it is on HSPA or HSPA+ or UMTS.
So HSPA+ does not mean you're getting Hspa+.
God I love At&T!
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The hspa+ wiki page is apropriate for a thread titled/asking "is there a network type hspa+?".
Your wrong. Depending what mods you, me, the op or any other Atrix user has done; the data symbols could be displayed correctly. The op didnt specify what his setup was and I didnt ASSuME. The info you offered may or may not apply to the op, the info i offered does.

Techcruncher said:
you're freaking retarded, and wrong. Don't give a smartass wikipedia link if you don't know what you're talking about.
The atrix says Hspa+ whether it is on HSPA or HSPA+ or UMTS.
So HSPA+ does not mean you're getting Hspa+.
God I love At&T!
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Sorry about being vague. I'm just running stock 83 on att. I was just wondering if under settings, about, status if there was actually an hspa+ network type or if when it says hspa that also means hspa+. Thanks for the answers. I did read the wiki page btw. Would be nice if it was a pure IP deployment. I wonder what circuits speeds they had going to the towers before backhaul update and after.
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Techcruncher said:
you're freaking retarded, and wrong. Don't give a smartass wikipedia link if you don't know what you're talking about.
The atrix says Hspa+ whether it is on HSPA or HSPA+ or UMTS.
So HSPA+ does not mean you're getting Hspa+.
God I love At&T!
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mine doesn't show the plus sign unless i'm in an area that actually has HSPA+. so for the most part it will show H or 3...

mine shows h+ or e....never seen h or 3g

thedawg03 said:
mine doesn't show the plus sign unless i'm in an area that actually has HSPA+. so for the most part it will show H or 3...
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I'm on O2-UK and All I get is G, E, or H+. There is no HSPA+ here, just GPRS, EDGE, UTMS and HDSPA at the moment.

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What's Your 4g Data Speed?

Hi all
After seeing so many people with their speed tests posted as their sigs, I was curious as to what everyone's average speed was.
So if you want to participate in this thread, go on mobilespeedtest dot com from your phone, run a 7MB test using your 4G data connection, and post your results here. Post your location if you like as well, I'm curious to see what people get.
Or as michael2041 suggested, you can also use the Speedtest.net app if you'd like. Anything that's optimized for mobile devices and can give you an image to post up is free game.
Please don't cheat, this isn't a competition. This is just a fun thread for people to contribute to
Here's my results with T-Mobile in NYC.
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My highest results were like 29,000ish & my lowest was around 23,000.
that website is accurate. the best one is the speedtest.net app
See my signature..highest i got was 11mbps tethered
michael2041 said:
that website is accurate. the best one is the speedtest.net app
See my signature..highest i got was 11mbps tethered
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Cool, thanks for the suggestion. I'll add that to the OP as an alternative.
Highest I've gotten was 6.69mbps, I just got throttled and I can't go past 0.07mbps D:
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Oops sorry, I meant the mobilespeedtest site is inaccurate. The phone has a max of 14.4mbps, so i dont think your reaching 26.4mbps
Wow, the best I got was 4.55 Mbps
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20.4Mbps from mobilespeedtest.com and...
Best I've gotten:
I don't know what my 4G speed is yet.
T-Mobile doesn't have 4G. They have a beefed up variant of 3G.
neidlinger said:
I don't know what my 4G speed is yet.
T-Mobile doesn't have 4G. They have a beefed up variant of 3G.
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Not according to the agency that assigned the term 4g. Your smarter than that statment
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Not according to the agency that assigned the term 4g. Your smarter than that statment
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- okay i hear ya
the term xG, comes from the 1st Generation, 2nd Generation and so on. HSPA is the 3rd Generation. So wouldn't that mean HSAP+ is variant of HSPA. so it would still place it in the 3G bracket.
neidlinger said:
- okay i hear ya
the term xG, comes from the 1st Generation, 2nd Generation and so on. HSPA is the 3rd Generation. So wouldn't that mean HSAP+ is variant of HSPA. so it would still place it in the 3G bracket.
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If that is true has why is wimax consider 4g when it was invented in 2001 long before 3g in 2008?
To correct you 4g has to do with theoretical download speeds not the generation of technology. Hence, why both wimax and hspa+ are considered 4g
mark manning said:
If that is true has why is wimax consider 4g when it was invented in 2001 long before 3g in 2008?
To correct you 4g has to do with theoretical download speeds not the generation of technology. Hence, why both wimax and hspa+ are considered 4g
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I was told something completely different by a T-mo rep.
I was told that each generation has to meet 2 pieces of criteria. 1) has to be a updated hardware/software package then the previous version and 2) it has to meet a certain theoretical download speeds requirement.
Wi-Max is a updated software/hardware package then what sprint used prior to it. So they could call it the 4th Generation of Data transfer. Where as it didn't meet the specs of the download speed. I don't know how they got to use that name legally.
And didn't the counsel downgrade their standards to meet what Sprint and T-Mobile were producing with Wi-Max and HSPA+?
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I was told something completely different by a T-mo rep.
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to be considered a 4g the technology has to be able to achieve 100 mbit/sec download, which hspa+ is capable of.
Your mistake was listening to a tmobile rep lol
neidlinger said:
I was told that each generation has to meet 2 pieces of criteria. 1) has to be a updated hardware/software package then the previous version and 2) it has to meet a certain theoretical download speeds requirement.
Wi-Max is a updated software/hardware package then what sprint used prior to it. So they could call it the 4th Generation of Data transfer. Where as it didn't meet the specs of the download speed. I don't know how they got to use that name legally.
And didn't the counsel downgrade their standards to meet what Sprint and T-Mobile were producing with Wi-Max and HSPA+?
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1.Well hspa+ is an update both in software and a firmware update at the towers and it meets their standard
2.Im not sure either
3. No they downgraded it to include all of them, LTE wasn't considered 4g either
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/
Here is my result from speedtest
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@mark.....which are u kidding Boone has 4 g yet no phone out are 100mbit capable ....not yet all four carriers should be sued for misleading
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Atrix 3g

Just a question , i searched the forum and nothing. In Brazil, we got exactly the same phone as atrix 4g, except the fact it is 3g only. even the model is the same (mb860).
Someone tested, or know if there would be a problem flashing the 4g roms?
infestedd said:
Just a question , i searched the forum and nothing. In Brazil, we got exactly the same phone as atrix 4g, except the fact it is 3g only. even the model is the same (mb860).
Someone tested, or know if there would be a problem flashing the 4g roms?
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"4G" is just a marketing ploy used by Att, the phone is not really 4G (LTE).
lol good to know, at least i know its the same phone. I want gta 3 on it asap! ^^
infestedd said:
lol good to know, at least i know its the same phone. I want gta 3 on it asap! ^^
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Yup GTA3 on the Atrix is gonna be sweeeeeet!
cant wait \o/
Is there (or is it possible) any way to enable 4g on this phone? Does att even have 4g networks or is it simply this "3g hspa+ with enhanced backhaul" crap. I'm happy with the speeds, just wondering.
ar31791 said:
Is there (or is it possible) any way to enable 4g on this phone? Does att even have 4g networks or is it simply this "3g hspa+ with enhanced backhaul" crap. I'm happy with the speeds, just wondering.
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Here ya go.http://searchengineland.com/guide/how-to-use-google-to-search
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ar31791 said:
Is there (or is it possible) any way to enable 4g on this phone? Does att even have 4g networks or is it simply this "3g hspa+ with enhanced backhaul" crap. I'm happy with the speeds, just wondering.
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I believe I read Att expects to have an LTE network by 2013 lol.
Can I install a retail brazil in a No Barzilian phone?
Greatings
gustrick said:
Can I install a retail brazil in a No Barzilian phone?
Greatings
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you'll have to go to Barzil and find out...
WiredPirate said:
I believe I read Att expects to have an LTE network by 2013 lol.
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Lol wow. I mean its not that big of a deal to me, my phone's internet speeds are generally as fast or faster than my cable connection at home. But when other networks already have real 4g, its a bit worrying to see one of the largest carriers not have it yet. By 2013 we could have 6g though. lmao.
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ar31791 said:
Lol wow. I mean its not that big of a deal to me, my phone's internet speeds are generally as fast or faster than my cable connection at home. But when other networks already have real 4g, its a bit worrying to see one of the largest carriers not have it yet. By 2013 we could have 6g though. lmao.
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HSPA+ (what we have now) is still considered a 4G network, and AT&T has recently begun to roll out their LTE network in major cities (http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/08/atandts-4g-lte-network-is-live-in-san-francisco/ for example)
can't really blame AT&T for advertising HSPA+ as 4G when it's technically part of the whole 4G terminology though.
Ah ok. Yeah the speeds seem comparable, and they do make it clear if you read about it on their site. I didn't know hspa+ was technically 4g so thanks for that info.
Is the atrix compatible with LTE as is?
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Alcapone263 said:
HSPA+ (what we have now) is still considered a 4G network
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Only because there was/is no 4G standard so Att just called it 4G and who is anybody that is not Att to say otherwise? If Att called a bottle of water 4G who would be able to disprove it? 4G IS NOT created equal, it needs to be better standardized and regulated..
ar31791 said:
Is the atrix compatible with LTE as is?
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Nope!
WiredPirate said:
Nope!
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What changes are required to receive 4g? Would it just be a firmware upgrade or is there hardware incompatibility?
ar31791 said:
What changes are required to receive 4g? Would it just be a firmware upgrade or is there hardware incompatibility?
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Hardware, unfortunately.
WiredPirate said:
I believe I read Att expects to have an LTE network by 2013 lol.
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AT&T already has LTE up and running in Phoenix.
BGR tested it already and gets 40+Mbps download speeds.
Now to wait for a decent LTE phone to get released for AT&T.
rjohnstone said:
AT&T already has LTE up and running in Phoenix.
BGR tested it already and gets 40+Mbps download speeds.
Now to wait for a decent LTE phone to get released for AT&T.
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Oh wow. Yeah that's quite a bit better than what I'm getting on the current HSPA+ network here. haha. I do feel greedy though when I say "I WANT FASTER" when I can already browse the internet on my phone as fast as I can on my cable connection at home. xD

Universal 3G Roaming coming in H1 2012?

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This map describing direct connect service seems to imply that future roaming coverage will be EVDO after network vision. So, no more fighting Sprint for the 111x PRLs any more.
Huh? I don't see the connection between Direct Connect and univeral roaming. All I see is that Sprint is transitioning Direct Connect (push to talk) from the old Nextel Frequencies to the Sprint frequencies as part of Network Vision. What am I missing here?

			
				
They have no plans to open the floodgates of complete 3g roaming to everyone. They want you to hate to use data while roaming for a reason.
lynyrd65 said:
This map describing direct connect service seems to imply that future roaming coverage will be EVDO after network vision. So, no more fighting Sprint for the 111x PRLs any more.
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I didn't have to fight to get that prl .. Have to say tho, this prl has prolonged my service with sprint as I'm on the brink of switching to Verizon
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Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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As I read that underlined passage, they are speaking of the ability use Direct-connect while roaming and stating that the shaded areas of the map include roaming and non-EvDo areas. I still don't see anything about providing full 3G while roaming.
starskyrob said:
Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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Don't have the link around but google for 11115.zip and I am sure you will find it.
starskyrob said:
Any chance of posting a 111xx prl?
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Check my sig.
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poit said:
As I read that underlined passage, they are speaking if the ability use Direct-connect while roaming and stating that the shaded areas of the map include roaming and non-EvDo areas. I still don't see anything about providing full 3G while roaming.
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I hypothesize that direct connect requires EV-DO for a couple of reasons.
First, Sprint's current direct connect map only includes areas served by native Sprint EV-DO. Areas with native 1xRTT Sprint coverage are excluded from direct connect coverage. I suspect Alltel EV-DO roaming areas can support direct connect however Sprint is looking to win more favorable roaming agreements before they allow that.
The second clue is the direct connect apps that were referred to at the Network Vision Strategy update in October. If any android phone can use direct connect through an app, an IP-based implementation would make the most sense.
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It was stated before that the new direct connect phones would even work when 1x roaming.
digiblur said:
It was stated before that the new direct connect phones would even work when 1x roaming.
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Where did you read that?
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PRL 11115.
For those of you who want the latest PRL 11115 here you go and Happy New Year.

T-Mobile Speed Test (unlimited International data roaming)

So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
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So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.
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So I haven't seen a thread about this yet. Just want to start a thread to keep some interesting data of speeds when using your free unlimited International data roaming.
I'll start with the first screenshot of my speedtest in Taipei, Taiwan. Roaming was fine and as soon as we landed, the text came welcoming us to Taipei on T-Mobile roaming.
So far I've been able to make a clear voip call through an messenger app called LINE.
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds
0ri0n said:
Thats comparable to Sprint's average speed in the US. Nice!
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that is actually a bit better than sprint's national average speeds
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LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
twe90kid said:
LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.
Here is my speedtest in Cusco, Peru. So far I done about 1.5gb of roaming on the free data.
NOVA speed for reference
twe90kid said:
LOL, T-Mobile advertise this as a capped 2G speed.
Connection seems like it's always been on 3G.
Also I came over from Sprint and I do know the feeling with Sprint Data sucks ass.
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neonsector said:
same thing here, I was with sprint for over 10 years, I got fed up with the fake promises of this amazing 4g network they are building etc.
They finally got 4g here in Tucson, but they having problems with some spectrum that penetrates through buildings because of how close the border to mexico is, so we have half way decent 4g outdoors but no signal at all indoors.
And they are saying they will not be allowed to use that where I live for years to come, so its pretty worthless to be on sprint.
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Same story here! Switched to T-Mobile here in DC Metro area after not being able to connect to 4G inside the buildings on the lower floors. Also, no 4G inside my condo on the 3rd floor. It was just so incredibly annoying. The only thing I miss is a more reliable connection inside metro stations.
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NOVA speed for reference
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NOVA? Where is this?
I wonder why your unrestricted and gettin full LTE.
This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.
KEHT said:
This is what I get in the middle of DC, kinda weird.
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Please read the thread. We're sharing data info for overseas. This is for "unlimited international data".
This thread is pointless. You can connect to whatever network is available (3G, 4G... maybe even LTE) but it WILL cap your speeds to what you're seeing unless you pay for high speed data passes.
This is the same speed I got in Malaysia and Singapore. Its good for email and Whatsapp and GPS. Not good for youtube. Its better than nothing! Long live T-mobile and thank you!

Play in the states--no LTE?

Anyone else have a Play in the US? Do you have LTE? I don't. My download is <1.0mbps
I'm on T-Mobile, and have verified the APN settings listed on T-Mo's website (I can't post links due to my n00bness).
It says I'm on band 4, which I believe is an LTE band, but I haven't gotten LTE since I received it. My tablet gets full LTE in the same locations.
Do you have the European or Canadian version?
Mexican. Unlocked edition via motomaker. It functions, I just don't have LTE.
I'm betting this will mean I won't be able to make calls on B12, either.
This phone should be 100% compatible with Tmo
The XT1563 SS & the XT1563 DS both have the exact same bands (LTE) and should work all over North & South America.
Tmo uses AWS 1700/2100 band 4 for LTE as well as band 12 (700) which the Moto X Play XT1563 has.
Silly question - Did you select LTE as the preferred network? under network settings, otherwise it probably won't hook up to LTE just go 3G.
priapism said:
Anyone else have a Play in the US? Do you have LTE? I don't. My download is <1.0mbps
I'm on T-Mobile, and have verified the APN settings listed on T-Mo's website (I can't post links due to my n00bness).
It says I'm on band 4, which I believe is an LTE band, but I haven't gotten LTE since I received it. My tablet gets full LTE in the same locations.
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you dont have lte on your area.
Jaocagomez said:
you dont have lte on your area.
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He said his tablet gets lte in the exact same location.
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priapism said:
Mexican. Unlocked edition via motomaker. It functions, I just don't have LTE.
I'm betting this will mean I won't be able to make calls on B12, either.
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Do you test this by speed, or simply looking for it to say lte? Try doing a speed test.
I did a speed test and got <1mbps down.
My 1st gen moto x gets LTE here. I drove for 30 miles watching the new one and it never got LTE.
Preferred network type only gives the option of 2g/3g/4g, I don't see LTE listed.
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manually put the APN settings of TMO
Okay, this *may* be a false alarm. I went into the "*#*#4636#*#*" settings page, and it shows LTE. Even though the menu bar shows "4g" (which in the past meant HSPA+ on my T-mo stuff), the internal page showed LTE.
I did the same speedtest on my tablet which shows LTE and it's showing comparable (slow) speeds. I'm always on wi-fi here so I never noticed!
I'll run a speed test next time I'm down in the valley where reception is really good and see what's up.
Just got mine today, I'm on cricket and getting LTE. The phone shows 4G in the status bar but connection details shows LTE
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... Even though the menu bar shows "4g" (which in the past meant HSPA+ on my T-mo stuff), the internal page showed LTE. ....
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TMO is the source of your confusion. While the rest of the world equates 4G with LTE, TMO's nasty marketing relabeled HSPA+ (still 3G elsewhere) as such.
Yeah I've never heard of HSPA+ referred to as 4G. In the UK LTE is just called 4G.
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