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Can we please sign up for official beta testing froyo, we don't want cash just a free device every 2 years.
Lets make it official, sign on if you would like to be included
Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
Its cheap labour as it is
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tbh i would test if for lot less NOW!
ten chars!!!
Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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I'll be more than happy to try out any alpha & beta releases of any Android products
just being able to play with the latest and greatest is more than enough joy for me
Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)
I would be very interested in testing for free devices
Add me to the list.
I'd love to do some beta testing!!!
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Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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yeah, samsung calls them customers
Would be cool of this came off, count me in.
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안녕하세요 삼성. 저도 Beta 시험하고싶습니다. 많은 도움이될겁니다. Hi Samsung, I'd love to beta test any of your programs for the Galaxy S. I have the Vibrant from T-Mo. Thanks~
hope this works typed in Korean as well haha..
I'd test my brains out if you ask me. Count me in too
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You can definitely count me in
alpha testing Android 3.0 is also ok
I'm sure plenty of people around here would be interested in such a scheme, myself included! As to whether it would come to pass..
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Seriously? Please? I think this thread needs a pretty epic dose of it.
It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
The only people who look through XDA are those interested in modding and installing custom firmwares anyway, so regular consumers would gain the benefit of us testing the stuff out without them having to be aware of it.
Plus, one of the deciding factors of many enthusiasts when buying a new Android phone is the dev community and support, so you can guarantee they would gain at least a few more sales from those interested.
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It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
[....].
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That will make them way too vurnerable and the benefits will never justify the costs. The game they play is how to make as much as profit as one can. From that perspective things are good if and only if the sales figures are good. So, for them, sales figures are all the feedback they need
If they did do such a scheme, it would be in Korea.
Just asking for a little help here, and I'd be grossly disappointed and shocked if the XDA community hasn't figured this one out by now. Apparently many people have been unable to download the beta version of the Weatherbug App for Android Tablets. And though Weatherbug claims (on their website) that this beta is ready for us to download and enjoy, and even though the Market has it and is supposedly ready for download, the Market will not recognize our tablets as being compatible. HOWEVER, I'd be more than willing to bet my precious Xoom that someone on here has already found the apk of this beta app, and if so I'm hoping that they'd be able to post it, or a link to it, ASAP. Think of me what you wish, but this is by far the app that I'd been looking forward to the most with my Xoom, as an avid weather nut. I'm fully confident that someone in the XDA community has an answer to this already. Thanks!!!
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Just asking for a little help here, and I'd be grossly disappointed and shocked if the XDA community hasn't figured this one out by now. Apparently many people have been unable to download the beta version of the Weatherbug App for Android Tablets. And though Weatherbug claims (on their website) that this beta is ready for us to download and enjoy, and even though the Market has it and is supposedly ready for download, the Market will not recognize our tablets as being compatible. HOWEVER, I'd be more than willing to bet my precious Xoom that someone on here has already found the apk of this beta app, and if so I'm hoping that they'd be able to post it, or a link to it, ASAP. Think of me what you wish, but this is by far the app that I'd been looking forward to the most with my Xoom, as an avid weather nut. I'm fully confident that someone in the XDA community has an answer to this already. Thanks!!!
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LOL.. I hear you but you should have posted this in the Apps section.
keitht said:
LOL.. I hear you but you should have posted this in the Apps section.
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Yeah I am aware of this, but I figured I'd still post it here as I knew it would get more exposure here. I fully expected it would get moved, but in the mean time more people will see it here than in the Apps section
Visit Groubal and sign the petition: http://www.groubal.com/motorola-lockedencrypted-bootloader-policy/
Retweet: http://twitter.com/#!/ibproud/status/52265679990169600
New Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Unlock-Motorola/115620798518187
UPDATE (14th June 2011):
We are now over the 10,000 mark.
I have now spoken with Motorola and gotten confirmation that Motorola plan to unlock every device that will get an update in the second half of this year. This will include maintenance & firmware updates, but is still subject to Carrier approval.
The promising sign is that Verizon has already allowed Motorola to unlock a device on their network, the Xoom, which utilizes the unlockable/re-lockable model that Motorola intends on using across their devices.
I'm still looking to work with Motorola in the coming months to help see if we can make this a smooth process for Motorola and the community.
You can read the article here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-u...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+ausdroid+(Ausdroid)
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
UPDATE (26th April 2011):
We are now at ~8,700 mark.
Motorola has now responded to me, stating that they are looking at unlocking bootloaders across their devices late 2011.
The article for the story can be found here:
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/#more-8184
We're still seeking clarity around whether this will be for current devices or only future devices.
I couldn't have gotten this far without the support of everyone here. You guys and girls have been a huge support and help me turn this snowball into a wrecking ball.
Please share this where you can and keep it alive. I will continue to work with Motorola to see if we can get this thing torn wide open.
Previous Update (4th April 2011):
We are now at ~7600 mark.
We're starting to slow down from our initial boom, so I have now set up a Facebook page to see if we can wrangle in some supporters that don't use Twitter or XDA.
I will need your help getting this out there. So share the facebook page where you can.
I'm also looking to see if anyone is interested in helping me Moderate the page. Please PM if you are.
Original Post:
Hi All,
I have created a Groubal (online petition) to get a response from Motorola on it's bootloader policy.
>>This petition started for the Atrix, but I made sure that it was for Motorola's overall Bootloader Policy. I have reached 200 signatures in 2 weeks, but now believe it's time to expand this out of the Atrix space and into the larger Motorola Dev community.
If this much effort was put into ROM tweaking we wouldn't need the bootloader unlocked.
rocko73 said:
If this much effort was put into ROM tweaking we wouldn't need the bootloader unlocked.
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Well, since my development skill is negligible (i'm more of an advanced user), I thought I'd contribute the only way I knew how.
Sorry, crappy day, shouldn't have posted it. I too wish they would listen to the masses.
Signed!
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Signed!
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Cheers, love the signature for your above post.
What would be the possibility of creating an app like [email protected] that can share the load and distribute a brute force hacking attempt?
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deathbysnoosnoo said:
What would be the possibility of creating an app like [email protected] that can share the load and distribute a brute force having attempt?
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Could happen, but the 2 key Devs on the Atrix at the moment are looking at bypassing rather than breaking the bootloader.
They have both admitted to not knowing much about Cryptography.
You do know that there about half a dozen of these petitions already circulating.
They get some steam everytime there is an 'event' surrounding the bootloader, and then they die out just as quickly.
Rather than repeating the cycle, how about 'SEARCHING' for one of the other threads/petitions, and breathe some life into it.
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
You do know that there about half a dozen of these petitions already circulating.
They get some steam everytime there is an 'event' surrounding the bootloader, and then they die out just as quickly.
Rather than repeating the cycle, how about 'SEARCHING' for one of the other threads/petitions, and breathe some life into it.
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I appreciate the feedback. I did make sure to reference the other significant petition in the Droid X forum, unfortunately the petition on the other one is through an outdated site and Groubal isn't just a petition, once enough interest has been shown for a particular complaint, they have a group that will personally get involved.
Not sure how effective it will be, just thought it was a good approach.
SIGNED! We shall prevail!
Wanna bet?
Thanks for starting this. Signed.
Signed. it is a shame motorola tried so hard to secure something rather than improve it to its fullest potential.
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Wanna bet?
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Lol no not really.
mattmartin77 said:
Signed. it is a shame motorola tried so hard to secure something rather than improve it to its fullest potential.
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Agreed.
I don't care if I have to sign a legal release accepting that my phone is no longer covered under warranty, just as long as I can unlock my phone.
Exactly. Thus chalk up another signature.
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Any idea how many signatures we would need to get some attention?
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Any idea how many signatures we would need to get some attention?
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I think around the 1000 mark, Groubal themselves will get involved. If you look at their home page, you will see that the 2 leading Groubals on there marked "Company Response" had around 1100.
AT&T even committed to the HSUPA fix in April. Not sure how much of that was a direct result of Groubal, but it's all very promising.
That's why I strongly encourage everyone to share this as much as they can.
Even if you're cynical, you spend just as much time discounting this than spreading it.
Consider all the other forums and social mediums you use and get it out there.
Ok guys, we now have nearly 800 signatures, nearly 500 in one night alone.
Keep up the great work everyone, this wouldn't be going anywhere without your support.
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Welcome and thank you for agreeing to participate in our pre-release* for the AT&T MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G.
As part of your acceptance into this trial you've agreed not to distribute the software or any information(emails, comments in private areas, private messages.) received in this trial to the greater public, including public areas of our forums and other independent communities such as Facebook or Twitter. All participation will occur in a private area of Motorola Owners' Forum. In the next day you will receive a pop-up message on your phone that will mark the beginning of the software pre-release test. This email contains a link to a private area where you will provide feedback about the upgrade process itself and also your experiences post-update. It's best to stay out of the public areas through the duration of the test.
I did as well
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I'm in - should I unroot here or what?
lol...excited there Lancer? There is actually a whole thread in the General section about this, along with multiple people posting their excitement.
What is this snifty pre-release software? How do I sign up?
Yeah, the first thing you should do is post the software updates on this forum so the devs can get to work.
I'm planning on giving it a go. About the only thing rooting for me is for is putting different sound files in the phone (I sideloaded some apps but they're not critical for daily use so I can go without them until root is re-enabled, assuming it's lost).
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Welcome and thank you for agreeing to participate in our pre-release* for the AT&T MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G.
As part of your acceptance into this trial you've agreed not to distribute the software or any information(emails, comments in private areas, private messages.) received in this trial to the greater public, including public areas of our forums and other independent communities such as Facebook or Twitter. All participation will occur in a private area of Motorola Owners' Forum. In the next day you will receive a pop-up message on your phone that will mark the beginning of the software pre-release test. This email contains a link to a private area where you will provide feedback about the upgrade process itself and also your experiences post-update. It's best to stay out of the public areas through the duration of the test.
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....way to violate the NDA minutes after getting accepted. You should delete this thread IMMEDIATELY.
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Yeah, the first thing you should do is post the software updates on this forum so the devs can get to work.
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Yeah, violate the NDA..... good idea... *facepalm*
Aka everyone who was accepted needs to be running alogcat to snag the update link being sent.
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Yeah, the first thing you should do is post the software updates on this forum so the devs can get to work.
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But that's where alogcat comes in. Once we get the update.zip location it can be downloaded onto a computer most likely. That's how the N1 updates and NS updates were snagged so fast.
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They are going to be OTA Updates only......
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I got invited too....running gingerblur will I get the notification or should I flash back to stock first?
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LancerV said:
Welcome and thank you for agreeing to participate in our pre-release* for the AT&T MOTOROLA ATRIX 4G.
As part of your acceptance into this trial you've agreed not to distribute the software or any information(emails, comments in private areas, private messages.) received in this trial to the greater public, including public areas of our forums and other independent communities such as Facebook or Twitter. All participation will occur in a private area of Motorola Owners' Forum. In the next day you will receive a pop-up message on your phone that will mark the beginning of the software pre-release test. This email contains a link to a private area where you will provide feedback about the upgrade process itself and also your experiences post-update. It's best to stay out of the public areas through the duration of the test.
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+1 baby got my email like an hour ago
Looks like it's essentially going to update to a revision similar to the original leaked sbf file.
Yea it doesn't violate the NRA as I haven't posted any info about the update itself
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....way to violate the NDA minutes after getting accepted. You should delete this thread IMMEDIATELY.
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just an incremental with small "fixes". Prob just to fix the stuff we already mod'd heh. unless it says 2.3.x- i say, "meh"
It's heeeerrree
So no one has answered the first question, if I super one click rooted and then Arooted, and also did the Webtop mod, what are the steps to get to a clean system?
Do I need to undo the Super One Click?
I know to run "Unroot", but that's about all.
I also have titanium backup running.
Help?
Im wondering if we can update if we are currently running GingerBlur
I got excepted too, and why is this in the develpment thread?
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So no one has answered the first question, if I super one click rooted and then Arooted, and also did the Webtop mod, what are the steps to get to a clean system?
Do I need to undo the Super One Click?
I know to run "Unroot", but that's about all.
I also have titanium backup running.
Help?
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There's a feature on forums, it's called search. Now, to help you out...
http://tinyurl.com/6crvl6l
there you go....
I have posted a new thread at Sony Mobile Support requesting they support 2011 devices with KitKat, as apparently they announced they will update 2012 devices to kitkat.
Or, if Sony will not support the 2011 devices as they are beyond 18 months old, they should release the sources and let the dev community go to town.
Here is the thread at Sony Mobile Support, I would like all users to just take two minutes and voice your feedback in encouraging Sony to either update our PLAY or better yet, release all sources so that devs may do updates such as KitKat 4.4 to our PLAY.
Sony Mobile Support Thread:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...Xperia-devices-Xperia-PLAY/m-p/430889#U430889
Thank you and please show your support through the link above, I have informed Sony of this thread but if you all can please kindly post your comments on the thread above. If Sony doesnt see the comments of encouragement then they wont see it as worth it, in either way.
Edit - I am leaning towards Sony releasing sources as this will cost them nothing or a lot less then paying staff to make the 4.4 software upgrade and beta test it. Sources would be a lot more feasible, plus it would allow everyone to benefit with full access to our PLAY.
EDIT 2 - From Big_Smile, he made a very good suggestion to better our chances:
"Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone."
Thank you Big_Smile.
I forgot to add a Poll for this thread, any chance to still add it? I dont see it as an option.. after I made the first post.
Edit - Got the POLL Running
One more thing:
If everyone can select to vote to have this thread detailed on XDA Portal to gain attention that would great. See attached photo if you are unsure how to vote this thread on XDA Portal.
I have contributed to the thread. I don't think it will do anything, but I think everyone should try.
It only takes a second (and you can login in with Gmail and Facebook, so you don't even need to set up an account).
You never know, if Sony gets a lot of requests, they will take action.
Also, post your message here as well:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/contact-form/Other/en_GB/
Again, it probably won't do anything but it is worth a try and will only take a minute. Companies like Sony are always trying to find ways to show that they listen (as it earns them good publicity).
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Also, it would be a good idea to post your messages on Sundar Pichai's Google plus as he is the head of Google Android.
In order to use Android with Google services, manufactures have to follow certain rules that Google makes.
We should ask Sundar Pichai to compel manufacturers to release source files for older devices.
You can see my post asking him to do this here:
https://plus.google.com/116651741222993143554/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
(I've used my name Madhu Sharma).
If you agree, please +1 my comment but also post your own comment as well.
Unlike contacting Sony, this probably does have a good chance of becoming a reality if lots of people participate. Google do tend to listen and if it happened, they would make more money as more people would have access to their services.
Again, it only takes a few minutes to participate and this really could make a difference for everyone.
i doubt they will support it they wont support my xperia t which is 1.5ghz snapdragon s4 and 1gb of ram. this was their last 2012 flagship so they won't update any 2012 devices probably only 2013
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At Big_Smile, that is an excellent idea and would stand a better chance then contacting Sony head on. I will add your suggestion to post 1 soon as I have a chance
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Per Big_Smile's link to Sundar Pichai, I have added the following to his, please see attached.
Link to:
https://plus.google.com/+SundarPichai/posts/74nXKEeeMRx
Edit - Added this thread to my Google+ post reply to Big_Smile.
I think another good idea would to be raise this issue on "This Week in Google" (TWiG).
TWiG is a podcast about Google & Android, that is often viewed by people who work at Google.
I have made a post on the TWiG Google Plus Community:
https://plus.google.com/115434784269286841659/posts/4GQVrDtLhTV
If you agree with what I have written, please +1 it and add your own comments and ideas.
I think if the post got around 50 - 100 +1s, there's a good chance someone from the show might notice it and so might consider discuss it on the next episode.
Again, it's a long shot, but it would only take a few minutes to contribute and it could stand a good chance of making 4.4 available for not just the Xperia Play, but many other older phones. As I've discussed in my Plus post, this could help a lot of people (and not just Play users).
Unlike other companies, Google does listen, so if we raise this issue in lots of places, there's a good chance that they might act on it.
good ! waiting for ur news
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I want ask all people, that want to post SUBJ request without stupid words to update firmwares for phones. Just ask to open ALL sources, so community can do all work.
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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JunDavis said:
I'm all for the sources but telling them to update a very outdated phone is a little much.
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Hence thatz why I am hoping for sources.
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Do you think we should start a petition on change.org @OP?
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Why ya keep asking for upgrade? IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Understand this already. Only thing, that *may* hapeen - opening sources of GB drivrs. Thats enough for communities of all old phones, so all people must focus on it, not on asking for upgrade, that, as said, WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
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Y u gotta be so negative? You never know
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This is sony we are talking about who are the second worst manufacturer to give updates (lg is worst) they probably won't update their 2012 devices so what makes you think they will update the play.
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
Just like sony wouldn't give ics to the play yet everyone asked for it
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There's nothing wrong with trying. YOU'LL NEVER KNOW THE ANSWER UNLESS YOU TRY. So all of you negas, go somewhere else. You're of no use here.
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We are not negative, we are only realistic, it is absurd to think that a company will release an update (LOL) or the source code (double LOL) for a device of 2 years ago, it is against their interest.
BTW don't worry, probably I will go away, if I earn sufficient money to change both my laptop and the phone I will go away from the xplay this Christmas, if not sorry but this nega will remain for another year
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Even if they are unlikely to listen, it only takes 2 minutes max to ask them, so it's worth a try. Anyone can spare 2 minutes.
Also, I think the best strategy is to ask Google to force manufacturers to release source code, as they have a financial incentive to do so (as it will further their interests of making Android less fragmented, easier to develop for and making the latest Google Play apps available to all).