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Thinking of switching to Sprint this summer, is the Evo Shift 4G still worth getting?

I have a Captivate on ATT right now, but when I turn 18 on June 24th, I can switch to sprint and get unlimited everything for $30 a month from my work. The Evo Shift 4G has been catching my eye lately. Is it still worth getting? I really want a phone with a physical keyboard and this one has a very nice keyboard.

as far as phones with keyboards, then yea, it's by far your best option. although overall, i'd say the new phones coming out (albeit sans keyboard) would be better.
at least the evo 3d anyway.

Phone needs to have a physical keyboard. The Epic 4G has a terrible keyboard, and quite frankly, I'd rather not have another Samsung phone, although I do like my Captivate a lot.

I love my Shift. Works great for me and I love how fast it is. If you have to pay for it, Radioshack seems to have the lowest prices for it.

$30 a month, unlimited everything, and an EVO Shift4G. Where do I sign up. As far as the Shift, I don't have anything bad to say. Phone is ubber fast out of the box. Plus it can be OC'd to crazy numbers. Stable. Nice themes. Physical keyboard. Good support for a fairly new phone. I say go for the Shift.

personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...

yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
what else do you want? what are we lacking?

riggsandroid said:
how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
what else do you want? what are we lacking?
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I was thinking the same.. I'm grateful with what we have!!

yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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The Captivate has far too many roms. I'm not the kind of person that flashes a new rom every few days or so, I typically flash one every one-two months, so number of roms available does not matter to me as long as CM is available for it, or at least a rom based on stock that's good.

My whole family has shifts! I love it! Even more so that I installed miui rom on it!

Love my shift...
I have had my shift for several days now and am very pleased with it. I was thinking about the normal EVO 4g , but i went with the shift instead. i am glad i did i think the EVO 4g is just a bit to big to be piratical. I love the keyboard and do not find it slow. the only thing i find bad is the limited on board storage. as of now i am not planing on rooting my phone or putting a separate ROM on it.

You forgot to mention that MIUI is available. I agree with the others that say the shift is more than capable. I love mine and it keeps up with the "big" boys in any real world tasks.
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yokken said:
personally if i were you, i wouldn't get the shift. i'd wait for another good HW keyboard phone on sprint. the shift's ROM development sucks, almost nothing here. wait for something more supported by devs...
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When you say "almost nothing here" , whay do you mean? The phones only been out since January. We have plenty of choices as far as Roms go. You have more than enough apps. The prossesor more than keeps up with the newer phones. Hell I even start my car with mine . So what exactly do you mean?
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riggsandroid said:
how many different versions of the same rom do you want? we have 5-6 or sense roms, 3-4 aosp based roms.
what else do you want? what are we lacking?
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Liquid Acer would be sweet, loved it on my EVO. CJ_

If you need a keyboard, then the EVO Shift is the way to go. My wife has one and I occasionally have to use it. The physical keyboard is awesome for typing long emails, working in terminals, internet forum posts, etc.
While I like my EVO for the larger screen, when I have to type the 300 word email while in a meeting, I wish I had her phone...

Alright, I'm going to get one of these next month. I like the fact that the phone isn't huge like the Captivate. I don't play games or watch videos on my phone, so a large screen isn't a necessity. The keyboard felt nice when I played with it, haven't gotten to play with an actual Shift yet though.

corybucher said:
Liquid Acer would be sweet, loved it on my EVO. CJ_
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well played CJ_, well played.....

Good choice :$ . You won't regret it.
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LOVE!!!!!!

So...I've had my Nexus S 4G for 2 weeks now, and I have to say, the first few days I was having trouble justifying the off contract price of the phone, especially when my Epic was perfectly fine.....
Fast forward to the first week, I was really liking how well it fit in my pocket, not to mention the battery life stock, and the GPS lock in seconds...awesome.
I also decided to root and try CM7, and I've been running it for a week so far, and I'll say it's changed my mind, and I'm definitely keeping this phone now!
And the ONLY thing I missed from my epic was the camera button, and today fooling around with my Nexus, I found that in CM7 you can assign the volume buttons to take pictures, EFFIN AWESOME!
So, I'm in love!
That is all,
Chris

cm7 opens the phone up so much more. its awesome

You better try kush rom its almost the same but with out Tue adw I hate adw on roms
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i really need to learn how to Root this bad boy. I rooted my evo easily, but for some reason this scares me. I'm not good with command prompt.

Oh please!

cyaiphone said:
i really need to learn how to Root this bad boy. I rooted my evo easily, but for some reason this scares me. I'm not good with command prompt.
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Go for it. If you have any trouble, the reason we are all here is to help you. So just try and ask for help if you need it. If you don't get the help you need you can always PM me and I will help you.

really love cm, but i really wanted that 2.3.4 was completelly merged, really like gtalk video chat!!!

Yep.
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cm7 is awesome

Love !!!!
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cyaiphone said:
i really need to learn how to Root this bad boy. I rooted my evo easily, but for some reason this scares me. I'm not good with command prompt.
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As long as you got all the need it drivers and sdk you rooting procces should take 3-4 minutes
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cswee1932 said:
And the ONLY thing I missed from my epic was the camera button, and today fooling around with my Nexus, I found that in CM7 you can assign the volume buttons to take pictures, EFFIN AWESOME!
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noob question here: where exactly in CM7 do i go to change that? looked everywhere but couldn't find it ;(

plumed said:
noob question here: where exactly in CM7 do i go to change that? looked everywhere but couldn't find it ;(
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Launch the camera app and in menu go to advance settings
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Ive had the nexus s since launch back in dec. an while for the most part i love the phone i hate how its built my bezel, an everyone i know whos had the phone for awhile, is coming loose and creaks when u apply pressure to the side of the phone but everything else is great

i like cm7 too

Cm7 is awesome! I flashed with netarchy's kernel and getting great quadrants
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<3 CM7
SNS is fast and pretty now

cswee1932 said:
So...I've had my Nexus S 4G for 2 weeks now, and I have to say, the first few days I was having trouble justifying the off contract price of the phone, especially when my Epic was perfectly fine.....
Fast forward to the first week, I was really liking how well it fit in my pocket, not to mention the battery life stock, and the GPS lock in seconds...awesome.
I also decided to root and try CM7, and I've been running it for a week so far, and I'll say it's changed my mind, and I'm definitely keeping this phone now!
And the ONLY thing I missed from my epic was the camera button, and today fooling around with my Nexus, I found that in CM7 you can assign the volume buttons to take pictures, EFFIN AWESOME!
So, I'm in love!
That is all,
Chris
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So did the Sprint employees look at you funny when you bought it off contract for full retail?
I've always wondered what they think when enthusiasts come in and lay down half a grand on a phone... It's an expensive hobby.
I also came from the Epic... it's hard to tell they have the same hardware inside.
I don't see myself ever buying a non nexus device again..(here is hoping Sprint continues to play a role in the Nexus devices!!) Android is at it's best when it's running as Google intended. Not to mention the updates and development..
Anyways. Welcome glad you like it.

TheDub said:
So did the Sprint employees look at you funny when you bought it off contract for full retail?
I've always wondered what they think when enthusiasts come in and lay down half a grand on a phone... It's an expensive hobby.
I also came from the Epic... it's hard to tell they have the same hardware inside.
I don't see myself ever buying a non nexus device again..(here is hoping Sprint continues to play a role in the Nexus devices!!) Android is at it's best when it's running as Google intended. Not to mention the updates and development..
Anyways. Welcome glad you like it.
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I have bought 3 phones off contract now and it is expensive hobbie but then again smoking is expensive too ( I used to smoke a pack a day/ the was like 150$ at month ) so I don't regret it

TheDub said:
So did the Sprint employees look at you funny when you bought it off contract for full retail?
I've always wondered what they think when enthusiasts come in and lay down half a grand on a phone... It's an expensive hobby.
I also came from the Epic... it's hard to tell they have the same hardware inside.
I don't see myself ever buying a non nexus device again..(here is hoping Sprint continues to play a role in the Nexus devices!!) Android is at it's best when it's running as Google intended. Not to mention the updates and development..
Anyways. Welcome glad you like it.
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The sprint stores always seemed surprised. Best buy and the T-Mobile stores never blinked an eye. I've purchased 6 phones at full retail and only got an odd response once (from a Sprint employee).
Having gone from the Nexus One to this phone (and I'll buy the next Nexus phone as well) I hope it comes to Sprint. Otherwise I'll have to jump carriers again.
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HTC Evo Shift Vs Samsung Epic 4G *ROOTED*

So I'm positive everyone see's this question all the time. But they always judge it on the stock phones. Well I'm looking to get one of these phones, but to ROOT them. Which one do you believe I should get and why? I'm also looking into battery life even though buying an extended battery isn't a problem. Also which rom do you think is best for your pick? Thanks in advance.
Will be posting in both sides to get more answers

Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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Well seeing how the Epic community jumped on my question much faster, with more people ... Lol jk.
But any more suggestions people? Thanks in advance

Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone

westicle said:
Easy answer... look at the topics and responsees in both forums and decide which group you would rather deal with...
And then look at the rom and root options of both. HTC is on a whole nother level.
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This. And I own an Epic (my wife has the shift). I'd never trade my Epic in for anything, at least at this point, but yeah the Epic forum is full of complainers, trolls, and guys with tiny wangs (or so I assume with how they have to constantly act like king s**t in the forums all of the time). And shift has a ton more devs, plus working cm7. But the phone itself is sweet, and faster (in my opinion, with the right rom), and has an independent number row. And the screen is bigger and looks nicer. I could go on and on about differences, but I've gotta run for now.
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From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.

HTCotta said:
From everything I've heard, the CPU in the shift has the edge on the Epic, but the GPU in the Epic edges out the Shift. If battery life is important to you, I say hands down go with the Shift. I easily get a full day every day and my friend with an epic is always asking people for chargers, even changed all his backgrounds to black to save battery (doesn't save on LCD but on LED it does). He does everything he can and still struggles for a full day out of the thing. Now I speak from what he's told me, I've never owned an Epic myself. Overall I've been thrilled with the shift, does everything I ask of it with no lag and no complaints.
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I certainly had this issue on stock rom on the Epic. I couldn't even make it through a work shift without the battery dying. But custom roms on the Epic blow that out of the water. I now can go a whole day of moderate usage and still have around 30-40%. But I don't know, I'm guessing with a custom rom the Shift still kicks the Epic's ass battery-wise. My wife is running CM7 (which the Epic may not see for a looong time), and I don't ever see her reaching for a charger or complaining of the battery. And being of the female variety, she tends to use a lot of the live wallpapers, widgets, etc...

fifedogg said:
Do not get the Epic!!!!! I didnt like it as its made like ****. The shift is much faster and even my sister wishes she would have just gotten the EVO and shes not even a power user. HTC makes the best phones on the market and I will always be buying my phones from them.
Get the Shift, Root it, Install Shift Deck and enjoy an awesome phone
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The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$

curiousGeorge said:
The Shift is again unrootable
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How can it be unrootable "again"? If it was unrootable the first time, then how did we get it?
curiousGeorge said:
...all new ones will remain unrootable forever.
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Yes, you are absolutely right. The updated ROM from Sprint will never be rooted.
NEVER. EVER.
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?

x99percent said:
Has anyone tried to run an old Froyo RUU on a brand new Shift that came with Gingerbread?
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I've seen where a few people have tried the one zip ruu but the updated bootloader didn't recognize it.
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X99 was wondering that my self,gonna try it later tonite when the wife gets home.She uodated hers,I downloaded an ruu yesterday the .exe. I will report in the am
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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You need to take a breather my friend. The stock 2.3 will get rooted in time, just like the 2.2 did. "Unrootable forever" is just an ignorant statement. If all you're gonna do is rant and rave a bunch of misinformation, please keep the post to yourself.

Back on topic...
I have a shift and purchased the Epic for my wife.
The Epic display is nicer, and the epic actually feels lighter (and is?) Than my shift. It also has more keys on the keyboard.
However, on stock ROMs my shift seems faster and has better battery life. UI's are a very personal preference, but I much prefer the HTC sense and overall software stack vs Samsung's touchwiz. It just seems to work better.
I've beeen running custom ROMs on my shift and most of them work well. About ready to try a custom ROM on the Epic to see if it works better...
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curiousGeorge said:
The Shift now comes stock with Gingerbread from Sprint. There is no way to root it. You are SOL. I pulled all of my hair out when I figured this out.
Turns out Android (maybe not "Android", but the current ecosystem) sucks hard. Suckers like you and I come online and see threads and guides about rooting that simply won't ever work on our devices because they've been manufacturer updated. And sites like this don't seem to give a damn -- at least update the root "guide", mods.
Quite worthless. Don't fall for this BS. The Shift is again unrootable, just like almost all updated phones from Sprint. Chances are, with the devs having moved on or got lucky enough to have an old version of Android when they got theirs, all new ones will remain unrootable forever. #@(*$
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Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.

after the samsung moment debacle i will never own another samsung phone. to me the epic is a moment on steroids. its still a POS lol. glad i switched to the shift

prboy1969 said:
Yes, and man will never go to the moon. We will never be able to fly. Come on man .
PS. Don't knock the Site, or the Dev's. The work they do is because they want to, it's not an obligation.
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ive been very happy with both my shift and the dev community here (who have turned me from an ignorant n00b-lout into a root-user) and all those who have helped me try and solve my problems.
As for rooting gingersense, it will happen soon enough, just give the devs here some time.

My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.

Stuke00 said:
My wife has the Epic and I have the Shift 4G. I can't stand her phone, and she can't stand mine. Tho we both take our phone's off the charger in the morning and when we drive home, mine still is in the green where she has to use the car charger going home. Then again, neither of our phones are rooted. I have rooted her phone in the past, didn't seem to make much difference. Still running the crappy samsung software.
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Rooting in and of itself isn't going to make a damn bit of difference in battery life. It's what you do with the root that counts... lol, sounds like a phallic joke gone bad...
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Should I return Evo for Nexus S 4g?

So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?

kbshowtyme said:
So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?
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you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G

You got 30 days to return it so you could wait, there are some rumors that a few devs are close to getting root on the Evo 4, or just go ahead and take it back. It's really up to you. I liked the Nexus but the fact it didn't have a removable sd card makes me not like it, maybe thats a dumb reason but thats why I didn't like it.

rxc777 said:
you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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kbshowtyme said:
So I just bought the Evo Thursday unaware I can't root the phone. That was the main reason I bought it was to root it, but now it seems im screwed. I need help deciding should I get the Nexus s or keep the Evo, I did some research and the Nexus sounds great and I know it doesn't have a sd slot but it has 16gb built in. Im using a 8gb card and not planning on upgrading. So what should I do I hate a stock phone and most of my apps is for a rooted phone. What would you do?
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I have both, the NS4G is without a doubt better. There was a issue with the performance of the radio for some people, and that was a major gripe for some people that I think would stop be me from fully recommending but it's a getting updated to Android 2.3.5 with fixes to the radio on Monday.
It's waaaayyy too late to get the EVO 4G. The NS4G is half as old and the tech while slightly better/same (and in the case of the GPU, way more), will get STABLE updates through 2012 I bet. You'll feel a lot better having a NS4G late 2011 - early 2012 guaranteed.

Way better is a little bit of a stretch, but you will be better off with a ROOTED evo. But its anyone's guess when s-off will be achieved with the new h-boot so if you need to be rooted the Nexus is a good choice. I own both phones and I wouldn't keep an unrootable GB evo, no way. I got lucky and scored 2 new in the box s-off evos last weekend so my Nexus is on the nightstand till we get the ota to hopefully fix its only downfall, a horrible radio. Upside of nexus is no workarounds for GPS to work running aosp, it always works and no battery issues that I've experienced. I've tried every GPS driver and fix on my evo and android sytem just kills my battery. If I don't install maps and turn off location and GPS battery life on the evo is as good as the nexus.
Just wanted to chime in since I do own both phones. I'd get a nexus for now and if you don't like it, you will have no problems getting a mint s-off evo down the road.
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you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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rxc777 said:
you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/nexus-s-4g-review/12017.html
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.

omair2005 said:
LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/nexus-s-4g-review/12017.html
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.
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Thanks for the video and reply I love what im hearing because I had a MT4g and all I used was CM7 because I cant stand sense so this is perfect for me. The only real plus I have for the EVO IMO is the screen size and camera but I dont take many pics maybe a couple a month if that so I think I will do the trade in.

Award Tour said:
I have both, the NS4G is without a doubt better. There was a issue with the performance of the radio for some people, and that was a major gripe for some people that I think would stop be me from fully recommending but it's a getting updated to Android 2.3.5 with fixes to the radio on Monday.
It's waaaayyy too late to get the EVO 4G. The NS4G is half as old and the tech while slightly better/same (and in the case of the GPU, way more), will get STABLE updates through 2012 I bet. You'll feel a lot better having a NS4G late 2011 - early 2012 guaranteed.
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Thats was a concern going in was the EVO too old to be buying

FWIW, the Nexus S line is pretty old too, but still younger than the EVO.
My vote is for the Nexus S 4G. You already said you don't like Sense. So it makes 'sense' to just get the NS4G. Like others have said, you have 30 days so you could wait and keep the EVO and hope for root if you are sold on the phones hardware.

github said:
FWIW, the Nexus S line is pretty old too, but still younger than the EVO.
My vote is for the Nexus S 4G. You already said you don't like Sense. So it makes 'sense' to just get the NS4G. Like others have said, you have 30 days so you could wait and keep the EVO and hope for root if you are sold on the phones hardware.
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Great idea and if/when all is fix I can root because sprint will charge me 35 extra to restock

Here's my two cents.
On topic, Nexus s.
Off topic a bit, if at all possible go with the evo 3d.
It is the 4g with more ram and processor than the nexus s and the 4g. The 4G is a year old and past its prime. The NS is 6months old and not as good as the 3d.
Back on topic for a lower price the NS4G is the way to go.
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Nexus is not a great phone. (I had and sold two.)
omair2005 said:
LOL! Def go with the NSG4g.
My cousin just traded his EvO in for NSG4G.. and he won't look back. Plus its a google phone, its faster, better hardware, and better screen. You have CM7, MIUI, and other custom Roms as well. Just my 2c.
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I owned two Nexus 4g phones and sold them both (returning to my Evo 4G) for the following reasons:
-radio issues = miserable battery life! No joke, 5-6 hours with moderate use. I get twice that time with the Evo 4G. (The new OTA update is supposed to help with WIFI and 4G, NOT 3G, which is where part of the problem lies.
-feels cheap! flimsy, hard, slippery plastic does not feel good in the hand.
-the screen is not better than the Evo 3D. Nexus colors are over saturated, so skin tones are RED, etc. I guess some people like that, but I prefer more accurate colors. And the screen have a green tint.
I suggest you do to a Sprint store and try them out side-by-side. That is the only way to really compare them IMO.

If the ns4g doesn't have synergy then it just isn't cool.
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rxc777 said:
you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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Lol wut 0_o way better? To each their own I guess, yes I own an Evo, but the NS4G is the better device.
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Thanks guys Im going to wait about 25 day to see what develops with the Evo and if nothing I'll have a few days to see whats out there because I see the Photon is due out July 31 and it has a dual processorfor a hundred bucks more....it could be a epic win

I'd grab a nexus s. It'll get software faster than any other phone and its got super amoled screen.
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Overstew said:
I'd grab a nexus s. It'll get software faster than any other phone and its got super amoled screen.
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mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync
I get the latest updates in about 20 mins... I would wait for the sgs2 imo
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I was in same state as you. Id wait. I wouldnt swap evo, do they still make em as good as they uses to?
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you should wait until devs find an exploit for evo, its way better than the NS4G
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Do not listen to this advice. It couldn't be more bias and wrong. I would say get the nexus s if you like aosp roms. If you want sense then you will need to wait until an exploit is found for root.
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Buying an EVO--Seeking Advice

Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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Art2Fly said:
Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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If its running android 2.3.3 and when you load into the bootloader it says "s-on" next to the radio version then its not rootable yet.

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?

Art2Fly said:
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?
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The general consensus is that they will not be unlocking older phones so as to encourage consumers to buy the newer ones.
EDIT: There is always of course the possibility that an independent developer will find an exploit and give us the ability to gain root access to our phones. Some devs are known to be working on this now. There's no guarantee of course, but there is hope for those of us who were feeling hopeless.

OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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My wife is using Mikg, and her evo runs awesome. Can't wait to root mine...
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Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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I really liked Deck's ROM; lightweight, few issues; great battery life when combined with Tiamat 3.3.7. It's basically CM7 with a lot of the extra clutter (language packs, etc) removed. It looks and acts almost exactly like Android on the Nexus S.
That was my daily driver. I also really liked playing with Synergy; it's feature-packed and has a lot of bells and whistles, and is a fun toy. I didn't like it for daily use, though. I am really into the KISS philosophy when it comes to my smartphone.

And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?

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And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?
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Do alot of reading in the development thread. There is plenty to learn about.
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Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?

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Art2Fly said:
Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?
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Well that's a question that is dependent on a few things:
Do you prefer physical or virtual keyboards?
Is the loss of a nicer screen worth a bigger screen?
The Epic could be a great phone if it had the developer support that the Evo had/has.
They don't even have an AOSP ROM.

YES, trade, then load synergy rls1, then freedom kernel, for root use unrevoked,
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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy

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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy
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My personal opinion is that developer support is what makes the phone.
The Epic has a better core for performance and for battery.
If I recall correctly the GPU is better too.
The screen is nicer.
The keyboard sucks [because I hate physical keyboards]
But the developer support, comparative to the Evo, is nil.
Now, there have been signs of an increase in support but with the SGS2 coming it's hard to say how much will come to the Epic itself.

I actually just came from an epic to the evo since mine was stolen (which really sucked I loved that phone) but with the evo I've never looked back. I really liked the physical keyboard since I'm not a fan of soft keyboards but swype and mods alongside a much larger screen make up for it. Speaking of the screen, its no super amoled but its definitely one of the nicest I've used and and the phone overall is just beautiful. Battery is about the same for both in my experience. But like others have said the evo has MUCH better developer support. I remember I was using frozen syndicate Rom 1.2 before my epic was stolen ( back in end of may/ beginning of June) and they still didn't update I believe. Plus Samsung still hasn't released gingerbread for it and its being discontinued October I think. So all in all you should trade for the evo, definitely much better software support especially for a phone reaching its EOL, not to mention hardware (i.e. cases) Plus sense is just great
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Ive had both phones, I had the epic then i traded it for my evo<3 which i love so much. I dont regret trading it at all. Personally, i like the evo more it is greater over all