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Will Sprint swap my hero for an Evo

ok heres the deal. I have 3 manufacture defects with my hero.
1. Lots of dust under my screen.
2. Phone overheats when charging and running say google nav. (car charger)
3. More than 15 dead pixels all over the place.
my phone is going to have to be replaced. so my question is do you think they will give me a new Evo instead of another hero.
also I have sprint warranty.
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More than likely, no. But you never know.

For me, historically, it's been:
1st phone defective, replaced with same model, up to three times, then they will offer a different phone. I seriously doubt that they will offer an EVO to replace the Hero since the Hero isn't at its end of life.
Think about this: You buy a Chevy Malibu, take it in 3 times for manufacturer's defects, it's a lemon, do they upgrade you to the Corvette? Nope.

I wonder if they'd do it if I offered some cash as well
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Jye75 said:
For me, historically, it's been:
1st phone defective, replaced with same model, up to three times, then they will offer a different phone. I seriously doubt that they will offer an EVO to replace the Hero since the Hero isn't at its end of life.
Think about this: You buy a Chevy Malibu, take it in 3 times for manufacturer's defects, it's a lemon, do they upgrade you to the Corvette? Nope.
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No they don't give you a Vette, but they don't give you a refurbished car either. It is possible to get an EVO but you are gonna need to sweet talk them to death on phone. I have only once gotten upgraded after a few bad phones, that was the ENV2 to Voyager.

My guess is that you'll be aloud to move over to the Moment. Good luck with trying though. I bought 2 heros in December and both are still in perfect shape. No dust or paint chipping.

Can always ask...

The rule has always been that they will swap it for an equivalent phone of 'equal or lesser value'. I don't think the EVO is going to apply to that.

smstutler said:
No they don't give you a Vette, but they don't give you a refurbished car either. It is possible to get an EVO but you are gonna need to sweet talk them to death on phone. I have only once gotten upgraded after a few bad phones, that was the ENV2 to Voyager.
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You're right, they don't give you a refurbished or new car of the same model. Because it's not in the terms of the warranty. Just like it's not in the terms of the Sprint warranty to upgrade to the top of the line model, only to repair or replace with the same or COMPARABLE model, and that repair or replacement is at THEIR option. They could just keep giving you refurbs over and over... wait, they already do!

just like everyone that had the htc diamond and touch pro, they waited a couple months after the tp2 and they all of a sudden there was post after post of sprint gave me a tp2 and swapped out my touch pro. You won't get it right away but after a couple of months it may become possible.

I moved to the Hero from 3 defective Pres, but I had to show the store assistant manager that I was nice, competent, and a repeat customer.

so if I am nice, maybe wave some cash around I might get what I want.. maybe I should send my wife into do it when the Evo comes out.. women seem to get what they want.. haha
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rejectedkid said:
so if I am nice, maybe wave some cash around I might get what I want.. maybe I should send my wife into do it when the Evo comes out.. women seem to get what they want.. haha
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Low cut shirt, Short Skirt, high heels...I'd give em any thing they wanted LOL

They want $600 and they will give you what you want.

rejectedkid said:
ok heres the deal. I have 3 manufacture defects with my hero.
1. Lots of dust under my screen.
2. Phone overheats when charging and running say google nav. (car charger)
3. More than 15 dead pixels all over the place.
my phone is going to have to be replaced. so my question is do you think they will give me a new Evo instead of another hero.
also I have sprint warranty.
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fat chance lol it took me 16 replacements to get my touch pro replaced swapped out to the hero ( yea 16 all hardware defects dead keyboard etc etc )

They want $600 and they will give you what you want.
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I doubt they will make me pay full price. I convinced them to upgrade me from my instinct to the hero as a contract extension 4 months before my renewal. I have learned that being persistent but nice can normally get you places.
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I have always been upgraded to the latest and greatest for my phone problems..
titan=>mogul
mogul=>tp
tp=>tp2...
now what they wouldnt allow me to do is go from the tp2 to the hero
my understanding with the store i deal with is...
3 swaps within a 3month period will force them to ask you if you would like something else, and they will have a list, I also found out that they wouldnt allow me to go from winmo to android, nor from a keyboard to non ketboard or vice versa,
so i'm inclined to think that those of us with issues on the hero, will not be allowed to swap for the moment since it has a keyboard, and I've already tried that, and the swap phone needs to be of the same type...
and I have been told directly, they dont care about the phone.. its about continuing service.
I also have insurance and tep.

If you are having many problems, and it has been documented in Sprints notes ie you've called and complained with no results, the escalations department @ Sprint may be willing to deal providing you get a sympathetic one. Best Buy however told me when I. purchased my Hero and their ins. (have both) if unable to fix my phone itwould be replaced with a new Hero, if still being built, if not, then I would get the newest version of it. imo would be the Evo.-)
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So I called Sprint today and politely complained about my defective hero. They are sending me a new one in the mail. They did not tell me I had to send my current one in.. is that normal?
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in order for this to work out to your advantage, you'd have to wait until the Hero is no longer available from Sprint, and even then it's a slim chance.
Unfortunate for you, you'll more than likely get another Hero, or a Refurbished Hero depending on the way you go about getting your replacement.
rejectedkid said:
So I called Sprint today and politely complained about my defective hero. They are sending me a new one in the mail. They did not tell me I had to send my current one in.. is that normal?
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this is strange... do you know what department you talked to? If they performed the ticketing process that i believe they did, then you'll get a return kit with your replacement phone, and i would advise that you mail in the defective phone, if not, there's a chance that you will receive a charge in 2 bill cycles from receiving the replacement device showing a $500+ charge for the replacement phone.
In summation, if you get a return kit (a return envelope rather), then use it!... if you feel that you don't need to do this, i'd then advise to call Sprint and make sure that your account notes specify that you don't have to return the phone... otherwise, you need to.

9th exchange, at the very least.

Hello everyone,
I need some advice or suggestions on what to do. The Mytouch 4g, as you all may know, has a lot of problems. I've done many exchanges now, and some of them were done back to back. The first few times, TMO was able to ship express for free, but now they are charging me $9.99 for regular ground shipping even though the phones that I receive are defective. I am very frustrated at this point and have been thinking about canceling all 4 of my lines with them and eating the $800 ETF. What do you guys think I should do?
You may be wondering why I have to exchange it so many times..
Unlike the fellow perfectionists that you guys are, I never exchanged a phone that had a bad screen or squeaking buttons. The first time I exchanged it was because it had two dead pixels, then the power button would no longer work, then there was a ton of dust under the screen to the point where I had trouble seeing the top left corner where my status/notification bar is, then I had wifi and reception problems, then I've had the phone either shut off or reboot on its own.
I've been running into many, many problems - and they are not always the same problem either. After the third phone, all they have been doing is sending out refurbished units that are 'pre-damaged' by the previous user. On top of that, I have to pay for shipping on each phone, plus the Zagg's invisible shield (it's about $23 with labor on installation) that I had on several of the replacement phones. After troubleshooting for hours on end with tech support, I noticed that my battery cover is loose since they had me reboot/remove battery so many times, I ended up buying the gel skin case from TMO yesterday so that the battery cover wouldn't fall off.
I would be glad to take any advice that you guys have at this point. Thank you.
Edit: By the way, I did not have any apps other than opera mini - didn't even update youtube and things like that.

The statistical likelihood of getting 9 defective devices in a row is astronomical. Truly. If you are being honest and these are all really manufacturing defects then you sir are the unluckiest ****er ever and you are never welcome to babysit my kids. I don't really have any advice except to say that if your next problem is software related, try rooting and see if that fixes it. Otherwise I would avoid crosswalks and commercial flight if at all possible. Damn dude. Unlucky...
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They can offer to give you a different phone all together. Like the g2 or galaxy 4g. Just ask
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Do this. Call tmobile and tell them the issue with your device. Have them do another warranty exchage, but, instead of getting it shipped, tell them that you really do not want to wait once more to receive another device shipped and that if you can go into a tmo store and pick up a warranty replacement. They shouldn't have a problem telling you yes. Have them call the store so they can tell them you will be going in to get a warranty replacement. This way for sure you wont get a refurbished device. You will be getting a brand new one out of the box. This is the way I did my warranty exchage. They even gave me an extra battery for free.
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I agree with coupetastic-droid and also after your 5th replacement you should get a different phone if u want for ur replacement. Try for a g2 or even a g2x!

coupetastic-droid said:
Do this. Call tmobile and tell them the issue with your device. Have them do another warranty exchage, but, instead of getting it shipped, tell them that you really do not want to wait once more to receive another device shipped and that if you can go into a tmo store and pick up a warranty replacement. They shouldn't have a problem telling you yes. Have them call the store so they can tell them you will be going in to get a warranty replacement. This way for sure you wont get a refurbished device. You will be getting a brand new one out of the box. This is the way I did my warranty exchage. They even gave me an extra battery for free.
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I tried that last time.
They no longer do warranty exchanges in store.

Sfkn2 said:
I tried that last time.
They no longer do warranty exchanges in store.
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Yep, that courtesy ended with a new policy about 3-4 weeks ago and it can't be overridden.

TJBunch1228 said:
The statistical likelihood of getting 9 defective devices in a row is astronomical. Truly. If you are being honest and these are all really manufacturing defects then you sir are the unluckiest ****er ever and you are never welcome to babysit my kids. I don't really have any advice except to say that if your next problem is software related, try rooting and see if that fixes it. Otherwise I would avoid crosswalks and commercial flight if at all possible. Damn dude. Unlucky...
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TJ you crack me up. I actually went through this guys episode with a mytouch slide, 5 phones under warranty, but they never charged me a dime for shipping. The one and only issue i had with the Mytouch slide was dust under the screen. I can't remember if it was the 3rd or the 4th replacement i got in the mail, but that one came with dust in all four corners. Didn't even insert a SIM card in that phone just took it down to my local Tmobile store and the manager exchanged it for me. After the 5th replacement with dust i decided to sell it and replace it with a MT4G. Well it was all good for a week until my power button failed to work, 1st exchange. They made me pay the 9.99 shipping for that one. Receive the new phone and i notice the display sucks compared to my wife's MT4G. Instead of calling in to tmobile i drive down to the local Tmobile store and i show the manager my predicament ( mind you this is the same guy that was exchanging my Mytouch Slide). Nice guy orders me another MT4G, waived the shipping. 3rd phone arrives a few days later, display is washed out, but i decide to live with it. Figuring that if i exchange it again I'll get another one with the crappy display. F**K me if the power button doesn't work after two weeks. I go back to the Tmobile store and have another chat with the manager, orders me another MT4G and waives the shipping. Manager tells me, "You're the unluckiest man i've seen with a phone", and i said "yes, yes, I am." Last exchange was the charm, good screen, and the power button actually works. I honestly thought i was the only poor bastard that could be this unlucky with phones. I have to show my wife this post, so she doesn't think i'm the unluckiest man alive. You sir have just made my day. If you can i'd go to a local tmobile store and see what they can do for you. Best of luck.

cappyone said:
TJ you crack me up. I actually went through this guys episode with a mytouch slide, 5 phones under warranty, but they never charged me a dime for shipping. The one and only issue i had with the Mytouch slide was dust under the screen. I can't remember if it was the 3rd or the 4th replacement i got in the mail, but that one came with dust in all four corners. Didn't even insert a SIM card in that phone just took it down to my local Tmobile store and the manager exchanged it for me. After the 5th replacement with dust i decided to sell it and replace it with a MT4G. Well it was all good for a week until my power button failed to work, 1st exchange. They made me pay the 9.99 shipping for that one. Receive the new phone and i notice the display sucks compared to my wife's MT4G. Instead of calling in to tmobile i drive down to the local Tmobile store and i show the manager my predicament ( mind you this is the same guy that was exchanging my Mytouch Slide). Nice guy orders me another MT4G, waived the shipping. 3rd phone arrives a few days later, display is washed out, but i decide to live with it. Figuring that if i exchange it again I'll get another one with the crappy display. F**K me if the power button doesn't work after two weeks. I go back to the Tmobile store and have another chat with the manager, orders me another MT4G and waives the shipping. Manager tells me, "You're the unluckiest man i've seen with a phone", and i said "yes, yes, I am." Last exchange was the charm, good screen, and the power button actually works. I honestly thought i was the only poor bastard that could be this unlucky with phones. I have to show my wife this post, so she doesn't think i'm the unluckiest man alive. You sir have just made my day. If you can i'd go to a local tmobile store and see what they can do for you. Best of luck.
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Im on my 4th right now. 2 power buttons and 1 with dust under screen. All good displays tho. All within a month and a week of getting it
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Sfkn2 said:
Hello everyone,
I need some advice or suggestions on what to do. The Mytouch 4g, as you all may know, has a lot of problems. I've done many exchanges now, and some of them were done back to back. The first few times, TMO was able to ship express for free, but now they are charging me $9.99 for regular ground shipping even though the phones that I receive are defective. I am very frustrated at this point and have been thinking about canceling all 4 of my lines with them and eating the $800 ETF. What do you guys think I should do?
You may be wondering why I have to exchange it so many times..
Unlike the fellow perfectionists that you guys are, I never exchanged a phone that had a bad screen or squeaking buttons. The first time I exchanged it was because it had two dead pixels, then the power button would no longer work, then there was a ton of dust under the screen to the point where I had trouble seeing the top left corner where my status/notification bar is, then I had wifi and reception problems, then I've had the phone either shut off or reboot on its own.
I've been running into many, many problems - and they are not always the same problem either. After the third phone, all they have been doing is sending out refurbished units that are 'pre-damaged' by the previous user. On top of that, I have to pay for shipping on each phone, plus the Zagg's invisible shield (it's about $23 with labor on installation) that I had on several of the replacement phones. After troubleshooting for hours on end with tech support, I noticed that my battery cover is loose since they had me reboot/remove battery so many times, I ended up buying the gel skin case from TMO yesterday so that the battery cover wouldn't fall off.
I would be glad to take any advice that you guys have at this point. Thank you.
Edit: By the way, I did not have any apps other than opera mini - didn't even update youtube and things like that.
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First of all, nice 'Lude. I just picked up an 07 Civic Si Sedan on Saturday and I ****ing LOVE it!
2nd, are you running stock Sense or rooted? To be perfectly honest I've found the stock Sense to be much more buggy than the cm7 I've been running for the past 3 or 4 months.
My first phone had random reboots and such and a factory reset seemed to solve the issue, but I'm assuming they had you do that multiple times.
Even if the phone is fresh out of the box, do a factory reset before you use it. It might help, it did for me.
Otherwise check out cm7 or one of the Sense roms around here. Removing all the bloatware actually does wonders for stability. If you really want I can upload a nandroid of my own stock rom with the bloatware removed.

On my 3rd mt4g and I'm about ready to go back to iPhone most androids have to many hardware issues.
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Phateless said:
First of all, nice 'Lude. I just picked up an 07 Civic Si Sedan on Saturday and I ****ing LOVE it!
2nd, are you running stock Sense or rooted? To be perfectly honest I've found the stock Sense to be much more buggy than the cm7 I've been running for the past 3 or 4 months.
My first phone had random reboots and such and a factory reset seemed to solve the issue, but I'm assuming they had you do that multiple times.
Even if the phone is fresh out of the box, do a factory reset before you use it. It might help, it did for me.
Otherwise check out cm7 or one of the Sense roms around here. Removing all the bloatware actually does wonders for stability. If you really want I can upload a nandroid of my own stock rom with the bloatware removed.
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Thank you for your reply.
First of all, yeah.. my Lude is old news. Since then, I've switched to an S2k, but that got stolen. Now I'm in an 06 Evo.
Anyway, back on topic..
The phone is completely stock. This is the FIRST PHONE I've ever owned that I have kept stock - Why? Because I don't want to have to unroot it when I send it in for warranty repairs.

Sfkn2 said:
Thank you for your reply.
First of all, yeah.. my Lude is old news. Since then, I've switched to an S2k, but that got stolen. Now I'm in an 06 Evo.
Anyway, back on topic..
The phone is completely stock. This is the FIRST PHONE I've ever owned that I have kept stock - Why? Because I don't want to have to unroot it when I send it in for warranty repairs.
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Unrooting is as simple as flashing pd15img.zip through hboot. Not that hard.
Definitely try a different rom. As I said I've found cm7 to be much more stable than stock.
Sorry about your car. I never fully got over the 95 GS-R I crashed back in 05. since then I've been driving an ls.
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i got pretty bad luck with my phone. finally got a good one after like 9 exchanges and a month later the power button went out. i called them and they told me i couldnt exchange anymore cause i "had too many problems with the phone." so the rep told me that the only thing they could do left is to exchange my phone for a motorola charm.....i was like wtf why the heck would i want to downgrade my phone, which polly cost more then that piece of **** charm and it doesnt even run android...major downgrade.

Dude. That blows. Hard. I'm sorry to see that you're having so many problems with your phone and I'm glad I don't have the same luck as you. I got mine from eBay and it came in perfect condition. Never had dust under the screen, good screen, no faulty hardware, etc.
But in all seriousness, after 5 phones, I wouldn't keep it. I personally think that it's a great phone, but if I had to take it back 9 times, I'd try something else out. Ask if you can switch. It shouldn't cost you anything as long as the retail price is equivalent or lower than the MyTouch 4g, and if I'm not mistaken, it's one of the higher priced ones (rightfully, so). If you don't hate a keyboard, the G2 might be good for you, but I hear the hinge has problems and knowing your luck, the hinge would break apart upon first use. So maybe the Galaxy S 4g? I know Samsung has great hardware, even if their software is crap, as is their update schedules, but that is easily fixed with custom ROMs.
Either that, or wait and return it completely, if you're still within your return time and keep your upgrade for when the better phones come out, i.e HTC Sensation, etc, and just use something affordable off of eBay or Craigslist. Meh
Just my two cents. Sorry if it didn't help much, but I hope your luck gets better. :/

Update:
My luck has gotten worse. I received another replacement phone on April 15th. A week later, April 22nd, I noticed a dead pixel on my screen.
*Sigh* I have no idea what to do now.

You need to move on to a different device. I've never heard of anyone have so many problems with a device.
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I called in and spoke to technical support. They asked me to bring the phone to a store so that they can fill out a request for warranty exchange form. However, their tone basically implied something like, "It's impossible that you are getting so many broken phones. We need to verify that your phone is really defective before we do another exchange."
I brought it to a store and the retail sales manager had no idea why technical support sent me there, and basically told me to go call customer service again. He did, however, notate that there were a few dead pixels on the screen and that there was no physical, nor was there water damage.
I then called retentions and the supervisor picks up (without any transferring either). I explained to her exactly what happened, and how technical support had sent me into the store. She told me that she has no idea why because they could have filled out the form for warranty exchange over the phone, just like the other exchanges that I have done so far.
She apologized for what happened and said that I qualify for a multiple exchange (sorry if I got the term wrong!). She said that the manufacturer would exchange my Mytouch 4g for a Motorola Charm..
I explained that it would be a MAJOR downgrade. She then submits the form for the exchange and told me that it would be shipped express free of charge.

So you getting another mt4g or the charm? I'm still teipping about them offering you a charm over a mt4g. They are nuts!
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So you getting another mt4g or the charm? I'm still teipping about them offering you a charm over a mt4g. They are nuts!
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Another MyTouch4g.. Hopefully the 10th one's the charm!

Why do people hate refurbished phones?

I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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I think part of the issue with phones is that people don't want something that someone has had pressed against their cheek or stuffed in their pocket for the past few months.
This is apart from the obvious fact that a refurb it may still be broken.
I have personally had very good luck with refurbed cameras.

DirtyShroomz said:
I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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Honestly, because I've never received a refurbished phone that didn't fail on me within a month.
I don't care if it's "refurbished" or "new" I just want it to work 100% and not fail on me.

I'm inclined to agree that after a certain point you aren't really 'deserving' of a brand new device. I think it's simply the fact that the device isn't 'brand new and out of box' and has been 'handled.' I guess I can sort of understand why people might have a problem with it, but if it works and isn't entirely flawed in some manner, then what is the problem? I had 2 refurbished PS3's die on me in a year. Obviously I got 'lucky.' In that regard I understand why someone would be hesitant to get one. But more often than not refurbs actually work as intended. Shocking. But the practice is a tried and relatively true one.

I think you should get a freebee.. one free new phone. Anything after that.. refurbished
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I just activated my refurbished phone. It took Sprint a month to get one for me. This one doesn't charge at all. The store said it would take at least a week to get me another one. When I asked what I should do about my phone in the meantime, the employee told me I could bring my phone into the store everyday to have them charge it. He was serious.
The icing on the cake is that they won't call when the new phone comes in. I'm supposed to call them everyday and ask if it's there. But the store doesn't ever answer their phone! After going through the phone tree twice, it just says "Sorry, all reps are busy, please make an appointment online." Somehow this is the only store in all of San Francisco that can even do replacements. I ****ing hate Sprint. [/RANT]

notown775 said:
I think you should get a freebee.. one free new phone. Anything after that.. refurbished
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I think you should have to get a refurbished phone, then if that fails you should be allowed a new one.
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DirtyShroomz said:
I've been lucky enough to have never needed my phone replaced and I've had over 30 or 40 phones thanks to connections at best buy.
My question is why do people hate them? Obviously your "brand new" (and i use parentheses because people think a 8 month old phone doesn't deserve a refurbished one as a replacement) has the exact same chance of not working properly. I can understand one month old but anything past that is not new anymore.
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From what I have expierenced, refurbished phones are rarely problem free. Thus causing people to question refurb phones and the quality control that goes into refurbishment.
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ioos said:
I just activated my refurbished phone. It took Sprint a month to get one for me. This one doesn't charge at all. The store said it would take at least a week to get me another one. When I asked what I should do about my phone in the meantime, the employee told me I could bring my phone into the store everyday to have them charge it. He was serious.
The icing on the cake is that they won't call when the new phone comes in. I'm supposed to call them everyday and ask if it's there. But the store doesn't ever answer their phone! After going through the phone tree twice, it just says "Sorry, all reps are busy, please make an appointment online." Somehow this is the only store in all of San Francisco that can even do replacements. I ****ing hate Sprint. [/RANT]
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Call tech support and tell them your situation and they can send you one over the phone. I have the same problem in the southbay. The store always has at least a 45 min wait before you can even get help and they never answer their phone.
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Rem3Dy said:
Call tech support and tell them your situation and they can send you one over the phone. I have the same problem in the southbay. The store always has at least a 45 min wait before you can even get help and they never answer their phone.
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You mean sorta like download a new one?? Gotta love Sprint's technology

Will they send you a phone if they can't verify the issue? Is there a specific support number you call?

I've never received a replacement "over the phone", it has always taken overnight.
Refurb'd phones are put back together poorly IMO, my wife got a replacement that started to seperate from the case, we complained, they sent a "New" EVO the next day.
I have two refurb'd that are just fine though, we have 8 EVO's.

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You mean sorta like download a new one?? Gotta love Sprint's technology
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Really? I knew the level of intelligence on XDA was going downhill.......
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Jim M said:
I've never received a replacement "over the phone", it has always taken overnight.
Refurb'd phones are put back together poorly IMO, my wife got a replacement that started to seperate from the case, we complained, they sent a "New" EVO the next day.
I have two refurb'd that are just fine though, we have 8 EVO's.
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The term over the phone refers to the fact he can get a replacement by speaking to someone over the phone instead of having to deal with the situation he has at his local sprint store.
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ioos said:
Will they send you a phone if they can't verify the issue? Is there a specific support number you call?
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Yea they will. You should be honest about the problem because if you lie and sprint determines there is no issue with they phone they can charge you an additional amount.
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Sprint has questionable refurbishment techniques. I've been told that the whole process is outsourced. I've read a lot about people getting refurbished phones that have known problems, like screen separation and bright spots on the screen. In many cases, it seems likely that those are the reasons why the phone was returned in the first place, and their refurbishing does not take care of the issue for which the phone was returned.
That said, I used to be on a Centro, and I went through three new ones before I ended up with a refurb. The refurb lasted a hell of a lot longer than the new ones. The only problem with it is that it was kind of gross when I got it. It had smudges and one of the buttons was a little cracked. But the phone itself worked great for the year and a half that I used it.
And yea, there's the gross factor too. Who knows who had their face pressed up against my refurb phone. Ick.

I don't like the idea that it could have been thumped around, and only the most obvious failing component was replaced, leaving you with a "ready to break" phone. That being said, I've never actually had a problem with a refurbished unit, (phone or other). All in the head I guess.
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usmaak said:
Sprint has questionable refurbishment techniques. I've been told that the whole process is outsourced. I've read a lot about people getting refurbished phones that have known problems, like screen separation and bright spots on the screen. In many cases, it seems likely that those are the reasons why the phone was returned in the first place, and their refurbishing does not take care of the issue for which the phone was returned.
That said, I used to be on a Centro, and I went through three new ones before I ended up with a refurb. The refurb lasted a hell of a lot longer than the new ones. The only problem with it is that it was kind of gross when I got it. It had smudges and one of the buttons was a little cracked. But the phone itself worked great for the year and a half that I used it.
And yea, there's the gross factor too. Who knows who had their face pressed up against my refurb phone. Ick.
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I've seen as many new Evo's that had the screen separation issues, charger issues etc etc. I can see there being a bit more of a chance that a refurbished device isn't going to be up to par. I like the idea of maybe a new device and every device following is a refurb. As for the dirty screens ... maybe that's how I caught that face tattoo known as cheek herpes. :debbiedownerface:
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Riding the white pony?
Rem3Dy said:
The term over the phone refers to the fact he can get a replacement by speaking to someone over the phone instead of having to deal with the situation he has at his local sprint store.
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Well... DUH, some people have no sense of humor, must be due to lack of root... I dunno.

So far only on my first refurb from August last year. So far so good (knocks wood). My launch day (002)Evo's 4G got up, and gone (radio was shot). The refurb is a launch day 003. As with anything you put in contact with your body for the first time you should wipe it down first even if new(some of the toxic chemicals used in production are rather nasty).

Phantoms headphones issue?

I have phantom headphones in CM7.
This just came out of nowhere. Everything worked fine an hour ago.
All of a sudden the headphones icon is blinking. The phone thinks it has headphones connected, so it's blocking sound to the phone speaker. But there are no actual headphones involved.
Restarting didn't stop it.
I didn't make any system changes today. There's nothing physically in the headphone plug.
But my phone is suddenly useless as a phone because it thinks headphones are being plugged in and out every second.
Anyone got any idea what the hell is going on?

I reflashed CM and the problem is still there.
I reflashed stock 2.2.1 and the problem is still there. So it's definitely an out of nowhere hardware issue.
And this phone is a warranty replacement that I just got 3 days ago. Awesome.
Does HTC have ANYONE actually doing quality control?
And now T Mobile is sending me yet another refurbished phone. So I get to spend another night reloading all my stuff and tweaking settings. [sarcasm] Awesome. [/sarcasm]

Skipjacks said:
I reflashed CM and the problem is still there.
I reflashed stock 2.2.1 and the problem is still there. So it's definitely an out of nowhere hardware issue.
And this phone is a warranty replacement that I just got 3 days ago. Awesome.
Does HTC have ANYONE actually doing quality control?
And now T Mobile is sending me yet another refurbished phone. So I get to spend another night reloading all my stuff and tweaking settings. [sarcasm] Awesome. [/sarcasm]
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that happened to me too and i just cleaned out the jack and rebootet and bingo. dust and gunk get in there and give you hell. and ive heard bad things about refurbished phones but ive never been able to tell the difference between that and a new one with ones ive had. it probly depends on the place it was its refurbed at.
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Can you give me more details on how you cleaned it out?
I've picked at it with a tiny screw driver, put a headphone plug in it and spun it around, and hit it with compressed air.
Nothing seems to make the problem go away. Did you have some kind of awesome technique?
And T-Mobile is losing major credibility with me over this issue. I just bought the phone at the end of August. This is already my 2nd bad one. The T-Mobile guy on the phone told me there would be processing charges for BOTH phones on my next bill after the guy in the store who processed the exchanges specifically told me there would be no cost. And now I'm apparently waiting until November 16th to get the 2nd replacement after the guy in the store told me I'd get it today (next business day) and that's after it took this broken one a week to get to me after the guy in the store told me I'd have it the next day the first time.
When I got to the supervisor at T-Mobile she made it 10 times worse by trying to up sell me the warranty and exchange program saying that's the only way she could have this fixed by tomorrow.
I'm like "It was supposed to get fixed by today for no fees or charges according to the guy who processed the exchange. Now you're telling me you've added fees after the point of sale? And now you want me to agree to another $15 a month so you can get this fixed tomorrow? It was supposed to get fixed TODAY for no fees! I just bought the phone 2 months ago and I'm already waiting on a 3rd model due to the extreme lack of quality control on these POS's. Now you want me to spend more money? Are you high?"

i know!! they tried that crap with me and i said im not waiting a week for your f*** up and walked out. then called htc and they took care of everything because im still under warranty. dont deal with money hungry salesman holding phones hostage for $15 a month.
but i used the same technique as you except i put rubbing alchohol on the swab to clean the contact better. *dont use a jack ass amount of alcohol though*
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Well that didn't work. I'm sure there's a short in the electrical system. The battery drains like water through a colander ever since this problem showed up.
But I think the short is internal and not right at the plug. (Which is odd because if I plug in a headset it works fine. I just don't want to carry a headset with me wherever I go.)
The best solution I've found so far is just to turn off the "Display headset icon" in the cyanogen settings so I don't have to look at the damned think blinking, then just use my phone as a text only device until the new one comes on Thursday.

yeah but it sucks that your battery is draining still..but im sure you can tough it out till tomorow
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im sure you can tough it out till tomorow
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It's torture!
Absolute torture! The CIA should realize they don't have to water board terrorists because of this. They can just take away half the functionality of their smart phones!
I mean it! I'll talk! I'll say whatever they want me to say! Just make my phone work!
Or...send me another borked one. I'm good with that too because I'll trade it as an even exchange for a 4G Slide, give it to my wife, and upgrade her account with a Sensation that I will take.
I think the thing that annoys me is that the one that just broke has the good emmc chip and the good screen. But this random stupid problem. Now I have to play the "Do you get what you paid for or do you get garbage parts" lottery again. And even if I get the good parts I can never rely on the device again because it's reputation is killed with me.
Update: And i came in 50/50 in the new phone lottery. Bad screen but good chip.

Its a sad reality many live with ( look at us complain about our high end phones, we have it so tough...lol)
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Its a sad reality many live with ( look at us complain about our high end phones, we have it so tough...lol)
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Well when you put it in perspective like that I just sound whiny.

Broken EPIC? Don't use Asurion ONLINE!

My EPIC got broken by a family member last week. That night, I went to www.phoneclaim.com as suggested by a local Sprint associate. I filled out the forms after reading all the nice comments saying how fast it was.
Every time I went to check back, I got a message saying the phone was out of stock and it would take 1-3 business days from the claim to ship.
At the end of business today, I called them, to find out that it was an erroneous message.
At the end, when they asked if I had any questions, I asked why this was so easy for the phone rep when I was getting those messages? And there was also a note on the website that was meant to discourage calling, by saying that the phone reps didn't have any more information than what I was seeing. Obviously wrong.
I was told that the EPIC was a high demand phone, and it was being used to replace other phones, so the system was putting claims for it on "hold". Sounds like bull to me.
Anyway- just sayin'- if you break yours, don't bother with an online claim, just call.

I did an online claim 2 weeks ago. It seemed fine to me. Got it next day! I even asked them if I could get a nexus s4g, but was denied!

Kinda off topic but I HATE my refurbished epic. The digitizer is raised above the bevel in one corner, call speaker is twingy, capacitive buttons are not sensitive at all, worst of all there is screen burn in all over and I can clearly see the word undo on white screens. I am trying to get it replaced with a brand new one but they are giving me **** for it.
This is how most ppl end up with a nexus s. I don't want one but if I'm offered one how am I supposed to refuse?
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xopher.hunter said:
Kinda off topic but I HATE my refurbished epic. The digitizer is raised above the bevel in one corner, call speaker is twingy, capacitive buttons are not sensitive at all, worst of all there is screen burn in all over and I can clearly see the word undo on white screens. I am trying to get it replaced with a brand new one but they are giving me **** for it.
This is how most ppl end up with a nexus s. I don't want one but if I'm offered one how am I supposed to refuse?
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I don't understand why they can't spend a few seconds just to turn the phone on and make sure it functions before sending it back out.
I have best buy's insurance, sent my phone in for repair after getting shot screen first by an airsoft gun. The phone I received in return the capacitive buttons hardly worked. I had to smash the buttons for it to begin to register.
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my refurb epic has the loudest vibration ive ever seen on a phone. not strongest, loudest. like the vibrator knocking up against something inside.

I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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This is why I don't bother with insurance on phones. If I do something to my phone that destroys it, that's my own damn fault and I'll bite the bullet to spend full price on a replacement, get a used one on Craigslist or just activate an old phone in a kitchen drawer. If the phone is defective, that's what manufacturer warranties are for. Now if the insurance guaranteed a new replacement with any sort of claim, I might consider it, but I know too many people who got burned by these companies with ****ty refurbished replacments.

ac16313 said:
I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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Hey I still have my release day epic.lol, Im actually about to swap it back out with the wife for my old 3d.
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I think we all have replacements? Hm anyway my screen digitizer has a similar problem with it being above the bevel at one corner
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I had my new epic for 10 monhs. The refurb I got had more scratches on the screen than my old one
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I'm running my 4th epic. First one went in water, so I had it replaced. They replaced it with one that got no signal, and it was hell trying to get them to realize they sentence a bad phone. But I got a new one. Then about two weeks ago I sort of bricked it, (its not bricked because I can get to download mode, but I can't get recovery to read the sd card.) And here I am with number 4.
Sent from my Cyanogenmodded Epic4g! Wanna fight about it?

I have only received one refurb ever in my 10 years with Sprint. Lucky me.
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worldwidepmp said:
I have only received one refurb ever in my 10 years with Sprint. Lucky me.
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Same here, and it was when I was still using flip phones.

I'm so glad I've taking care of my baby no scratches and have been running "naked" for a couple of months now and still have an extra screen cover somewhere I've dropped it once, stupid bus driver , other than that its been all good. Love my epic would hate to damage it seriously.... as would anyone else.
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My wife has an Evo Shift she got from Asurion, seems okay. We didn't use the online claim form, we called as soon as we realized her phone was gone.
My out-of-the-box Moment has a bug that would turn on voice commands if I moved the headphone jack just right. Never bothered to try to get Radio Shack to replace it. The GPS died on it, so I'd have a claim if I ever activated it again.
Hmm...old age creeps in. My Epic is my second epic... the original died within a couple of days, the microphone wouldn't work on the phone. Got a new one out of the box from the Shack and it's been good to me.

Ok now that this thread is fully derailed
Do you guys know what I should do? My refurb epic has burnt in bubbles all over the screen, the word "undo", and PM. It also has very unresponsive capacitive keys. And feels like a ringing bell if tapped right lol.
But yeah do I have enough proof to get it replaced? I'll settle for just the screen being replaced. I would prefer them to just give me a new one however I am aprehensive to go in since I see on here a lot of people get offered a nexus s out of this situation.
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Ok now that this thread is fully derailed
Do you guys know what I should do? My refurb epic has burnt in bubbles all over the screen, the word "undo", and PM. It also has very unresponsive capacitive keys. And feels like a ringing bell if tapped right lol.
But yeah do I have enough proof to get it replaced? I'll settle for just the screen being replaced. I would prefer them to just give me a new one however I am aprehensive to go in since I see on here a lot of people get offered a nexus s out of this situation.
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If they offer you one just tell them no you want an epic... you might have to wait a little longer but they will give you an epic if that's what you want... and yes if you have proof of the problems then you're good to go...
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On second epic after going thru about 8 Moments, mostly known issues like GPS and screen issues. Too bad cuz that phone had potential. It had become unusable.

my sister dropped her phone and cracked the screen, called put a claim in, and they overnighted her an GS II Epic Touch. They didn't even want her broken epic back. She is on a business account so I dunno if that has anything to do with it.

dakotakid said:
On second epic after going thru about 8 Moments, mostly known issues like GPS and screen issues. Too bad cuz that phone had potential. It had become unusable.
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I read somewhere that the moment had a gpu that was never activated. That nugget of info kept me from getting the epic earlier sadly.

My Asurion Epic was like new. Refurb, supposedly, but a nice one. I can't complain.