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Hey all,
While looking on an Austrailan Android news website I stumbled across this post, which basically confirms the fears and worst nightmares of Atrix 4G owners.
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/
Seems the bootloader solution is only going to apply to future 2011 devices, and only if carriers allow it.
-Sigh- I'm glad we still have some talented Dev's working the case! They're doing great things for everyone and I encourage you donate generously!
Thanks
- DarkRyoushii
I think it means devices that are current, but not starting until late 2011.
DarkRyoushii said:
Hey all,
While looking on an Austrailan Android news website I stumbled across this post, which basically confirms the fears and worst nightmares of Atrix 4G owners.
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/
Seems the bootloader solution is only going to apply to future 2011 devices, and only if carriers allow it.
-Sigh- I'm glad we still have some talented Dev's working the case! They're doing great things for everyone and I encourage you donate generously!
Thanks
- DarkRyoushii
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dLo GSR said:
I think it means devices that are current, but not starting until late 2011.
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ahh yes fair point, I sorta read it quite quickly in hopes for an answer
Fat chance AT&T ever allows this on the Atrix. They got your subsidized phone fee and locked you in for 2 years, do you honestly think they care whether or not the bootloader is unlocked? *queue imperial march*
Hey, at least thats a start, if not this phone...maybe their next phone will be unlocked. You have to think big picture....in about a year this phone will become obsolete, just like the nexus one. You're already starting to see phones that are about to come out with 1.2ghz Tegra chip...can you imagine in another year..we might go 2ghz or maybe a quad core.
You have to think about this, the Motorola Xoom was unlocked because Google designed it with them. That IS the developer tablet. The Atrix wasn't made for developer reasons, i'm pretty sure Motorola was using this phone as a Guinea pig.
I can see why ALOT of people went to the Inspire, Bigger screen, HTC quality, and you have a phone that you can mod. Some of us are staying with this phone just on hopes that later it might be unlocked. For all we know, this phone may be locked for good.
I love my atrix even with the locked bootloader. I can't mod it as much as I'd like but Greyblur/Gingerblur are great and I'm very happy with the performance of the phone. It is only going to get better when 2.3/2.4 gets shipped OTA. I am happy with my decision to keep the Atrix instead of returning it. Even with it's flaws it is the best phone I've ever owned.
AT&Trap would save $
dcarpenter85 said:
Fat chance AT&T ever allows this on the Atrix. They got your subsidized phone fee and locked you in for 2 years, do you honestly think they care whether or not the bootloader is unlocked? *queue imperial march*
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If you kept the same phone longer and kept their service they wouldn't have to pony up the subsidized new phone every two years and would save in the end. I think it would be in their better interest aside from tethering hacks which we already have.
Motorola using Xoom as an example is a slap to every other Motorola device owner. Xoom is a Google Experience tablet and they were forced to provide an unlock just like the Nexus One/S.
Recon Freak said:
If you kept the same phone longer and kept their service they wouldn't have to pony up the subsidized new phone every two years and would save in the end. I think it would be in their better interest aside from tethering hacks which we already have.
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That is assuming you don't jump ship to a new carrier for a newer/better phone that isn't offered on AT&T. Their primary interest is keeping you locked into contract with them for as long as possible, since they make far more over the 2 years of a contract than a phone is worth.
DarkRyoushii said:
Hey all,
While looking on an Austrailan Android news website I stumbled across this post, which basically confirms the fears and worst nightmares of Atrix 4G owners.
http://ausdroid.net/2011/04/26/the-little-aussie-taking-on-motorola-u-s/
Seems the bootloader solution is only going to apply to future 2011 devices, and only if carriers allow it.
-Sigh- I'm glad we still have some talented Dev's working the case! They're doing great things for everyone and I encourage you donate generously!
Thanks
- DarkRyoushii
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Thanks for posting this one. I did update it in my thread, but happy to see it shared further.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=988634
I'm waiting to hear clarification from Motorola on which devices will be included.
Will let everyone know when I have an answer.
Hope Motorola is not saying this to get people to slow down the protest. I won't believe anything till Motorola publicly announces this new info. Reps say about anything through email.
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Hope Motorola is not saying this to get people to slow down the protest. I won't believe anything till Motorola publicly announces this new info. Reps say about anything through email.
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Very true. Good point. Lets see if motorola if willing to redeem themselves.
Good news if this is true! Hope we won't be disappointed.
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That is assuming you don't jump ship to a new carrier for a newer/better phone that isn't offered on AT&T. Their primary interest is keeping you locked into contract with them for as long as possible, since they make far more over the 2 years of a contract than a phone is worth.
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I didn't look at it that way. I've been with them since they were cingular I've been very happy with them. I always wait til they come out with a device I like.
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This isnt the forum for this but this is where most of the sprint users go (and the evo forum)
I've seen all the topics about evo3d vs the GS2 but nothing on the motorola photon.
the specs are on the internet, but I'm not exactly sure how those specs would stack up to the GS2 or the evo3d.
I work right next to the motorola building in Ft. Lauderdale and I was able to talk to some of the people working on the phone and even use one of theres for a second.
It was running gingerbread with motoblur (although this version of motoblur looked really nice, and they told me it can be turned off.
They also told me that it will have a locked bootloader
They said they were told it was going to release by july 31st.
The phone felt very solid in my hand had some weight to it kinda like an iphone.
I manage a restaurant so i kind of overheard them talking about stuff like getting stuff through fcc and all sorts of debugging that had to do with problems popping back up on them. It was just very interesting to hear because it sounded like talk from these forums.
I wish i would have got a picture because I cant seem to find anything online thats not stock picture of the device.
What does everyone think? Will it be a good upgrade from the epic?
Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches
Lol I love that it says highlights=sammiches
iSaint said:
Here's what people think bro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117250&highlight=Sammiches
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Lol I love that it says highlights=sammiches
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Ha i know right
The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.
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The Photon is not an upgrade from the Epic in any conceivable way. It has a lesser quality LCD display, weaker processor, locked bootloader (enjoy the stock rom and slight variants because that's all they get) and motorola's poor customer support.
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I wouldn't be so unequivocal...
The Photon has a dual core processor, the Epic has a single core, plus it has a larger, and higher resolution display from the Epic. The guy who reviewed it from Phonescoop said the screen on the Photon is excellent, particularly compared to other motos. It also has the webtop software. As for the bootloader, Sprint will have to decide whether to let Motorola unlock it later in the year. If the bootloader does get unlocked then I personally would definitely consider it an upgrade from the Epic.
To the OP: it sounds like they are having issues with the FCC approval. That's not unusual. It's what held up the EVO 3D's release for a while too.
Had Sprint not f'd us over with the Premier program changes back in April, I'd be jumping from the Epic to the Photon on august 1st once my upgrade window opens. But no, no more yearly upgrade for one line, just 1/2 discount.
Looks like it is missing the keyboard too. Downgrade from the Epic.
No keyboard = not for me, but I saw the unboxing video online and it looked pretty solid. A friend of mine has a droid 3 on vzw, and if its ant indication of average moto ****, I like it. I do wanna see how they handle the unlocking of the bootloader.
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I've been playing with it for the past couple of days, and I gotta say it's a really solid device. The webtop app is amazing, and I've been considering this phone just for that reason. All the different boot up options intrigue me as I don't know what they do. I'm not the biggest fan of the display as it's a pentile lcd, and I'm one of those people who can see the miniscule dots every time I look at it a certain way.
Also, I'm pretty confident moto will unlock it in time. I don't think OEMs can afford to alienate the dev community any longer.
Id say it has HUGE development potential, but sadly I don't think many devs will buy it. One of the main reasons I'm holding out for the within.
Which I hope, I hope, I hope, please god, give it a bigger dev community than the epic. I just might cry if it's left in the dust again by htc's inferior hardware.
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Locked bootloader
There will be an update to unlock the bootloader, according to Motorola.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
CDKJudoka said:
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.
I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.
Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.
Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.
It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.
I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx
CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner
Till the photon 4g forums gets set up. I hear its going to be within the week. I figured it couldn't hurt to have a spot where EVO owners like myself who decided to pick up the Photon 4g can discuss there thoughts and comments comparing the 2 phones. so prospective EVO owners who want to switch can see what we think. I know when i was searching for this info before i got mine today, I couldn't find much. I will try to post something of a comparison after i get this thing fully set up and I've had some sleep.
Good luck all and tear this thing up!
Edit: My Sudu-Review.
Picked up my Photon today it's sick, I'm glad i held off on getting the 3d.
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Am I the only one that absolutely hates the pentile display? It looks like grainy pixelated garbage... I've played extensively with Evo 3D and have used an Evo 4G for a year, and both of those look much better than the Photon's display... Everything has a checkerboard texture to it. Its awful.
I see what you mean by the pixilation. but my reds and whites are brighter. So i guess its a tradeoff. but in normal day to day use you won't notice the difference. and i love the feel of the gorilla glass its awesome.
Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?
I don't think there much difference other than the 3d part
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Besides the tegra chipset whats the difference between this and the EVO?
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Last part is very true. but I'm really hoping they will unlock it. I didn't even bother with the 3d cuz i didn't feel it was an upgrade from the OG Evo. I also couldn't care less for the way HTC did their 3D technology. The photon was appealing for its specs as well as the fact that its a world phone.
So far it feels speedy fast compared to my OG Evo. the photon is a tad thicker but feels better in the hand. Not sure if which phone is heavier but i really love the feel of the photon (did i mention that already). Im still setting up my phone so i can't speak for software yet. But mobile hotspot works great here on 4g...
Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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Can you provide proof of that claim? Never saw anything about it.
Also, might be a good thing it's for September, by then all the options will be out [Including the Within] and all rooted by then as well.
I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..
fergie716 said:
I guess Motorola is planning on unlocking the bootloader by the end of 2011 (article)
I guess time will tell
I just saw all the specs and whatnot..looks pretty cool..
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Eh, I want to believe them because that would mean all phones are going to be unlocked from all Android manufacturers....but.... "starting in late 2011" sounds like...."eh, we'll get around to it...if you don't forget"
Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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I do want to point out that most people that are waiting for a new forum go into the general section of the overall forum, not a phone's general forum. Just an fyi.
Also, you may find that some people are already in there. I havent checked though.
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Yes but since i am a EVO owner i made this an easy place for other EVO owners who maybe want to upgrade. Shouldn't have to search hard to find other ppl who where in the same boat as them and ask there opinion.
Mods: if this is the wrong place please move thread. Thank you
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Does Evo. 3D have tegra. 2
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No, Evo 3D has dual core Snapdragon. Not a lot of phone have adopted the Tegra over Snapdragon or Hummingbird.
mattykinsx said:
The Photon has 16GB of NAND, the Evo 3D has 4GB.
Different GPU. Different Camera.
The Photon has an encrypted bootloader than may never be unlocked.
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Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.
Lokifish Marz said:
Also has:
Firefox Desktop browser
USB host (KB/Mouse, USB storage devices)
Accessories:
Media Dock with IR Remote (think Evo Desktop/Media Center)
Root and custom ROM's aside, the Photon has more functionality than the Evo has after a year of heavy development or the 3D. I love hacking/modding/improving all my stuff but this is the first device that I'm happy with (root and custom ROM's not withstanding) out of the box.
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Eh, Motoblur lol.
I'm not saying it doesn't have more to offer than the Original Evo, but I do think that it's all about modifying.
If I can't run AOSP I'm not interested.
I'm heavily leaning towards this new device now. I know the Chef support will be great on the 3D, but the Moto has me interested. I have one upgrade now and another in October. Choices....hmmm.
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Took a while for the Atrix to get rooted, but they did it. And Motorola is supposed to do the OTA roll-out unlocked bootloader thing... they just need to hurry it up.
I need to head down to my local Sprint store and start looking at the phones to compare... unfortunately my upgrade isn't until September
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If this is not a yearly upgrade you can call and have an upgrade reset done for 25 or 45 depending on your account. It gets billed to the account so no upfront cost.
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Just curious to know if there are any details of upcoming Android phones in the year 2012? I have searched Google extensively but details appear to be very scarce.
Personally I would like to get a non-hardware keyboard phone for my next one (my last three HTC phones have had keyboards, and you can probably guess which phones they were!). So ideally would like a fairly thin phone, but with a decent battery in it. Would also like much more onboard storage (32gb).
Unfortunately details for upcoming phones seem to be heavily under lock and key.
What's after GNexus
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. After the GNexus, everyone's tight lipped about what they're coming up with.
Just tried a GNexus at the Bell Store (Canada) and didn't walk out too impressed. So I'm now anxiously waiting on other vendors to step up the game and introduce those ICS ready, less capacitive buttons phones already.
Let's see what they have in store for us in 2012.
we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
nelsdzyre said:
we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
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The top of range of the new phones, one that is unanimously considered fantastic, will probably cost a hell of a lot. But as long as it isn't priced silly like an iPhone, then I won't mind taking out a 2 year contract if the phone is really good and ticks all the boxes.
I'm hanging onto my Desire Z till HTC comes out with another slide-out keyboard phone...
I want a new phone to replace my Vision - anyone heard any rumours about any decent qwerty handsets coming out?
Only ones I've heard about are the Dell Hancock and Motorola Droid 4 (RAZR with a keyboard). Both of which I doubt will get released in the UK.
It's a shame HTC haven't announced anything because my contract's up soon and I'm wanting a new toy to play with.
GSMarena seems to have the good list of phones, and some rumored ones too. I feel it's more a case of ditching hardware keyboards because of more time, money and resources needed to make them. Maybe that's why HTC is able to crank out so many touch phones but rarely any keyboard ones.
The few best out there are the Samsung i927 and Motorola XT860. Both are on dual core processors.
Here's the current list via GSMarena search for 800Mhz, 512mb RAM and up phones.
:-/
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Indeed. Next QWERTY phone or G3 like successor better have quadcore support, hi-grade build quality, all the feature of current flagships, heck GLONASS support and definitely no provider advertized phone like the mytouch series, plain factory phones only.
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Well, if Apple has their way in court, there won't be any Android phones anymore. They are winning patent case after patent case, and their goal is to shut Android down and have a monopoly on the smartphone market. Some think android is in real trouble... though it will likely be a case of Google having to pay a truckload of money to Apple. Gotta love modern capitalism....
Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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I know.. suing over the slide to lock and unlock???? Wtf? How can you patent an idea? It was an idea at the time apple filed a patent for it, way before the 1st Gen iPhone came into being.
Your right about patents killing a OS.
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Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
Stargazer418 said:
Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
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You mean filed a lawsuit to ban them, good luck apple...good luck. I for one am happy to see apple wasting buttloads of cash on crying about android. Next quarter they'll slip even more
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This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
kaijura said:
This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
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They're superior and sell more...hence why apple is jealous...they should be used to it by now wouldn't u think?
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Apple just lost one of them to Samsung recently. I really doubt they will win because they are downright ridiculous. I think the judges are starting to realize that apple is just sue-happy and thinks everyone stole their work. Pretty soon they start suing the produce guys claiming they stole their name lol! Idiots!
I'm curious about a new qwerty HTC also. The only newer choice we have is the MyTouch 4G Slide but it has ZERO dev support. I guess I'll see if I can make it until the next G model or something. My G2 is in pretty good shape so I'll be okay for a while, I hope
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
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Wha? They have literally 4 whole pages of their development section lol! what are you talking about?!
Unfortunately, Apple has taken the road of "if you can't beat em, sue em". They are just pissed because somebody came around, and gave people what they wanted, instead of TOLD them what they wanted. Like how about big screen smartphones, and the ability to move files without having to use Apple's crappy iTunes bloatware? And now they wonder why Android has taken the smartphone marketshare from them.
Now Apple is burning the bridges with other companies that made the iPhone what it is, in an attempt to extort Android from the top spot. Samsung has made the CPUs for all the iPhones, and the memory chips for many of them, until recently where Apple is now trying to move to other suppliers, so it can more easily attack Samsung without repercussions. And how useless would the iPhone be without the Google search engine, or Google Maps? Some have postulated that the iPhone location logging debacle earlier this year was an indication that Apple is trying to come up with a map and navigation solution so it can break away from Google.
Hopefully, the recent patent ruling against HTC will be tied up with appeals and countersuits. I don't see the smartphone landscape changing just from a few patent suits. And hopefully that would never happen, as I enjoy having a smartphone that actually acts like a computer, not a closed architecture iPod.
Back to the OP, it seems like HTC's is just starting to reveal specs on its 2012 devices. Of interest are the Elite (4.7" display and LTE on AT&T), the Ville (4.3" AMOLED display, dual core 1.5 GHz CPU) and the Edge (4.7" SLCD and quad core 1.5 GHz NVIDIA CPU). Unfortunately, no hint of anything with a hardware keyboard anytime soon, AFAIK.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/19/htc-elite-flagship-phone-and-4g-lte-windows-phone-to-hit-att-in-early-2012/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/htc-ville-detailed-htc-sense-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-thinner-than-iphone/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/08/htc-edge-to-lead-the-smartphone-pack-with-quad-core-cpu-optically-laminated-display-and-unibody-design/
The HTC Vivid (released on AT&T earlier this month) looks pretty nice. But the body is a little too angular and plastic for my liking. It seems that HTC might be (thankfully) going back to the aluminum unibody that it has become known for.