[Q] PeanutButta Jelly Time question - Continuum General

Hi i have a few questions about that topic and i wasn't sure where to post it. I just acquired my phone back today after destroying it while trying to root it and installing something from a random Google search, yeah bad judgement, this time i want to do it the right way.
1). What are the benefits of switching over to the "peanut butter jelly kernel"?
2). Is there anything i should worry about, i am installing the non voodoo version.
3). Does the phone have to be rooted to use this?
4). Is there a way i can backup all the android software, like the stock os just in case i mess it up so i can put it back to its original factory image.
Sorry for the random questions, i am a newb to the android os and i am still trying to understand everything and yes i been using the search button and doing my research, i just still had a few doubts and questions.
Oh and i am really interested in learning about developing software/apps for the android environment,can anybody point me to the right directions as in people to talk to, guides, tutorials. Thank You!

Step 1 : Research
Step 2 : Research
Step 3 : Get a good grasp of what you're doing
Step 4 : Research
Step 5 : Root
Step 6 : Research
Step 7 : Flash Kernel
Step 8 : Result

and again with the people and the questions
Dude, all this stuff you can eassssilllyyyy find within the realms of this Continuum board, and through google...
Also, if you don't know the nuts and bolts of your phone and Android, then any developer will tell you don't bother installing custom kernels.. Because when you do something wrong, they are the one's who have to help...
Not flaming or trying to be rude... This is the truth, and directed not towards just you, but everyone...
Now, I'll answer your questions quickly because i am nice
1. Check the Continuum Android Development thread, and go look at the thread that's named "Peanut butter jelly time" or whatever
2. Yes. You will have video boot problems.. aka: weird colors when booting..
3. Not necessarily.. All you need is CWM, technically.. Although there is no harm in rooting..
4. Yes, in CWM...
If you don't know what cwm is, then go do some research.. If after you do that you still have a valid question, search some more
Theeennnn you can ask us and as long as you tell us you did your research we will gladdllyyy help out
@Weudel:
bahaha, you beat me by like two seconds

trailblazer101 said:
and again with the people and the questions
Dude, all this stuff you can eassssilllyyyy find within the realms of this Continuum board, and through google...
Also, if you don't know the nuts and bolts of your phone and Android, then any developer will tell you don't bother installing custom kernels.. Because when you do something wrong, they are the one's who have to help...
Not flaming or trying to be rude... This is the truth, and directed not towards just you, but everyone...
Now, I'll answer your questions quickly because i am nice
1. Check the Continuum Android Development thread, and go look at the thread that's named "Peanut butter jelly time" or whatever
2. Yes. You will have video boot problems.. aka: weird colors when booting..
3. Not necessarily.. All you need is CWM, technically.. Although there is no harm in rooting..
4. Yes, in CWM...
If you don't know what cwm is, then go do some research.. If after you do that you still have a valid question, search some more
Theeennnn you can ask us and as long as you tell us you did your research we will gladdllyyy help out
@Weudel:
bahaha, you beat me by like two seconds
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Yes i been doing a whole bunch of research all day, i been learning alot, i was just confused because some the information i found contradicted others, i was just making sure. Sorry for all the questions. Yes i researched cwm and i am reading more about it right now. I been reading most of the threads like 2 or 3 times to make sure i didnt miss anything. And no your not being rude, its the truth, i just wanted to doublecheck some things.
And thanks Weudel i'll be sure to do that
Thanks again!

1 a.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943833
b.)http://project-voodoo.org/
2.) The boot up video doesn't work properly, but that's about the only issue with nonvoodoo.
3.) Yes, because to run voodoo, you need busybox which you can only get once you're rooted.
4.) What you're talking about is a nandroid backup, which is done with the clockwork recovery mod (commonly referred too as CWM). However, as far as I know, even if you revert to your nandroid backup, the peanutbutta jelly time kernel will stick. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a kernel sticks permanently, or at least until you flash a different kernel. But don't worry, as long as you're careful and do some research first, nothing should go wrong.

ntien said:
1 a.) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943833
b.)http://project-voodoo.org/
2.) The boot up video doesn't work properly, but that's about the only issue with nonvoodoo.
3.) Yes, because to run voodoo, you need busybox which you can only get once you're rooted.
4.) What you're talking about is a nandroid backup, which is done with the clockwork recovery mod (commonly referred too as CWM). However, as far as I know, even if you revert to your nandroid backup, the peanutbutta jelly time kernel will stick. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a kernel sticks permanently, or at least until you flash a different kernel. But don't worry, as long as you're careful and do some research first, nothing should go wrong.
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ok thank you, yeah i been learning alot and reading all the info out there.
Just one more question i been wondering, which version of superoneclick is the best for my phone, i have a samsung continuum, i saw that most of them use version1.7 and others said that 1.9 can work too but that its a 50/50.

Weudel said:
Step 1 : Research
Step 2 : Research
Step 3 : Get a good grasp of what you're doing
Step 4 : Research
Step 5 : Root
Step 6 : Research
Step 7 : Flash Kernel
Step 8 : Result
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Perfect step taking

Agree, it actually helped me get my phone set up the right way
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SuperDeform said:
Perfect step taking
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yeh... I've been doing things that way for awhile... seems to work.

Related

Where to start?

I've had the HTC Hero since launch in October and I've loved it. But three things have really bothered me about it. One is the fact that they are constantly delaying the new firmware and the second is that my battery life has gotten worse and I've tried all that I can to fix it. The third thing is the lag that can happen, especially when I want to make calls, can be frustrating. So I've heard about the use of custom ROMS and I feel like finally transitioning over to them. What I want to know is what exactly I have to do in order to be able to load up a custom ROM? This might be a noobish question but the last thing I wanna do is brick my phone by making a stupid mistake.
PawkChop said:
I've had the HTC Hero since launch in October and I've loved it. But three things have really bothered me about it. One is the fact that they are constantly delaying the new firmware and the second is that my battery life has gotten worse and I've tried all that I can to fix it. The third thing is the lag that can happen, especially when I want to make calls, can be frustrating. So I've heard about the use of custom ROMS and I feel like finally transitioning over to them. What I want to know is what exactly I have to do in order to be able to load up a custom ROM? This might be a noobish question but the last thing I wanna do is brick my phone by making a stupid mistake.
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Read the FAQ's and wikis posted at the top of the forum. Once you get passed those you should be able to ask the 'right' questions
Basic steps are:
Root phone
Install recovery image
Flash rom
The wiki has steps for those...and I seriously recommend reading through the thread of whatever ROM you choose.
And before you ask: The choice of ROM is up to you. They all have good points and bad points, so don't create a thread asking which is the best...it's pretty subjective.
Damageless' great set of instructions.
Here is an excerpt from his instructions:
I have compiled this guide from the other one posted on this forum, the discussion therein, and my own knowledge. If you have any suggestions on making it better or to correct any mistakes I may have made please let me know.
This guide is intended for Windows and includes detailed instructions. It will cover the steps necessary to root, flash the new recovery image, create a full backup. This will work with software versions 1.29.651.1 and 1.56.651.2. I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone using this guide. Root at your own risk.
I have put to together a video on YouTube for you to follow along as well.
Links are attached in the .txt file.
I have used the Fresh and Damage ROM's and they are very good. Everything does seem snappier, but I still get the phone keypad lag which is very, very troublesome and not noticeably different from the stock. Others have claim no lag, and so YMMD.
There are many neat things about the modded ROM's, but there doesn't seem to be much to be done about the phone lag. Not good, since first and foremost I expect the Hero to be a *phone*.
smw6180 said:
Read the FAQ's and wikis posted at the top of the forum. Once you get passed those you should be able to ask the 'right' questions
Basic steps are:
Root phone
Install recovery image
Flash rom
The wiki has steps for those...and I seriously recommend reading through the thread of whatever ROM you choose.
And before you ask: The choice of ROM is up to you. They all have good points and bad points, so don't create a thread asking which is the best...it's pretty subjective.
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Thanks everyone. Dont worry, I wanted to do my own research on the ROM's anyways.
bnbaldwin53 said:
Here is an excerpt from his instructions:
I have compiled this guide from the other one posted on this forum, the discussion therein, and my own knowledge. If you have any suggestions on making it better or to correct any mistakes I may have made please let me know.
This guide is intended for Windows and includes detailed instructions. It will cover the steps necessary to root, flash the new recovery image, create a full backup. This will work with software versions 1.29.651.1 and 1.56.651.2. I am not responsible for any damage done to your phone using this guide. Root at your own risk.
I have put to together a video on YouTube for you to follow along as well.
Links are attached in the .txt file.
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Didnt mean to double post but doesnt the first link already cover the second link because I found a nandroid file after rooting

Problems with the root!

Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
Sent from my Sexy Nexy, courtesy of the fine developers of Tapatalk
Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!

[Q] I am new to this site

I could really use some ones help me root my phone and get 2.2 froyo I would really appreciate if some one can help me please. Can help one reply and show me how
Do you want root + custom rom, or just stock froyo.
I will tell you that stock froyo leaves a LOT to be desired and the custom ROMs are incredibly better.
Help me out whats best for me to do so I wont be able to crash my phone lol thank you for replying
Honestly, you are better off rooting on your stock 2.1, read the noob guide.... will add more shortly.
After you read that, you will note all you need to do is move update.zip and flash it (in the guide).
Boom, you have root... now download Rom Manager, flash CWR, and create a backup (also in the guide).
Now that you have a backup of your system, backup your apps (Titanium Backup app), in the guide.
Now, download a custom ROM and flash it with CWR..... I recommend Trigger V2.5. You can go to the dev section and find it, or click the link in my signature to watch a video if you like. If on your phone best to watch the video embedded in his thread so the annotations show up.
there is no quick way of doing this
u need to do some reading
in s15274n click on the "My noob guide" read it, then read the "My Vibrant Guide",
then if u have questions about really specific things, people will help you out.
read lots before u start flashing roms, because it is risky.
hope this helps, i am new to the android world too and been reading lots lately, my phone should be here soon though
Ok I will root right now and reply when I am done but where is the noob guid?
my signature, or the sticky in the Q&A section.
Ok checking. I have been reading lots also bc I don't wanna mess up my from that's why I am asking for help you know lol
s15274n noob guide has all you need, rooting is pretty simple and there are A LOT of videos showing step by step for rooting, flashing a rom, updating a theme etc.... so welcome, after a couple of weeks you will be so happy with the phone it will blow your mind
Thank you I'll be back guys i need to help my brother with some stuff. Right now the first I'm doing is rooting so i have the undate.zip in the internal right gonnd turn off my phone and do it
I read those guides posted by s15274n and others countless times before i rooted, then I read them again. Read them until there is no question in your mind as to what your doing. Read the rom flashing guides as well, as you'll more than likley want to put a custom on on after you've gained root. Thanks to s15274n and the other members who have taken the time to make easy to follow guides and tutorials.
Ok I root it now download a Rom right. But what is Trigger V2.5.
I'm looking for the Trigger V2.5 but i dont find it I see Trigger V2.0.1
look in the development section of the vibrant forums..anyway..trigger 2.6 got released today..here is the link for the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921453
(click where it says "download trigger 2.6")

[i9003] Frustrated First Root

Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
agnl said:
Starting off, I'm probably posting in the wrong section. Excuse my forum etiquette, but I need help with this because I'm insanely frustrated and in pain (Decided to learn how to exploit the android OS while recovering from my surgery).
So, if you've read past that first part and are still willing to help, thank you.
Moderators: If you absolutely need to move this post, please move it to a section where it will actually get attention and I can get an answer. Thanks.
Anyway, the breakdown of my problem is this;
I wanted to root my new day old Sprint CMDA Nexus S, I've never rooted anything android, and if anything the most I've done with a droid OS is installed it on my old iphone 2g.
So I did some googling and first thing to come up was this guide:
nexusshacks(dotcom)/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-root-nexus-s/
Now, usually I would do a bit more research, but because of the lack of blood in my body I'm doing dumb things, making bad decisions, whatever.
So obviously this guide doesn't work, even a quick skim of the comments shows that, I try to follow this guide-
I followed step "fastboot flash boot rootboot.img" then tried to reboot. It freezes at the google boot logo. This is where I start getting a bit nervous because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.
So I think "Well, if I jump over to someone elses tutorial and do that it should overwrite any "root"ing data I've tried to put into the device.
So I jump over to this:
androidadvices(dotcom)/root-sprint-nexus-gingerbread-235-update/3/
It has me install PDANet and it's frozen since on the installing PDAnet to your phone.
I just want to get my Nexus S back to original factory default so I can start fresh from there without a terrible guide.
Can someone please help me get there?
Thanks.
tl;dr:
Bad guide soft bricked my phone and I want to restore it to factory defaults
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Ok I can see you need help but I am inclined to warn you instead. Stop. If you cannot figure out how to root the easiest phone to root then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. You will end up screwing something up, won't know how to fix it, and come crying here for help. Do yourself some research before you go and ruin your phone.
Yes you posted in the wrong place.
There is a thread in this forum on how to root the nexus s 4g. Rooting is model specific. The T-Mobile Nexus s is different from the sprint, att, Rodgers, o2 etc.
Please please do some more research!
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Thanks for a reply, and I understand I dug a hole.
Now I need to get out of said hole, so if you had any directions of how to dig myself out, that'd be great.
if you can get into fastboot then you are still cool, if not you're gonna have to odin it. I dont actually know where the tar files are, Micheal posted it up but i think they deleted the thread. You should have came to xda first,we have one clicks.
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
shabbypenguin said:
actually rooting is the same across the board. same steps same everything... in fact the one click root version 1 would work on any and all of them, version 2 branches out a bit further due to that it installs cwm.
anyways boot into fastboot, download stock fastboot images from petes thread found here http://wonderly.com/bb/CRESPO4G/OEM/GRJ22IMAGES.zip and flash them all in fastboot.
youll be back on stock grj22 but youll at least be booting.. from there follow a guide for rooting this phone that has you flash cwm (not a prerooted kernel). or be lazy and use my one click root
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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+1
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mikeyinid said:
You sir are a class act. We need a ton more guys like you here at XDA
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lol you give me way too much credit mikey but thanks for teh vote of confidence

Newb questions in prep for root attempt

I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
kjy2010 said:
Hey bro don't you use the backup feature on HC? I format and re-install at least a few times a week, and google reinstalls all my apps in about ten minutes tops.
Nothing personal, I just don't get some peoples aversion to doing a proper wipe and format between installs. It's not like you lose any of your photos, music, or videos even when following the instructions in the OP.
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1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
YeeP said:
I have been trying to make sure I take all the correct steps before attempting a root. Some of the software references in the forum have me confused. If someone could help me with these I would very much appreciate it.
Here is a quote from the Icey Faux/Honeylicous thread by the OP:
1) What is the difference between the android market and the google "app store" that I keep seeing people refer too?
a) what is the reference to "HC" in this quote?
- I have purchased apps from the android market that I would like to keep. I followed some references in other threads and got the Titanium Backup (free version) in hopes that I can backup the entire tablet. Is this what I would use to keep my apps/data and bring it back to the tablet after rooting?
2) I also got the Acer Recovery app. This looks as though it is used to bring the tablet back to stock form. Is that correct?
3) Is the term "root" in reference to gaining root permissions/access to the tablet, and nothing else? (I was under the impression that it was the installation of a ROM)
4) I have 3.2.1 on my tablet. It looks as though at this point in time, the only way I can root is to bring it back to at least 3.2 ot less (reference to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227&page=11)
5) Any tips on what I should download before the root so that I can keep a backup of the original setup and all of the apps I have purchased?
Thank you for anything you can give.
Ryan
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Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
1) No difference, Google Market/App Store yada yada yada.
a) HC = Honey Comb, it is Googles internal name for their OS from versions 3.x
- If you go to Settings - Privacy, put a check in the boxes for "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore". Doing this alone has been enough for Google to automatically re-install about 99% of my apps.
2) Acer Recovery makes it easier to install the various Recovery images. It does not alone help you get back to "bone stock", but it at least will re-install the stock Recovery image if and when you're ready to go back to the stock ROM.
3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
5) Not needed, see my info after 1,a).
kjy2010 said:
Ryan,
HC=Honeycomb (the version of Android that is currently on your tab).
No difference, in the name for market, some people just use a different term.
2. No it doesn't. It will install CWM which will make a backup of your current ROM which you can flash to go back to original.
3. Root allows you to install CWM which will in turn allow you to flash custom ROMs.
4. Yes you will need to downgrade first, make certain you have everything you need already downloaded and on your external SD card.
5. Read, READ, READ, READ, take notes, and follow instructions to the letter. We certainly don't need another "help, I bricked my tab" thread lol
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In reference to your answers:
#3 - Am I correct in saying that I can get root access without applying a new ROM?
#4 - I have an SD card, and it looks as though with the downloads and what not, the tablet is not even using it.
How (I am sure to get a "use search" answer with someone...) do I force the tablet to download these things I need to the SD card?
Do I need an additional SD card to be used for this process only?
I see that you are working on a version of your ROM for 3.2.1, shall I just wait to avoid problems?
#5 - I have been trying to read as many "brick" threads as I can in order to avoid them.
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3) Root is getting root access to the device, which is generally needed to install custom ROMs, so I could see the confusion.
4) Almost right, you'll need to bring it back to 3.0.1 first. Be sure to have already downloaded and installed at least Acer Recovery and IconiaRoot before downgrading, as the Market is flakey as heck when you downgrade to 3.0.1. I followed method 2 in that thread and had 0 issues.
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I did find the IconiaRoot thread by Thor. It looks as though this is the reason for bringing the version back to 3.0.1, true? Not to many usable answers to the questions asked in that thread, that are answered by the OP. I will try and search for people using it and starting their own thread.
This looks to be a Windows piece of software, maybe I can get it to run on my virtual box... or wine... . I guess I could try it on my work machine.
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
fermunky said:
IconiaRoot is the app to actually use the exploit found to root the device and give you root access. Now, the reason for going to 3.0.1 is because the exploit was fixed by Acer is version 3.2. So, the downgrade is needed first so that the exploit is available to root your device.
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Perfect, thanks man.
erica_renee said:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
if you are on STOCK FROM ACER.. 3.2 OR ABOVE . you must DOWNGRADE TO GET ROOT..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
im guessing if you have looked at all the threads about being bricked and still do not understand how to do it..or scared to try .
DO NOT ATTEMPT
MAYBE you should ask a dev if you can send your tablet to them in the mail and them flash it for you.. Would be my best sugestion.. Everyone that flashes anything on there tablet or any ROM BASED Device takes the risk of bricking.. IF you have read other bricking related threads you will see people complain they fallowed all instructions and still ended up bricked.. Maybe to falt of there own they missed or maybe just luck of the Flash..
Good Luck and look for Jimmy Deans post in the d/load he gives a very detailed instructions with step by step pictures. as some of the others do as well..
Thanks for listening to me RANT About my opinion...
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
erica_renee said:
OMG..
The best way to do this to date seems to be in the past by Jimmy Dean.. there are links to his threads in nearly every recent bricked or threads similar to yours..
xxx the dingy blonde Erica Renee..
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Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
Give thanks to those who need it..
Thanks for such nice words.I do appreciate and value your opinion of me.
All im saying is that if you have read all the threads and post about bricked devices bad flashing stories and the threads on how to do it correctly.. That there is nothing more anyone can do or say to you about this.. Only other option is for someone to do it for you.. I did not mean to offend you in any way.
Its kinda unclear what you expected to get out of starting a thread stating that you read everything good and bad.. about flashing this tablet.. maybe the solution is to go to android sdk site and get better acquainted with the OS on a more personal level.. if you are still not understanding the process .
With that all said..
I do hope you accomplish what your trying to do.I also sent you a Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
erica_renee said:
<CLIP> Thanks maybe it will make you smile and not be so hateful toward constructive criticize n.
Good Luck..
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Ah, my mistake, I must have been confused by the meaning of "constructive criticism"
Apparently when you say:
OMG..
Your worse then most of my girl friends.. ITS ALL QUITE SIMPLE AND EASY
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That is meant in the most loving, helpful way. Right? I should have been happy with that response. I apologize.
garringm said:
Thought we were talking about tablets here ... this whole Jimmy Dean and Links givin me a hankerin for some breakmast
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Giggles im so sorry .. fix me some while your in the kitchen..
OK, erica_renee, I need to come back and give a real apology. I am having a hard day at work today and was looking toward learning a new process on my latest toy to give me a little relaxation. I just had a customer blaming my additions to the software as the cause of their problems. Not sure if you code for a living, but that is not a fun conversation.
Sorry if I was mean, I just want to learn and not be treated like an idiot. I just want to be as educated as possible before I make a move. I see to many people getting educated because they broke something.
Its all fine
I do understand what you mean..
NOPE im not in software development in anyway. I did back in the 80s own a local computer business so i know how customers can be.. As far as my past being mean and aggressive.. YES i think it was ,better to have someone dislike me then brick there device.. I have leaned alot about android thru the official android web development site.. Its alot of long winded boring reading.
all is kewl with me. I dont take this stuff personal.People including myself sometimes can become to agressive on forums. as its not really a face to face interaction..
anyway GOOD Luck...
xo xoxoxo
I got the itch for some breakfast also.
Erica, git in dere and whup me up sum vittles!!
IM So sorry TIMMY Dean
oops i feel so stupid i just realized i was having a bad blonde moment..
and while you are cooking guys bring me some as well.. I Have been banned from the kitchen. last time i dropped a expensive glass and broke it.. Thou i used to love to cook.. Boohooo
ok i shup now because im causing yet another forum to be way way off topic..
YeeP said:
Perfect, thanks man.
Not sure if you ranted to make yourself feel good or show how awesome you are. Either way, this is not my first time to the rodeo, and not my first time on a forum where there are people that want to constantly show how tough they are. I have seen your posts in other threads and know what to expect from you. Because I am new here, I will not use the language I am tempted to with you.
It is so cool that you feel great enough that you can give someone a hard time because they want to make sure they are prepared to do things right the first time. As opposed to the opposite. Maybe because they want to understand how things work and the syntax surrounding the protocol(s).
My opinion on your opinion is to STFU and kiss my ass. mkay?
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Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
thedoc8 said:
Good job could not have said any better just using reg English. Giggles
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No Need to downgrade....
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
mahalocat said:
Please see attached -
Looks like they found rood for 3.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
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Thanks! Just spent some time reading through this thread and it seems this is the post that those with 3.2.1 should go to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20628560&postcount=119

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