Solution to 'no movie rentals for root users' problem - Xoom General

I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?

screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over

Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"

Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.

I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...

Botero said:
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!

th0r615 said:
Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.

Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.

web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...

Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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bored369 said:
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.

All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.

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Movies on Xoom

Already, I was able to use Double twist to get my music off of iTunes and into my Xoom, that was pretty simple, and all is well.
I am going on vacation next Sunday, and I am going to need some movies to watch. Typically on my iPad, I can rent or buy a movie on iTunes and simply watch it.
I need to know the following:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
2. What are my choices for movie download locations? Reliable, and virus free?
3. My experience with the Xoom has been a very positive one to this point, I just need a reliable and hopefully not a time consuming method to buy/rent movies, and/or a method to get movies already purchased from iTunes into the Xoom.
Thank you!!!
I don't know if this is the advice you are lookng for but you can always "barrow" movies from the internet via a torrent or download site like filestube. Although I haven't explored it yet, I believe amazon.com has some kind of video on demand service which would be comparable to iTunes video service I suppose. But until the xoom has flash support even that isn't an option. As far as the "barrowing" method originally mentioned, I wouldn't worry about viruses. The virus would have to be written for the android operating system and I dont think you will encounter that at this stage. This of course only applies if you are going to be downloading directly through three xoom. If you plan to use your PC first then transfer to the xoom, then I guess a little concern might be warranted, as always.
But the android market does have torrent apps, so direct downloads to the xoom is a viable option. Also torrent sites like btjunkie will have reviews/comments to give you an idea whether the file does what it says it should.
Also filestube can be used directly from the xoom. As far as finding good files, generally you want to look for results that have the movie name (or sometimes its abbreviation), the year it was made, "xvid", and that it its already in a watchable format i.e avi,mp4,etc.
These tend to almost always be bonafide files. Hope this helps.
Google really needs to get media support for their devices otherwise they will always border on the line of niche geek devices.
Op, I have been trying to answer your #1 question for many months...please share if you find a way to remove drm from iTunes movies!
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I have used a torrent client on my Nook Color to download a ep of Fringe it played flawless. It was only TV HD on not 720p but looked excellent. I think it took 10 minutes for a 325 Mb file no computer needed at all. I used rock player to play it. I would expect the xoom to have no trouble doing this.
Not sure what format it uses, but the Amazon Video market has an option for downloading for use on portable devices. It does look like you would have to start the process on your computer and then transfer the files to the device, but it might be pretty easy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/video/ontv/player/ref=atv_getstarted_player
JOHNGAETANO said:
1. Is there anyway to get protected movies off of iTunes and into the Xoom? I would rather not spend 10 hours ripping and burning a few movies.
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Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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It sure seems like there's a golden opportunity here for Amazon to be the Android equivalent of iTunes for purchases of movies, TV shows and music.
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Amazon video on demand works right from the XOOM's browser. I haven't been able to copy anything to the actual device from the service, but you can at least stream all your Amazon videos.
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
dvdcatalyst said:
Stripping the DRM is something I haven't seen yet, however, on other Android forums, I've seen the program Tunebite mentioned a couple of times.
It basically records the file while it is being played on your computer (similar to what "other" drm removal tools do, but supposedly, it accesses the file differently, enabling it to run faster.
I have no experience with it myself though. I tend to stay away from those kinds of files myself.
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A tool called requiem will remove the DRM. You're on your own to find it though.
#2 I grab my movies from tehparadox.com I have never dl'ed any viruses from that site. Plus its an active site if theirs a problem with at post ppl will always let you know before you download
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www.imp4movies.com works for me.
Read my post on what u need to know before u buy Xoom
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there's a great program called DVDCatalysts4 that encodes DVD's & Blue Ray's just great.
monkeefied said:
Why do they make it soo hard to download movies and video legally? I've had such a hard time with DRM and such, that I've had to resort to other methods to get my media on my portables. I hate this soo much, I have no problem paying for my content, but if it is harder to pay them for it, than it is to "borrow" it, then why oh why would I pay for it? I would also like to see an answer to the OP. /end rant
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I am not sure, but here in the Netherlands downloading movies is legal. Uploading is not. At this moment usenet is a excellent source especially with Spotnet. Works like a charm after the authorities closed down FTD (database of this program was in the Netherlands, but was no longer considered legal). Spotnet however is new designed and has a database on usenet itself which is impossible to shutdown.
All movies, music, series can be found there in topnotch quality and downloading goes with 12MB (that is MegaByte per second), depending on your internet account ofcourse. We in the Netherlands have a maximum of 120Mbit at this moment.
Not sure if it will also works overseas, but you could give it a try.

Netflix

It seems the apk for Netflix has been leaked can't seem to get it to work fully but maybe someone else can.
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I was able to install and launch. I can search movies and manage my queue, but I get an error if I try to stream. Looks more like Netflix is blocking it than a system error.
It would be great to get Netflix streaming.
Netflix DRM on Android
Netflix not streaming seems to be a DRM issue. More info in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995126
cbotd said:
Netflix not streaming seems to be a DRM issue. More info in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995126
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Amazon Prime bought Netflix of Europe,try their 30 day free movies on their instant video page,3000 movies so far, Free!
I use it on my A7,its great.After free trial its only $79.95 yr.
That s cheaper than Netflix USA and Blockbuster.
Thanks! I am a prime member but didn't know vids could be played on my elocity.
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Netflix - Amazon Prime?
I am also a Prime member and can stream videos just fine to my Mac or my lil netbook, but when I try on the A7 tab, it returns a message that Amazon does not have this set up yet for mobile devices. I've even tried signing in through various browsers to the full Amazon site, but each time it seems to recognize my device and says it's not supported.
If you are running something that allows you to stream videos, please do tell!
there are some alternatives to playing hulu / netflix on your mobile...
PlayOn makes it possible to stream from your pc to mobile/tablet.
TVersity makes it possible to stream from hulu.com (no netflix i think)
on your tablet, use something like Skifta to play the DLNA stream, it works.. i tried it with Tversity / hulu.com .. not perfect, but it works..
maybe someone got a better dlna based and cheaper solution?
Netflix app released on market work with several devices wonder how we can make the a7 look like the evo 4g.
rombold said:
Netflix app released on market work with several devices wonder how we can make the a7 look like the evo 4g.
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if it rely on "DRM" , A7 does not even support it at all..
my port "Blur" do support it, but not sure if its 100% implemented correctly from my side with directories and apps running.
A7 stock firmware has not support at all for DRM media.
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I am also a Prime member and can stream videos just fine to my Mac or my lil netbook, but when I try on the A7 tab, it returns a message that Amazon does not have this set up yet for mobile devices. I've even tried signing in through various browsers to the full Amazon site, but each time it seems to recognize my device and says it's not supported.
If you are running something that allows you to stream videos, please do tell!
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I'm confused. I'm able to run Amazon Prime video no problem on mine. I don't remember if there was a app on amazon or what (my fuzzy brain seems to be telling me that there was a download prompted by Amazon the first time I went to the video section).

Anyone able to get HBOGO.com to work on their Xoom??

Was just curious if anyone else had any luck with this. I have a COX HBO subscription and received a flyer in the mail informing me that I could watch HBO movies for free via the internet thru HBOGO.com because I have an HBO subscription.
I thought well hell maybe I can watch HBO movies on my Xoom. Sure enough HBO and COX are not blocking it or anything but the damn Xoom browser gets all buggy and either freezes or crashes somewhere during the movie.
It also works if you have an HBO subscription with Verizon, Comcast and DirectTV, etc..
Was curious to see others experiences with this and their Xoom...I watched a few minutes of Vertigo, Terminator Salvation and Avatar before the Xoom browser crashes.
I tried in the stock browser, Firefox and Dolphin HD. The flash just doesn't seem to be able to handle it.
LynnL said:
I tried in the stock browser, Firefox and Dolphin HD. The flash just doesn't seem to be able to handle it.
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Yeah I tried skyfire and dolphin as well with no luck. Stock worked best but eventually crashes.
I did a Google search and apparently HBO is coming out with an HBOGO app for iOS and Android, so hopefully that comes out sooner rather than later...or at least we get a working stable flash player/browser at some point.
Im with directv.
I was able to get the stock browser to play but not without using unconventional methods. The video plays great once you actually get it to work.
I was able to get it to work with the stock browser. I only watched a few minutes of a show so I don't know how stable it was.
We all know Dolphin Hd isnt honeycomb friendly yet...So why not try Dolphin Mini..It works 20 times better than Dolphin Hd
Try dolphin mini works perfect once you get it to play. Kinda gotta tap it a few times to get it cuz it disapears but awesome. Just watched a movie on it. Dolphin mini is not like dolphin HD at all. Set it up though through settings as desktop user agent and flash always on
Old MuckenMire said:
Was just curious if anyone else had any luck with this. I have a COX HBO subscription and received a flyer in the mail informing me that I could watch HBO movies for free via the internet thru HBOGO.com because I have an HBO subscription.
I thought well hell maybe I can watch HBO movies on my Xoom. Sure enough HBO and COX are not blocking it or anything but the damn Xoom browser gets all buggy and either freezes or crashes somewhere during the movie.
It also works if you have an HBO subscription with Verizon, Comcast and DirectTV, etc..
Was curious to see others experiences with this and their Xoom...I watched a few minutes of Vertigo, Terminator Salvation and Avatar before the Xoom browser crashes.
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Thanks for the tips guys!!
I just tried HDMini and it worked for awhile and then the movie started skipping and freezing with the movie Vertigo. I DID get thru avatar so HD MINI sure beats stock.
Thanks again man!!!
Ha, check this out!! If you are an HBO subscriber this is HUGE news!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EisaBTzuqsU
Looks like the app is coming on May 2!!!
I may need to get HBO again...
Was really excited about this until I read my cable provider (cablevision) will not be carrying this... ridiculous.
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not a problem
Old MuckenMire said:
Thanks for the tips guys!!
I just tried HDMini and it worked for awhile and then the movie started skipping and freezing with the movie Vertigo. I DID get thru avatar so HD MINI sure beats stock.
Thanks again man!!!
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I am able to use HBO to go with the stock browser in my xoom. I found that searching for movies in the portriat oriantation helps to see all the choices. I watch them full screen in landscape over wifi. The video is a little blockie looking but its a good start!
I'm disappointed watching HBOGO on my XOOM. My wife has an iPad2 and it streams and look beautiful everytime. However, on the XOOM it will invariable get blocking and even freeze at times. There must be more overhead to display it in safari as we are both using the same high speed internet connection.

[Q] hulu

sorry if this has been hashed out somewhere else but i could not find it. does anyone know if you will be able to watch hulu on the transformer. my guess is no but alas i still have to ask thanks a lot
Hulu doesn't allow any mobile device to play their video, except for devices supported by Hulu+ (which I think is only iOS devices at this point).
I've been using PlayOn TV for both Netflix and Hulu on my Xoom, and it works well enough. Needs a Windows PC to stream the video, and it costs a bit of money, but actually still works out less than Hulu+ so it's a bit of a wash at this point.
Use the included My Desktop feature to watch Hulu.
that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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that's what i thought. its pretty lame for those of us who want to use them as a laptop replacement
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I agree, but be thankful that you can take your Android device out of a box and start using it - with iOs, you are forced to use a computer to "activate" the device. What a PITA!
agreed i had a iphone 4 it was jailbroken. well anyways i tryed to do a master reset so i could sell it and low and behold it forced me to update to the latest software and firmware. it sure was a pain to sell it after that, now i have HTC inspire and much more happy
Actually, there is a flash player mod that hex edits the lib file to trick hulu into thinking your a windows PC. It works great on the incredible aand the xoom (I'm told) :,but whether that will work with transformer is another story.
Also, to the best of my knowledge, it requires root.
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dont mean to bring up an old thread but in case anyone is wondering .. using the hacked flash apk, i was able to stream through hulu.com .. works good and although its not in HD, the quality is very good!
http://asustransform.com/2011/06/08...ss-hulus-pejudice-on-asus-eeepad-transformer/

Samsung media hub sucks

I went on a trip recently to a location that had limited internet connectivity. I decided to download some movies from the Samsung media hub in advance. Well what do you know when I am finally out of wireless range andI want to watch my movies it won't let me because it wants to connect to the internet. Things like this are why Apple still dominates media heavy devices. If I have paid for a rental I should be able to watch it with or without wireless connectivity for the period that I rented it for.
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cbpagent72 said:
I went on a trip recently to a location that had limited internet connectivity. I decided to download some movies from the Samsung media hub in advance. Well what do you know when I am finally out of wireless range andI want to watch my movies it won't let me because it wants to connect to the internet. Things like this are why Apple still dominates media heavy devices. If I have paid for a rental I should be able to watch it with or without wireless connectivity for the period that I rented it for.
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Wow, how stupid. I just tried it with some TV shows I purchased outright and it needs a signal in order to launch. Once it's launched and you're signed in it allows you to watch what's on your Tab without being connected. But you have to keep it running in the background because if it's closed it'll need a signal again to log you back in. Not really well thought out at all.
You think that's bad......
Samsung Apps won't load without a SIM,
EVEN IF YOU'RE CONNECTED TO WiFi.
Doh!!!
Does Google movies have the same requirements?
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Weird...
I have downloaded (bought) movies and TV episodes.... from the Media hub.... several... and watched them on planes, I travel a lot for work and this kills time for me on the plane.
It as worked great, no issues.
I have not tried a rental though, I am going to tomorrow though, going to download / rent a movie from the hub and see if it will play on the plane ride home tomorrow.
Pj
PjD122170 said:
Weird...
I have downloaded (bought) movies and TV episodes.... from the Media hub.... several... and watched them on planes, I travel a lot for work and this kills time for me on the plane.
It as worked great, no issues.
I have not tried a rental though, I am going to tomorrow though, going to download / rent a movie from the hub and see if it will play on the plane ride home tomorrow.
Pj
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After flying home today I found that the rental will not play when their isn't a internet connection.
I am guessing it wants the internet connection so it can verify you have started watching the video? and lock it down after 24 hours?
Movies and TV episodes worked fine though.
This is on a VZW LTE version if it makes any difference.
Pj
do the google market rentals require an internet connection to start playing?
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cbpagent72 said:
I went on a trip recently to a location that had limited internet connectivity. I decided to download some movies from the Samsung media hub in advance. Well what do you know when I am finally out of wireless range andI want to watch my movies it won't let me because it wants to connect to the internet. Things like this are why Apple still dominates media heavy devices. If I have paid for a rental I should be able to watch it with or without wireless connectivity for the period that I rented it for.
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Ugh. This happened to me too! I stocked up on movies for a 12-hour Santiago, Chile to LAX flight only to find out I couldn't watch them without an internet connection. I love the Tab 10.1 over an iPad but you gotta be kidding me. Who thought of this crap?! I was furious. Apple has similar rules but once you start watching it, the device itself will disable it in 24 hours. WTF were they thinking?
Can I just throw out here that all this complaining (which really shouldn't be on XDA, a developer website) is directed towards the tablet, when in reality the problem is one single crappy software application. There's many, many ways to watch video on the tablet that don't require an internet connection. In fact, I'd venture a guess that there's more ways to watch than with the iPad (gasp!). But here you are complaining and comparing tablets, when in reality you should just spend a second figuring out how to watch your videos without the internet connection. I'm sure the time you spent complaining about it (on a developer website) could have been spent looking for a solution. BTW- if you read the not-so-small print on the media hub page you'd know that you needed an internet connection to watch.
General Rule-of-Thumb:
Any app with "Samsung" preceding it's name, you can assume it's ****!
Offline viewing solution for samsung media hub
cbpagent72 said:
I went on a trip recently to a location that had limited internet connectivity. I decided to download some movies from the Samsung media hub in advance. Well what do you know when I am finally out of wireless range andI want to watch my movies it won't let me because it wants to connect to the internet. Things like this are why Apple still dominates media heavy devices. If I have paid for a rental I should be able to watch it with or without wireless connectivity for the period that I rented it for.
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Hello everyone,
Don't be upset...you can play these movies offline...what you have to do is whenever you download or rent a movie you have to play the movie for at least 1 minute while logged in...This is the time that media hub tranfers the license to play the movie offline to your device. I had this same issue as well..but I read the samsung media hub pdf and those were the instructions to play it offline...I know...ITS BASS Ackwards for media hub to deploy it this way...but that is the way it works for....it works well for me and I now have no issues with rentals or purchases. For your guys convenience I"ve attached the pdf from samsung media hub...hope this helps and happy offline movie watching
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BarryH_GEG said:
Wow, how stupid. I just tried it with some TV shows I purchased outright and it needs a signal in order to launch. Once it's launched and you're signed in it allows you to watch what's on your Tab without being connected. But you have to keep it running in the background because if it's closed it'll need a signal again to log you back in. Not really well thought out at all.
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Hello everyone,
Don't be upset...you can play these movies offline...what you have to do is whenever you download or rent a movie you have to play the movie for at least 1 minute while logged in...This is the time that media hub tranfers the license to play the movie offline to your device. I had this same issue as well..but I read the samsung media hub pdf and those were the instructions to play it offline...I know...ITS BASS Ackwards for media hub to deploy it this way...but that is the way it works for....it works well for me and I now have no issues with rentals or purchases. For your guys convenience I"ve attached the pdf from samsung media hub...hope this helps and happy offline movie watching..file is too large so here is the pdf link(replace the word dot with a period...I'm a new user and xda wouldn't allow me to post a link yet...haven't reached my 10 post:
(wwwdotcspiredotcom/DiscoverCenter/phones-apps/updates/galaxys_media_hub.pdf

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