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Light bleed

Are any of you experiencing light bleed like the ASUS Transformers are experiencing?
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I did with a dead pixel... I called Samsung and they will repair it.

But what about light bleed specifically?
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Is the Sammy panel edge lit like the asus?
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yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.

I just sent back my Transformer, and preordered this tab. The sleep issues and the light bleed are no worth getting that device. I tried to talk to tech support and they told me to take out the battery. that I could turn it over and pop it out like a laptop battery. Then they told me basically that if I didn't charge it for 8 hours it wouldn't work. ASUS Tech support was a nightmare. Samsung was a little slow with updates to my captivate... But I still love em. If this has a little bleed I wouldn't be too worried with it. It's the nature of backlite LED screens. It even happens on high end monitors and TVs. Until they come out with something else... It's going to be an issue. you just have to keep sending it back until you get one that doesn't bother you... that or turn down the brightness. In order to get it to do it you really need to crank up the brightness and walk into a dark room. IMO that's not to practical for normal use.

Which thread?
leyvatron said:
yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.
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I didn't see that black /yellow bleed thing. I would like to see that. I would just send it back.

X10D3 said:
I didn't see that black /yellow bleed thing. I would like to see that. I would just send it back.
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Light bleed usually only visible in the dark with dark screen backgrounds. I saw a review today on YouTube from mobile tech review and when they show some movie clips you can faintly see bleed lower right and right side.

this is what I was asking about
leyvatron: yes.... check out the other threads.. people are reporting them with lots of tablets. The black bleeds yellow.
I haven't seen that yet. Where the colors are messed up like that.

Luckily no dead pixels and no light bleed.

my limited edition tab has backlight bleed and a dead pixel, I wonder if I can even get it repaired or not...

Damonkashu said:
my limited edition tab has backlight bleed and a dead pixel, I wonder if I can even get it repaired or not...
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Yes you can...search some of the other threads for the io support link.

Bought a retail version at the Union Sq Best Buy here in NYC, one spot on the screen (less than a square inch) would show "liquid" under the screen when depressed (I noticed it when I was wiping my fingerprints from the screen). Exchanged it hoping to get a grey model,but got the white one again.
Well that one had a slight light bleed on the button left corner and was only noticeable when the honeycomb controls disappear.
Today I exchanged it for another one, and it looks like a keeper.

No light bleed or dead pixels, at least none that I can see. Hardwarewise my tab seems perfect.

Model GT-P7510
Mines the new 32g model and I don't notice hardy any bleed at all on the screen... even after carefully examining the edges and trying to view at angle to see under the bezel I don't see anything I would call a bleed issue. Actually also having an Ipad I love screen on the new 10.1

I have both and I have absolutely no bleed and dead pixels on the GT.
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same here, no bleed and no dead pixels. I can actually us this as an snooker reader now. the TV and load don't get dark enough. I read with red text on black. even at fu- brightness there is no bleed.

I have light bleed in the bottom right corner. I noticed it right off the bat. I'm exchanging it tomorrow. Let's hope the next one doesn't have the issue!

Yeah, thought mine was perfect, then noticed in the top right corner there is a spot about 1“ square. Didn't notice it until I booted up in a room with dim lighting. I might go exchange it out.

[Q] Light Bleed? Common issue? Faulty?

Hi,
I have just received my Asus TF today, and I absolutely love it!
However I have just noticed that in the middle of the screen @ the very bottom the light is slightly bleeding out (ie there is a lighter spot on the black bar).
Its just right above the docking point.
Is this a common issue / design, or is mine faulty?
Sorry, its probably a completely stupid question, but I just want to figure out if I should be asking for a new one....

It's a common issue, you're not alone.
Some of us have returned TF's with light bleed, while others accept it.

If you just have one section at the bottom, keep it. Mine had four different areas of bleed.

I have light bleeding but only noticeable when showing pure full screen black picture in a dark room. So its not really a big deal for me ( I guess nothing is perfect). However, I wonder if others have worse.

I have some light bleed at the bottom of my screen in 3 different areas. Its not too bad and i can only see it on a black screen. Its better ecer since i put the sceen on auto brightness

this problem will exist with LG ips screen. :O

Got my replacement from BestBuy today, Original had one bad light bleed and 3 smaller ones. Also had a dead pixel in the middle of the screen.
New one has small light bleed in lower corner, hardly noticeable and no dead pixels.
Now I just need to pick a ROM to put on ;-)

xufuchang said:
this problem will exist with LG ips screen. :O
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No. No it will not. LG IPS panels do not even have backlights; not inherently, anyway.
I hate when people blame light bleed on IPS. It's not the IPS technology, it's the poor quality edge-lighting

dorino1 said:
No. No it will not. LG IPS panels do not even have backlights; not inherently, anyway.
I hate when people blame light bleed on IPS. It's not the IPS technology, it's the poor quality edge-lighting
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Then it's LG's messed up edge-lit lighting.

ericc191 said:
Then it's LG's messed up edge-lit lighting.
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Yes, that's probably true. Asus might be responsible for the backlight, or they may have bought it from yet another third party, but it's probably LG's.

Mine has very small ribboning of light at the bottom of the screen, would have never noticed in normal use. I checked my Ipad that I have had for a year and its exactly the same and in the same place, never noticed till I looked for it. Possibly all tablets have LB to some extent if its not noticible in every day use its only a problem if it bothers you looking at a black screen in a dark room

PaulGG said:
Mine has very small ribboning of light at the bottom of the screen, would have never noticed in normal use. I checked my Ipad that I have had for a year and its exactly the same and in the same place, never noticed till I looked for it. Possibly all tablets have LB to some extent if its not noticible in every day use its only a problem if it bothers you looking at a black screen in a dark room
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Not all tablets have lightbleed.
Most do, though, because of the form factor basically requiring edge-lit backlights, which are very tempermental

I just received mine yesterday & don't seem to have any light bleed. That is unless I don't know what I am looking for.
My only real issue seems to be with the power button. I have to push it 2 or 3 time for my transformer to wake up.

I have the same issue, 2 spots at the top of the screen. I don't think I ever see it though unless the display is entirely black or at least very dark. If it were much worse I'd consider getting a replacement, however from what I've read on the subject it doesn't seem to get (significantly) worse over time under normal conditions, however excess strain may worsen the effect. Thankfully the TF101 seems pretty solid so I don't think its going to be much of an issue.

Mine has it in about three or four places too, I don't really care about it though.

Sadly I just noticed two spots in the middle of my screen that are white. I do not think it is light bleed but I have already issued a RMA with NCIX on this.
I noticed that it is an issue on Amazon as well....according to this review.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R21G1E2O7DUE83/ref=cm_srch_res_rtr_alt_1
Dammit.
Ah well. Will RMA it and if that fails will get a refund and get a Acer Iconia instead.

Comparing B6O to B5O and B4O...

There are a lot of scattered reports that the B6O revision is better than the B5O revision.
Of those of you who have the B6O revision:
1. How many of you notice any of the issues such as creaking or backlight bleed?
2. How many of you actually have another revision unit to compared it to?
There are some people here saying they are considering selling their B4O or B5O at a loss to get a B6O. I'm trying to compile a source with which these people can make an educated choice. Is it really that much better or is it all just their imagination?

I have a B60 unit. I don't have any previous revisions to compare it to, but I can tell you that...
- Yes, mine creaks. The aluminum bezel is actually separating from the unit slightly in the bottom-right corner.
- Yes, there is backlight bleed. Several spots along the bottom and right edges of the screen.
- Yes, the speakers are still slightly unbalanced. As others discovered, this is a software issue, not a hardware issue.
I'm going to exchange mine today in store. Hopefully I'll have better luck with a replacement... Heck, maybe there's even a newer revision.

I just picked up a B60 version from Bestbuy retail store yesterday. It, so far, does not have any build issues that I am aware of . Love it

I just got my TF . Mine is a B50. Compared to my G2x, i dont notice any bleeding. Im sure there is some because of the nature of LCDs but no complaints. I cant tell and im not looking for an issue to just drive me crazy.
The case does creak though, lol. On the left side. Only once when i first pick it up. Nothing crazy.
Audio seems slightly left justified but compared to the 1 speaker on my ipad2... stereo is welcome regardless. Barely noticable. Sounds good. No more covering 1 speaker and losing audio ha.
Im happy. Walking into this device blindly, i love it. I dont know if its the stock keyboard or the screen sensitivity but it misses a few strokes. Could be me not used to a large keyboard.
It was locked up when i grabbed it this morning after charging all night. I think this is caused by Tegra drivers cause it seems common amoung tegra devices. Luckily its a tablet and not a phone you depend on to be going 24/7.
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newvet said:
I just picked up a B60 version from Bestbuy retail store yesterday. It, so far, does not have any build issues that I am aware of . Love it
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It's because you're not looking for them yet / aren't as picky.
- Crank up the brightness and stand in a dark room.
- The creaking/weak frame you'll start to notice as you use it.

I have a B40, and have some creaks only on the lower left side of the unit, when I use it outside of the case. (I have the portfolio case PRIME)
Some minor light bleed near the bottom right side of the unit, but very minor.
Compared to the Evo 3D where the bottom of that phone has light bleed.
The speakers are un-balanced until I saw the unbalanced left speaker thread, did and the OP said there and seems to be fixed now.

Mine is B5O. Slight creak near the volume and power keys, lightbleed (see pic) and unbalanced speakers (right one is louder). I decided to RMA it only because I'm going on holiday so I won't miss it too much. Actually the more I read about other units and how Asus is handling RMA the more doubts I have if I should send it...

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It's because you're not looking for them yet / aren't as picky.
- Crank up the brightness and stand in a dark room.
- The creaking/weak frame you'll start to notice as you use it.
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If I only find any light bleed in those conditions I can live it. But a seriously weakening frame would cause me to jump ship. 13 days to make up my mind. But so far so good. Thanks for helping me take notice

I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!

B50, light bleed at the top left(not bad), not really creaky but the bezel does move a bit. Dead pixel about 1cm from the right side of the screen in the middle vertically. 1 dust remnant under rear camera lens.

Grumsh said:
I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!
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+1 here. Except I don't have any scratches. So far, so good with my B50!

newvet said:
If I only find any light bleed in those conditions I can live it. But a seriously weakening frame would cause me to jump ship. 13 days to make up my mind. But so far so good. Thanks for helping me take notice
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The backlight bleed doesn't bother me either. But people want to know if it's there, not if you don't notice it or if it doesn't bother you.
People read these posts of people saying "My transformer is PERFECT! It doesn't have any problems!" and they go nuts thinking theirs is horribly defective.
The Transformer is $100 less than the competition. They had to cut corners somewhere.
I'm only exchanging mine in hopes that it will have a slightly stronger frame (like I said, the aluminum bezel is actually coming off on mine). I'm still expecting it to have build quality issues though.
Grumsh said:
I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!
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Yes it does. You're just ignoring it or haven't noticed it yet.

I have a small bleed in the middle of the bottom bar.
However it locked up again while i sat it down for an hour. Like it has problems recovering from standby. Running Prime. The G2x did that until Cm7 fixed it.
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The Transformer is $100 less than the competition. They had to cut corners somewhere.
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And the competition has "cut" the exact same corners, despite the higher price tag. Plenty of reports of light bleed, case creak, etc. from the Apple crowd too. They just have a higher proportion of fanboys among their userbase, who will go to any length to pretend that problems don't exist.

I've got a B50. I received three (all B50) from Newegg during the month of June. I kept #2 as it was by far the best of the bunch. As Newegg cross ships replacements, I held unto #2 until I received #3 and they let me send back the newer one since it was also defective.
It still has a couple of flaws:
Light bleed: Although it has the least bleed of the 3 I received, there are still 6-7 small spots visible along the top and bottom when I use the Transformer in the dark even at around 50% brightness. Not noticeable during the day or in a lit room. Even the largest only extends about 1/2 an inch up the screen.
Speakers: Left produces noticeably less volume than the right. This defect was present on all 3 tablets I received. I noticed this immediately and confirmed with the YouTube left/right speaker test.
Dead pixel: One dead pixel. Each of the three had at least one; the first unit I received also had a speck of dust under the screen, the third a larger discolored patch in the middle of the screen. It would be very hard to notice the dead pixel if you were not specifically looking for it. I used the Dead Pixel Test app: near the top of the screen, there is one pin point sized dot that is light grey on a white screen, undetectable on a black screen, and grey/light black on a blue or green screen. There is no dust visible so it must be a screen defect.
White Residue: Very small (third of an inch) thin line along the top of the black border on top. Able to clean most of it off although still faintly visible if you look closely. Could be partly scratched too, not sure.
On the plus side, my Transformer has no creakiness and no separation between the screen and the black border. The other two I received both had easily visible gaps.
I decided the quest for the perfect Transformer was endless and futile. NewEgg refunded me $25 for the hassle of two exchanges; with the $10 coupon I also used, I got my Transformer for $365. For the price, I'm pleased enough with the device.

Mine is also B50 and it has 2 light leaks on the bottom. It did not have creaks when purchased 1 month ago, but now it is creeking horribly on the whole left side under the volume button. IMHO, it is a faulty design. If yours is tight now, don't be surprised when it gets loose and creaky after a little while.

Great attitude: -Do you have any problems with the device? -Nothing at all. -Yes you have dear sir, yes you have!

Just bought my tablet and dock yesterday from Best Buy. B60 Tablet, B50 dock. Tablet feels sturdy but with a slight give on the screen. There is slight light bleed on the bottom left corner. I haven't noticed any speaker issues, I was actually pleasantly surprised. From what I've read in reviews I thought they'd be horrible, but it actually fine for me.
Nothing wonky about the dock yet. Everything seems to work. Overall, I'm pretty happy with it .

I have no clue what revision mine is (don't know how to tell!; but it was purchased way back in may). I can't say I have any real issues; minor light bleed; speakers are more or less balanced but so darn awful I'm not sure it matters (i normally use klipsch s4; which are great on airplanes - nearly 100% isolation). THere is minor backlighting; no obvious dead pixels. Maybe I'm just not picky but I really don't have any significant separation or creaks. Wish it had a usb port.
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Most of my complaints are software. I have' a few weird periods were part of the screen stop responding to touch (really annoying when trying to unlock the screen and 2 of the numbers won't respond to touch) but reboot always fix the glitches.
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I have a B40; which make sense given the purchase date.

You can check your revision from the serial number (sticker affixed to the box and under your Transformer, next to the charge port). It's the first three characters.

[POLL] Does your Transformer have light bleed?

Be honest. Does your Transformer have light bleed or not.

Yes - Minor
Worst Section: Dim in bottom left corner (spreads to about 1.5 inches from edge)

We have two 16gb Transformers in the house. Both have a small amount of lightbleed on the bottom edge.
I consider it a minor issue. Doesn't bother me much at all.

Yes but it is minor. top right
Light bleed is expected with IPS panels, thats just the way they work. My iPad 2 had light bleed 2, it used an IPS panel. My G2X has light bleed, uses a IPS panel.

brett_day said:
Yes but it is minor. top right
Light bleed is expected with IPS panels, thats just the way they work. My iPad 2 had light bleed 2, it used an IPS panel. My G2X has light bleed, uses a IPS panel.
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+1 you should of really added an option.. SORT OF. I voted no because it was very minor and not really noticeable unless 0.2 inch light bleed from the bottom bothers you.
It has nothing to do with ASUS or the Transformer. It's just the way the screen technology was made.

very very minor light bleed at the bottom. not at all distracting, dont really notice it unless youre looking for it.

Yes. In a dark room, with a dark screen, there is the slightest amount of light leak. More than I've ever seen on this type of screen, but less than it would take to make me notice if I wasn't looking for it.
But then maybe I've been spoiled by my n1 screen!

bottom right corner, doesnt affect the use though.
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Great, keep your results coming. I thought about multiple selections such as "small amount, it doesn't bother me" or "huge amount" but I just wanted to keep it simple. You do or do not have light bleed. I see this leak is common on IPS screens but some are just worse than others. Mine bleeds out from the lower left 1" at its source and continues up the entire left side. It is 2 weeks old and was this bad right out of the box! Thanks to everyone participating!

I can't find any. I have B60 serial.

Yes mine B40 does. As others have said, it's not bad enough to effect use, just a bit annoying. But we've been through so many threads regarding light bleed I think we all accept it at this point.

My B50 does too, bad one on the center left side, 2 smaller ones in the bottom center, a few really small ones on the right side, no noticeable bleeds on the top half.
90% of them are only visible at full brightness on a dark background, in a dark room. It doesn't bother me.

I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.

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I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.
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Me too Deadman3000, I'm not that annoyed by it. A little light leak seems to be inherent with the IPS screen technology. My new one is worse than my first one that had that lost it's screen completely. It had maybe 5 mm of leak at best and the second one has 25 mm of leak in places. The first was a B5 tablet and my new one is a B6. But I think by watching the posts throughout the day it is pretty consistant that 2 out of 3 have enough light bleed to bother owners enough to post a yes. That is the answer I was looking for. I notice that bringing up this issue seems to bother people and I would agree that there are posts everyday about it but when I searched, I couldn't find an actual number to put with this issue. So I apologize to those that were offended that hey had to endure yet another light bleed thread but I think we now have a little more knowledge today than we did yesterday... That is the purpose of our forum, to learn.

I have had my Transformer since launch. I have to say, until I started looking for it I never noticed any light bleed, even then it is minimal at best and definitely does not bother me. I have been reading about B40, B50, B60 serials and was wondering if anyone with a B30 serial is having any of the build quality issues ect. that everyone else seems to having. I have a B30 serial and I am quite happy with my device.

Yep, only a little bit on the bottom left corner. I never realised it was a bad thing until a week or so after I got mine I saw all the threads here about it I think it looks kinda cool when I'm reading a book.

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I have light bleed on all sides to a greater or lesser degree. It bothers me only a little though.
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Same here. But I don't pay much attention
Most of the time, my brightness is low, so not seeing it much

My previous B50 tab had minor light bleed at the bottom, particularly the lower right. It was noticeble only at Max bridgeness in the dark.
My current B60 tab had no light bleed at all

Pretty substantial on my B50, from all sides but the top. It's not unusable by any stretch, but it ain't pretty. Almost seems like it's become worse over the last month. Is that possible, or is it my imagination?

Yes, but you cant hold it at an angle and see the backlight, its just some coming through the back of the panel and its only visible if you have a bright backlit screen that is basically all black and you are in a very dark space. Its no different than any other LCD item I have used, even iProducts.

Display Quality? Who's having issues with light bleed?

Honestly I'm a bit disappointed by the quality of the screen. I have some major light bleed at the lower left hand corner of the screen. Hard to unseen once I've noticed it.
Anyone else experiencing the same?

Lightbleed probably guaranteed from the top half near the camera...
Worth checking that out too...

I must be one of the luckier ones. Zero bleed for me.
Mine was a very early unit too (purchased in Taiwan on release day)

no light bleed here too.

Zero light bleed here. I have one of the pre-order US units.

Light bleed from the second screen but only​ when brightness is jacked up, which is often for watching video. No better nor worse than my old V10's 2nd screen but disappointing nonetheless.

Hi all I also have no light bleed anywhere on the screen and have to say I have mine on full brightness nearly all of the time and tend to use dark wallpapers so if it was there would of shown by now. I have to also say the screen is absolutely brilliant being bright and clear and one of the reasons I chose the Ultra was for its super LCD over being a amoled screen.
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I just went through 2 white U Ultras in Canada...and sadly...both had the same light bleed issues. I really like the device...but in the end...I had to send them back and get a refund. HTC seems good about it though. Maybe I will pick it up again in another couple of months after a price cut.

Black HTC Ultra : No light bleed

HTC or Amazon recognize the light bleed as a defect that justifies the replacement or return with refund?
I have an HTC U Ultra with a light bleed at the lower left corner

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Yes I'm having the same problem I'm noticing on the left upper corner there is a little leak of light very disappointed because this phone was bought from ebay I'm not going to send it back it will take forever to fix it

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Yes I'm having the same problem I'm noticing on the left upper corner there is a little leak of light very disappointed because this phone was bought from ebay I'm not going to send it back it will take forever to fix it
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I got a light leak too.
I will have to live with that forever. I really wish i could sell it.