3 phones in 3 days...what are the odds? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Got my MT4G wednesday...couldn't root with visionary
Got it replaced yesterday...couldn't root with visionary
Got it replayed today...can't root with visionary.
3 phones, in 3 days...all cannot root with visionary
Something weird is going on here. The odds of this happening have to be astronomical, or is this phone going to sh*t now?

I also had problems Rooting a friends new MT4G a couple days ago with the VISIONary Method and Thats all I had ever used. I think it's somthing with the new phones? Did you try the G-FREE Method?

No cause Gfree is windows and I have OSX, so I'm SOL on that...which is why I'll probably switch to the G2X if I can't get to another computer with windows.

use cm method

bosina said:
use cm method
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which is what? Never even heard of that...

You keep replacing your device because you can't root it? Seriously? Why? You think the devices are damaged in some way because you can't root them?

coupetastic-droid said:
You keep replacing your device because you can't root it? Seriously? Why? You think the devices are damaged in some way because you can't root them?
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So it's my computer's fault?
There is a thread going on about bad eMMC's that won't allow you to root...so yes, it is the device...
way to be a d*ck dude!

I think you're likely incorrect about the reason you can't root it. My myTouch4G has the good eMMC, yet I was unable to root it using Visionary. Gfree worked without a hitch though. Also, why do you think gfree is exclusive to any OS? I think it should work on any OS, as gfree is executed on the phone, not via your PC. You run gfree through terminal emulator or through adb shell.

I've gone through half a dozen mytouch 4gs because they all keep turning off on me. I get the feeling that t-mobile just sends out refurb after refurb so you keep getting phones with the bad chip. At least I wouldn't be surprised considering my experience with this phone.
I also have the M4G2DE chip and I could not root with visionary. I don't know if my sleep of death problems are related to this but like I said before I wouldn't be surprised.

crawler9 said:
I think you're likely incorrect about the reason you can't root it. My myTouch4G has the good eMMC, yet I was unable to root it using Visionary. Gfree worked without a hitch though. Also, why do you think gfree is exclusive to any OS? I think it should work on any OS, as gfree is executed on the phone, not via your PC. You run gfree through terminal emulator or through adb shell.
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excuse me, according to the thread in the general section, the MT4G can come with bad eMMC's. I have no proof of this of course, just going off what I read. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, when I see other's with the same issues at least.
The instructions on the gfree method are for windows...do the same exact commands apply to OSX if I use terminal? I'm not a mac guy, by any means, but I figured commands and all would be different between OS's.

Yes, it's highly suspected that certain eMMcs are more prone to failing, though this hasn't definitively been determined yet.
The instructions in the gfree thread should be universal. I used them successfully on Ubuntu. For some reason, I couldn't get Visionary to properly function on my device either. Apparently it did work after a factory reset, after I restored it to stock again, but first time around, I used z4root to temp root and manually installed the superuser application from the market instead of the step that tells you to use Visionary in the gfree instructions.

crawler9 said:
Yes, it's highly suspected that certain eMMcs are more prone to failing, though this hasn't definitively been determined yet.
The instructions in the gfree thread should be universal. I used them successfully on Ubuntu. For some reason, I couldn't get Visionary to properly function on my device either. Apparently it did work after a factory reset, after I restored it to stock again, but first time around, I used z4root to temp root and manually installed the superuser application from the market instead of the step that tells you to use Visionary in the gfree instructions.
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but what's the "C" drive called on OSX (as per the instructions)...right now my android-sdk-mac_x64 folder is in the macintosh hd

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but what's the "C" drive called on OSX (as per the instructions)...right now my android-sdk-mac_x64 folder is in the macintosh hd
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I don't see any mention at all of the C drive in the gfree thread. Are you following the same thread I am? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996

crawler9 said:
I don't see any mention at all of the C drive in the gfree thread. Are you following the same thread I am? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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yup same thread, but in order to get to the "tools" portion, you had to do C right? It says I'm supposed to "cd your way to your SDK tools directory"...how do you do that on OSX?
cause when I do step 4 ""adb push gfree /data/local""....I type that into terminal and it says "command not found"

bballcat03 said:
yup same thread, but in order to get to the "tools" portion, you had to do C right? It says I'm supposed to "cd your way to your SDK tools directory"...how do you do that on OSX?
cause when I do step 4 ""adb push gfree /data/local""....I type that into terminal and it says "command not found"
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Never used MAC OS, but it seems like the cd command would work the same way. Just open terminal or a prompt or whatever you use in MAC and type "ls" and hit enter. That should show you all the files or directories in that folder. Use that to find your way around to where your SDK is located. To go up a folder, you can type "cd .." or to enter another folder located in your current working directory, "cd insertfoldernamehere". Maybe someone with a little more experience with MACs can help you with exactly where your SDK is, but that should help if you can play around with it for a while.

@crawler9 u must have great patients for ignorance... if he can't figure out how to use his comp, goodluck on getting him to understand android... not trying to sound like a **** OP but educate urself a bit more on things u r unsure of..
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thederekjay said:
@crawler9 u must have great patients for ignorance... if he can't figure out how to use his comp, goodluck on getting him to understand android... not trying to sound like a **** OP but educate urself a bit more on things u r unsure of..
Sent from my demonSPEED Glacier
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thanks @$$.
I had a MT4G before, but I was on windows...I could do everything perfectly fine, never had an issue. Flashed and rooted flawlessly
But I switched to mac, and don't know my way around this full yet. So I'm trying to admittedly re-learn everything as I went a few months without my MT4G before getting it replaced.
Thanks for your input! Next time just keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything constructive to add, hmmm?

bballcat03 said:
which is what? Never even heard of that...
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http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
that is cm method...
\the best you can find and the most easy

Thanks everyone for the help! Got it rooted and up and running...finally. Trial and error might not be fun, but it get's the job done and you learn!

I rooted mine using the gfree method and didn't even have to touch a computer... All through terminal...
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Related

Thank you!

I'm sure you guys here at XDA don't hear it enough so let me just say thanks. I've spent the last hour changing my G1 from RC30 to JF 1.51. it took most of the time figuring out that the terminal program I was using wasn't giving me root, I did some smart using of the "search" function and realized I had to use pterminal.apk. but to say the least I'm up to date with cupcake, and I have root. You might want to update the how-to thread. Now just to get it so I can run apps of my sdcard... search away!
thats good to hear people rooting their phone without having to start like 10 threads on how they did it or what they need to do.
getting it setup is a little harder then I'd hoped, I'm trying to figure out how to set it up so my terminal has root access. I thought I would still have root, however the terminal that comes with JF 1.51 is just giving me the $ sign.
what happens when you press su in the terminal??
its supposed to ask you if you wanna allow it or deny it and it goes on the whitelist program.
Thanks! I missed that step somewhere. I am unfortunately a windows users, so I don't have the know-how with linux, it's an unfortunate blite on my record. I'm trying though! lol
Denkai said:
Thanks! I missed that step somewhere. I am unfortunately a windows users, so I don't have the know-how with linux, it's an unfortunate blite on my record. I'm trying though! lol
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i myself am a windows user also... most of the steps here are for windows, unless otherwise noted.
but yeah when you enter su in the terminal for the first time it should ask you for permission
crap, I was using the appstosd2 program and now my phone is stuck on the g1 screen... a recovery with wipe didn't help either.

[Q] Root Help myTouch 4G (SOLVED)

Hey there everyone. I have a myTouch and when I try and root using visionary it says that I am already rooted but if i go into the terminal emulator and I typer in su it says permission denied. I already wiped the os, cache, and sd. Please help
Thanks
macfan74318
Use the Manual method found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
But the problem is that I can not even get temp root. VISIONary says there is root but the terminal says permission denied when I try and get root access.
Try installing the superuser app from the market
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Thanks it worked perfectly.
Thanks
macfan74318
macfan74318 said:
Thanks it worked perfectly.
Thanks
macfan74318
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Edit you post as solved.
thelamacmdr said:
Try installing the superuser app from the market
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macfan74318 said:
Thanks it worked perfectly.
Thanks
macfan74318
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Seriously?! That's it? Ha!
What?
Why do you think that this is so funny. You have been their at one point and who knows someone else could have the problem and now they know what to do. Attitudes like this is what will lead to the downfall of the android developer community.
macfan74318 said:
Why do you think that this is so funny. You have been their at one point and who knows someone else could have the problem and now they know what to do. Attitudes like this is what will lead to the downfall of the android developer community.
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No dude you got me wrong. I'm just amused that the problem is really solved that simply. It would never have occurred to me to try that. I've only just started playing with visionary on my phone about half an hour ago so I have virtually zero experience rooting the mt4g so far.
Was not talking **** but I totally appreciate your supportive attitude and I agree with your statements. I was a super-noob and am still pretty darn noobish. I actually enjoy helping where I can and I put links in my sig in case they come in handy for others.
Oh... Sorry for coming off so harsh.
Do you have any questions or need any help?
macfan74318
Since this is no longer development related, I am moving to General section
Okay. Sorry for being off topic. But if you need help please ask here.
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macfan74318 said:
Oh... Sorry for coming off so harsh.
Do you have any questions or need any help?
macfan74318
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No worries, your heart was in the right place. I think I'm ok for now. Going out of town this weekend so won't be able to play with this until probably tuesday night.
Also kinda waiting for CM6 to be available for our phones.
Yup Cyanogen Mod 6.1 will be amazing. They have already booted it but the status of the ROM is unknown
macfan74318 said:
Yup Cyanogen Mod 6.1 will be amazing. They have already booted it but the status of the ROM is unknown
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Well it boots, but nothing works yet. Give them time.
Well kmobs says that "more will be released tonight". Maybe we will get a nightly build!
Can someone help me root my mt4g.i need wifi tethering.
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How to root
First Question? Do you get and OTA Update (You can check by going to System -> About Phone -> Software Information. If you have gotten the update then under Android version it would say 2.2.1.
Next you need to follow this guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
What I did is I downloaded the program droid explorer (PC) (http://de.codeplex.com/) and it set up the whole adb system. All I did was to plug the phone in and copy the two files using Super Manager (Phone) and the ran the 2 commands minus the adb part of the command.
Download Visionary (http://android.modaco.com/content/t...350/10-nov-r12-test-visionary-one-click-root/) and then copy the apk file to your sd card.
Then mount your phone to your pc and copy the two files on to the root of your SD Card
Then open up super manager and go to settings and Enable ROOT Function, and show hidden files.
Then go the the copied files and cut them (Hi-light check box and hit the pair of scissors)
The keep navigating up one level until you cant go up anymore.
Then navigate to data
Then inside of data select local and paste the files there.
Then plug your phone in but dont mount it ( When you plug in it pull down the notification bar and select USB CONNECTION Change Type and change it to charge only.
The open Droid Explorer and it will recognize your phone
Look on the tool bar and hit the icon that looks like the command prompt icon.
The type su an on your phone you will get a prompt for superuser on your phone accept it.
Then copy and paste the following commands
insmod /data/local/wpx.ko You should get an error stating "function not implemented" this is what you want
dd if=/data/local/hboot_dhd.nb0 of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
Then type sync and wait about 5 min and then reboot.
Complete Credit for this guide goes to grankin01 I just broke it down step by step.
Hope this helps
Macfan

[Q] Question about the Terms..

Hi, I am looking to root my MT4G.. but I always see "root at your own risk" etc... Well, I am ready to root at my own risk, however I don't really know enough to want to attempt thsi yet.. so I am looking for a general thread explaining what this stuff is and how it is explained..(definitions for commonly used terms and acronyms..) someone please point me somewhere.... Thank you.
I have been looking for a thread that answers these questions I have and I haven't found one in about a week, so I posted this...however I literally just found one, that I think answers most of my questions @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859446&highlight=guide sooo any MOD please close or delete my thread, and I am sorry for wasting your time.
I used grankin01's instructions...
I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.
I have rooted 3 MT4G's using the following guide by grankin01...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
It really can't be any easier. I started out on a G1 and rooting was not this easy back then. To paraphrase grankin01's instructions (please read his instructions carefully and do this at your own risk)...
1. Download and install VISIONary
2. Extract that root.rar file to your sdcard. This is where a lot of people got messed up. There's a 'root' folder within a 'root' folder 'cause the person who originally .RAR'd these files, RAR'd a 'root' folder. Basically, when all is said and done, you should have a folder named 'root' on your SD Card. Within the 'root' folder, will be 3 files - hboot_dhd.nb0, Root.sh & wpx.ko.
3. Run VISIONary and click Temproot now - you now have temporary root access
4. Download and run Terminal Emulator and execute the commands outlined in grankin01's post. You will be prompted to restart. Once your phone boots back up, run VISIONary again only this time, click Attempt permoot now. Your screen will go black and eventually, the phone will reboot.
On two occassions, when I was doing this on replacement MT4G's I received, I forgot to enable USB Debugging. I found that VISIONary would just spin its wheels at the Temproot portion. After rebooting the phone and trying again, VISIONary actually prompted with an error to let me know USB Debugging had to be enabled. Totally my fault, but the app just spins its wheels at first, so you don't really know what's up until you reboot and try again.
To recap:
- VISIONary temproot
- Commands outlined in grankin01's post
- VISIONary permroot
It really is quite easy to do! If anything, there are plenty of redundant posts that explain how to get root access. I hope my info above doesn't add to the mire.
shlongwoodian said:
I know there's a lot of info out there, especially if you just search for "root." It can be a bit daunting at first, especially if you're not oriented properly.
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I think that is why I posted this... Because I have been searching but I don't know what exactly to search for, or what step to do such thinigs in...I appreciate the help. I am currently following the s=off perma root guide, however I am struggling at getting my ADB drivers installed correctly....sooo I have some tinkering to do but I am looking forward to rooting my phone, and I don't even know what that is gonna open up..CANT WAIT!!!
EDIT: I checked out your link, and I am using a guide written by him, i believe, but it is the one that is a little more complex, and causes a deeper perma root...
For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.
The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.
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For the ADB drivers just look on the sdcard that came with your phone. There should be a file named HTCDRIVER.EXE. Just copy that to your windows desktop and execute it. It will install the drivers you need. As for linux, my Kubuntu 10.10 installation saw my phone without any problems or driver installations.
The new guide with the "deeper" root actually is the better one to follow. Its really not as complicated or difficult as it looks.
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Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?
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Freaking awesome...in sitting here at work not looking forward to going home to another wasted two hours trying to set the driver up you just saved my day with that info about the driver...you sure it has the adb driver though..?
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Yeah, I had to install it for adb to work on my windows installation and it has saved several other people heartache too.
Ughhhh.. just found out I work at job #2 tonight...how FREAKING lame...like I wasted ALL my freetime not being able to figure it out last night and now that I think I know what to do... I have NO time...BLAH!!
Okay, so my ADB **** is still not working... I don't know why.. I am following the guide over at theunlockr.com and it still won't work.. I installed the SDK from google... I didnt DL the archives however... and then I installed the drivers off my SD card onto my computer, and when I open the Command prompt and type cd\ cd AndroidSDK\tools\ it says the directory does not exist... it says on the unlocr guide to try installing PDAneT and that might help, and so i did that as well, still says directory does not exist...ARGH this is frustrating!
Do you need perma root to boot into recovery?
I would just follow the visionary method so you won't even have to bother with adb. Just use root explorer to copy and past the files into the right directory. Did it on the bus, took me 5 minutes. No need to get true/deep root especially for someone just starting off. I promise, for all you'll be doing (and a hell of a lot more) you'll NEVER know the difference. Just gives you more options to screw up your phone. Start with perm root (set up the easy way), flash a rom or two, mess around with some cool apps for root users, figure out adb, and then work your way up to messing with the deeper system stuff (if you still feel need).
Just my 2ยข
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It sounds like you are looking in the wrong directory. Open your file browser and do a search for adb and pay attention to what folder it is in. My installation had like two subdirectories before I could even get to the tools directory on my windows drive.
That is if you still want to try adb. It is a valueable thing to learn. Espescially if your going to be doing these kinds of things to your devices. It can take a brick and turn it back into a phone if you know how to use it.
Thank you kind sirs you are very helpful to a pour nub such as myself...well it seems like I dont havr any freaking time ever so I think I might take c_licious's advice for now and read up on adb some more...i did see that in the thread its easy to convert from the perma root to the deep perma root so think that's what ill do. Thank you grankin for the tip on finding adb drivers that will definitely come in handy when I get to that. Yayyyyy!!!!
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Anyone going to do a 1 click root ?

Non of the rooting methods are working for me.
What is not working? I was having difficulties as well but found a workaround.
I have rooted and flashed my Vibrant but cannot understand the directions enough to attempt to root the Nexus S. I have tried hooking the phone up to adb which is installed on my PC but it does not recognize the device and says permission denied. I am confused do I use adb? Do I use fast boot ( which I have no idea how to use)? I have used Terminal Emulator on the Vibrant and my Nexus One but you have to have root to use it. I know I am not very educated in these matters but any all help would be greatly appreciated, other than I should take the phone back and get a refund as I am not bright enough to own one!! Which I have been told.They may be right LOL LOL
In my opinion, the creators of wonderful one click rooting apps like z4root, universal one click root, visionary etc. should try to integrate support for nexus S in their upcoming builds.
aliwaqas said:
In my opinion, the creators of wonderful one click rooting apps like z4root, universal one click root, visionary etc. should try to integrate support for nexus S in their upcoming builds.
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These root options use a security exploit that don't work anymore on Gingerbread (tested yesterday on IRC #NSdev)
What no more one-click roots! Err....
I get adbwinapi.dll not found when I type fastboot devices
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I get adbwinapi.dll not found when I type fastboot devices
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I was just lazy in setting up my ADB/Fastboot and stopped for work at this point, but interesting that I have the same issue.
I don't think it can't get any easier than: fastboot oem unlock
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I get adbwinapi.dll not found when I type fastboot devices
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in the latest SDK revision they moved adb to \platform-tools. you need to change the PATH variable to that folder and restart your computer for it to take effect
Good call. Thanks >;]
slowz3r said:
in the latest SDK revision they moved adb to \platform-tools. you need to change the PATH variable to that folder and restart your computer for it to take effect
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Good call. Thanks >;]
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no problemo, at first I didnt realize it either

How to Root your MT4G using a Mac.

Guess what, you're not going to root using a Mac. I've been screwing around for days trying to root my HTC MyTouch 4G only to find out that it just won't work using a Mac. Does ANYONE have any ideas besides buying a PC?
I tried to post in the Android Development forum, but I have to wait for my 10th post before I "qualify".
I've been getting errors, S=ON, root.rar, just about everything. STILL UNABLE TO ROOT. I can temp root with Visionary r11, but try finding r11. I can also view the contents of my SD card. I have done a factory hard reset, pulled the battery, pulled my hair out, and even invented a few cuss words with Apple and iMac as the suffix.
Is anyone else using an iMac that had success? I've seen a few threads where people have said it "should" work. After trying to root since Thursday, and now it's Saturday, I'm all out of patience. AND...my O.C.D. medication (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder) is running out. Should I throw in the towel and go back to my Metro PCS Go Phone?
"Please have a look at those threads before you start a new one." Yes, I did. I looked through every post I could find. I've downloaded Zip file converters, SyncMate (which will NOT uninstall- it invaded ther Mac O.S.), as well as other programs.
Please, if you have any ideas regarding Macs and rooting, I'd appreciate it. (My wife would too).
Brad
Whaaa you know you don't even need computer to root right? So forget the PC/Mac BS just use the Visionary meth and download root.sh to your SDCard and then from terminal run the script, reboot. If you need help let me know, I repeat you don't even need computer.
I tried that once in the beginning. I'll try that again. I'm just wondering if it's really worth it to root using this method. When I want to flash a new ROM, or get into the heavy duty mods, I'm sure it will be a pain in the keester without a computer.
Ill tell you little secret don't tell anyone okay? You don't even need freaking computer to do anything. You can download whatever you need directly in SDCard and flash it. If you do need to do something you can do it via terminal before or after. So root using Visionary as I said and then download the rom directly in your SDCard and then flash it.
That's the truth, you don't need a computer to do crap. You can use the gfree method if you want too, just temp root and use Root explorer, or any other system file manager to do all the things adb push would have to do.

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