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Hmmm!!?? purple-ish screen tint on lowest brightness on my new NS

Well I used to cause a big fit about the N1's HTC would warranty swap me because of this issue. The first N1 I purchased didnt have this problem. I just bought the NS today and right away I noticed the same exact issue. Is it safe to say that maybe this should be considered a normality rather than a defect?

Its actually the Amoled tech itself...It cant reproduce whites perfectly so they come out cool....thats why its off a bit but in return you get exact blacks
Lcd's are opposite...you get real whites but no real blacks.

It shows up in certain shades of grey, like in contacts and in clock dimmed while set on lowest brightness setting. The whites and other colors display fine.

Yeah i saw that too but thats the OS thats doing that so you should be cool

Is it either on the bottom or top? I have watched a YouTube unboxing video clip says that when you browse with your nexus s to the top of the page, or the the lowest of the page, it will actually dimmed darker. This is to let you know you have reached the lowest or highest of the page. You couldn't scroll anymore .
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

No, it has nothing to do with scrolling. It's exactly what I've said. Also I'm pretty positive its not a software issue. It's definitely the display. It must be either new materials Samsung is using for there displays or a calibration issue!

I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.

Nothin for me. No tint.

For me when I have the screen off I notice there is a purple tint to it compared to say a vibrant maybe that is the cause of you're problem

what i'm speaking of shows only while the screen is on.

aimfire72 said:
I also noticed this today, the purplish tint while on lowest screen brightness in a very dark room. If you bump up the brightness slightly, it goes away.
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This is right on the money. Same exact issue with my N1 and now i see it with the NS. I notice this on the N1's because my very 1st purchased unit displayed perfectly without any kind of discoloration after dimming the brighness below 50%. Soon after I warranty exchanged that unit for another, I recieved one with the tint issue. After I exchanged a couple more times, I recieved another without the tint issue but the touchscreen problem was much worse than the others i've had so i sent that one in. After that, i havent received one without the tint problem yet. I bought the NS expecting not to see this problem again and lo and behold, it surfaced as soon as i dimmed below 50%.

I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away

Psosmith82 said:
I checked out the demo phones, and every one had it on the lowest brightness setting. I think it has something to do with the new colors in the OS. If everything was black, it would be harder to see, so they use a little purple to differentiate when on a low brightness setting. You dont have to turn the brightness up much to make it go away
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The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.

princeasi said:
The issue I'm speaking about, it doesn't literally "go away" in the manner you might be thinking. Its just that certain shades of greys are affected by it. Here's how to test for it, goto a dimmly lighted area and set the brightness thru the power widget to highest. Next, goto the dialpad on your NS, and notice the bar topright below the menu tabs, it should be grey. Now go back to your power widget and switch brightness to lowest setting. Go back to the dialpad and look at that bar again. It still should remain grey no matter how I adjust the brightness levels, but instead it'll shift to a light purplish hue.
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It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.

RogerPodacter said:
It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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Yes I know about the subixel stuff with the amoled displays, but I have to disagree with you as far as all of them display this way. As I've mentioned before, I've had 2 N1's without this issue. I'm gonna go back to BB to see if they can open a couple so that I can do some comparisons.

As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.

RogerPodacter said:
It's because of the amoled screen uses the pentile sub pixel layout. I thought this was well known. All Samsung amoled screens do this as the all use pentile sub pixel layout, which many people hate as the feel its not as good as the true 3 sub pixel layout screens. And It's true it is not as good, but I still prefer it over non amoled screens, crap pentile and all.
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actually
this is not true. i had to go around 4 Galaxy S screens and finally i was able to find one without pinkish color in it in low brightness.
if you want to tell if you have pinkish hue. download a solid dark gray wallpaper. turn the brightness to low. if you see it pink. then you have defective screen. i repeat. its a defective screen. dont justify your self with it.
i went through 4 galaxy S and i was able to find one where white is actually white and closer the the cool blue. not a friggin pink
and its not amoled screen either. the iphone 4 is same issue. go to macrumors forum and check for your self.
i went through like 6 iphones to get one with cool blue and no yellow tint in it.
the difference is light and day now when i compare my iphone 4 to my other friends.
if you have an OCD with this " because i do. i have OCD for light leakage, same black level the whole screen, yellow/pink tint on the screen in low settings "
the whole phone to me is nothing but a big screen. if they f*** that up. then its useless

aimfire72 said:
As I said, mine is this way too, but went to 2 BB's tonight and checked out the demo models at each store. They both had the weird purple tint as well, on those few shades of gray, like you pointed out. I also watched the Engadget video review and could see the purples on their phone too. I think all the NS's are like this, just the way the screen is. Perhaps in a software update, they could tweak the colors a bit and fix it.
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its not a software problem.
its hardware issue. when my phone with pinkish tint along with my brother one didnt have one, i thought it could be a software issue, and we even both implimented the voodoo fix : galaxy S : and still looked different.
its a hardware issue. and i really think you need to change your phone. because if you are like me, who cares alot about his phone, then once you see someone with a nexus S and you compare the whites and the gray colors on both phones. you will be one sad panda.
hell put the brightness up to the max even. you will still see the difference in white level between a pinkish/yellow tint screen and cool blue one. its not even funny :/

Yes I'm definitely OCD'd on this issue lol. I'm still not total convinced that this a defect yet. Ill be going to a few BB's today to do some comparisons. If I do find one without the tint, then cot dammit, shame on Samsung for allowing this to slip thru on these screens again! Ill report my findings later.

My NS suffers from this horribly on top of the bad touchscreen issues it also has. Def. a defective unit

Weird screen issue, confirmed on two so far.

I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
My friend's S2 does the same.
can anyone confirm?

asefsef said:
I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
can anyone confirm?
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That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.

asefsef said:
Weird screen issue, confirmed on two so far.
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You exchanged your first phone because of this silly thing?

AXIS of Reality said:
That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.
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Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.

It's an option in the Display settings - auto adjust screen brightness after analysing image or something similar.
Samsung thing, I think, since my Omnia 7 with Windows Phone did exactly the same thing. It's trying to save you power and completely normal.

Funkym0nkey said:
Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.
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Thanks very much guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that. With that option off it really helped! (I feel a lil retarded now). But for some reason that test image I made still has that dimming effect (double tap it in the gallery, this instant change makes it obvious), but maybe that's normal, not fussed. (normal web browsing is perfect)
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wondering how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.

asefsef said:
Yea, I've already got that turned off including power saving mode (mentioned in first post).
Thanks very much tho guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that.
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wonder how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.
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Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.

As mentioned, its a power saving feature as AMOLED screens don't like whites as they drain power, they prefer blacks. So reducing the brightness helps to save battery.

Funkym0nkey said:
Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.
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I can see it grey in the video, almost like that gingerbread scroll limit effect. very hard to see in the video though, would have just said it was the camera.
Yea I'm considering returning. In my other post, I mentioned how Handtec got back to me. In short, not fault since only 1 pixel, but told me I can exchange/return within 7 days. But, they said since it's not a fault, I'll have to pay shipping both ways. (£28 per way, ouch)
Does that sound right??

Just a thought, could not the grey area when moving a black/white border area simply be the screen pixels taking a few milliseconds to go from completely dim, to grey, then to completely white, ie just a response time, albeit a bit slower than what I would have guessed?
On my SGS, going into a completely black app drawer with bright icons and moving around, it also has a very slight dragging effect on some white/black constrasting areas?

Screen feedbacks/issues

For the current owners, especially for those who are 'extremely' particular about the screen, do you guys any screen related issues?
I've been with the Galaxy S1 and S8500, both devices used the first generation SAMOLED screen and I never had any screen related issues on both devices but as of late there's been a lot of screen issues ( mostly quality control related ) on the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus..
To name a few:
- faint but visible horizontal/vertical lines visible on white/grey images
- green/blue color tint when the device is tilted with in just a few degree's
- uneven screen brightness
- suction cup rings
- blotchy/spotty blacks, you can see darker or brighter spots when the screen is displaying an entire black image - All Tab7.7's have spotty blacks, if anyone has a screen w/o spotty blacks please post it up here, it would help a lot of people.
I owned a Galaxy S2, replaced for a total of 7 times all had different screen related issues and I decided to get a refund for and got the G-Note when It came out, already had 1 screen replacement which resolved the lines issue but other screen related issues took its place, still waiting for the 3rd screen replacement to arrive and also processing a refund if they are not able to fix it.
I plan to make the Tab7.7 as my primary media device ( please spare me the 'get a plasma tv defense' ) and a web browsing device so screen quality is very important to me and most of the time it will be used at 0-10% screen brightness in a dark room (bed room).
Using the Tab in a totally dark room is nothing considered as 'extreme conditions' just because not everyone has the same usage pattern does not translate to 'extreme conditions only' situation.
Id like to ask a very honest and objective feedback from the current owners, I also understand that as of now only a few have this device. Testing in a dark room or with minimal ambient light is preferred as reflections can really skew results.
For anyone also wanting to contribute check the following images on your Tab 7.7 and put it in full screen and see if there are any uneven shades,lines or anything to report about.
This thread will get more exposure as the Tab 7.7 is slowly rolled out around the world. I would like to restate that this is purely an objective thread and not the subjective 'i dont see it in normal use' because not everyone has the same normal usage. Its not to say that all of the Tab7.7 screens are defective but Id like to see how wide spread the issue is based on XDA-Developer members. Again people, objective and not subjective.
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For now it seems that I've gotten enough feedback and expect the very same issues from the Galaxy S2, Need a huge amount of luck for the purchase on my end.
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We need someone who claims that their black screen output is very uniform and does not have any spots, so far nobody has posted yet but we do see claims but these claims are not enough, for the sake of research anyone with an screen with no blotches or spots on black post up.
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After checking out and screening a total of 15 units from different stores and different dates, I've managed to see only 2 units with 'acceptable' screens. I say acceptable because I am expecting the grey rendering to be as good as on the Galaxy S and S8500. I will be getting one tomorrow but it still has a visible darker top part and lighter bottom when rendering greys.
The very common issue I've seen is a visible thick vertical/horizontal lines on the screen when rendering greys and either a yellowish or greenish discoloration at the bottom and some reddish bleeding on the edges ( mostly top ) I dont think a screen that can render greys on the Tab7.7 exists for now but Im sure it will be possible 6-8 months down the road when screen production gets better.
Different shades of greys are my objective way of testing the screen quality as it easily cuts down the time needed to do so, if a certain screen passes my objective test I goto the subjective test, Load up Thumbkeyboard and use the split lay out with the ICS theme and observe if the shades on the letters from Q to P are the same, some screens that fail the objective test actually produce good results on the subjective test, while others really give out a very obvious discoloration, also all of my tests are done with 0% brightness since thats the brightness i will be using 90% of the time, as the brightness ramps up these discolorations become less obvious.
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Anyone wanting to set here my suite of grey test images
http://www.mediafire.com/?hfxjz8nhymc4h4d
Crucial images are the grey-15 and grey-25, test in a room w/o any directly light or reflections from your face. 0-33% brightness.
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Why grey images, why all this specific settings that require planetary alignment and a virgin sacrifice, read on:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23529783&postcount=27
EarlZ said:
I've had mine for almost a month, no burn-in issues, Ive been using the Tab almost in portrait mode and stopped using Honeybar just to see how fast the burn-in kicks in, nothing what so ever.
I cant judge if its visible in normal use or not, unlike others I dont assume how a screen issue looks like unless I've seen it or at least pictures of the issue, this has always been the source of many arguments in forums, people just assume all screens are created equally and just because they dont see the exact same issue on their end they actually become more aggressive and hateful and they tend to find the need to keep defending the product. What gives?
Companies always add a cost buffer to cover for returns and that is usually with upto 3 returns, but complacent people just accepting obivous defects are also the cause for this level of quality control since Samsung can now get away with it, especially that some people are false advocating that there are issues thats normal to AMOLED which is incorrect.
I havent used my Tab yet as an ebook reader so Im not exactly sure what they are experiencing but the pictures posted paint a clear picture, It can be annoying at times I suppose and when a product is marketed for its great screen and deep black levels, should anything less be expected? I mean personally coming from a Galaxy S which had none of the screen issues you've mentioned, the Tab7.7's screen should be expected to be better in every single aspect, right?
I've been quite active in this forum and I haven't seen anyone report multiple exchanges yet, I didnt even exchange my Tab yet.
I dont know who you are specifically referring to but I also use greys as my test images, let me give you a little more perspective incase you made a 'selective reading' in regards to this issue.
Grey colors easily allow you to check if your getting a quality screen or not, they can easily show those lines and discolorations with out the need for using multiple test images, they give you objective results especially when your buying the device but its not very conclusive since the store light will show a lot of reflection on the screen.
Testing at 0% brightness in low light environment is also ideal for an objective testing to avoid any reflections that you might see hiding these flaws, but if one exclusively uses the device in a very bright environment then this step can be skipped.
And this is the real world perspective:
This is the original grey image:
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and it should look close to that on the tablet.. For comparison, on my Galaxy S and my former Galaxy S2 can render this color perfectly.
not something like this:
one side is darker, visible lines, dots, circle marks.
You can argue that it only affects greys but it does affect a lot of things you see on the screen and to a certain extent like this:
and when we flip the tab over we get this:
Ignore the moire, notice that one side is darker than the other.
This is how the original frame looks like:
Sure not everyone uses the Tab7.7 as a media player, remember those visible rings and spots above? Check out the attached images.
This is because reviewers hype up the black levels saying its totally black and some internet articles say that AMOLED is in an 'off' state when displaying blacks which gives us the false information and relatively ruining expectations, my first samoled device was the S8500 (Wave) and the blacks were great, no blobs or spots and it had a very faint glow, that was the foundation of my expectation which was further reinforced by the Galaxy S that gave the same results. Others may have started with the Galaxy S2 and the expectations set by reviewers so they ended up returning their devices. On my end I returned it for the yellow tint, which the technician also confirmed that it was very visible and during that time there was nothing they can do.
Sorry for the wall of text but I felt that I should be explain this thoroughly as I am very affected by the screen issues and I am very vocal about it and it did get things done on my end.
TL;DR
Bottom line is, its a $700 device with its primary feature as the screen which is advertized,marketed and specified to have the most vivid, crisp, sharp and clear images. Others are reporting that they dont have any screen issues-what-so ever so why should someone else for settle anything less?
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the 77 has same screen as the note... but it's brightness more even across the screen.. the only problem you will have is it's size... since you're coming from Note.. you might find it hard to justified it's size... like bringing it with u anywhere.? when jogging?
I am now using my old trusty ipad2 ... which I can type like a breeze...
like I said 77 has better amoled screen that early Notes...

sectorlord said:
the 77 has same screen as the note...
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Erm, wrong...
The Note is a PenTile display. The 7.7 is not.
The Note's PenTile arrangement uses 8 subpixels per 1 pixel.
The 7.7's SAMOLED Plus display uses 12 subpixels per 1 pixel.

I won't be brining it around for joggin of that sort, its gonna be my primary media device so it needs defect free from those random manufacturing faults.
It might be too early to ask this as probably the user count in xda is pretty small.

I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.

EarlZ said:
For the current owners, especially for those who are 'extremely' particular about the screen, do you guys any screen related issues?
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This device probably isn't for you, yet.
I just got the 7.7 and have issues. The brightness is a bit brighter along one side, and I have the dark spot issue, this time in the form of dark circles, equally spaced (probably from the glass handling suction cups or something)
On the bright side, at least I don't have any bad pixels ;/
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.

I used my galaxy tab 7.7 for almost a month and i must say , the dark circles are truly annoying especially when you watch movies with dark scenes in a dark room with low brightness.You can hide the dark circles by increasing the brightness but it is a simple waste of battery life and its really bright in dark room. I also noticed screen burn in for the wifi and battery icon, i used my 7.7 on zero brightness since day 1 and screen burn-in still persist after 3 weeks. Good way to see the dark circles is by simply turning off the tablet, the tablet will "glow" with the dark circles after the samsung logo is gone.

[email protected] said:
I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.
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My old and new one have these rings. I'm guessing its glue or something bonding the screen to a backplate. Or an imprint of a backplate on the screen.
In any case I think this is not a problem or defect. You really must be in total darkness and viewing a black screen to see it. And even then its very hard to see.

[email protected] said:
I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.
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DaveC1964 said:
This device probably isn't for you, yet.
I just got the 7.7 and have issues. The brightness is a bit brighter along one side, and I have the dark spot issue, this time in the form of dark circles, equally spaced (probably from the glass handling suction cups or something)
On the bright side, at least I don't have any bad pixels ;/
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.
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randomgent said:
I used my galaxy tab 7.7 for almost a month and i must say , the dark circles are truly annoying especially when you watch movies with dark scenes in a dark room with low brightness.You can hide the dark circles by increasing the brightness but it is a simple waste of battery life and its really bright in dark room. I also noticed screen burn in for the wifi and battery icon, i used my 7.7 on zero brightness since day 1 and screen burn-in still persist after 3 weeks. Good way to see the dark circles is by simply turning off the tablet, the tablet will "glow" with the dark circles after the samsung logo is gone.
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Thanks for the heads up, It would seem that the darker spots are quite obvious since the screen is bigger, I also had those spots on some of my Galaxy S2 replacements and I found it very unacceptable and the same with my Note.
When I was testing at the store which had the usual store lighting one unit had several visible lines in greys while the other one only had 3 lines just in the middle.
For the uneven brightness on the screen, Im pretty sensitive to that.. when I saw the HC task bar in landscape mode I immediately noticed a difference in brightness but only 1 of the 2 exhibited the issue.
The screen burn-in is a concern as Im getting the same feedback from friends who bought the unit just last week!
I understand that not all screens have this issue but the chances of getting an out of spec screen might be pretty high, wish they brought back the same quality control when the Galaxy S initially came out, which had none of these issues what so ever.
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.
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Do you mean advanced task killer?
reiconol said:
My old and new one have these rings. I'm guessing its glue or something bonding the screen to a backplate. Or an imprint of a backplate on the screen.
In any case I think this is not a problem or defect. You really must be in total darkness and viewing a black screen to see it. And even then its very hard to see.
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It is a defect and a very bad one, also the visibility on this is not the same on all units. I have a suction up ring on my Galaxy Note which is visible at the 'service center lighting conditions' which the tech also saw the rings. Several pictures of this issue also posted on the various Galaxy S2 forums here in XDA under a well lit condition.
DaveC1964 said:
This device probably isn't for you, yet.
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Seems like it until screen yields improve or I get a chance to get one w/o any of these out of spec issues.

No screen is perfect, not even the ipad screen.
Ihave a galaxy s2 and rememeber hearing all the burn in worries last year. Almost a year later now and i dont have any burn in.
The only issue ive noticed is that some pixels on oled can have a slightly differrent brightness than others due to the nature of oled. Yes my s2 has a tiny amount of pixels like that,
But you have to look at it at the wrong angle with the wrong amount of ambient light with the wrong colour on the screen to notice it.
Yes a larger screen is likely to have more issues but if it was an ips screen then we would no doubt all complain about backlight bleed.
My advice is stop looking for problems with it and enjoy your tablet otherwise you will never be happy with it !
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No screen is perfect, not even the ipad screen.
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True no screen is perfect, what I am looking for is a quality screen that is with in specification and Im more than certain there are batches of screens that will meet these requirements.
crunchie-uk said:
Ihave a galaxy s2 and rememeber hearing all the burn in worries last year. Almost a year later now and i dont have any burn in.
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Like what you said, no perfect screen but there are some screens that are made better, A year of usage with no burn-in is fantastic! Some are getting it as early 30days from purchase.
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The only issue ive noticed is that some pixels on oled can have a slightly differrent brightness than others due to the nature of oled. Yes my s2 has a tiny amount of pixels like that,
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Yes to certain degree there are but they should not be noticeable to the naked eye, if its noticeable then its purely a quality control issue.
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But you have to look at it at the wrong angle with the wrong amount of ambient light with the wrong colour on the screen to notice it.
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Well that depends on the usage, Im not pushing my own usage to anyone as I believe not everyone watches movies or browses the web on the tab7.7 with close to 0% brightness and in total darkness. My usage revolves on that so there are no special conditions on my end. I hope this is understandable.
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Yes a larger screen is likely to have more issues but it was an ips screen then we woukd no doubt all complsin abiut backlight bleed.
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Yes backlight bleeding, but thank god both of the ipad2's here dont have any hint of backlight bleeding.
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My advice is stop looking for problems with it and enjoy your tablet otherwise you will never be happy with it !
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I do not look for these issues intentionally and I see them with my normal usage, thats why I intend to research first before taking the plunge. But I understand I might have a higher standards that others but thats just me, I want to get the most of my purchase or not purchase at all.
Long story short, all the screen issues I've found on my Galaxy S2 was due to normal usage including the yellow tinting and darker spots which annoyed the heck out of me considering the cost of the device. On the Galaxy Note I've read about the all the screen related issues even on the video issue and still said to my self 'these things should not be noticeable in normal usage' but i was wrong. So this time Im taking it slowly but I already know what to expect. But I do understand what you are trying to say.
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I dont want anyone to mistake this as a witch hunt, I just want to know what to expect, acceptance is easier when expectations are set.

Yes, there will never be 100% perfect screens. We'd all be constantly returning devices and not actually using them because of some "defect".
I've had my S2 since it first came out in May 2011. No problems with burn-in or colour shifts. I don't expect my 7.7 to have problems either. I'm not concerned that some "defect" will manifest itself under some extreme "only if I go looking " condition.
I'm enjoying using my S2, 7.7, and Transformer for what they are - mobile devices that provide communications, entertainment, and information.

Agreed I can also accept defects as long as I dont see them with my usage. Example between my SGS2 vs Galaxy Note which shared a common issue on the darker spots but it was more obvious on the SGS2 since it was a horrible pattern while on the Galaxy Note its tiny and multiple spots.
Every defect is different and we should not all assume that they are all acceptable to everyone.

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I'm not concerned that some "defect" will manifest itself under some extreme "only if I go looking " condition.QUOTE]
May be for you it's an extreme situation, but in my case, I bought this tablet for reading ebooks at bed (among other things) and I use white text over black background, so I am in that "extreme situation" on a daily basis.
I also have a Galaxy Nexus and that screen also have one line and some dots, but since my usage pattern is not the same it don't bothers because I really dont see it. But in the case of the tablet, I had to convince myself that I had paid a big amount of money to receive a screen with what for me is a defect.
I was the owner of a Huawei Ideos S7-105 (I now miss it) and appart from the battery and several other small annoyances I was pretty happy with it, I paid 150€ for it so I got what I paid for, but the 7.7 costs 450€ so my level of exigence is higher.
Sad thing abot all of this is that the other tablet that could be an option (Xoom 2 8.2) seems to bee plently of issues as well.
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[email protected] said:
May be for you it's an extreme situation, but in my case, I bought this tablet for reading ebooks at bed (among other things) and I use white text over black background, so I am in that "extreme situation" on a daily basis.
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This is always the case, people who dont have the same usage pattern nor with the same issue will never understand. But its been my understanding that this is already 'common' (but not normal) among amongst the hd samoled and samoled plus.
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Sad thing abot all of this is that the other tablet that could be an option (Xoom 2 8.2) seems to bee plently of issues as well.
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Yes the other alternatives that I've been looking are also riddled with issues, come to think of it only samsung has the least issues based on my research.

I've seen the concerns on other AMOLED devices Earlz mentions as well.
It's not a deal beaker but you may want to keep a LCD device around for reading at night.
No use exchanging numerous times hoping for a perfect screen.
Right now while AMOLED is a very dramatic screen tech
but it's not at its best with low brightness levels,
and certain test patterns / images reveal other side effects .
For reading in the dark a screen like the iPad 2's IPS LCD is probably a better choice.
It offers a very low brightness level with consistent results.
I think the key is to use AMOLED devices where they perform best,
at higher brightness levels during the day.
In that scenario if you hand a iPad 2 and AMOLED device
to the average person they will be floored with the AMOLED screen.

I don't have any issue on low brightness level.
I always operate my 7.7 at ~0-20% brightness.

Did anyone test the screen using the screen test apps? I tested mine and I have yellowish patch at the bottom part of the screen. It's only visible in dim grey. Luckily there is no dead pixel but my screen start to squeak a little when press at the bottom corner. The quality control is really bad. I'm waiting for a engineering revision before going for warranty claim. I must say I'm disappointed.
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earthman5678 said:
Did anyone test the screen using the screen test apps? I tested mine and I have yellowish patch at the bottom part of the screen. It's only visible in dim grey. Luckily there is no dead pixel but my screen start to squeak a little when press at the bottom corner. The quality control is really bad. I'm waiting for a engineering revision before going for warranty claim. I must say I'm disappointed.
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There's been a few reports from here and another forum that the screen seems to squeak or dislodge a bit on the bottom corner.

@SonicTab:
I went for an amoled screen beause it's suposed that when screen is black pixels are off and there should be no light emiting so in my case, when reading in the dark I should only see the text, and not a bluish black background as every other LCD based screen
@GOF007:
You are either lucky or do not use the tablet in the same conditions as I do. Did you test it viewing one of the pictures in the first post in a dark room?
I really hope my case where just bad luck and be given another tablet whitout those screen issues, or at least with something less annoying.

GT 7.7 AMOLED producing similar issues as the SGS2 and SGN

Here we go again, looks like Samsung hasn't really fixed any of the 'issues' with the AMOLED display.
I can clearly see the bottom half of my 7.7 has a heavy yellow tint compared to the top half which is whiteish.
Anyone else noticing the same?

Crazy CS said:
I can clearly see the bottom half of my 7.7 has a heavy yellow tint compared to the top half which is whiteish.
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Do you can attach a photo?

Crazy CS said:
Here we go again, looks like Samsung hasn't really fixed any of the 'issues' with the AMOLED display.
I can clearly see the bottom half of my 7.7 has a heavy yellow tint compared to the top half which is whiteish.
Anyone else noticing the same?
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My screen has no issues whatsoever, so far as I can tell. I just checked on a grey background to see if I could detect the yellow tint, and nope, it was clean and uniformly grey for me.

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Mine is okay too. No issues.

Crazy CS said:
Here we go again, looks like Samsung hasn't really fixed any of the 'issues' with the AMOLED display.
I can clearly see the bottom half of my 7.7 has a heavy yellow tint compared to the top half which is whiteish.
Anyone else noticing the same?
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This being my first amoled display - I was blissfully unaware of "limitations" of this new technology. So I had mine on full brightness ( 70 -90%) for the first week I would say
Then I read some other posts like ths - then realised this was not a good thing to be doing. Its like plasma technology (although much better than lcd/led in terms of picture quality) it still suffers with the "image burn in" with static content. It took about 9 generations of plasmas to "cope" with this issue.
SO i would not recommend high brightness for the first week to two weeks to allow the screen to "bed-in" but I am not sure of how oleds function or they even need this.
I do have a very faint yellow hue that matches exactly with the system bar at the bottom. But off course the system bar is static and hides this all together. The problem is when you change oreintations - mine is 99% in landscape so not noticeable for my use.
However in portrait, this again is only really visible on a minimum brightness setting and against dull grey background. If I put up the brightness up to 25% it is really difficult to make out & any brighter I cant see it.
If it bothers you enough then to minimise static content:
1) Screen timeout from 1 - 15 minutes
2) I also now use "hidebar.apk" to hide the system bar. Can be a bit buggy but works on the whole and is free. Use it mainly when browsing for a long periods of time.
3) in the default browser you can change to full screen mode, in settings go to Labs -> select quick controls. This gets rid of the bar at the top.
Finally, full screen web browsing !! Also the quick controls are slick, once you get the hang of it. Just press on the extreme edges of the screen to bring it up.
Or just get a replacement. In your case it sounds bad enough.
For me I cant notice any issue 99% of the time. Even If I knew about the issue beforehand, I think the screen is just way better than anything out there for at least a year or two. You cant fault the rest of the tab - its pretty mint

just so people are aware, this screens "issues" are only for the neat pickers, they are not visible under normal usage condition when the screen is set to auto or manual
the only way to see those is when you set the brightness all the way to Zero
as long as you keep brightness at 20% or more you wont see any of that

Is this the same issue with the Galaxy S1?
On the bottom half I have an area that is yellowish on white pages. And when you look at a black image in a dark room the black on that area is more dark.
When you turn the display off and look against the sun or similar bright light source at a shallow angle you can see that the golden mesh is not flat in this area. it is bumpy

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
My screen has no issues whatsoever, so far as I can tell. I just checked on a grey background to see if I could detect the yellow tint, and nope, it was clean and uniformly grey for me.
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mohlin said:
Mine is okay too. No issues.
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Crazy CS said:
Here we go again, looks like Samsung hasn't really fixed any of the 'issues' with the AMOLED display.
I can clearly see the bottom half of my 7.7 has a heavy yellow tint compared to the top half which is whiteish.
Anyone else noticing the same?
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Pictures would be nice so we can take a peak, Im not sure how well it would translate but it should visible enough.
AllGamer said:
just so people are aware, this screens "issues" are only for the neat pickers, they are not visible under normal usage condition when the screen is set to auto or manual
the only way to see those is when you set the brightness all the way to Zero
as long as you keep brightness at 20% or more you wont see any of that
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For me there is a huge difference between not having any of those screen issues and saying 'its only visible when X is done'. I prefer to have a flawless screen If I decide to purchase, the money back guarantee / refunds are there for a reason.
I use autobrightness as well and it does drop to 0% when Im using my device in the bed room with the lights off. of course I dont have a Tab 7.7 yet but this is how its been since my Galaxy S days and I've never had to do certain things to prevent flaws from surfacing, it was just flawless to begin with aside from the Pentile limitations on the text.
Then again your opinion, my opinion. I hope to see a flawless screen on the Tab 7.7 though but Im not expecting much.
But we shall see once its locally available.

EarlZ said:
Then again your opinion, my opinion. I hope to see a flawless screen on the Tab 7.7 though but Im not expecting much.
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Dude, the 7.0+ is probably better option for you. Save some money and headache because the technology is samoled+ not ++ or whatever the next generation is going to be called in 12 months.
I would say "normal" usage patterns and many will have flawless screens. Blast it at 100% brightness with a static image for a week - you will not be a happy bunny

ezynow said:
Dude, the 7.0+ is probably better option for you. Save some money and headache because the technology is samoled+ not ++ or whatever the next generation is going to be called in 12 months.
I would say "normal" usage patterns and many will have flawless screens. Blast it at 100% brightness with a static image for a week - you will not be a happy bunny
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Many will have flawless screens but you advise against it
I'll just have to wait for one that is flawless and purchase it, putting the stock keyboard in landscape mode easily shows this issue. For what its worth this yellow tint no matter how slight will show up in HD movies
Even with my phones Im more of an indoors user so my brightness stays either auto or probably fixed at 20% and I usally drop to 0% when web browsing in bed.
But I'll have to see it in person.. or its another refund process.
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Believe it or not some review reviews on the Galaxy S2 and Galaxy Note in HD format actually shows a noticeable hint of yellow tinting.. I've seen 2 HD reviews/previews so far and it looks good. Hopefully it translates well in real life.

i wemt to this site http://www.checkpixels.com/test.html/ fullscreen landscape actually i didnt notice it i had brightness set to zero.

murymury said:
i wemt to this site http://www.checkpixels.com/test.html/ fullscreen landscape actually i didnt notice it i had brightness set to zero.
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Broken link?

If you click here http://www.checkpixels.com just click on "Check pixels on my LCD!"
Then you get here http://www.checkpixels.com/test.html/

Polarfuchs said:
If you click here http://www.checkpixels.com just click on "Check pixels on my LCD!"
Then you get here http://www.checkpixels.com/test.html/
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Nope, Chuck Testa...
DNS isn't resolving that URL. Tried several different DNS servers too. No luck. What's the site's IP?

its working fine here

EarlZ said:
Many will have flawless screens but you advise against it
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dont get me wrong. all i am saying that for me i have to go through the following to see something.
1) reduce brightness to 0%.
2) use third party app to dim screen below normal brightness threshold.
3) use third party app to remove system bar
4) change background to a dull grey
so it all depends on ur definition of flawless.
as i say under normal circumstances it is a non issue.

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nope, chuck testa...
Dns isn't resolving that url. Tried several different dns servers too. No luck. What's the site's ip?
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98.131.55.167

Thanks, that works!

ezynow said:
dont get me wrong. all i am saying that for me i have to go through the following to see something.
1) reduce brightness to 0%.
2) use third party app to dim screen below normal brightness threshold.
3) use third party app to remove system bar
4) change background to a dull grey
so it all depends on ur definition of flawless.
as i say under normal circumstances it is a non issue.
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For me its just a 3 step process
1.) set the brightness to 0%
2.) pop out the stock keyboard which is already grey
3.) check for color uniformity
Heres an example on my Galaxy Note: I've cropped the pictures and its a little misaligned be the judge if Im nitpicking or not.
My 'normal' conditions involve using the tab at 0% brightness in about 85% of the time. But I'll have to see it in person to judge but going with that you said then maybe the RGB stripe handles discolorations a bit better.

What am I supposed to see?
I can see that the left part looks "normal" and the right half has yellowish gray colors.

Fix uneven/yellow screen with intentional burn-in

So I was on my 2nd Nexus 6P and like the first it had an uneven screen. Normal/slightly pink at the top and at the bottom it's more yellow. Instead of returning it I've decided to try and fix the yellow tint by intentionally causing a burn-in on the over-enthusiastic green pixels in the bottom half of my screen.
To do this I flashed a kernel which unlocks the high-brightness mode of the display, the awesome EX kernel, set my screen timeout to 15 minutes and left the display turned on for 3x15 minutes in high brightness mode with a black-to-green gradient open full screen in the Photos app (absolutely nothing else on screen). After each of the 15 minutes I checked the progress, after the 3rd time I considered it done. I'm happy to report that this has nearly eliminated my uneven screen problem.
So far I've seen no ill effects, just a nice even screen.
I used this black-to-green gradient that was a close match to where my screen was yellow. My first 6P had a different pattern of yellowness, so that would have required a different gradient, more like black-green-black.

Interesting, the normal slightly pink at the top transitioning to yellow at the bottom describes the screen on my original nexus 6P and it's replacement.
I'll look into giving this a try as well.

I´m not sure if something like this could be considered as a defect. If you look at a very high angle, you might see some sort of "rainbow effect" on the screen. You should be careful about "burning in" Pixels in a Amoled screen. High brightness will wear out the LEDs faster than you think. At least this is how I remember my old Samsung Galaxy S3 but maybe Amoled technology has improved a lot.

Gorgtech said:
I´m not sure if something like this could be considered as a defect. If you look at a very high angle, you might see some sort of "rainbow effect" on the screen. You should be careful about "burning in" Pixels in a Amoled screen. High brightness will wear out the LEDs faster than you think. At least this is how I remember my old Samsung Galaxy S3 but maybe Amoled technology has improved a lot.
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I can't really comment on if the OP's method is safe or not, but it is worth noting that the gradient/tint change is noticeable even when viewed straight on under normal use, such as browsing etc.
It could sort of be likened to the old TN based flat screens from a number of years ago where the top and bottom looked slightly different colours, however a lot of this was down to narrow viewing angles. I'm wondering if the same applies to the specific AMOLED display used by the 6P as well.
The AMOLED screens on my Moto X 2nd Gen and Moto X Force don't have the same problem.

I have a slight purple tint too on the screen but it is only visible on a white background. It does not bother me, if you set a higher brightness it is barely visible. Maybe all Nexus 6P have this sort of display and you simply have to live with it.
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I can't really comment on if the OP's method is safe or not, but it is worth noting that the gradient/tint change is noticeable even when viewed straight on under normal use, such as browsing etc.
It could sort of be likened to the old TN based flat screens from a number of years ago where the top and bottom looked slightly different colours, however a lot of this was down to narrow viewing angles. I'm wondering if the same applies to the specific AMOLED display used by the 6P as well.
The AMOLED screens on my Moto X 2nd Gen and Moto X Force don't have the same problem.
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Would you happen to have a before image for your screen? I would like to try this on my phone but can't say for sure what exact color the uneven section is. Most of the screen seems to have a pink tint that fades into a green/yellow tint in the bottom left corner. I don't want to stress the wrong color accidentally.

Can you post before and after pics of your screen please?

Gorgtech said:
I have a slight purple tint too on the screen but it is only visible on a white background. It does not bother me, if you set a higher brightness it is barely visible. Maybe all Nexus 6P have this sort of display and you simply have to live with it.
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Its a well known characteristic of samsung AMOLED screens. Samsung users have been complaining about this for some time. Its actually worse on the sgs6. But more brightness will make it less noticeable. Honestly, if you forget about it and stop focusing on it, you will stop noticing it.

Yeah I understand some are really bad you should send it back.but if its slight. There's no.point obsessing about it. It takes the joy away from using the phone

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Yeah I understand some are really bad you should send it back.but if its slight. There's no.point obsessing about it. It takes the joy away from using the phone
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It's impossible not obsessing about it since the display is very thing you look at when using a phone, people wouldnt tolerate if it was an LCD, dead pixels or any other defect at the advertised price, but since it's amoled we should be expected that these errors occur.
The issue on slight displays is that the screen is uneven on white, so its impossible to ignore on web browsing and how dark ui and gapps is not provided by Google, I would prefer it to be slightly pink/blue all over not half so you won't notice it.
Not meaning to rant and whine but consumers shouldn't have to accept this or fix the issue themselves, when I show the phone of friends, they notice the inconsistent white background and are shocked when I say its something you have to live with, the features are not going to outweigh the display issue
The joy of the phone is still there, just wish they implement quality control.

I complained about this on my Nexus 6. Ended up buying and returning a total of about 8 phones from various stores until i found the "perfect" one. Its incredibly irritating when you can notice it and its the first thing you see when the pixels light up. Some people may care more than others but im not willing to compromise anymore. AMOLED displays look great, but LCDs seem to have a better yield or QA. I was of course down voted and flamed about this. Good to see people starting to take action against garbage quality AMOLEDs.

ariekanarienl said:
So I was on my 2nd Nexus 6P and like the first it had an uneven screen. Normal/slightly pink at the top and at the bottom it's more yellow. Instead of returning it I've decided to try and fix the yellow tint by intentionally causing a burn-in on the over-enthusiastic green pixels in the bottom half of my screen.
To do this I flashed a kernel which unlocks the high-brightness mode of the display, the awesome EX kernel, set my screen timeout to 15 minutes and left the display turned on for 3x15 minutes in high brightness mode with a black-to-green gradient open full screen in the Photos app (absolutely nothing else on screen). After each of the 15 minutes I checked the progress, after the 3rd time I considered it done. I'm happy to report that this has nearly eliminated my uneven screen problem.
So far I've seen no ill effects, just a nice even screen.
I used this black-to-green gradient that was a close match to where my screen was yellow. My first 6P had a different pattern of yellowness, so that would have required a different gradient, more like black-green-black.
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This post is old but I wanted to try this nonetheless. You can't just burn in or wear out the pixels in such sort of time no matter what. 45 mis is not enough to cause such an effect. I tried it as I have a screen with the same exactly issue but there is no change. And I did it for far more than you. I let it all the night long for 3 days. There was no change. I don't think you can fix this issue this way (or any other way)

You guys keep saying "AMOLED issue". I bought 6p after having OnePlus X - it has AMOLED without any issue, it was perfect screen! Nexus 6p is great phone, but screen really bothers me... I hate, but I need to replace the phone. And I am not sure whether I will get a good phone or not. Support told me that if I would ask for replacement - they could send me a refurbished phone. Only buying new will give a new phone. I can still return it as I have it for few days...

mariojas89 said:
You guys keep saying "AMOLED issue". I bought 6p after having OnePlus X - it has AMOLED without any issue, it was perfect screen! Nexus 6p is great phone, but screen really bothers me... I hate, but I need to replace the phone. And I am not sure whether I will get a good phone or not. Support told me that if I would ask for replacement - they could send me a refurbished phone. Only buying new will give a new phone. I can still return it as I have it for few days...
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Hey,
Seriously, a refurbished device just after a few days? Like you had it for 10 months, lol? Is it Huawei?
Escalate the case to a supervisor and don't give up until you get a "proper" new phone!
Good luck...