[Q] HDMI Link - Acer Iconia A500

Would it be possible to link my phone to my honeycomb tablet for use as a keyboard, gamepad, or even a basic selection tool(i know there is no cursor support) when I have it plugged into my tv. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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My first day with my MOJO... and a few tips to get up to speed fast.

OK so out of the box this thing looks great, packaging included.
Setting it up was straight forward. HDMI to my 55" LG 240hz. Just had to dig out a spare cat5 and pop it in. Batteries in the CTRLR, dongle in the USB 2.0 port. Phone clip stashed for future use. Brought power to the MOJO and sparked it up, and just as I feared... uh.. wait.. actually it started up flawlessly, audio and video came over lovely with a beautiful smooth boot.
So far so good.
Next I used the CTRLR to perform the basic setup. TIP #1 (use mouse and keyboard for this). I didn't have an issue just took more time than it had too putting in a bunch of text via point and click. Even so, no problem to sync my google account and arrange the normal "phone" settings.
So far so good, and it doesn't even hiccup.
Apps and such, I need to navigate the new feeling of the mouse mode and android interface. TIP #2 (took a bit to understand how the left stick acts like the mouse and the A button acts like your finger pressing, so to swipe you press A then swipe stick! also when navigating screens use the right stick to scroll up and down as long as you have the curser over the section you want to scroll) I click on the MadCatz logo (claw marks), its the orientation app, follow it step by step. works like a dream, and thanks for adding that it gave me a great start. TIP #3 (follow all of the suggested actions in the slideshow). This will help you get basic apps that make the functionality of the MOJO start to feel like a workable system.
So far so good,
I want to test the sound and graphics, so I load up Dead Trigger 2 (you'll be able to DL it inside of the presentation) and man it looks sweet! I'm really impressed that this lil box can pump out those shaders and reflections at that resolution without straining.. I'm not a console FPS guy but have to say it looked great... TIP #4 (switch your CTRLR mode button from mouse mode to the right PC mode to be able to interact in Dead Trigger)
So far so good, but but but....
I want to get some apps, specifically apps that I bought the MOJO for as my media center (among other things). So you'll soon find you cannot DL most apps as the developers haven't added MOJO as a supported device, so you wont even have an option to try it out. This will not do as I am not going to wait for them to add support to get to enjoy this thing.
TIP #5 downloading and side loading apps till you can ROOT and modify the ro. to act like a supported device to fake out the app store (till they get off their ass and support this thing).
1. On your pc go to the android market and find the app you want, copy the address bar.
2. go to (im new to the forum so they wont let me show the url, but just look up APK-Downloader from evozi) paste the google play URL into the text box and click the "generate dl link" button.
3. It will save the app package as a .zip file, you will need to change the file extension from .zip to .apk and save it on a USB flash drive.
4. Pop the USB flash drive into the USB 3.0 port of your MOJO
5. Go to the security settings in the MOJO and uncheck the restriction on installing apps that are from unknown sources.
6. Open up ES File Manager app (if you followed TIP #3 this will be installed already) and find Local on the left, click that, then scroll down to USB, and click that.
7. Find the file you DL and saved as .apk and click it. It will install (everything I installed this way works perfectly, I can only speak from my experience but so far no duds, THOUGH I HAD A FAIL ON AN APP I DID NOT PURCHASE *still working on how to buy an app to gain access without being able to have that option to purchase on the market place, I think I will have to root and change my device description to a supported device but all of these steps are to avoid having to root for now*)
After this now I sit back and enjoy, I just wanted to help out anyone else that might be new to the MOJO.
So far so good, I have all the apps I bought the MOJO for and woohoo! Thanks for this MadCatz. I'm impressed. Now I just need to send some emails to the developers to update their apps.
-XexisKhan
oh and..
Almost forgot! NVIDIA TEGRAZONE has tons of compatible apps/games for this thing that look awesome, for those of you were are waiting for content to consider the MOJO... it's here!
-XexisKhan
@XexisKhan
Very helpful, thank you
gwaldo said:
@XexisKhan
Very helpful, thank you
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Hey my pleasure.
As I progress there are a few more things I have found.
I just purchased two keyboards to test out: (note: I would have tried out MADCATZ gamesmart stuff if they were available in store but it was an impulse decision)
I bought a HP Bluetooth keyboard K4000
Pros - only 29.99, no need for dongle with Bluetooth, super small, has power button so you can turn your MOJO off and on (never thought I would get excited about something like that but hey) and feels sturdy. Can also use the FN keys to turn off the MOJO and handle all the multimedia stuff, lovely.
Cons - Will need a mouse or separate touch pad, or will have to use the CTRLR in conjunction, not horrible but..
Also I picked up a Logitech Wireless All-In-One Keyboard tk820
Pros - It has a touch pad built in but not a ghetto one, it's real slick on the right side nice and big, stylish, heavy enough that when you have it on your lap and you use the touch pad it doesn't slide off. For most activities you wont need anything else since you can track with touch pad and type with keyboard. Can also use the FN keys to turn off the MOJO and handle all the multimedia stuff, lovely.
Cons - It is pricey at BestBuy 69.99. You will have to use up a USB slot for the dongle (Logitech unified devices). The touch pad doesn't work for the real interactive games, only the basic ones. Touch pad doesn't quit feel like you are working on the surface of a phone/screen.. would be cool.
Lastly I have plugged in several mice and all have worked well, but I tested my first straight BLUETOOTH mouse.
the Logitech Ultrathin Touch Mouse t630
Connected and functions as designed.. very slim blue tooth no dongle needed.
For ****s n gigs I plugged in my Razer Nostromo, it appears to function fine. hmm need further testing.
Turns out the CTRLR needs the dongle for MOJO but not other BLUETOOTH devices... interesting.
Gonna keep them all for a bit and test em out further. Do not see a compatibility issue with any input devices as of yet.
What's apps did u side load?
@XexisKhan thanks again
RE keyboards, did all keys map correctly?
My BT mini keyboard with mouse touch pad works for alph-numeric keys but I notice the android virtual keyboard keeps coming up and I can't use the backspace nor enter keys, strange becuase it works fine in windows and linux.
My FN keys don't turn off my mojo lol
gwaldo said:
@XexisKhan thanks again
RE keyboards, did all keys map correctly?
My BT mini keyboard with mouse touch pad works for alph-numeric keys but I notice the android virtual keyboard keeps coming up and I can't use the backspace nor enter keys, strange becuase it works fine in windows and linux.
My FN keys don't turn off my mojo lol
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The issue there (from what I experienced) is that the on-screen keyboard is set to default. Set your BT keyboard as the default and you won't have the other pop up. As soon as you disconnect the BT, the on-screen goes back to default.
ExtremeRyno said:
The issue there (from what I experienced) is that the on-screen keyboard is set to default. Set your BT keyboard as the default and you won't have the other pop up. As soon as you disconnect the BT, the on-screen goes back to default.
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Thanks for the reply, I turned everything off in langauges but it still shows, not sure where to se the default keyboard.. my tablet running 4.0.4 has the same settings and does it automatically.
The keyboard mapping works just by escaping out of the virtual keyboard, so that's good enough for me
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Thanks, I'll look into External Keyboard Helper Pro.
XexisKhan said:
Hey my pleasure.
As I progress there are a few more things I have found.
I just purchased two keyboards to test out: (note: I would have tried out MADCATZ gamesmart stuff if they were available in store but it was an impulse decision)
I bought a HP Bluetooth keyboard K4000
Pros - only 29.99, no need for dongle with Bluetooth, super small, has power button so you can turn your MOJO off and on (never thought I would get excited about something like that but hey) and feels sturdy. Can also use the FN keys to turn off the MOJO and handle all the multimedia stuff, lovely.
Cons - Will need a mouse or separate touch pad, or will have to use the CTRLR in conjunction, not horrible but..
Also I picked up a Logitech Wireless All-In-One Keyboard tk820
Pros - It has a touch pad built in but not a ghetto one, it's real slick on the right side nice and big, stylish, heavy enough that when you have it on your lap and you use the touch pad it doesn't slide off. For most activities you wont need anything else since you can track with touch pad and type with keyboard. Can also use the FN keys to turn off the MOJO and handle all the multimedia stuff, lovely.
Cons - It is pricey at BestBuy 69.99. You will have to use up a USB slot for the dongle (Logitech unified devices). The touch pad doesn't work for the real interactive games, only the basic ones. Touch pad doesn't quit feel like you are working on the surface of a phone/screen.. would be cool.
Lastly I have plugged in several mice and all have worked well, but I tested my first straight BLUETOOTH mouse.
the Logitech Ultrathin Touch Mouse t630
Connected and functions as designed.. very slim blue tooth no dongle needed.
For ****s n gigs I plugged in my Razer Nostromo, it appears to function fine. hmm need further testing.
Turns out the CTRLR needs the dongle for MOJO but not other BLUETOOTH devices... interesting.
Gonna keep them all for a bit and test em out further. Do not see a compatibility issue with any input devices as of yet.
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I am using a Logitech K270 - it seems that the mapping is not completely compatable with MOJO. I can only assume that MOJO is looking for an Android keyboard and/or driver... Am I right? Pls how is the Razor gamepad working? Does all the function keys work, can you reassign the keys ok ? ~Andy aka Two_Wolf~
PS anyone may anwser if you pls
ajelliottjr said:
I am using a Logitech K270 - it seems that the mapping is not completely compatable with MOJO. I can only assume that MOJO is looking for an Android keyboard and/or driver... Am I right? Pls how is the Razor gamepad working? Does all the function keys work, can you reassign the keys ok ? ~Andy aka Two_Wolf~
PS anyone may anwser if you pls
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Stock mojo works with BT2 (needing the USB dongle), CM12 newer BT Smart (no dongle required)
I have no idea what other gamepads use but if it's BT it will pair to mojo
I plan to buy Mojo these days, there is an offer in my country (Greece) for 89€
1. Anyone knows what's the latest official version of Mojo? I can't find anything on internet about that. Its still 4.2???
2. I will be able to run 1080p on Kodi without probs? I saw also an update that came out on June 2014 that promised 4k capabilities, is that also available?
3. Anyone knows if Football Manager 2016 Touch is supported for Mojo? It says that it run in Nvidia Shield, that i assume its the same thing, just to be sure.
I post here, as it seemed more related to start a new thread, if its not np i can start a new thread - ty in advance
Its still 4.2???
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Think so. Someone recently posted that they received word from the folks at Mad Catz stating they stopped working on the project. Never tried Kodi on it, but I know for a fact you can use 1080p.
Ended up selling my MOJO just a over month ago though. It had such a huge potential
AndroidSupaFan said:
Think so. Someone recently posted that they received word from the folks at Mad Catz stating they stopped working on the project. Never tried Kodi on it, but I know for a fact you can use 1080p.
Ended up selling my MOJO just a over month ago though. It had such a huge potential
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I have sent also a ticket to Mad Catz with the same question, i will respond back when i will have news. But in the meantime, i can't understand why people abandon this device. It plays 1080p movies and 4K (so Kodi is used at its best here), and also you take a awesome controller which can be used with games in the tv. Ok not anything spectacular (we have pc for that) but some nice games at least. Also you take a traveler clip where you can have your smartphone on the controller and the specs of mojo itself, if there is a capable rom creator, let you have new version of Android in the future easily.
Its very sad that i see that very few people are using the device and making roms. I bought it for 70 euro and i believe its better than most rk media players out there.
Hi does it run apps like 4od I player itvplayer demand five amazon video etc? Because some apps will be available to download but won't work with the controller. Can you plug a mouse and keyboard in to play the games that don't work on the controller?
iMarcs said:
Hi does it run apps like 4od I player itvplayer demand five amazon video etc? Because some apps will be available to download but won't work with the controller. Can you plug a mouse and keyboard in to play the games that don't work on the controller?
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Hey, you can plug a mouse but with the controller itself it has an integrated mouse "mode" that behave like a mouse so it's not so needed. If you please tell me exact what apps you are looking for, and i will test them later today to report back.
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For me, the main problem is that 4.2.2 doesn't have so much compatibility with the apps in playstore. (even if i manage to spoof the device). It would be nice to have at least Lollipop
iMarcs said:
Hi does it run apps like 4od I player itvplayer demand five amazon video etc? Because some apps will be available to download but won't work with the controller. Can you plug a mouse and keyboard in to play the games that don't work on the controller?
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Nah, it doesn't support Amazon video, primary reason why I sold it.
Well, rumors first spread Mad Catz was bringing new update and support Android TV.... As of now, nothing!
The controller is great, hardware is great, no doubt about it. But the lack of future official updates makes it another unused sitting console next to the TV. If something happens, I will probably buy it again (and I made a profit selling it though!).
lanc3lot said:
Hey, you can plug a mouse but with the controller itself it has an integrated mouse "mode" that behave like a mouse so it's not so needed. If you please tell me exact what apps you are looking for, and i will test them later today to report back.
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For me, the main problem is that 4.2.2 doesn't have so much compatibility with the apps in playstore. (even if i manage to spoof the device). It would be nice to have at least Lollipop
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Thabks for your help. I'm looking to get all the media streaming apps, 8ball multiplayer and call if duty zombies ect
Netflix works, as Cod Zombies

[Q] Better mouse support

Nexus Player is a sad/simple/boring device. Its remote is really silly and useless. Anyone who have used an Air mouse type remote (Lg Magic Remote or Samsun's one) knows how comfortable it is to have a pointer on the screen and move the hand to reach the cursor where you need. Google decided to use a simply remove which basically is a left/right/left/left/down/down/down until you reach your option.
I've bought a USB OTG cable and connected my mouse. While the cursor is moving on the screen and it works on some apps, in most it does work. So for instance, on a game I can't click on the buttons... Is there a way to make the mouse clicks on all apps ?
Also, some apps which are forced for portrait orientation, will be displayed lying as the tv is 1920x1080. Any way to force the orientation of apks ?
Thanks.
I've had this problem too. Apparently some developers code in touches and/or mouse clicks, and some only code in the touch command. That is why some games aren't working for you.
You've got two options, either complain to the development team to add mouse clicks (which I'm told should be an easy thing to do) or use the DroidMote app by Zulu.
Thank you @midnightzak for making it clear to me. It seems that even the games from the Google Play for android TV are not working as supposed. For instance I installed Minion Rush (which is officially supported) and after it installed on start, it ask me to enter my age but I can't enter it because when moving around with remove for the Age editbox and clicking ok button does nothing, no keyboard popup. Tried it with controller too, same thing.
Another short question. On Chromecast on my LG smart TV I had Simplink enabled. Not sure if because of this, but when I started to cast a video from my phone, the tv switches from cable input to chromecast input. This does not work for Nexus Player, I need to manually switch input to HDMI port of the player. Is this normal ?
I have a magic motion remote for my LG tv, which is basically an air mouse remote. LG firmware has an option to control other devices connected through HDMI with the remote and when I try to add a new device, I get all sorts of Box sets from different producers. I was wondering if there is a way to make the remote work on nexus player.
The nexus player doesn't officially support HDMI CEC which is the protocol required for the auto switching of inputs to work. It's also what would make your remote work unfortunately.
I have a LG "smart" TV as well and at first the Nexus Player did not appear to support the expected HDMI-CEC functionality (input switching and magic remote passthrough). On LG "smart" TVs, you have to re-enable HDMI-CEC for that port when you switch devices. This is also sometimes a very annoying setting to find if you haven't touched it in a while.
@opticron so you say that you LG TV does work with Nexus player and also you can use the magic remote for it ? Can you tell me some more details on how to enable the HDMI-CEC on the tv for the player HDMI port ?
My other concern: should the cable be of any special type to support CEC ?
Later edit: I have replaced the HDMI cable I had with an newer cheap one. The older one did not work with simplink enabled, while the new one does. I can use the lg remote to navigate around the nexus player. The cursor does not trigger any action (too bad) but up/down/left/right/ok/back works from the magic remote.

Android detects gamepad as mouse/keyboard

Hello!
A couple days ago I bought a Steelseries FREE Mobile Wireless Controller - it connects via bluetooth.
But when I first tried connecting to it, it was recognized as mouse, I guess - I could move cursor using left analog, one of the buttons was click, another was back, etc.
It was impossible to use it in any game. Fortunately, I have found an app called Bluez IME - it emulates pad buttons as keyboard buttons, and it works in some cases(like n64 emulator or gta3), but sometimes games just don't recognize it(eg. FPSE or Riptide GP2).
I think it's stock bluetooth service's fault, because on my phone it works fine(but obviously I didn't buy a gamepad to play on 3.5" screen ) but I can't be sure :/
Has anyone had this problem before on this tablet?
P.S. I'm running android 4.2.2 and I wrote a support ticket on Steelseries' website and I'm waiting for reply.
Also, please move if wrong section.
EDIT:
I have been thinking a bit - if Bluez IME can interpret input from my controller, maybe it would be possible to write an app that would take that input and emulate a gamepad. Do you think it could be done? Unfortunately, I have very little java experience :/
EDIT 2:
I just got an reply from Steelseries support:
"Hello,
Unfortunately, it will always detect is as a mouse. I am sorry but this is just the way that it was designed.
Best regards,[...]"
I guess, that the guy from support didn't exactly understand that my problem wasn't the mouse but the fact that I can't play any gamepad-enabled games - only with keyboard emulation ._.

Is there any keyboard to replace learnback keyboard of Shield?

The learnback keyboard doesn't support mouse input, I must to switch to controller even I'm using the mouse for web content. So do anybody know how to use 3rd party keyboard for shield.
Thanks
I'm sure you know that an ACTUAL keyboard works, right? Wired USB, wireless USB, etc.
I haven't tested this specifically on a Shield TV yet, but I have no doubts it would work well. Might solve your issues.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Multimedia-Remote-Keyboard-N5901/dp/B0036VO67I
I use a physical keyboard. However, I think you should be able to sideload something like swiftkey and it supports touch input. Anything that does touch input, works with mouse input.

Turn off right analog as mouse

I really like this device.. especially when combined with ps4 remote play...
I got no problem using DS4 controller wired to shield.. but it's wired...
the problem is everytime i play ps4 using shield/any other controller it turns the right analog into mouse.. so I it's really hard to press R3 button.. and hate the mouse cursor keeps moving...
Is it possible to turn off the right analog as mouse? Or any other trick so i can use my nvidia shield/360 controller to play ps4 remote play?
Thanks in advance
I have the modded remote play with the invisible touch buttons. I attach the DS4 pad to the SHIELD with an OTG adapter on the micro USB port. The pads works perfect and there are no visual cues on the screen (i.e Cursor)
The adapters are very cheap and you'll find other uses for it I am sure. Hope this helps
He's referring to the nvidia shield, which recently updated and added "right thumb stick as mouse" for non TV apps. So when you try to look around it shoes a mouse, and the thumb stick doesn't work as intended. I'm having the same issue and wondering if anyone has found a workaround or way to disable it too.
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He's referring to the nvidia shield, which recently updated and added "right thumb stick as mouse" for non TV apps. So when you try to look around it shoes a mouse, and the thumb stick doesn't work as intended. I'm having the same issue and wondering if anyone has found a workaround or way to disable it too.
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I'm not a mind reader lol This section is for the SHIELD TV which uses the Android TV OS (it's not the same as what the tablet or portable uses). Perhaps posting or looking in that section will get you guys an answer sooner...I wish you all the best with it.
honosuseri said:
I'm not a mind reader lol This section is for the SHIELD TV which uses the Android TV OS (it's not the same as what the tablet or portable uses). Perhaps posting or looking in that section will get you guys an answer sooner...I wish you all the best with it.
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Sorry I didn't see the last part that said "ie cursor" and saw the "otg adapter" and assumed you were talking about the shield portable devices. I too was referring to the Shield TV and just misrepresented it.
I used the XDA port with invisible touch buttons as well, but still get a cursor popup when trying to use the right thumbstick. If i'm not mistake, it's a feature added in the newest update to the Shield TV for non-tv apps to help navigate them better. I'm also unable to use the PS button or touchpad, but I just assumed it wasn't possible.
Jacobxtyler said:
Sorry I didn't see the last part that said "ie cursor" and saw the "otg adapter" and assumed you were talking about the shield portable devices. I too was referring to the Shield TV and just misrepresented it.
I used the XDA port with invisible touch buttons as well, but still get a cursor popup when trying to use the right thumbstick. If i'm not mistake, it's a feature added in the newest update to the Shield TV for non-tv apps to help navigate them better. I'm also unable to use the PS button or touchpad, but I just assumed it wasn't possible.
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Well I feel like a putz. I didn't even realize there was a micro USB on the back, or that it would function differently than the USB ports. Using an OTG cable like stated above does work, and there is no mouse prompts when using the right stick! Thank you @honosuseri
Jacobxtyler said:
Well I feel like a putz. I didn't even realize there was a micro USB on the back, or that it would function differently than the USB ports. Using an OTG cable like stated above does work, and there is no mouse prompts when using the right stick! Thank you @honosuseri
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Sorry for the confusion, I thought you were personally having problems with the SHIELD Portable with the built in pad. I was definitely talking about the SHIELD TV as you now know.
I have a USB HDD connected (adopted as internal storage) and had a USB receiver in the other port for a keyboard and mouse...that only left the Micro USB port available for the DS4, so I gave the OTG a go! Didn't take long to notice it worked far better than when in the standard USB 3 port. Happy to have helped
so there's no solution for this in shield android tv.. that's a pitty...

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