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Poor quality video with Flash since the update 3.1

Do or problem as well ?
Some streaming site worked well with 3.0.1
...and now the video is degraded with 3.1

I got same problem. Now flash movie on web site not run smooth as 3.01.

my personal experience is the opposite, like no question here at all, on 3.0.1 i would get stutters and laggy playback, and since the 3.1 update i have seen literally no lag or stuttering playing back 720p on imbedded video playback, youtube, anything. i keep seeing all these issue posts and threads about the 3.1 update but i am personally not experiencing any of them, my browser is an snappy as my ipad's browser, games/video playback anywhere (any quality) is perfect, navigation of any part of the os is snappier than before, battery life is exactly the same, i am happy with everything, i just want to be able to root 3.1 without adb and ill be 100% happy..

XsceneXhippieX said:
my personal experience is the opposite, like no question here at all, on 3.0.1 i would get stutters and laggy playback, and since the 3.1 update i have seen literally no lag or stuttering playing back 720p on imbedded video playback, youtube, anything. i keep seeing all these issue posts and threads about the 3.1 update but i am personally not experiencing any of them, my browser is an snappy as my ipad's browser, games/video playback anywhere (any quality) is perfect, navigation of any part of the os is snappier than before, battery life is exactly the same, i am happy with everything, i just want to be able to root 3.1 without adb and ill be 100% happy..
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u can play 720p with no lag or skipping in youtube from browser? anyway u can take a video of that and post, would be helpfull. did u factory reset?

Why are you watching youtube using flash when we have an app that lets us view the video using hardware acceleration?

flash seems to have improved for me

My Flash has gotten so much worse in both the stock Browser and Dolphin that I have gone back to using my ipad1 whenever I want to access a site that has an ios version. It's strange that the degradation is only when you use the browser, not an app.

cowballz69 said:
u can play 720p with no lag or skipping in youtube from browser? anyway u can take a video of that and post, would be helpfull. did u factory reset?
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i did not factory reset, but i havent ever rooted because i wanted the 3.1 update from asus and i read about some disadvantages in primordial, but i really didnt do anything special, just the official update, and i definately meant youtube specifically from the youtube app itself, but from the browser streaming and playing 720p from imbedded videos and/or other means than youtube hasnt lagged on me either (yet** i dont have the invincible tf), the one video "provider" that just plain doesnt work is vimeo for me, i think its a flash 10.3 issue or something because when hitting play the box goes black and never plays. i was just relaying my experience, i think after an update or 2 honeycomb is really going to make apple nervous though

I can't watch ESPN videos anymore. Does anyone know why? I think it was a result of Flash 10.2 and not Honeycomb 3.1. I've done some searches, but I haven't found anything really for the transformer.
Does anyone else have this problem? It just shows up as a picture and never plays video.

SilentMobius said:
Why are you watching youtube using flash when we have an app that lets us view the video using hardware acceleration?
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you do not know that the net uses a lot of flash video with the same cuts completely different? Flash knows how to manage everything by cons if the hardware part is not done properly, Flash is degraded.

This is Flash movie with 3.0.1 and after ! 3.1
If you understand what I see.
Yes youtube work fine, but not all websites.

can you post a link to that video so we can try the same one please

no, it's a subscription service

Mine was choppy before on 3.01 and still is on 3.1, no change it seems, sux

the above pictures highlight the problem perfectly, i have a second batch transformer and upgraded after first boot to 3.1 i was also thinking steve jobs was right re flash my ipad1 pisses all over my transformer, in every video test ive done, granted its rooted\jailbroken but at this moment apart from the dull UI the only thing it cant do is read anything over a 1 gig usb stick or sd card for movies. I now find it incredible how slick the ipad is with only 256mb ram. Even google are working away from flash. Still loving my transformer, but so wanted it to be everything my desire hd is compared to the iphone 4. I have even found my self going back to my ipad for invoicing and word processing, pages and numbers are slick. Come on google, this thing has loads of horse power and is running like a vw beatle.

PaulGG said:
the above pictures highlight the problem perfectly, i have a second batch transformer and upgraded after first boot to 3.1 i was also thinking steve jobs was right re flash my ipad1 pisses all over my transformer, in every video test ive done, granted its rooted\jailbroken but at this moment apart from the dull UI the only thing it cant do is read anything over a 1 gig usb stick or sd card for movies. I now find it incredible how slick the ipad is with only 256mb ram. Even google are working away from flash. Still loving my transformer, but so wanted it to be everything my desire hd is compared to the iphone 4. I have even found my self going back to my ipad for invoicing and word processing, pages and numbers are slick. Come on google, this thing has loads of horse power and is running like a vw beatle.
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Just a quick note to the above, i have just uninstalled flash 10.3 and adobe air and my tablet is running as fast as my ipad, html5 videos are working, flash is definatley buggy on honeycomb. Even when plugins were enabled on demand it was slow. Going to have acplay with a few options.

Hello,
Following the problems encountered, I wrote the team has adobe flash. After several exchanges of mail, they understood the problem. The person I spoke with said he passed the baton to the service of development, and they would arrange to get a tablet asus to see what happens.
Hi,
That's very helpful, thanks for the information. It's definitely something we want to look into.
I've opened a bug, and I have an email into our customer engineering team to try and get a tablet to test with.
Best regards,
Jeromie Clark
Quality Engineering Manager - Flash Runtime Mobile
Adobe Systems, Inc
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It's possible to write at [email protected] for this bug.

new Flash Update in market dont get excited

dont get to excied with the newest update from adobe flash, everything still lags and no changelog included

i thought the latest version of honeycomb was supposed to enable hardware acceleration for flash? Seems no different to me or maybe flash adverts run smoother..had a Toshiba folio which was running 2.2 back in November last year. Flash seems to have not really improve since then. To be honest I am getting sick of waiting and wonder if this is down to limitations of the tegra chip again? I want to be able to watch BBC I player in HD. Just stutters. Definately think if the frame rate improved it would look amazing on the transformer. Standard play black looks very pixelated. Ipad performance in term of playback is miles better on the Iplayer site (know the BBC would of optimised performance for the ipad) whole point of having flash on a tablet is sites like Iplayer should run smooth without special support.

i dont have laggy flash...?

andyzarins said:
i thought the latest version of honeycomb was supposed to enable hardware acceleration for flash? Seems no different to me or maybe flash adverts run smoother..had a Toshiba folio which was running 2.2 back in November last year. Flash seems to have not really improve since then. To be honest I am getting sick of waiting and wonder if this is down to limitations of the tegra chip again? I want to be able to watch BBC I player in HD. Just stutters. Definately think if the frame rate improved it would look amazing on the transformer. Standard play black looks very pixelated. Ipad performance in term of playback is miles better on the Iplayer site (know the BBC would of optimised performance for the ipad) whole point of having flash on a tablet is sites like Iplayer should run smooth without special support.
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Have you tried maximizing the screen?

weird... i don really have much laggy experience with flash since HC update...
then again, maybe the site i visit doesnt have that much flash

Have i tried maximising the screen? Yes it makes playback even worse lol. Flash is pants, works for adverts and SD video if you are lucky again thought 3.1 was going to enable harware acceleration. Are my expectations to high to expect smooth HD video performance of flash on utube and BBC I player.....

cowballz69 said:
dont get to excied with the newest update from adobe flash, everything still lags and no changelog included
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It was a security update.

no issues with flash here at all. Works just as good on my TF as my pc.

yeah, it is just a quick patch to fix a security hole.

andyzarins said:
Have i tried maximising the screen? Yes it makes playback even worse lol. Flash is pants, works for adverts and SD video if you are lucky again thought 3.1 was going to enable harware acceleration. Are my expectations to high to expect smooth HD video performance of flash on utube and BBC I player.....
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Mine has smooth HD performance on youtube and Iplayer, not sure what's up with yours

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Mine has smooth HD performance on youtube and Iplayer, not sure what's up with yours
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Hmmmmm. Most posts I have read disagree. You Tube only works smoothly via the app. I player is smooth but only when watching Sd video. If you try and stream anything HD it falls over.. You have to change the settings in your browser to appear as a desktop otherwise the bbc website defaults to mobile and all content is standard definition. Things like the BBC HD channel won't even be listed. Sorry the other person who posted that flash performance on the Asus was just as good as their desktop must have a poo PC........

youtube speed test
For those with flash issues, has anyone tried the youtube speed test?
http://www.youtube.com/my_speed
Make sure to click the "Show Test Video" link.

levenite said:
For those with flash issues, has anyone tried the youtube speed test?
http://www.youtube.com/my_speed
Make sure to click the "Show Test Video" link.
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The test video does not load. I have a 30 mb broadband connection but it is only showing just over 3mbps for utube speed average and my connection to the router is 72 mbps which i thought is fairly good. May have a quick play with my wireless router.

For those with flash lags, what site(s) is this happening on? I'd love to test them out. Flash has been quite solid, but it's not working on the browers I use (Firefox, Opera, etc.).
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No lag here.

There's no lag with 420p were getting lag with 720p wich was supposed to be fixed in 3.1 and it was clearly not

Well i read this could be an issue with my ISP virgin media. However, not sure how likely this is my PC performance with both youtube and iplayer is excellent. Unless this is a specific issue with android and my router which is possible. Sorry can I check again can anyone in the uk access BBC Iplayer with watchable playback in HD? Could be a wider issue with some types of routers. Anyone getting more than a 72mbps connection speed to their router.

EP2008 said:
For those with flash lags, what site(s) is this happening on? I'd love to test them out. Flash has been quite solid, but it's not working on the browers I use (Firefox, Opera, etc.).
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Try this site:
http://www.ittf.com/ittv/
Click on any of the videos. My TF will not play any of them without stuttering and macro-blocking.
My biggest disappointment with my 3.1 TF is that it does not play flash videos properly, via any of the browsers.

chungylau said:
Try this site:
http://www.ittf.com/ittv/
Click on any of the videos. My TF will not play any of them without stuttering and macro-blocking.
My biggest disappointment with my 3.1 TF is that it does not play flash videos properly, via any of the browsers.
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I see what you mean. For that site, I would either have to say the problems are coming from the unconventionl player they are using or perhaps the streams are coming from overseas.
Does that page play well on a computer?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

EP2008 said:
I see what you mean. For that site, I would either have to say the problems are coming from the unconventionl player they are using or perhaps the streams are coming from overseas.
Does that page play well on a computer?
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I haven't got my TF with me, but it runs fine on a macbook.

Flash playback on TF vs Tab 10.1

I have both TF and the Tab 10.1 right now and contemplating returning one. I liked both the tablets, but one little issue I dont like about the TF is flash playback. Flash playback even in 720p, is ultra smooth on the 10.1, while its choppy at best on the TF. Anyone else facing the same issue?
Anyone running custom ROMs able to fix this? Would getting the browser apk from the Tab 10.1 fix this issue on thr TF?

Is your TF on 3.1 or the stock 3.0? I had some really bad lag and skipping with my TF when I was on the stock 3.0. I manually installed the 3.1 update from a link on the XDA forum. Was easy and went smoothly. Ever since, my flash playback via youtube has been butter on HD.

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Is your TF on 3.1 or the stock 3.0? I had some really bad lag and skipping with my TF when I was on the stock 3.0. I manually installed the 3.1 update from a link on the XDA forum. Was easy and went smoothly. Ever since, my flash playback via youtube has been butter on HD.
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Yea I'm on 3.1, installed from XDA. The flash playback is bad for me.

Same here. Flash playback is much smoother on the 10.1. Especially on browser.

this is a known issue, go to .. http://www.youtube.com/my_speed
Scroll down and hit show test video.. URL see the fps, change it to 720p on my tf it gets 9-10 ,where is the xookm gets 30+ on all videos , and I'm on 3.1
Seems like hardware acceleration isn't working with tf...
What does 10.1 get

italia0101 said:
this is a known issue, go to .. http://www.youtube.com/my_speed
Scroll down and hit show test video.. URL see the fps, change it to 720p on my tf it gets 9-10 ,where is the xookm gets 30+ on all videos , and I'm on 3.1
Seems like hardware acceleration isn't working with tf...
What does 10.1 get
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10.1 gets 30-35 fps for me, while the TF gets what you reported.
Just wondering, can any devs turn on Hardware accerelation in their ROM's ?

no idea.. its really annoying though as this is what I really looked forward to in 3.1..

ENOUGH OF THE VS THREADS ALREADY!
Either you like it or not. Just make up your mind by yourself....because that is ALL that is gonna use it....YOU.
SO asking others will not help YOU out.
Sorry for the outburst but these VS threads are getting out of hand and are just going to start a flame war. They should NOT be allowed.

Digiguest said:
ENOUGH OF THE VS THREADS ALREADY!
Either you like it or not. Just make up your mind by yourself....because that is ALL that is gonna use it....YOU.
SO asking others will not help YOU out.
Sorry for the outburst but these VS threads are getting out of hand and are just going to start a flame war. They should NOT be allowed.
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This is a valid issue though and I for one and interested in other users' experiences. I was unaware that flash runs better on the other HC tablets and had put it down to being just a HC + Flash issue.

Digiguest said:
ENOUGH OF THE VS THREADS ALREADY!
Either you like it or not. Just make up your mind by yourself....because that is ALL that is gonna use it....YOU.
SO asking others will not help YOU out.
Sorry for the outburst but these VS threads are getting out of hand and are just going to start a flame war. They should NOT be allowed.
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There was no intention of flame. The question was asked, to find out what different in the TF, having the same hardware n the OS as the Tab 10.1. I'm not asking others to take my decision, I'm only asking others to help me resolve an issue, which I feel is important in my decision making. Stop jumping onto obnoxious conclusions.

There is no fix for this problem. Only Asus can provide a solution. And i hope they doing it asap.

me too.. so annoying as oit works on any other 3.1 tablet...

Srikar_NBK said:
I have both TF and the Tab 10.1 right now and contemplating returning one. I liked both the tablets, but one little issue I dont like about the TF is flash playback. Flash playback even in 720p, is ultra smooth on the 10.1, while its choppy at best on the TF. Anyone else facing the same issue?
Anyone running custom ROMs able to fix this? Would getting the browser apk from the Tab 10.1 fix this issue on thr TF?
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yes, i am reakkt disappoint about the flash performance..though i love my transformer.
hope it will be solved soon, like the youtube app playback issue

I agree that the weak threads about nonsense details between tablets and which is better are useless. This thread, however, is clearly asking an important question. Why are tablets that essentially use the same hardware and same software performing differently?

I have had no issues with flash playback being "choppy". I would use the speed test, but my tab is in Texas right now. Haha.
Anyway, this is definately a software issue and you can expect a fix either on XDA or courtesy of Asus. It's not something that will always be a problem and shouldn't be a deciding factor, imo.
Afterall, can't you root and install a custom ROM to alleviate the problem?

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Afterall, can't you root and install a custom ROM to alleviate the problem?
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That was a part of my question too. This is one of the deciding factor for me right now, bcoz I spend lot of time on Youtube and I have major buffering issues using the youtube app on both tabs, which strangely is not there when using flash

Mine is rooted running Prime 1.4, latest clem kernel, OC'd to 1.6ghz and it still is only getting 9-10. Tried in stock browser as well as Dolphin HD. I'm not sure where the bottleneck is... Not sure if it helps anyone but for some relative numbers, the quadrant score is 4000+.
So, it seems to not be a processing power bottleneck but some other factor.

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Mine is rooted running Prime 1.4, latest clem kernel, OC'd to 1.6ghz and it still is only getting 9-10. Tried in stock browser as well as Dolphin HD. I'm not sure where the bottleneck is... Not sure if it helps anyone but for some relative numbers, the quadrant score is 4000+.
So, it seems to not be a processing power bottleneck but some other factor.
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Of course it isn't the processing power. When he's saying other tablets with identical clock speeds and identical processors perform better, that's a given! lol
I'd get an advanced task manager-type app and go through disabling features and turning off background programs until the problem is resolved. Troubleshoot it.

It's not a processing problem as that test video clearly shows that the transformer is using software decoding rather than the hardware decoding it should be using.
It's either an issue of missing libs on the transformer or Flash falling back to software decoding when it shouldn't be. I'll steal a copy of the flash system libs from the tab and install them in the transformer to see if that fixes the issue.
sassafras

Just ran the test, and I'm getting the same poor results. And, I'm not sure if it's relevant (might not be saying what I'm thinking it is), but the test video also indicates software decoding. Not sure if this should say hardware decoding, but it sure seems like it would make sense.
This does seem like an issue if other Honeycomb 3.1/Tegra 2 tablets are performing better here and/or using hardware decoding. Makes one wonder where else there might be issues.
Asus, if you're checking these threads out, looks like something you should be fixing.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

No Flash from now on. Anyone else finding it an inconvenience on their 7?

Let's face it, no matter how much business you can make with your Nexus 7, a tablet is designed mainly for entertainment. A bigger screen usually means that we get to enjoy certain medias on a bigger screen, aka videos. However not every streaming website can afford or even cares enough to have fancy apps like Youtube and if you stream live channels online for emergency sports on your work computer you would know that flash still plays a part in our daily life.
As Adobe quits on Flash on our future Androids to get everyone into the HTML5 stage, PC users will still have a fairly high amount of data for grabs through Flash but our tablets will be losing that whole side of information while the transition goes through. Although I don't, but I could imagine my girlfriend playing an online Flash game on my 7 but it won't happen anymore.
and... we lose one thing to show-off to the iOS users...
How is everyone else coping with the fading of Flash on our mobile devices?

you can still side load flash and use it with other browsers it works well

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you can still side load flash and use it with other browsers it works well
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+100 to that

+1 using aosp browser and the latest adobe flash. Stole it from my mobile.
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pretty easy to get flash..
First install the AOSP browser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780746
After that, I still had some newer flash content saying it needed the latest flash player, so installed the two flash players from this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...189897-no-flash-got-you-down-try-fix.html#anb
Works perfectly now!

Yeah I was bummed out when I first read that on Adobes web site. Yeah eventually most sites will hopefully change or add support for our tablets and phones to compensate foir Adobe doing that however being that we have the lovely OS that we do there are very easy workarounds! I installed the AOSP browser @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780746 and flash @ https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgsd3gyy7v6c90j/com.adobe.flashplayer-1.apk This is great too because I prefer the AOSP browser (I love the full screen mode with quick controls). The bookmarks don't sync though.. So I just kept the Chrome Bookmarks widget on my homescreen and set the default browser as Browser. Works like a charm!

I despise flash so I don't miss it on my device, at least not for anything important. Bring on HTML5!

yea everyone despises flash. high CPU usage low performance. but it has been playing such a big part in the past 10 years or so that it might just be TOO sudden a change when not everyone has gone to HTML5 and officially taken out flash as a whole. This might hurt Android as it is a crucial time Post-Jobs for android to have a major counter attack on iOS and an obvious visible advantage has been taken out.

I sideloaded flash & firefox for iplayer but other than that I haven't missed, the sooner flash dies the better.
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I have had absolutely no problem with not having Flash.
When you referred to other streaming sites, are you talking about porn sites? lol

I sideloaded flash and the AOSP browser so I could use iPlayer, but that's pretty much it. Also added the iPlayer app once I found the APK.

woshiweili said:
I have had absolutely no problem with not having Flash.
When you referred to other streaming sites, are you talking about porn sites? lol
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Hahaha maybe but no actually I care more about streaming sports haha

hunter3160 said:
you can still side load flash and use it with other browsers it works well
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It works for now but as time goes on and android has more updates how long will it continue to work? At some point it may break completely.
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I sideloaded flash and the AOSP browser so I could use iPlayer, but that's pretty much it. Also added the iPlayer app once I found the APK.
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The bbc have already said they are testing a version for 4.1 https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCiPlayer/status/218712600161157120
Sent from my Transformer while the N7 is lost in the Play Store Black Hole.
16gb N7 UK ordered 3rd July.

No.

jmrog said:
pretty easy to get flash..
First install the AOSP browser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780746
After that, I still had some newer flash content saying it needed the latest flash player, so installed the two flash players from this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...189897-no-flash-got-you-down-try-fix.html#anb
Works perfectly now!
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Was about to link this. Just install the apk and flash content will play on the stock aosp browser .
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Flash Performance on Nexus 7

Hi. I am looking for an Android tablet for my wife so that she can watch Flash content on the go. We went to the local Best Buy to check out the Samsung Galaxy Tab, Asus Transformer, and the Kindle Fire. I was able to load up the website on each device and my wife found that the videos that she wanted to watch worked best on the Kindle while the other two had choppy playback. It made me wonder if the Silk browser had something to do with performance.
Since it seems that the release date for the Kindle Fire 2 is later than previously thought, I had some questions since I wish to purchase the device before we go on vacation. I am wondering if the Kindle Fire 2 will support Flash through its Silk browser (given that Adobe has given up on mobile support). Does the Nexus 7 with sideloaded Flash and Firefox Beta perform well and how does it compare to the current Kindle Fire using Silk? Does the website matter for performance?
The site in question is a Korean video site (for soaps) which sometimes redirects to another site and sometimes to Youtube. Since I can't read the website, I can only rely on my wife to choose her videos. We have already tried out the iPad with Photon, but the video was too choppy for her.
For the timing of purchase, I also wonder if the August 15th date for Adobe Flash availability will make a difference.
Thanks for your thoughts

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Does the Nexus 7 with sideloaded Flash and Firefox Beta perform well and how does it compare to the current Kindle Fire using Silk? Does the website matter for performance?
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With sideloaded Flash and the latest Aurora browser http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/aurora/ I can watch 720p t.v shows on BBC iPlayer with no hiccups, flash performance is excellent. The website will matter for the speed from which you download the flash content but will not affect the actual performance of the flash plug-in (this is browser dependent for the most part).
Go for the Nexus 7, but remember Adobe is pulling mobile flash support for all devices, to get flash running on anything in the future you're gonna have to sideload and use a different browser than Chrome for Android no matter which device. Obviously I don't know for certain but I would think the Kindle Fire 2's default browser would adhere to these guidelines and be lacking flash support––but I may be wrong of course.

gaz617 said:
With sideloaded Flash and the latest Aurora browser http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/aurora/ I can watch 720p t.v shows on BBC iPlayer with no hiccups, flash performance is excellent. The website will matter for the speed from which you download the flash content but will not affect the actual performance of the flash plug-in (this is browser dependent for the most part).
Go for the Nexus 7, but remember Adobe is pulling mobile flash support for all devices, to get flash running on anything in the future you're gonna have to sideload and use a different browser than Chrome for Android no matter which device. Obviously I don't know for certain but I would think the Kindle Fire 2's default browser would adhere to these guidelines and be lacking flash support––but I may be wrong of course.
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Do not buy this tablet you will be disappointed. Flash lags big time. You need to side load flash. That's why it could be lagging. In ll aspects this is stone age device. I am retuning mine.

tabing said:
Do not buy this tablet you will be disappointed. Flash lags big time. You need to side load flash. That's why it could be lagging. In ll aspects this is stone age device. I am retuning mine.
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If you turn the tablet around, the 10 Commandments are etched on the back...
I play the kongregate game, Tyrant. It lags really bad. In the tablets' defense, my PC does not fair much better. I only used xscope browser, maybe others fair better.
Flash is unsupported by adobe. Not Google.

I am not saying its google fault that there is no flash. But I am saying the device is way too basic. This technology looks like 3 years old.

gaz617 said:
I can watch 720p t.v shows on BBC iPlayer with no hiccups, flash performance is excellent.
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Not to hijack this thread, but what source/thread/guide/apk's did you use to sideload and get Flash working on your device? I followed this thread, but I get no sound when using Flash in Aurora unless I'm watching a YouTube video set to 240p (and I couldn't get Flash to load at all in any other browser): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336

tabing said:
Do not buy this tablet you will be disappointed. Flash lags big time. You need to side load flash. That's why it could be lagging. In ll aspects this is stone age device. I am retuning mine.
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I'm guessing that you are referring to the Nexus 7. The person whom you quoted didn't seem to think there was any lag. If you are returning the Nexus, what didn't you like? Which tablet are you going to replace it with? Which one would you suggest for Flash content?

gaz617 said:
With sideloaded Flash and the latest Aurora browser http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/aurora/ I can watch 720p t.v shows on BBC iPlayer with no hiccups, flash performance is excellent. The website will matter for the speed from which you download the flash content but will not affect the actual performance of the flash plug-in (this is browser dependent for the most part).
Go for the Nexus 7, but remember Adobe is pulling mobile flash support for all devices, to get flash running on anything in the future you're gonna have to sideload and use a different browser than Chrome for Android no matter which device. Obviously I don't know for certain but I would think the Kindle Fire 2's default browser would adhere to these guidelines and be lacking flash support––but I may be wrong of course.
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I read a few threads in regards to Flash support for the Kindle Fire. It seems that the Silk browser has Flash support built in. The user has the option to turn on or turn off this feature. As expected, having this feature does slow web browsing. I'm wondering if Amazon's servers have any effect on video streaming of Flash content. All the tablets I mentioned above could run Youtube (from the browser) when Flash was installed. But only the Kindle Fire could smoothly play the video my wife wanted. Odd, considering that the Kindle Fire's specs are below the newer devices.

If you can link me directly to any videos, then I'd be glad to try them out for you. I just tried 1080p videos from YouTube and it played them without a hitch. I don't think that I've encountered any problems with flash video yet.

GGXtreme said:
Not to hijack this thread, but what source/thread/guide/apk's did you use to sideload and get Flash working on your device? I followed this thread, but I get no sound when using Flash in Aurora unless I'm watching a YouTube video set to 240p (and I couldn't get Flash to load at all in any other browser): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/go...rum/189897-no-flash-got-you-down-try-fix.html
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

AZImmortal said:
If you can link me directly to any videos, then I'd be glad to try them out for you. I just tried 1080p videos from YouTube and it played them without a hitch. I don't think that I've encountered any problems with flash video yet.
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Thanks. I'm afraid that I don't understand the video, but one can tell if the video is choppy. We currently have DSL 3 Mbps speeds, but when we travel, I'll probably have 1.5 Mbps using DataJack (which uses the Sprint network).
http://www.netsko.com/index.php?mid=tv_drama&document_srl=1073631
The original link is through a Chinese website which my wife can't read. She uses netsko.com to help her sort through the videos. The link above is one of many links to various Korean soaps.
Thanks again for the help.

The playback was completely smooth but it seems like the audio is delayed by half a second or so. You'll have to let me know if this audio delay is inherent to the video (or is the audio dubbed and I can't tell?).

AZImmortal said:
The playback was completely smooth but it seems like the audio is delayed by half a second or so. You'll have to let me know if this audio delay is inherent to the video (or is the audio dubbed and I can't tell?).
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My wife states that both videos on our laptop are synchronized. Did you try it at full screen or directly from the webpage? Is there a difference? What is your internet speed or does that not make much of a difference? How did you set up your Nexus 7 with Flash (browser, sideloading, etc)? Do you have any tweaks to make your Nexus go faster?
Sorry for so many questions. Thanks again.

Curious D said:
My wife states that both videos on our laptop are synchronized. Did you try it at full screen or directly from the webpage? Is there a difference? What is your internet speed or does that not make much of a difference? How did you set up your Nexus 7 with Flash (browser, sideloading, etc)? Do you have any tweaks to make your Nexus go faster?
Sorry for so many questions. Thanks again.
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I've tried both and there's no difference. My internet connection is plenty fast, but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't affect the sync (it would just take longer for it to load). It shouldn't be a performance issue because the video and audio are both playing at full speed without any drops. It must be some kind of software issue, like maybe the video wrapper used by the website isn't fully compliant in some way (pure speculation on my part). As I mentioned earlier, 1080p video from YouTube worked just fine. This audio delay was present in both Dolphin Browser and the AOSP browser.
As far as my setup goes, I'm running SGT7 build 3 with motley kernel 1.0.12, and I restored Flash and Dolphin Browser from Titanium Backups. I've overclocked my cpu to 1.624ghz and my gpu is overclocked to 520mhz.

The nexus 7 performs flash well, but not excellent. for some reason, all flash content is displayed at what appears to be 320x240 from what i see. ex
Watching youtube in firefox beta
Flash games in firefox beta
Could be firefox, could not. the nexus 7 is Definitely fast enough, but the question is does flash take advantage of tegra 3.

jombo2323 said:
The nexus 7 performs flash well, but not excellent. for some reason, all flash content is displayed at what appears to be 320x240 from what i see. ex
Watching youtube in firefox beta
Flash games in firefox beta
Could be firefox, could not. the nexus 7 is Definitely fast enough, but the question is does flash take advantage of tegra 3.
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I hadn't tried Firefox beta until now, and it's definitely not playing flash correctly. Even when I set the YouTube video to 1080p, it still looks all pixilated. You should try Dolphin or the AOSP browser.

AZImmortal said:
I've tried both and there's no difference. My internet connection is plenty fast, but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't affect the sync (it would just take longer for it to load). It shouldn't be a performance issue because the video and audio are both playing at full speed without any drops. It must be some kind of software issue, like maybe the video wrapper used by the website isn't fully compliant in some way (pure speculation on my part). As I mentioned earlier, 1080p video from YouTube worked just fine. This audio delay was present in both Dolphin Browser and the AOSP browser.
As far as my setup goes, I'm running SGT7 build 3 with motley kernel 1.0.12, and I restored Flash and Dolphin Browser from Titanium Backups. I've overclocked my cpu to 1.624ghz and my gpu is overclocked to 520mhz.
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Are you using a Nexus 7? It sounds like you have rooted your device. Since I don't intend to root the device, how does stock Nexus 7 play with Flash? If you have a Nexus 7, is there a way for you to bring down your clock speeds to factory settings and play the videos again? Does rooting the device alter the playback performance?
Edit: I just chuckled to myself realizing the forum in which I post. I guess I would be hard pressed to find someone here who hasn't modded their device.

jombo2323 said:
The nexus 7 performs flash well, but not excellent. for some reason, all flash content is displayed at what appears to be 320x240 from what i see. ex
Watching youtube in firefox beta
Flash games in firefox beta
Could be firefox, could not. the nexus 7 is Definitely fast enough, but the question is does flash take advantage of tegra 3.
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Are you locked to 320x240? That would kind of blow in terms of quality. I'm guessing that since Adobe is giving up, they weren't trying hard to work with any video processor. Have you tried the other browser suggested? Is your Nexus set at factory settings?

Flash Performance on anything is rubbish, it always was and it always will be.
Side-loading flash onto my Nexus 7 and using the Firefox Beta, it works great for me, but I don't use it I purely installed it because my dad was curious as to whether he could play *shudder* cafe world on facebook, which I figured would probably suck, and it did, but that game sucks on my gaming rig PC so it was not really a surprise.
tabing said:
I am not saying its google fault that there is no flash. But I am saying the device is way too basic. This technology looks like 3 years old.
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I do think they had some manufacturing bugs to work out as I'm about to return mine for a screen flickering issue, but just it terms of raw spec's, a quad core cpu with additional low power idle CPU and a 12 core gpu in a high res (1280x800) 7" capacitive touch tablet with 10+ hours of constant use battery life, NFC, bluetooth 3.0, 12.5 days of standby is all amazingly new... for $199? (okay well $318 by the time it gets here in Australia with 16gb of storage on it, but still)

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Are you using a Nexus 7? It sounds like you have rooted your device. Since I don't intend to root the device, how does stock Nexus 7 play with Flash? If you have a Nexus 7, is there a way for you to bring down your clock speeds to factory settings and play the videos again? Does rooting the device alter the playback performance?
Edit: I just chuckled to myself realizing the forum in which I post. I guess I would be hard pressed to find someone here who hasn't modded their device.
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Of course I'm using a Nexus 7, haha. Yes, it's definitely rooted, and I can't comment about stock performance because I rooted and flashed a custom ROM immediately. I just set my cpu to stock (1.3ghz) and it still played the same. I can't change the gpu speed without flashing a new kernel, but I believe that flash is cpu-limited anyway (which is why they're moving away from flash) so it probably shouldn't really matter. Rooting in and of itself has no effect on performance, but it will allow you to do things that can affect performance, like flash custom ROMs and kernels, overclock, etc.