hey guys , one question does the kin two got multi touch ? i mean can you press two fingers at one time and both of them register correctly?!
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Depends on what you mean by multi-touch. In certain Applications you can do a multi-touch to do a multi delete by pressing the "X" that pops up..and in the browser you can pinch to zoom in/out
Can Kin Two recognize coordinates of 2 fingers?
Real dulatouch...
Is there another way to do pinch zoom in/out?
Also, you can do this in the Camera App as well (both when taking a picture and viewing it later).
I assume that for the Kin to understand the pinch gesture, it has to recognize two fingers and their coordinates so that it can tell whether they are moving closer together or further apart.
One other example of multi-finger gestures on the Kin is that to configure your home screen apps or your favorites in the browser app, you do a two-finger tap to get into the arrange/delete mode and then two finger tap again when you are done moving & removing items.
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The hardware can handle multiple touchscreen input at the same time. The software is limited though, in how it interprets that input. You can "two finger tap" the home page to rearrange the icons, pinch-zoom on pictures, webpages, etc.
I'm not saying it would ever happen, but IF the device were to have a fully multi-touch aware OS, like Android and its Apps, then it could handle the input properly.
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is it possible to navigate, for example contact, in HTC Touch Pro by scrolling the D-Pad?
so it would function like iPod's scroll wheel...
is there any program to do that?
Did you know.......there is a touch sceen?
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Did you know.......there is a touch sceen?
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yeah..
i know..
i just like to know whether it is possible or not..
hahhas.
is it just me, or is the iPod scroll wheel scroll is counter productive?
why scroll and stress your thumb doing a circular motion if you can just press and hold (up or down on a long list)? or tap once, twice or trice (for short ones)?
it's not as revolutionary and "re-inventing the wheel" as crApple wants you to believe, you know..
just another eye-catching gimic promoting devolution..
3D scroll - works in a few places - among others in the browser where You can zoom in and out - as much/less as you want. It works MUCH better than double tapping etc.
I which HTC would have implemented the scroll function in all their applications, because it is much easier to control how much to scroll.
I'm use to the wheel on SE M600 & Pxx - and this navigation is a lot quicker and more precise than tapping&touching - however does not look so cool in the bar
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3D scroll - works in a few places - among others in the browser where You can zoom in and out - as much/less as you want. It works MUCH better than double tapping etc.
I which HTC would have implemented the scroll function in all their applications, because it is much easier to control how much to scroll.
I'm use to the wheel on SE M600 & Pxx - and this navigation is a lot quicker and more precise than tapping&touching - however does not look so cool in the bar
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i'm talking about using the four way directional/navigational button below the display..
it's better to press/tap (and/or hold) the buttons instead of doing circular motions when going through lists..
the zooming function (using the touch sensitive navigation buttons) implemented by HTC really is precise and functional because it makes the process smooth (rather than step zooming) and it also gives the directions dual purpose (press to pan, rotate scroll to zoom).. but would you still prefer using it on very very long lists (say 200 contatct entries or songs on a playlist)?
let's disregard the touchscreen for a moment..
if one complete revolution scrolls you to about 10 entries, then it'll take you atleast 15 revolutions and approximately 15 seconds (one thumb revolution/sec) to reach the 150th entry..
then compare it to a single press of the down button and holding it down for, say, 10 seconds (depending on your key repitition and acceleration settings) to reach the 150th entry. then give or take 5 entry adjustment for precision.
which of the 2 do you think gets you there faster with a less sore thumb/wrist/ligament?
maybe that's why they didn't implement it thruout the system (to navigate lists).. because it is still better (and less stressful) to press than rotate your thumb when going up or down lists..
i find the scroll wheel usefull in some apps, and thankfull a list of applications that it can be made to work in and the appropriate registry entriles are detailed in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206&highlight=scroll
Its mains for the diamond but the pro is not so different.
I second that, scroll wheel is MUCH more precise. Sometimes it is really faster and more useful, especially when I just have one hand for operating my PPC (ie. audiomanager).
And btw, click&hold down is much more ardous than scrolling with the wheel (for me at least).
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i'm talking about using the four way directional/navigational button below the display..
it's better to press/tap (and/or hold) the buttons instead of doing circular motions when going through lists..
the zooming function (using the touch sensitive navigation buttons) implemented by HTC really is precise and functional because it makes the process smooth (rather than step zooming) and it also gives the directions dual purpose (press to pan, rotate scroll to zoom).. but would you still prefer using it on very very long lists (say 200 contatct entries or songs on a playlist)?
let's disregard the touchscreen for a moment..
if one complete revolution scrolls you to about 10 entries, then it'll take you atleast 15 revolutions and approximately 15 seconds (one thumb revolution/sec) to reach the 150th entry..
then compare it to a single press of the down button and holding it down for, say, 10 seconds (depending on your key repitition and acceleration settings) to reach the 150th entry. then give or take 5 entry adjustment for precision.
which of the 2 do you think gets you there faster with a less sore thumb/wrist/ligament?
maybe that's why they didn't implement it thruout the system (to navigate lists).. because it is still better (and less stressful) to press than rotate your thumb when going up or down lists..
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I flick, it scrolls, when I've reached the desired item, I tap!
there is a little app called "ppod" and it's just a music player that looks like an ipod, you scroll using the touchscreen in the circular motion that you would with an ipod.
What is this process and what does it do? I found it in \Windows and it's size is 91600 bytes (89.4k). It is nowhere as Autorun or a startup service, yet it starts everytime i turn on the phone. I kill it manually.
If i kill the process, nothing bad happends, everything works, and even better, some lag disappears.
Any1 knows what it is??
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401984&page=6.
I would suggest you start from this page, because of the following quote:
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HTC had no reason to include an application it their ROM if it wasn't needed.
The application is used wherever a "cube-like" action is requested.
For example kill biotouch, go to your mail and swing left to get to the next msg..
BOUM, phone freeze, soft reset.
At least this happened to me with a 1.93 ROM
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Killing this process makes the X1 a lot faster on the WM GUI level! No crashes, no freezes, evereything seems to work as normal. So what is it for on the X1?
The only thing I noticed, that PocketBreeze doesn't show the messages on the message tab after killing the process.
on biotouch depend some gestures but you can live without them
Killing biotouch seems to have really given my X1 a kick up the a**! More responsive, task manager shows 5-6% usage now. Nothing seems to be missing either. Eraly days thou, I see how it goes..
When I open and close the screen switches to landscape a whole lot quicker too!
One question on my mind "Whats the catch?"!
Silly question, but how do i see my processes?
Install this task manager on your X1..
Try disabling biotouch.exe
If it gives you an improvement then install this to stop biotouch.exe from starting the next time you restart your X1.. Make sure biotouch.exe has been stopped in the task manager before running this.
It controls finger scrolling through emails etc. and for me I couldn't live without. If you don;t need this then should be fine to kill.
so it only controls scrolling? nothing else?
finger scrolling up/down or left/right (to go to previous/next messages) also?
would killing biotouch make it not work on the screen, but would i still be able to go left/right on the optical pad?
disabled biotouch and still have finger scrolling everywhere, don't have any difference, just less memory consumption an maybe a bit more speed.
I have the normal task manager, but can't see any program running.
Do I have to install the task manager cab from the first page?
Biotouch enhances logics processing of touch input. It is because of this program that you can use the ultra-small high-res Windows Mobile default keyboard using your thumb on the very small square keys/buttons, and be able to accurately press the buttons you intend to press. (Anyway I prefer Spb Keyboard instead hehe).
Biotouch calculates equidistant midpoints between the perimeter edges of your finger touch, and incorporates touch pressures (with the center of your touch having the most pressure), in its algorithm for accuracy.
Try it yourself: use the keyboard with large keys/buttons on an iPhone 3G, and then use the default Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard using your XPERIA which has even smaller keys/buttons. You will be surprised how much easier it is to press the intended buttons on your XPERIA than the iPhone with its capacitative touch screen.
Biotouch helps with other things too like enhancing touch-scrolling based on how much of the touch surface your finger stayed on the screen during a gesture, to decide what type of scroll to do.
Another thing it helps with is distinguishing finger touch from stylus touch. If one small high-pressure point is detected it assumes it's your stylus. In some situations you may be able to scroll easily with your finger but not with your stylus, as using the stylus you would be selecting text instead, for example.
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I have the normal task manager, but can't see any program running.
Do I have to install the task manager cab from the first page?
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Yes. It runs just like Windows Task Manager highlighting programs running in the background and giving you the option to 'Terminate' (End Task) an application.
I notice that if I have a large html email and use "tap to scroll right" option it starts biotouch.exe.
If the fix is installed to stop biotouch then the phone crashes. So either dont scroll right in the emails or I just remember to kill biotouch once im finished.. Although I get a lot of email I personally dont need to use the scroll right function very often..
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Biotouch enhances logics processing of touch input. It is because of this program that you can use the ultra-small high-res Windows Mobile default keyboard using your thumb on the very small square keys/buttons, and be able to accurately press the buttons you intend to press. (Anyway I prefer Spb Keyboard instead hehe).
Biotouch calculates equidistant midpoints between the perimeter edges of your finger touch, and incorporates touch pressures (with the center of your touch having the most pressure), in its algorithm for accuracy.
Try it yourself: use the keyboard with large keys/buttons on an iPhone 3G, and then use the default Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard using your XPERIA which has even smaller keys/buttons. You will be surprised how much easier it is to press the intended buttons on your XPERIA than the iPhone with its capacitative touch screen.
Biotouch helps with other things too like enhancing touch-scrolling based on how much of the touch surface your finger stayed on the screen during a gesture, to decide what type of scroll to do.
Another thing it helps with is distinguishing finger touch from stylus touch. If one small high-pressure point is detected it assumes it's your stylus. In some situations you may be able to scroll easily with your finger but not with your stylus, as using the stylus you would be selecting text instead, for example.
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in this case, biotouch is impt
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Biotouch enhances logics processing of touch input. It is because of this program that you can use the ultra-small high-res Windows Mobile default keyboard using your thumb on the very small square keys/buttons, and be able to accurately press the buttons you intend to press. (Anyway I prefer Spb Keyboard instead hehe).
Biotouch calculates equidistant midpoints between the perimeter edges of your finger touch, and incorporates touch pressures (with the center of your touch having the most pressure), in its algorithm for accuracy.
Try it yourself: use the keyboard with large keys/buttons on an iPhone 3G, and then use the default Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard using your XPERIA which has even smaller keys/buttons. You will be surprised how much easier it is to press the intended buttons on your XPERIA than the iPhone with its capacitative touch screen.
Biotouch helps with other things too like enhancing touch-scrolling based on how much of the touch surface your finger stayed on the screen during a gesture, to decide what type of scroll to do.
Another thing it helps with is distinguishing finger touch from stylus touch. If one small high-pressure point is detected it assumes it's your stylus. In some situations you may be able to scroll easily with your finger but not with your stylus, as using the stylus you would be selecting text instead, for example.
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Didn't know my fingers were that powerful
holdout said:
Biotouch enhances logics processing of touch input. It is because of this program that you can use the ultra-small high-res Windows Mobile default keyboard using your thumb on the very small square keys/buttons, and be able to accurately press the buttons you intend to press. (Anyway I prefer Spb Keyboard instead hehe).
Biotouch calculates equidistant midpoints between the perimeter edges of your finger touch, and incorporates touch pressures (with the center of your touch having the most pressure), in its algorithm for accuracy.
Try it yourself: use the keyboard with large keys/buttons on an iPhone 3G, and then use the default Windows Mobile on-screen QWERTY keyboard using your XPERIA which has even smaller keys/buttons. You will be surprised how much easier it is to press the intended buttons on your XPERIA than the iPhone with its capacitative touch screen.
Biotouch helps with other things too like enhancing touch-scrolling based on how much of the touch surface your finger stayed on the screen during a gesture, to decide what type of scroll to do.
Another thing it helps with is distinguishing finger touch from stylus touch. If one small high-pressure point is detected it assumes it's your stylus. In some situations you may be able to scroll easily with your finger but not with your stylus, as using the stylus you would be selecting text instead, for example.
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Make thes sticky somewhere
I just ordered an X1a, but what I would really love to see is the option to use the TouchPad to zoom. On my HTC Touch Cruise, I have a jog dial that works to zoom when I am in Opera, HTC Picture Viewer, and RSS. Yes, there are other ways to zoom, but they aren't as fast, slick, or precise as would be a flick on the touch pad. Also, I love being able to zoom in on mobile webpages, where Opera doesn't display the on screen zoom button.
The Touch Pro and Diamond, also have this functionality, furthermore, the new TP2 and D2 have the zoom bar. Since these devices have such small screens, having an easy way to zoom is crucial imo.
Has anyone tinkered with this idea? Or would anyone know where to start to get this working?
Volume buttons working as zoom in and out in Opera Browser
Thanks for the reply! That actually does help. But it would still be sooo much nicer to have a zoom control that provides a smooth gradient, as opposed to a strict increments that pushing the volume button would give.
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Volume buttons working as zoom in and out in Opera Browser
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Thanks i didnt know this.
u can also double tap the d-pad sensor area
yes it would be a nice feature if there was an option to do so with the touchpad. i dont like the big incremental steps when zooming by double tapping the screen. the volume button is ok but i believe it only works in opera.
I've done some searching and can't find a keyboard input that only shows the up/down/right/left arrows. There are a few d-pad apps out there but they take up half the screen!
All I need is to be able to switch my input from my regular keyboard to a directional one so I can turn the pages in my old scripture reader. A few arrow buttons across the bottom that don't take up a ton of real estate is what I'm looking for.
I'll be using this on my HD2 and especially on my husbands HTC T3333, both running WM6.5.
I think I liked the Windows mobile version better. It was easier to navigate back and forth and make quick jumps across screens. I've tried a custom launcher but it wasn't that great. Anyone got any suggestions?
pinch the screen.
If you mean between the home screens, hit home twice to see all the screens at once, then tap the one you want.
If you mean switching back and forth between apps, hold down the home button, and a small window will pop-up showing recently used apps, and tap the one you want.
Sometimes I miss WM Sense but you have to realize is that while Android Sense has the same name, it's a different product. Sense on WM is a Today screen plugin. It is one piece of software that has lots of different functions so there is seamless switching between them by sliding the slider to different pages. But with Android, there are (in this case) seven different home screens to be filled with apps, widgets, etc. HTC created widgets that often resemble WM Sense pages such as the flip clock, music player, bookmarks, etc. They're fundamentally different due to they environments in which they're used, due to different operating systems.
ya i liked being able to switch pages with just a flick or press of a thumb. A pinch requires two hands and double pressing the home button requires 3 button presses. Maybe if there were a few shortcuts to the different homescreens at the bottom, that would make switching screens alot easier. Just nit-picking but if there is something out there that makes that easier, that would be great