Any way to install stuff onto the system partition? - Flipside General

So... since i have cleared tons of bloat and stuff i don't use... i have like 20 meg free in the system 'partition'
I was wondering if anyone knew how to install stuff there... maybe titanium backup... or link2sd... or something important like that?
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Yes, actually. I'm sure there are a variety of ways to access it, such as Google's own ADB shell and other file browsers and whatnot, but I use the app Root Explorer to move apps.
Keep in mind things in the system partition are open pretty much all the time, but it's good for large apps that are integrated or you use often, like Facebook For Android or Swype. While you're in there, it's a good idea to delete apps you KNOW you never use and don't want, so they aren't always running in the background and can leave RAM for the stuff you want to be doing. Mind you, you can totally screw up your phone deleting the wrong system apps.

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App re-downloader script/program

I know I could use a program to back up my applications... but I am really against that kind of thing.
Every time I flash, which has become very often lately, I spend quite a bit of time getting the applications I really like from the market. I don't mind the download/install time, I just wonder if there would be some way to script this action so I could create a list of links or something to the applications, then just wait 10mins or so for them all to be downloaded and installed.
AndrewZorn said:
I know I could use a program to back up my applications... but I am really against that kind of thing.
Every time I flash, which has become very often lately, I spend quite a bit of time getting the applications I really like from the market. I don't mind the download/install time, I just wonder if there would be some way to script this action so I could create a list of links or something to the applications, then just wait 10mins or so for them all to be downloaded and installed.
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AppBrain market is what I use... it'll save a list of your applications then it will chain link it through the Market when you need to A) reinstall or B) update.
This looks like what I need, thanks.
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I know I could use a program to back up my applications... but I am really against that kind of thing.
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Your against backups?
I believe in backing up things like contacts, only if they are stored in a very pure form free of errors... like how Android currently implements this with Gmail, it is great. I hated even getting the pim.vol file in Windows Mobile days, I know that within that file is tons of markup garbage, version-specific information, cached information, and even problems.
I do not like backing up programs at all. When I reformat a Windows install, it makes sense to not bring old programs over... they should be clean-installed from the latest version. I have translated this thinking over to my phone. The only benefit of a backup is saving time, eventually a problem will come of it I think.
So on my phone, I back up nothing. I flash the phone, it grabs the contacts and calendar fresh from Gmail, and then I reinstall all applications. I never question the cleanliness of it.
AndrewZorn said:
I believe in backing up things like contacts, only if they are stored in a very pure form free of errors... like how Android currently implements this with Gmail, it is great. I hated even getting the pim.vol file in Windows Mobile days, I know that within that file is tons of markup garbage, version-specific information, cached information, and even problems.
I do not like backing up programs at all. When I reformat a Windows install, it makes sense to not bring old programs over... they should be clean-installed from the latest version. I have translated this thinking over to my phone. The only benefit of a backup is saving time, eventually a problem will come of it I think.
So on my phone, I back up nothing. I flash the phone, it grabs the contacts and calendar fresh from Gmail, and then I reinstall all applications. I never question the cleanliness of it.
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I do the same exact thing... I always prefer installing the app from the market instead of from a backup.
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[Q] removing app content from SD on uninstall

So I've been searching and searching ... but haven't found anything regarding this.
I've got a considerable amount of content on the SD card ... let's call these "shared pictures" ... storing these on the device memory is a real douchy move because it'll take up a lot of space that the user would want for their apps.
This data is currently stored on the SDCard, but here's the problem: What do I do with this data when the app gets uninstalled?
None of it is protected and it doesn't really matter if it's left on the SD, but why leave clutter behind?
I've been searching for either:
- an uninstall hook: Andy tells me when my app is being uninstalled and I delete my junk
- I register my folder with Andy and when Andy is uninstalling my app, it also deletes the folder.
Is there a standard way to accomplish this on Android?
Thanks.
I am not sure if I understand what you are trying to do. I assume the following:
You have an installed application with it's data in your phone.
You uninstall the app.
Then you are reinstall it and you want your data back.
If this is the situation then you can see this and with little further research you will accomplish it!
Edit: I was incorrect, it depends on the SDK/API level and where you store the data.
See SimonVT's link below
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I assume you are NOT refering to the App2SD feature. I haven't found anything that deletes the cached files off the SD card when an app is uninstalled (or even prompts you to for that matter).
But, I know what you mean. I had tried a couple podcast apps and they left HUGE files on my SD without asking me if I wanted to remove them.
I found out because they kept popping up in my Gallery app.
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To clear things up, I'm writing an app and am mainly wondering if there's a way to know when my app is being uninstalled so I can clean up my app's files.
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Friendly "rooter" advice

This is for people that are ADB shy and/or "low" level rooters:
For folks using Titanium, rather than uninstall most apps, it is probaby best to Freeze them, since this provides the same function, but an easier backtrack if any issues. You could uninstall an app, but then you need to make sure you back it up. "Freezing" is a more efficient process. Apps like Need For Speed and Sparta can be uninstalled, since will not hurt anything and will save about 1gb of total space- especially nice to zap those apps, since Honeycomb has issues with installing apps with less than a 1gb of free space in the internal storage (or is this a exclusive problem for A500)?
As far as using Rootexplorer or messing with root-only files in general, best to not do this at all until there is a clockwork/nandroid option.
I did a freeze to most of the apps that I do not use on a regular and that I'm able to do w/out any problems. I just froze those game apps as I just wanted to wait until we could get recovery working. This will hold me over until that time comes.
I really need to learn ADB though.

Best way to migrate

I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
johnnyutah22 said:
Thanks. Forgot that I would have to root new sammy for titanium.
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Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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remf4i said:
Just get app backup and app installer from the market they are free
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From their page in app store: *** Notice: App Backup cannot backup data or settings of apps for you, but it only backup the apk files.
caveman999 said:
Titanium Backup will work from phone to phone. Just remember that you will have to root the SGS3 before you can use it. Also, make sure that if you use the batch restore function not to restore system apps and data and this can mess up things on the new phone. Just restore user apps and data.
Hope this helps.
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Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
ewingr said:
Doesn't TIBU require root? I'm anxious to be able to use TIBU, but don't want to root or mod phone until I am sure there there is a way to get back to stock, including erasing ROM change count.
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Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
caveman999 said:
Yeah, I said it requires root...
As of right now, I am not aware of any better way to migrate data between phones other than Titanium. I just hope that this will be rooted as quickly as the international version was.
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Doh! Sorry. Been reading so much, I"m reverted to skimming too fast.
I too am anxious to get it all going. I suspect it will be fast. But in the meantime, we suffer w/o data updates it would seem.
The price of being on the got to have list early I guess
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
I believe Titanium backs up to your sd card. You install from market on new phone, then place the backup file from Titanium on your sd card to new phone and restore.
agafed said:
Can someone explain me a little bit more? I'm a noob for this stuff...
So I have Titanium on my old Galaxy, I make a backup. Then I root my S3. Then what? I install from Play Store the Titanium app on my S3? Or I have to install the Titanium that was on my old Galaxy?
Thanks for your patience...
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First, your GS3 will need to be rooted. (I don't know if TIBU will even install or run if not).
You can install it from the Market, not needed from your old device so that TIBU can restore from them. But, you need the data files that were backed up on your old device.
While TIBU backs up to yoru SD card, you need to get those files over to your new device. Several ways that can happen:
Files put on Google Drive, or DropBox, then moved to new device.
Set your backup directory to an external SD instead of internal SD. That is what I do.
Once you have the files from your old device you can restore to the S3.
I'm assuming your old device is not ICS. So you will NOT want to do system restore.
I've read that people occasionally have issues restoring from TIBU. Just to be safest as possible, I will likely install all my apps from Market, and try to restore the data from Tibu.
That being said though, I won't be doing that until I can root, and I don't plan to root until I'm sure I can get everything back to stock.
Thanks a lot to both of you for answering me. I think I got it now. I'm coming from Skyrocket with GB and I'm planning to get the S3 in about august... so probably the rooting won't be a problem for then.
Thanks again...
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I'm going to be coming from the Motorola Atrix to the SGS3. Whats the best way to migrate my apps + data? I know I can just reload my purchased apps from the Play Store but I have a lot of 3rd party apps that were sideloaded. I have Titanium Pro but will it work going from one phone to another?
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Purchased Apps should be uninstalled prior to using the new phone. Yes, I know that you can often install paid apps on multiple devices, but that's not the intent. Then once you register the phone and it shows on the market, you can quickly just install all the apps in the list.
IF you have a Google business acct they actually have a apk that you put on the phone and it can uninstall and unregister a (living) phone from your Play (Market) account (as well as do other tricks like full wipe and changing the pin). Normal people can only 'hide' the unused phone.
TI (which I use) requires Root to do it's stuff (or a lot of it), so without root access, I don't see it. Thankfully, I use a 3P contacts sync and wifi settings backup so I won't have that issue with my old phone being Dead.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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Well, I haven't checked my paid apps yet. I did not uninstall them from my old phone, and I have already activated the new SGS3.
It automatically downloaded and installed my apps. (Again, haven't checked which may be missing yet).
So, all is there. On a few, I may be able to export data, on others, I'm not so sure I"ll succeed getting data there until I get root for TIBU.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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You might not be so lucky with all your paid apps. Some, like gameloft, are picky about making sure to check with the license server that only one copy of their game is active on a device at a time.
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I just installed most of my pay apps, some I've started using on my TP instead. I was surprised that SWIFTKEYE X didn't charge me, but I was an original beta tester for them, I didn't like the default Swype keyboard, the predictions were so off, and the Swiftkey does predictions based on my posts, emails, etc.
I had been hopping to restore my many network wifi stuff, but the program that does that isn't compatible with ICS...

[Q] Question about File Cluttering, Bloatware, Security and Updating Apps.

Well, I was streaming the net about the flaws windows-os, ios and compared it to chrome-os and android-os and why we use it.
Its customizable and almost every content we have on android/ nexus 7 can be gotten from the net or the play store.
windows have a lot of bloatware, the older the computer is the slower it gets also because of file cluttering from the prievious leftover files used from other software, i was told ios didnt have that problem. I was just wondering about a few things about android and chrome-os.
If chrome-os or android os have to deal with the same problem that i had with my previous desktops.
here are my questions.
1. Does Chrome-os/ Android-Os keep left over files from uninstalled apps?
I had that problem remedied on windows with Revo uninstaller although i did sometimes messed up with the drivers.
Does restore factory settings delete all those things? (for confirmation)
*For people who rooted their N7, how much bloat ware did you deleted? 32gb N7 has 27gb free space out of the box, that makes 5gb less storage from the start.
2. i have a habit of connecting my nexus 7 to my desktop and i sometimes wonder about viruses. i have antivirus installed and i am still skeptical if it even do anything worthwhile. Anyone here can tell if those apps (ex. avast) ever worked?
3. Is there any disadvantage on using apps that update frequently (file cluttering: question 1), as most of my apps needs frequent updates.
or does updating files also delete some parts from it, to consume less space?
4. Would anyone really recommend chrome-os (chrome book) vs ios, windows?
You really don't need to worry about any of that!
1. Things are removed from the /data partition but apps sometimes leave things on the sd card (you can see those folders like normal). A factory reset wipes data but not the things on your sd. It is normal to have less than the advertised storage, plus some is dedicated to certain things.
2. I don't worry about antivirus on Android. If anything, it wastes resources and creates a false sense of security. The best antivirus is common sense when surfing the web and downloading apps.
3. There's nothing to worry about with app updates. The app only gets bigger if the update makes it bigger.
4. Are you comparing desktop OSes? I think you mean OSx then. It's highly dependant on what your needs/wants are.
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You really don't need to worry about any of that!
1. Things are removed from the /data partition but apps sometimes leave things on the sd card (you can see those folders like normal). A factory reset wipes data but not the things on your sd. It is normal to have less than the advertised storage, plus some is dedicated to certain things.
2. I don't worry about antivirus on Android. If anything, it wastes resources and creates a false sense of security. The best antivirus is common sense when surfing the web and downloading apps.
3. There's nothing to worry about with app updates. The app only gets bigger if the update makes it bigger.
4. Are you comparing desktop OSes? I think you mean OSx then. It's highly dependant on what your needs/wants are.
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I can be a little adventurous on experimenting on my n7, so I do take risks on downloads at times
on OS, I'm not sure but I was thinking of getting a chrome book when then time comes. I was comparing Is based on my experience. I'm used to using Windows on desktop and laptop, I like the feel of android so I won't mind using chromebook if the concept is the same.
thanks!

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