These apps allow you to remotely access your phone from a web browser. However, they all run a web server on the phone, and I cannot connect to any of the over 3g (Verizon).
LazyDroid Web Desktop
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I want to move the web server off phone, and (hopefully) onto private sites.google.com site. App Engine might be necessary, but I'm hoping this could be done solely in JS.
The hosting site would provide the UI, and interact with the phone using C2DM (the magic that powers Chrome2Phone, GMail, and installing apps from the web Market).
The UI is pretty obvious. It just needs a whiz to create HTML, Javascript, etc.
The C2DM backend is a still a bit mystifying to me... and searching for c2dm and javascript does not yield any obvious working implementations. But it seems plausible. Push a command to the phone, phone returns/uploads data to website, and UI updates.
Then there is the Android end. Well, there are the 3 projects above, Tasker for a quasi-hackish approach, and RPC (promising, but it seems like a WIP).
Thoughts? Volunteers? Geniuses?
Ooo... 2 birds with one stone!
This would also kill 2 birds with one stone.
No more typing in dynamic IP addresses! You get to use DNS to handle the connections. Bookmark your site in your desktop browser (it is always the same!). And set a preference in the Android app.
On lazydroid i've in planning some kind of trick that will let you connect behind firewall ... similar to a vpn...
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On lazydroid i've in planning some kind of trick that will let you connect behind firewall ... similar to a vpn...
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I tried it again last week, and it is still unsuccessful. Webkey is currently the only application that I can successfully use to reach my phone.
Now, I could be wrong, but I believe all of these apps run a web server on the phone. I get a lovely, private 10.x.x.x IP address, which I can't reverse the route to. I have tried and failed to get DynDNS to work.
I have been looking into a solution since my original post. I have not had any time to do code squat, but I have loosely figured out all of the parts.
The big architectural difference I have been seeking is removing the server from the phone. I am not an Android expert, but I don't believe it even requires a running service. (Thank you, C2DM.)
With the app-webservice separation, you can work a "protocol" that reduces the overall bandwidth used... and thus improve battery life. Put all the "hard work" on a webserver, and (things get fuzzy here) possibly push it off onto the client browser (JS).
C2DM Browser Links
I could probably make something like WebKey but with C2DM and some more features. If you want you can give suggestions and I'll start making on saturday (after my exams). It would probably be possible in javascript for the actual sending from server and php just for logging in to your google account. The phone would just be registered on the server and no services (just as you wanted )
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I could probably make something like WebKey but with C2DM and some more features. If you want you can give suggestions and I'll start making on saturday (after my exams). It would probably be possible in javascript for the actual sending from server and php just for logging in to your google account. The phone would just be registered on the server and no services (just as you wanted )
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I am not sure "more features" is necessarily the direction I'm headed. I am focused on making a "seamless" experience (i.e. less separation of phone and computer).
I was headed to App Engine (Python bias + easy Google integration). I have a project created. I haven't pulled together the various examples to make the core, but it seems <naive>simple</naive>. Stir in some templates, CSS, a sprinkling of JS, and voila!
The big "tricky" part that I can't convert from f***ing magic to a clear approach is the data link in the server. I want to avoid any storage to a Google disk, or otherwise, even temporarily. No stored data = easy privacy policy.
nebkat, if you're really chomping at the bit to code, here's my Android client concept.
- C2DM is a wake-up call. (cheat an borrow ChromeToPhone's ID to begin with)
- Connect to web server, send "I'm here," and wait for further instructions (Channels API/Comet/AJAX/.........)
- make the command set extensible
- each command is blockable in the client. (Permission control is set on the phone, not remotely.)
- After N minutes of no activity, send a "good bye," disconnect from the server, and fade into the background.
Don't worry, I'm very experienced with the server side stuff and I know exactly what you want. The only information stored on the sever side would be google account, the device c2dm registration id and some logging features just for statistics. A password could be set on the phone that would be sha512 hashed on the ajax request and would be sent to the phone. Even if a hacker found the hash, it would be useless without being logged in to the persons google account or knowing the server side auth token.
For now i'll just make the reciever, processor and command output and later on the extra security and ui stuff. It will work exactly the same way as Chrome2Phone except it will have server side php and the different commands. The connection from pc to phone will be something like this.
user command -> ajax request -> php c2dm request -> phone
phone -> php server http request -> controller page status
BTW I'm saving up for a Nexus S, how much would people pay for this type of app? There would definitely be a free version, but I just need to get the Nexus S because I have a Galaxy Spica now and it isn't the best for app development. I'm new to how stuff at xda works, would a donate version get me enoguh for the Nexus?
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Don't worry, ... <snip> ... auth token.
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Alrighty then. I'm feeling like I can stop contemplating implementing this.
BTW I'm saving up for a Nexus S, how much would people pay for this type of app? There would definitely be a free version, but I just need to get the Nexus S because I have a Galaxy Spica now and it isn't the best for app development. I'm new to how stuff at xda works, would a donate version get me enoguh for the Nexus?
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Since I was learning the ins and outs of App Engine, I read their quota rules and realized if this were popular it would require funding. I don't know where you are going to your web server, but I assume you'll have to pay someone to keep it running. But I had thought about $$$ already.
"Give away the razor, and sell them the blades."
Make the app free, no feature restrictions.
You get your money through various "membership" levels on the server. (See the account levels at fastmail.fm for an example.) So, you can use the app for free, but you only get, say, 2-3 MB of traffic per day, and only X sessions per day. Need more? See the pricing chart.
user command -> ajax request -> php c2dm request -> phone
phone -> php server http request -> controller page status
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user command -> php server http request -> phone
phone -> php server http request -> controller page status
user command -> php server http request -> phone
lather, rinse, repeat.
C2DM is not deterministic, and acts up in low signal conditions. So, I made a decision to only use C2DM to initiate a session. Once both ends are connected to the server, everything goes over HTTP.
Oh.... and not that we need another Lookout/Phone Finder, but a shared-secret SMS code for the case where "they" have shut down the data connection.
I have my own server nebkat.com and there is nothing on it anyway.
The only other way to make "push" requests to the phone is with WebSockets. It would probably be better than c2dm because we have full control over what gets sent (google limits some requests). The advantage of WebSockets is that they send no header information which means that we could send our messages in 20 to 30 bytes.
I'll look into more detail on friday.
With web sockets won't you need to ensure the phone has a routable, external IP address? I know, for one, t-mobile does not expose an external IP address for their phones. Unless, of course, if the phone is connected over WiFi. C2DM works great for me (I have used a couple of apps with it and it is really useful).
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With web sockets won't you need to ensure the phone has a routable, external IP address? I know, for one, t-mobile does not expose an external IP address for their phones. Unless, of course, if the phone is connected over WiFi. C2DM works great for me (I have used a couple of apps with it and it is really useful).
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No, WS is server initiated and the ip address' shouldn't make a difference.
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With web sockets won't you need to ensure the phone has a routable, external IP address? I know, for one, t-mobile does not expose an external IP address for their phones. Unless, of course, if the phone is connected over WiFi. C2DM works great for me (I have used a couple of apps with it and it is really useful).
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You need an valid external IP address if you are attempting to initiate contact with your phone, which is why the 4-5 apps I've mentioned do not work on carriers like t-mo and verizon.
But the phone can establish a connection, and the carrier NATs (or whatever) will handle the routing for outgoing and incoming data.
I think the right questions are: Will Verizon/T-Mo allow the ports and protocol for WebSockets? Do Android and desktop browsers implement the draft API correctly and consistently?
I like C2DM. I works well when you have a good connection. But there are 3 issues with it.
1) The message size limit is 1024 bytes. Not ideal for file transfers.
2) In a poor signal areas, since the service retries sending messages, you will get delayed and/or duplicate messages. I work in a large "concrete" building, so I get this behavior often enough that I don't want to rely on it.
3) I believe there is a limit on the number of messages you can send. So, hunting around the filesystem could hit this limit (but unlikely in reality... I hope.)
It would be interesting to see exactly how those apps handle all of the data. Do they only use C2DM, or do they hand over to another protocol?
Ok my exams are over and I am starting with it. I'll give updates on this thread
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I've been running a project on mobile computing at work which obviously means that I get loads of cool toys to play with.
So today I connected my XDA II to a server (via D-Link router) running MS Exchange and MS Sharepoint.
Limited success with Sharepoint, it renders ok but you lose a fair bit of functionality which must be down to advanced IE features not present in the mobile version.
Exchange Web Access worked like a dream though (albeit, a dream where the browser window is too small and the wrong form factor!)
However I was doing 3 things at once and ticked "remember password" when initially logging on to the server and the damned thing just bypassed authentication from then on meaning I couldn't try different accounts.
So to the "does anyone know" bit, Firstly anyone have any ideas about clearing the "remember passwords" nightmare, tried stopping explorer, clearing cache and cookies and even a soft reset with no joy.
The main idea of the project is to give our key mobile workers (mainly our Directors) access to this technology, now I would never suggest that Directors are thick (and some of ours are anything but) however the process for selecting and connecting to networks seems bloody fiddly at best, anyone know of any decent software that makes this a bit more intuitive?
Gonna try and make time to try my BTOpenzone account out with the XDA II tomorrow, any thoughts?
For the auto authenticate part, why not just change your account password on your exchange server, youll get a refused connection and asked for password and username again.
I've tried owa on the xda2 and found it very unwield, so I use imap into pocket outlook instead check it just like you would pop3, infact you could use pop3 aswell / instead.
Forgot to mention, have you had a play with remote admin using the xda yet? I'm looking for a better way than the admin website (same problem as owa)
Good idea on the password, owa is being as we have an existing (large) corporate Exchange set up and want a relatively seamless mobile experience. When using notebooks etc away from the office we'll be using OWA so using it on the Xda's too makes it easier for our high powered thinkers!
Might just have to get some iPaq 4150's for the landscape mode while waiting for Xda III!
Not touched remote admin and probably not likely to, the final system will likely be installed in a fully supported datacentre.
Sounds like a fun setup, love to get my hands on a rig like that (probably bring the whole system down!!! LOL).
I think that owa uses editable html pages, so you could maybe create a more pocket pc friendly layout, I would think that you could redirect clients by browser type so that pc users got the standard layout, and xda's got the modified one.
I've found that if you keep the possible number of connection options down the auto select works pretty well.
I am using mail2web free service to have my mail pushed to my WM5 device, but I don't like the idea of forwarding my private email to a company I don't know and I don't trust.
Normally I have my email at a home mail server running linux, and I was wondering if there's any open/free solution compatible with directpush technology to replace the need for an exchange 2003 server.
If it does not exist (i have been searching and couldn't find it), what is preventing someone of writing a free replacement? patent issues? authentication issues? I haven't sniffed the protocol yet, but I think it's impossible that no one has thought about it before... wouldn't you like to have your home imap server pushing your inbox to your PocketPC phone? If the protocol is not very obscure it should be easy to write a daemon that does it...
any thoughts or experiences?
Kerio Mail Server has the push compatibility.
Not free though, but it is an alternative to Exchange.
Their latest beta supports it. I reported a bug to them re: contacts getting corrupted but they say they fixed that in the latest build.
Can't retest now since that server is at another site I won't be visiting for a while.
Hmm the directpush "protocol" is pretty trivial it shouldn't be impossible to implement an open alternative.
I installed the latest Kerio MailServer yesterday. It works great!
Especially nice is that it runs on XP as well as Linux. Too bad about the price!
pof, have you had the chance to sniff the protocol?
not yet ivorh, been too busy with many other things, but this is still on the queue
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Heh, got bored so I setup an exchange account and sniffed the packets.
I'll go through them and post some details when I get a chance.
great ivorh!
Can you attach a capture in pcap format?
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Pof,
Hmm, ok a bit more thinking and digging and I'm not sure implementing an open alternative directly is that useful. Let me explain why:
The direct push only works with the outlook exchange active sync. When the device gets a "direct push" byte, it triggers a sync with exchange - the functionality is tightly bound together, and as far as I can tell you cant dip in and get it to do something else. So to get it working you would need a server providing the exchange http interface. This wouldn't be impossible but would need a lot of effort for little benefit.
I took a look at the open-exchange but that doesn't seem like an ideal solution since it would require a completely different server installed rather than IMAP or POP and as far as I can tell the Outlook connector isn't one of the open-source components anyway.
Now what I'm currently thinking would be a neat workaround would be to implement a custom "direct-push" to basically do exactly the same, have a client app on the device open an http connection to a server running, er, "OpenPush" if you like... use exactly the same technique of a keep-alive connection and occasional heartbeats, but on a message notification on the client get the client to trigger an IMAP pull.
Now this is where I need some advice.... I haven't done any Windows Mobile development yet, so can anyone tell me what sort of API is available to the messaging app? Can you/how do you trigger a mail pull? (oh someone please tell me it's not the same horrible old MAPI interface??).
PS I've just been capturing the data using a simple http proxy actually, I'll make some samples and upload them with descriptions.
Cheers,
Ivor.
http://www.ivor.it
Hi pof,
try funambol. It was formerly known as Sync4j. I once found it when I searched a complete sync solution that I could implement in the mailserver of my company. We are using kolab so I only tried the old Sync4j cause there is a kolab connector available for v2.3.
v3.0 implements (real) Push-Mail. Microsoft Active Push works with a http connection that is opened by the client. Funambol Push-Mail connects to a port the client opens. I didn't want to test any further cause I'm using a Wapflat and thus only get an internal IP and have to use a proxy.
http://www.funambol.com/opensource/
Perhaps this is what you are searching for
What I forgot to say: For funambol you install a java program on your phone wich will insert the received mails in your Pocket Outlook
Yay!
Pof,
Ha! Ok I've whipped up a version 0.0.0 of OpenPush. and it works rather nicely!
Basically it consists of two parts one is an app that runs on the mobile and operates in the same manner as DirectPush. It opens up a socket connection to the server and waits for a notification byte. If it recieves a byte it kicks off a mail retrieval.
The other is a daemon that runs on the server and watches for a change in the users mailbox if it changes (i.e. a mail has arrived) then it pops a byte down the socket.
It just needs finishing now...
Currently the daemon is just an app that listens on a dedicated socket. I plan on turning it into a mod_perl module and using http keep-alive in the same fashion as directpush.
Regards,
Ivor
ivorh, that sounds cool!!
I had a look at funambol but seems too 'bloated' for my needs, I think your OpenPush will be more tight to what I was looking for, so if you want a beta tester just send a link to it
Is there any specific server configuration? I am running a Gentoo server with courier-imap, sendmail and apache2.
Any chance you could extend the daemon so other programs can tie into your new-item notification? It would be cool to write a program that can keep files synchronized over-the-air with a desktop machine using push sychronization.
Pof,
Yeah it's just a prototype at the moment. So I need to write it properly next. At the moment the requirements are simply "perl". It's independent of mail system, it simply monitors a directory/file you give it for changes.
I'm going to write it to be a mod_perl module for various reasons, so the requirements will be just apache and mod_perl.
I'll hack some more tonight and try and get a 0.0.1 ready.
aatreya,
Well I'll keep it simple for now and just doing one job well.
Sound interesting to me.
I am new to this. Pardon me for some questions.
Do I need to buy a server at home?
This server can be any OS?
I am really happy to see some people trying to do just about the same I intended to. Today I started experimenting with Open-Xchange. I also have a Gentoo server that provides an ebuild for Open-Xchange, but after a bit of browsing it just seems like the thing MS Exchange and OX have in common is the similarity of their names. So installing OX and doing all the Exchange stuff with it does not seem to be an option.
So I looked into Funambol - sort of again. About a year ago I already tried to get Sync4J running to sync my SyncML phone. I did not succeed, but that just makes me eager to try it harder this time.
I also have to use a Proxy-Server for my GPRS connection but I want to have it working via WLAN, too, hence without proxy and the whole tunneling disco.
PS: Ivor, I am glad to meet You once again. When our roads crossed the last time, You just figured out how to get the CLE266 MPEG2 stuff working, respect!
A very rough pre-alpha version should be ready this weekend. I can only apologise in advance for the quality of my WM5 app!
But it's "working for me".
CWKJ,
At the moment the "server" is a simply perl app that watches for changes to a directory or file so its pretty portable. I run it on linux since that's what my mailserver is on.
As for needing a server at home... well its entirely up to you, really you want the server running wherever your mail is retrieved from.
If the app/system gets a bit more polished and advanced you might even find independent ISP's willing to add it as a service.
rabinath,
Heh! Small world.
I'd also like to be considered for Beta testing when available,
I run Ubuntu 5.10 Server at home, hosting 5 domains for myself, and would Love to not have to forward them through mail2web anymore as I don't like to reply because it will go through Mail2Web. I know I can create a separate "account" in Pocket Outlook but you can only have 5. I need more than that...
with direct push over the o2 wap proxy all https conections are closed after 2 min. this is becausse all 2 minutes a new sync is needed. This eats much battery. So why is it nnot possible to mak e a ppc client that just sends the current ip adsress to the client on the server. and the server just push the email to the known ip adress. The client on ppc just has to send a new ip in case it changes. this wouldt be much better for battery life.
Thats the reason Exchange-Activesync works the way that it does. The server sends out a text message that is handled at the system level on the PPC, and this is basically an instruction to sync with the server. No unneeded traffic just to check if there is anything new.
Most Celllar service providers are using NAT technology so reporting your IP address to a server and telling it to make a connection to that IP, would just be telling the server to connect to the "gateway" back into the Cellular network. A text message sent to what is called the "SMTP Gateway" for each service provider will get to the phone no matter if the phones IP changes.
I know this is a strange request, but I've needed this feature more than once.
I have been using WaveSecure for a while and it is fantastic, and has located my phone more than once (did I leave my phone at work or is it out in the car???) as well as retreiving SMSes when needed if I didnt have the phone, but the features are pretty much limited to that.
However, would it be possible to have remote desktop capabilities on the phone itself? Having the phone as the server and the desktop as the viewing client?
I understand the challenges, especially considering the fact that the IP addresses are dynamic. However that shouldnt be a problem.
I know leaving the server open all the time listening could cause a battery drain issue so sending a simple SMS command to open the program and begin listening as well as reply or e-mail the current IP address would fix this problem. In my experience the phone will keep the same IP address for a good few minutes so if a SMS command could wake up the data connection, and then somehow reply with the phone's current IP address that would be fantastic. If not would it be possible to port a dynamic DNS type of application to run on the phone similar to what you'd run on a PC if you have a dynamic IP address.
Traffic also shouldn't be a problem as my 3G connection on my phone uploads faster than my road runner turbo! I can regularly upload at 600-700kbps compared to my road runner's 512kbps. Plus you're only having to transmit 320x480 pixels at say 256 colors.
I know there were programs like this for win mo but how hard would it be for android?
This is also what I'm looking for. Screencast is cool, but I would love some remote android goodness. Kinda like Mymobiler and SOTI Pocket Controller.
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This is also what I'm looking for. Screencast is cool, but I would love some remote android goodness. Kinda like Mymobiler and SOTI Pocket Controller.
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Yeah, I used MyMobiler on my touch pro but that was only via USB (atleast at the time I used it)
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http://www.toremote.com/ i think you might want to look at this maybe its what your looking for. good luck
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http://www.toremote.com/ i think you might want to look at this maybe its what your looking for. good luck
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He's looking for it the other way around, at least if I am reading it correctly.
While I don't know of any pre-existing solutions, I can envision exiting tools that would collectively allow you to do what you want, there would just need to be some sort of wrapper / script that could pull it all together from different tools.
For example, PicMe, the utility used typically for screen shots, has a 'live' option to view/control your phone from your computer's web browser, and you connect to it over WiFi and/or the Mobile Network.
So, if there was a way to send a command to your phone to email you its current Sprint IP address, then automatically fire up PicMe (which can be hidden), you could then access the phone on the PicMe port (8082), to view the screen, see what is going on, or control the phone, etc.
What I don't know, and I haven't looked, is if there is any sort of scripting engine / macro tools that could allow you to utilize the existing tools to automate the various tasks. Would be cool though.
Wow, PicMe is awesome!!! However I can't figure out how to control it. I goto the live view and it does nothing.
Hmm, never mind. Re-booted and it worked fine! THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME!!!
Now, the only thing I'd really need is to write a simple application that will intercept a SMS (similiar to mobile defense or wave secure) that will e-mail as well as reply via SMS my current IP address, then launch the picme application. I say e-mail because if you don't have access to -a- phone, you can SMS via sprint.com and then check e-mail for the ip address.
THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!
Thank you sooo much!
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Hmm, never mind. Re-booted and it worked fine! THAT'S FREAKING AWESOME!!!
Now, the only thing I'd really need is to write a simple application that will intercept a SMS (similiar to mobile defense or wave secure) that will e-mail as well as reply via SMS my current IP address, then launch the picme application. I say e-mail because if you don't have access to -a- phone, you can SMS via sprint.com and then check e-mail for the ip address.
THIS IS FANTASTIC!!!
Thank you sooo much!
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Keep us updated please. Would love to have this figured out
let me know when you figure something out
If you haven't already finished the SMS intercept idea, I think the best way would be to incorporate it as some type of "firewall"... like those apps in the market. Just put some extremely obscure message into the SMS, something like "adsf;lkasdf jaeo8taupwetap0", and have the program only filter that. Just make sure the message is obscure, you don't want anyone's SMS turning it on/off!
Well, this may take some time.
I haven't studied the SDK for android yet, and its been a while since I've fiddled with java... soooo.... I dunno if this is even in my scope.
hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
Do u mean that you are able to surf the internet but some website, like Facebook for example , are blocked?
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Do u mean that you are able to surf the internet but some website, like Facebook for example , are blocked?
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yes exactly, often they have keywords that they block as well, (such as game, kill, black ops, etc). maybe a proxy would work? we used to have a couple good ones but they would eventually block it.
johnston9234 said:
yes exactly, often they have keywords that they block as well, (such as game, kill, black ops, etc). maybe a proxy would work? we used to have a couple good ones but they would eventually block it.
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yes, a free proxy can be a solution in most cases, here try some in this list first:
http://www.publicproxyservers.com/proxy/list1.html
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hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
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To do this would require some form of exe to use a proxy via a specially setup browser, or admin rights to set the system proxy.
You will find that your IT admins will block the proxies you use (I have to block proxies at my work network when we detect them).
If implemented properly (any good professional IT admin should be able to do it right), you will struggle to tunnel out using most systems.
You can't ssh forward if they block non-standard ports, or filter protocols. You can't use SOCKS proxies if they do the same. You can't use web proxies if they use smart URL filtering.
You can try web proxies, but it's an uphill battle. If you find a proxy that works, don't tell your friends, as that usage across multiple accounts flags the URL in some security systems (my users alert me to the latest proxy sites unwittingly )
Finally, you do realise you are probably breaking the acceptable use agreement? Isn't it better to do facebook etc out of school hours? Or use your phone? If you get good at evading, it is easy to remove internet access altogether from an account in most systems. Good luck in tunnelling out when you have zero internet access as your account is null routed
Summary? Try proxies, don't hold your breath, and do you really need to use facebook etc in school? Oh, and for goodness sake, don't run exes on school PCs... If they've not set them up right, you could infect the machines. They prevent EXE execution on most machines for good reason...
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To do this would require some form of exe to use a proxy via a specially setup browser, or admin rights to set the system proxy.
You will find that your IT admins will block the proxies you use (I have to block proxies at my work network when we detect them).
If implemented properly (any good professional IT admin should be able to do it right), you will struggle to tunnel out using most systems.
You can't ssh forward if they block non-standard ports, or filter protocols. You can't use SOCKS proxies if they do the same. You can't use web proxies if they use smart URL filtering.
You can try web proxies, but it's an uphill battle. If you find a proxy that works, don't tell your friends, as that usage across multiple accounts flags the URL in some security systems (my users alert me to the latest proxy sites unwittingly )
Finally, you do realise you are probably breaking the acceptable use agreement? Isn't it better to do facebook etc out of school hours? Or use your phone? If you get good at evading, it is easy to remove internet access altogether from an account in most systems. Good luck in tunnelling out when you have zero internet access as your account is null routed
Summary? Try proxies, don't hold your breath, and do you really need to use facebook etc in school? Oh, and for goodness sake, don't run exes on school PCs... If they've not set them up right, you could infect the machines. They prevent EXE execution on most machines for good reason...
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This is a REALLY good explanation Pulser, I always liked the way you answer to the people on XDA! (specially on the Hero thread )
By the way, why an .exe file would infect a machine? Do you mean any kind of .exe? Even from a well known company, who create safe and populars software?
I used to run, without tell anyone, firefox portable in my office to bypass firewall restrictions, is that dangerous as well?
Considering you are at school, you will lack a lot of needed rights to edit certain things. I would know, I had to get around blocks on both Windows and Mac computers my freshman year.
I would advise you use the software, Your Freedom, it's free, but requires an account, you will also need to use a browser such as Firefox, and edit the settings to use the correct IP and Port as a proxy.
It also works on both Mac's and PC's. There is another software that I had used, strictly for windows PC's, but I can't recall the name of it.
Edit: I also ran the software from my flash drive..
i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
johnston9234 said:
i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
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What I did was to download firefox portable, you can google it (and if you want you can copy it to an USB drive).
If you go to firefox networking setting, you can try to change the options in advanced with "no proxy" or as wisefire said just write an IP proxy address with the correct port, you should be able to visit any website.
At least this was working flawlessy for me..
yukinok25 said:
This is a REALLY good explanation Pulser, I always liked the way you answer to the people on XDA! (specially on the Hero thread )
By the way, why an .exe file would infect a machine? Do you mean any kind of .exe? Even from a well known company, who create safe and populars software?
I used to run, without tell anyone, firefox portable in my office to bypass firewall restrictions, is that dangerous as well?
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Only a malicious exe would cause trouble...
But on a shared school network, who knows what the user before you used...
That's why I use disk freezing software on systems I run, and a forced reboot between logins, to give you a clean environment.
But while employees run portable firefox, what if they were to use it on another pc, and it had a virus, which infected the exe?
TBH, flash drives shouldn't be used in work environments, that were used outwith that environment... But that's not realistic in a school.
johnston9234 said:
i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
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Come on... Surely you ain't gonna abuse that privilege? You got it because you were trusted, not to work round the restrictions that are in your acceptable use policy...
yukinok25 said:
What I did was to download firefox portable, you can google it (and if you want you can copy it to an USB drive).
If you go to firefox networking setting, you can try to change the options in advanced with "no proxy" or as wisefire said just write an IP proxy address with the correct port, you should be able to visit any website.
At least this was working flawlessy for me..
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That would work unless they filter out proxy traffic (you can often detect SOCKS proxies and other ones that are working using this method, or even block common ports like 8080)
Back in high school we used Ultrasurf and GPass. I liked GPass because it was really easy to hide from the taskbar and notification area.
pulser_g2 said:
Only a malicious exe would cause trouble...
But on a shared school network, who knows what the user before you used...
That's why I use disk freezing software on systems I run, and a forced reboot between logins, to give you a clean environment.
But while employees run portable firefox, what if they were to use it on another pc, and it had a virus, which infected the exe?
TBH, flash drives shouldn't be used in work environments, that were used outwith that environment... But that's not realistic in a school.
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haha, All of my schools have used disk freezing software. I thought about putting it on my parent's computer so I don't have to work on it anymore.
Eventhough I generally don't work on it anymore and just have them call someone to work on it for them. hahah.
buttes said:
Back in high school we used Ultrasurf and GPass. I liked GPass because it was really easy to hide from the taskbar and notification area.
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Back in my days in high school we just got the many different IT and Librarian passwords/usernames and some teacher's passwords aswell. Then we'd log in to them and download Kazaa (yeah, it was that long ago lol), and downloaded like a gig or two of old NES, SNES, SEGA, Etc roms and started passing them around to everyone. haha.
It got so bad that the school threatened expulsion for everyone that had the games on their user accounts because it was overloading their network and storage space.
For a while they were just searching for the rom's extensions and you could just go and change them to a .txt and then change them back when you wanted to play them, but then they finally realized that the gig of space the roms took up were about 4 times the size of the data we were allowed to have and they could just sort the usernames by the usage of storage space.
The teacher's ones were fun to have though... it allowed you change some grades here and there...especially with my method of madness which I will not describe here. lol
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That would work unless they filter out proxy traffic (you can often detect SOCKS proxies and other ones that are working using this method, or even block common ports like 8080)
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So, I am really interested about this topic, is there anyway to bypass a restriction if they filter out the proxy traffic?
yukinok25 said:
So, I am really interested about this topic, is there anyway to bypass a restriction if they filter out the proxy traffic?
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Hmmm... It's possible. If they use deep packet filtering it may be hard. But anything is possible...
I won't go into details, of getting round things, as it is my job to stop people getting round them, and I know a load of tricks, but look at the protocols in use in surfing - you need LDAP/AD to log into windows domain. Then you use DNS to resolve an IP (perhaps via a corporate web proxy). Then HTTP/HTTPS to access the page.
Now think what tools the domain admins might use to administer their network - RDP? SSH? Web services on high ports?
I think I've gone into enough detail for now... I can tunnel out almost any network these days, but I don't think it is sensible, wise, nor ethical to divulge this sort of thing.
pulser_g2 said:
Hmmm... It's possible. If they use deep packet filtering it may be hard. But anything is possible...
I won't go into details, of getting round things, as it is my job to stop people getting round them, and I know a load of tricks, but look at the protocols in use in surfing - you need LDAP/AD to log into windows domain. Then you use DNS to resolve an IP (perhaps via a corporate web proxy). Then HTTP/HTTPS to access the page.
Now think what tools the domain admins might use to administer their network - RDP? SSH? Web services on high ports?
I think I've gone into enough detail for now... I can tunnel out almost any network these days, but I don't think it is sensible, wise, nor ethical to divulge this sort of thing.
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True I am agree with you Pulser, thus I am really into this sort of things recently.
I am eager to learn..
Could you please recommend me a book or something (not too advanced) that would help me to understand better LDAP/AD, DNS and everything about security and networking?
I obviously wanna learn just for myself and I definitely don't want to spread or divulge in anyway bad behaviors..
johnston9234 said:
hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
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if not previously mentioned, you're looking for "Tor" which comes in both installable packages or portable exe files that can be run off flash drives and includes a custom made 'Mozilla Firefox' which comes preloaded with Tor and does not save any browsing information on your client machine, thus this program is completely anon when ran from a flash drive.
www.torproject.org and you're looking for the Stable Portable Browser Bundle
Please thanks me (click thanks) if this helped
really there is a simple way
use kon-boot and bypass admin password and change the settings
kylon said:
really there is a simple way
use kon-boot and bypass admin password and change the settings
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not if he is on a school network, he would have to physically run kon-boot on the server itself which defeats the purpose because the server would already be logged in as an admin of some kind.
-correct me if I'm misunderstanding or have missed a key post somewhere-
If you're like me, then you have a data plan with T-Mobile that includes only 2.5GB of data for tethering. After you 2.5GB is up,T-Mobile begins redirecting all of your tethered traffic to a webpage prompting you to buy more tethering data.
T-Mobile does this by reading all of the headers on every HTTP request. It analyzes each one and reads the User-Agent string. This is what tells websites how to deliver their content for you and is why you only get mobile versions of webpages on your phone and not on your laptop. So, many people got around this by spoofing the user agent with a browser plugin to make it look like your laptop was requesting the mobile version of websites (so T-Mobile would think that it's a phone requesting the data, not a tethered laptop.) However this solution only works for that specific browser. Other browsers, applications, and devices that do not support User-Agent spoofing were left without a solution. Was I really the only one trying to tether my PS3 for Netflix and gaming?
So some people turned to VPNs which basically act as a secure proxy so that T-Mobile could not read the traffic and tell what the User-Agent was. But this often costs money and/or slows down your network speed. Seeing as how people who are looking for a tether workaround are trying to not spend money, and are trying to use T-Mobile's lightning fast LTE, this isn't really a practical solution.
So after spending hours and hours looking for a solution, I came to the conclusion that there was none yet.
I deduced that the obvious solution would be to modify the packets on the fly and change the user-agent string of every HTTP request as it came to the phone before forwarding it on to T-Mobile. Luckily for us, all HTTP requests that have no User-Agent string or a string of "null/null" etc. are automatically accepted! So all that needed to be done was to strip the user-agent string of all of the outgoing HTTP requests - on the fly.
My first thought was that hopefully there was an android app that could do this.
There isn't.
And I am not capable of making one but if you find one or can make one, please tell me and I will adjust this explanation because that would make things a bit simpler. However, since we don't live in a perfect world, we have to run a program on a computer and route all traffic through that program. This wonderful little program that I came across called "Fiddler" (it won't let me post the link but it's www[dot]fiddler2[dot]com) is just what we need. It's a completely free program.
Go download and install fiddler. This program will allow us to monitor and 'fiddle' with the network traffic on the fly!
First, fire up your tethering app on your phone and connect your computer. I personally use android WiFi tether but I suppose it probably doesn't matter which one you use. Once you've connected your computer. Open up fiddler, go to "Rules," "User-Agents," and select "Custom..." A window will pop up. Leave this blank and click okay. Now, all of the network traffic from that computer with have its user-agent string modified to "User-Agent:[blank]" Test this out on any browser on your computer and you should not be redirected to the upsell page.
Now for all of your other devices! I was particularly concerned with my PS3 but any device that supports proxy use will work. That's a hell of a lot more devices than the number that support UA spoofing haha. Go to "Connection Settings" on your PS3 and select "Manual"
Go through your setup as usual and connect to your phone's wifi hotspot. When you come to the page that says "Proxy Settings" select "Use"
For the IP address go back to your computer and look at Fiddler. In the top-right corner there is an image of two computers and it says "Online" next to it. Hover over that icon and it will have an IP address listed. This is the virtual proxy that Fiddler has set up for auxillary incoming traffic on the local network. Type that IP address into the PS3's proxy settings and use port 8888 (you may have to configure your computer firewall to allow incoming traffic on that address/port)
Also, in Fiddler go to the AutoResponder tab and check the box that says "Unmatched requests passthrough." This is so that HTTP requests that come in without a User-agent already defined will just be passed on. If this box is not checked you may get frequent 404 errors.
Finish up the connection settings on the PS3 and let it fly! You can watch the traffic on Fiddler in real time!
This is my first post on XDA and this workaround is brand new as far as I can tell so there may be some kinks that need to be worked out.
Let me know if you have any questions or problems!
Respectfully,
Hunter.
TexasState said:
If you're like me, then you have a data plan with T-Mobile that includes only 2.5GB of data for tethering. After you 2.5GB is up,T-Mobile begins redirecting all of your tethered traffic to a webpage prompting you to buy more tethering data.
T-Mobile does this by reading all of the headers on every HTTP request. It analyzes each one and reads the User-Agent string. This is what tells websites how to deliver their content for you and is why you only get mobile versions of webpages on your phone and not on your laptop. So, many people got around this by spoofing the user agent with a browser plugin to make it look like your laptop was requesting the mobile version of websites (so T-Mobile would think that it's a phone requesting the data, not a tethered laptop.) However this solution only works for that specific browser. Other browsers, applications, and devices that do not support User-Agent spoofing were left without a solution. Was I really the only one trying to tether my PS3 for Netflix and gaming?
So some people turned to VPNs which basically act as a secure proxy so that T-Mobile could not read the traffic and tell what the User-Agent was. But this often costs money and/or slows down your network speed. Seeing as how people who are looking for a tether workaround are trying to not spend money, and are trying to use T-Mobile's lightning fast LTE, this isn't really a practical solution.
So after spending hours and hours looking for a solution, I came to the conclusion that there was none yet.
I deduced that the obvious solution would be to modify the packets on the fly and change the user-agent string of every HTTP request as it came to the phone before forwarding it on to T-Mobile. Luckily for us, all HTTP requests that have no User-Agent string or a string of "null/null" etc. are automatically accepted! So all that needed to be done was to strip the user-agent string of all of the outgoing HTTP requests - on the fly.
My first thought was that hopefully there was an android app that could do this.
There isn't.
And I am not capable of making one but if you find one or can make one, please tell me and I will adjust this explanation because that would make things a bit simpler. However, since we don't live in a perfect world, we have to run a program on a computer and route all traffic through that program. This wonderful little program that I came across called "Fiddler" (it won't let me post the link but it's www[dot]fiddler2[dot]com) is just what we need. It's a completely free program.
Go download and install fiddler. This program will allow us to monitor and 'fiddle' with the network traffic on the fly!
First, fire up your tethering app on your phone and connect your computer. I personally use android WiFi tether but I suppose it probably doesn't matter which one you use. Once you've connected your computer. Open up fiddler, go to "Rules," "User-Agents," and select "Custom..." A window will pop up. Leave this blank and click okay. Now, all of the network traffic from that computer with have its user-agent string modified to "User-Agent:[blank]" Test this out on any browser on your computer and you should not be redirected to the upsell page.
Now for all of your other devices! I was particularly concerned with my PS3 but any device that supports proxy use will work. That's a hell of a lot more devices than the number that support UA spoofing haha. Go to "Connection Settings" on your PS3 and select "Manual"
Go through your setup as usual and connect to your phone's wifi hotspot. When you come to the page that says "Proxy Settings" select "Use"
For the IP address go back to your computer and look at Fiddler. In the top-right corner there is an image of two computers and it says "Online" next to it. Hover over that icon and it will have an IP address listed. This is the virtual proxy that Fiddler has set up for auxillary incoming traffic on the local network. Type that IP address into the PS3's proxy settings and use port 8888 (you may have to configure your computer firewall to allow incoming traffic on that address/port)
Also, in Fiddler go to the AutoResponder tab and check the box that says "Unmatched requests passthrough." This is so that HTTP requests that come in without a User-agent already defined will just be passed on. If this box is not checked you may get frequent 404 errors.
Finish up the connection settings on the PS3 and let it fly! You can watch the traffic on Fiddler in real time!
This is my first post on XDA and this workaround is brand new as far as I can tell so there may be some kinks that need to be worked out.
Let me know if you have any questions or problems!
Respectfully,
Hunter.
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Yeah, that's a workaround indeed, however the setup is long and extensive for anyone. We're still trying to find a QUICK solution that doesn't require a mass setup of every device. I only bounce to my tethering when there's an outage at home or I'm on the road, neither are the best solutions to be spending time switching everything over when I could have just as easily opened the browser on my phone to take care of everything. I found this post from the link you posted in the other thread where we weren't discussing hard solutions, just concepts and ideas, theoretical solutions (hence why there was never a post like this there). It's great to see that the one thing we know is the catalyst has been confirmed once again (HTTP USER-AGENT) as what T-Mo and every other carrier is doing, so this is a solution for not just T-Mo, but every provider. Again, it's a hell of a setup and requires that you keep at least one computer active during the ENTIRE tethering session, also, it appears T-Mo doesn't block Playstation 3 from what I can tell, at least we were able to watch like 3-4 hours of Netflix when we had the 500mb tethering cap without a problem.
This affect nat type? If I use this program? Ps3 online game though
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It seems T-Mobile has caught onto using different agents. I was trying to use mobile hotspot on my laptop yesterday. It didn't matter if my UA was android handset or Googlebot, it redirected me to a hotspot upsell page.
Dr. Hax said:
It seems T-Mobile has caught onto using different agents. I was trying to use mobile hotspot on my laptop yesterday. It didn't matter if my UA was android handset or Googlebot, it redirected me to a hotspot upsell page.
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Go into your APNs and select the tethering APN, if you can edit the hostname from epc.tmobile.com to fast.t-mobile.com or whatever your normal APN is, there are a bunch of threads talking about how to get tethering working, this is just the LAST step, don't come here thinking this is the FIRST step, you're going at it backwards.
TexasState said:
If you're like me, then you have a data plan with T-Mobile that includes only 2.5GB of data for tethering. After you 2.5GB is up,T-Mobile begins redirecting all of your tethered traffic to a webpage prompting you to buy more tethering data.
T-Mobile does this by reading all of the headers on every HTTP request. It analyzes each one and reads the User-Agent string. This is what tells websites how to deliver their content for you and is why you only get mobile versions of webpages on your phone and not on your laptop. So, many people got around this by spoofing the user agent with a browser plugin to make it look like your laptop was requesting the mobile version of websites (so T-Mobile would think that it's a phone requesting the data, not a tethered laptop.) However this solution only works for that specific browser. Other browsers, applications, and devices that do not support User-Agent spoofing were left without a solution. Was I really the only one trying to tether my PS3 for Netflix and gaming?
So some people turned to VPNs which basically act as a secure proxy so that T-Mobile could not read the traffic and tell what the User-Agent was. But this often costs money and/or slows down your network speed. Seeing as how people who are looking for a tether workaround are trying to not spend money, and are trying to use T-Mobile's lightning fast LTE, this isn't really a practical solution.
So after spending hours and hours looking for a solution, I came to the conclusion that there was none yet.
I deduced that the obvious solution would be to modify the packets on the fly and change the user-agent string of every HTTP request as it came to the phone before forwarding it on to T-Mobile. Luckily for us, all HTTP requests that have no User-Agent string or a string of "null/null" etc. are automatically accepted! So all that needed to be done was to strip the user-agent string of all of the outgoing HTTP requests - on the fly.
My first thought was that hopefully there was an android app that could do this.
There isn't.
And I am not capable of making one but if you find one or can make one, please tell me and I will adjust this explanation because that would make things a bit simpler. However, since we don't live in a perfect world, we have to run a program on a computer and route all traffic through that program. This wonderful little program that I came across called "Fiddler" (it won't let me post the link but it's www[dot]fiddler2[dot]com) is just what we need. It's a completely free program.
Go download and install fiddler. This program will allow us to monitor and 'fiddle' with the network traffic on the fly!
First, fire up your tethering app on your phone and connect your computer. I personally use android WiFi tether but I suppose it probably doesn't matter which one you use. Once you've connected your computer. Open up fiddler, go to "Rules," "User-Agents," and select "Custom..." A window will pop up. Leave this blank and click okay. Now, all of the network traffic from that computer with have its user-agent string modified to "User-Agent:[blank]" Test this out on any browser on your computer and you should not be redirected to the upsell page.
Now for all of your other devices! I was particularly concerned with my PS3 but any device that supports proxy use will work. That's a hell of a lot more devices than the number that support UA spoofing haha. Go to "Connection Settings" on your PS3 and select "Manual"
Go through your setup as usual and connect to your phone's wifi hotspot. When you come to the page that says "Proxy Settings" select "Use"
For the IP address go back to your computer and look at Fiddler. In the top-right corner there is an image of two computers and it says "Online" next to it. Hover over that icon and it will have an IP address listed. This is the virtual proxy that Fiddler has set up for auxillary incoming traffic on the local network. Type that IP address into the PS3's proxy settings and use port 8888 (you may have to configure your computer firewall to allow incoming traffic on that address/port)
Also, in Fiddler go to the AutoResponder tab and check the box that says "Unmatched requests passthrough." This is so that HTTP requests that come in without a User-agent already defined will just be passed on. If this box is not checked you may get frequent 404 errors.
Finish up the connection settings on the PS3 and let it fly! You can watch the traffic on Fiddler in real time!
This is my first post on XDA and this workaround is brand new as far as I can tell so there may be some kinks that need to be worked out.
Let me know if you have any questions or problems!
Respectfully,
Hunter.
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Doesn't work on ps3...obtaining ip address succeeds but internet connection fails..i added the ip and port 8888 to the fire wall and allowed connection. and when i hover over the two computers it shows two ip addresses i have tried both and same results
metro pcs upsell, lg optimus f3/JB 4.1.2
I'm on the Metro PCS network, i used to have the lg motion and that phone would hotspot my ps3 with no problems. I figured that I would upgrade my phone to the lg optimus F3 and keep hotspoting on the $60 unlimited plan. Much to my surprise I have ran into the same issue many have others have ran into, the tmobile upsell page. mine now says metro pcs upsell. so I have tried many Apps in the store with no possible way around the upsell page. After hours and days of research, its apperhant that tmobile and metro pcs are not restricting the tethering function. I can obtain an ip address but not gain internet access. As have many others. I've rooted my phone using motochopper, i installed titanium backup pro, and rom toolbox pro. I backed up all my apk's to the external and went root browsing for anything that has to do with wifi, hotspot or tether. I wasnt getting anywhere untill today. My LG Optimus F3 runs on JB 4.1.2, instead of finding tethering features i found the open source codes on sharing data and http rules. I dont have much experience with altering codes, but i do know this would be a great starting point for bypassing the upsell reroute. By using romtools pro, i finally found myself using the app manager, from there i clicked on the file networking apk, i scrolled the app display to the right to get to romtools special features, clicked on explore apk. Every rule was laid out in plain text using a notepad. Javax/servlets/resources. Every file in this folder can be read with notepad. There is tons of info regarding internet sharing, web browsing, and what runs and triggers the infamous upsell codes. I've read a few post where developers are trying to find the source of upsell, i hope this helps as a starting point. (Besides that) i was also able to enter the lg hidden menu and uninstall all metro pcs apps with one click
"(Besides that) i was also able to enter the lg hidden menu and uninstall all metro pcs apps with one click""" ????
i am in exact same boat , metropcs , rooted with all tricks tried , and still upsell page .
one interesting thing though is my lg motion can use the F3 wifi for ip camera apps . tried other apps but no go .
"IP camera viewer" has no issues accessing internet by way of a wifi tether on the F3 using my non active LG motion , strange .......the other apps report network errors or just fail to start ( netflix ) perhaps this will help in hunting a bypass on the UPsell crap
Thanks but...
Thanks for providing the most current news about this problem with Tmobile, I have been using HMA / foxfi since Aug 2013. Just a few hours ago it stopped working, couldn't even login to VPN. I lost my useragent switcher when I upgraded Chrome, and couldn't fall back on that either, so thanks for the tip about fiddler.
I am currently online because I caved to the upsell. So my question is, has Tmobile "improved" security on its upsell to the point that VPN's and UA spoofs dont work anymore, and do I have to learn the answer to this by community or by blowing my data limit again? Does anyone have a fresh strategy, or know what's going on in Tmobile business? Do they even care about people like us?
I live by this connection, since other ISP's around here are not worthwhile, and I maintain mobile business with my laptop, and I would prefer to process GB's without having to scavenge for someone else's wifi.
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Thanks for providing the most current news about this problem with Tmobile, I have been using HMA / foxfi since Aug 2013. Just a few hours ago it stopped working, couldn't even login to VPN. I lost my useragent switcher when I upgraded Chrome, and couldn't fall back on that either, so thanks for the tip about fiddler.
I am currently online because I caved to the upsell. So my question is, has Tmobile "improved" security on its upsell to the point that VPN's and UA spoofs dont work anymore, and do I have to learn the answer to this by community or by blowing my data limit again? Does anyone have a fresh strategy, or know what's going on in Tmobile business? Do they even care about people like us?
I live by this connection, since other ISP's around here are not worthwhile, and I maintain mobile business with my laptop, and I would prefer to process GB's without having to scavenge for someone else's wifi.
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VPN's no longer work for me either. I'm not getting the upsell page just no internet access at all while tethering.
Thanks TexasState, this was very valuable information that got me completely through T-Mobile's "walled garden" on their unlimited high-speed plan (for phones only) in an area where we don't have any good land-line options. :good:
What are some proactive approaches to making sure T-Mobile doesn't block my line? I'm using a phone basically as a makeshift wifi-router and all our computers run Fiddler. Is there anything else that T-Mobile might do to sniff out cheaters in the future? Is user-agent the only thing they can look at to determine if you're cheating?
Greetings first post here on XDA I have been able to tether via usb on metro/tmobile in OKC ,I am on a rooted F3 (LGMS659) I have tried just about everything a little luck with open garden but too slow for me ,downloaded foxfi wifi ap point no go ,redirected to upsell , tried usb with level one settings ,it works . but I may have done something when I entered the hidden menu 3548#*659# in settings those last two are interesting to me Upsell Url and ATS Start Property On
Took me about 8-10 hours to figure it out but i did it so heres how you get your tether back.
1.Open up your hidden menu.
2.Open Wlan test.
3. Click on UpSell and turn it off.
And turn on your tether app and have fun.
JUN10R831 said:
Took me about 8-10 hours to figure it out but i did it so heres how you get your tether back.
1.Open up your hidden menu.
2.Open Wlan test.
3. Click on UpSell and turn it off.
And turn on your tether app and have fun.
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After half a day on the unlimited plan with Tea Mobile, this seems to have worked for me. Had to reinstall hiddenmenu.apk on my LG phone because I removed it earlier as bloatware but even after a reinstall as a user (as opposed to system) app, it worked.
Procedure was slightly different due to different model of phone/hidden menu but same basic procedure. BTW, it's unlimited but with 2.5 gb cap for hotspot. Let's just say I'm over the cap.
EDIT: So I got to almost 6 gb in one day, but then I got the redirect of death. I will troubleshoot when I have time later.
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After half a day on the unlimited plan with Tea Mobile, this seems to have worked for me. Had to reinstall hiddenmenu.apk on my LG phone because I removed it earlier as bloatware but even after a reinstall as a user (as opposed to system) app, it worked.
Procedure was slightly different due to different model of phone/hidden menu but same basic procedure. BTW, it's unlimited but with 2.5 gb cap for hotspot. Let's just say I'm over the cap.
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What model did you use? Mine was in the Hidden Menu --> Settings menu.. and i chose "Upsell Try Off" with no avail.
LG G2 for Tmobile.
S4 "Hidden" Menu
I'm having the same issues as presented above but I'm unable to get into the "hidden" menu using the key code mentioned. I'm running Wicked V10 (it's great). Would love to test this out if I could access the right menu. So far I've gotten into the service menu but that's it.
This is by far the best work around I have found. Everything works. And if you are clever you can edit your user agent rules so they are automatic. Then turn fiddler into a windows service so ya never have to see it again and it just works. Excellent tutorial. The only thing I wish I could do is figure out how to get my Xbox 360 to connect to fiddlers proxy. If anyone knows please post it.
Thanks again OP
-Polluti0n
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T879 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Blank UA causes 403s and ASP issues.
This method works fantastic overall. I have my phone tethered to a router and run fiddler on all needed devices - no upsell message thus far (40GB+ down)
The issue I've run into is that some websites user the User Agent string to serve different content - by using a blank UA many ASP.net websites fail (on _doPostBack, in particular) and several give 403 errors (docs.WooThemes com) so I switched to a mobile UA but then sites serve mobile versions of their content (Amazon com). The next option is a desktop UA, but then I may as well not even switch it at ll?
I'm wondering - does anyone know what specifically T-Mobile looks for in the UA field, or know of a valid UA string that avoids detection but doesn't register as mobile (or give 403's)?
brn2drv99 said:
This method works fantastic overall. I have my phone tethered to a router and run fiddler on all needed devices - no upsell message thus far (40GB+ down)
The issue I've run into is that some websites user the User Agent string to serve different content - by using a blank UA many ASP.net websites fail (on _doPostBack, in particular) and several give 403 errors (docs.WooThemes com) so I switched to a mobile UA but then sites serve mobile versions of their content (Amazon com). The next option is a desktop UA, but then I may as well not even switch it at ll?
I'm wondering - does anyone know what specifically T-Mobile looks for in the UA field, or know of a valid UA string that avoids detection but doesn't register as mobile (or give 403's)?
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Googlebot and safari 5 for windows work great and are undetected by T-Mobile.
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Polluti0n said:
Googlebot and safari 5 for windows work great and are undetected by T-Mobile.
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Seems to work perfectly. Thanks!
For anyone needing it, here's a bare-bones CustomRules js file for Fiddler.
Code:
import System;
import Fiddler;
class Handlers
{
static function OnBeforeRequest(oSession: Session) {
// User-Agent Overrides
oSession.oRequest["User-Agent"] = "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +tp://w.google.com/bot.html)";
// Add 'ht' after the + and make it 3 'w's instead of just one
}
}