[Q] Playing Large MP4 Movie Files - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

Ok so my problem is regarding playing some movies I recently encoded. Movie info is as such:
h.264 MP4
2.8gb size
2000 kps Bitrate
800x480 resolution
29.75 Fps
128 kps audio
The movies I have tried are King Kong and Inception, now these movies have both played fine using WP7 but when I try to load them in Android they fail to play.
Is there a file size limit to what Android can handle processing? Shorter movies (FF7 Advent Children for example) will play just fine when the file size is about 1.5-1.8gb.
I tried the stock video player along with several free options from the market and same story every time.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this for me
Currently Rom I'm using is in my signature

2.8gb for movie files is too bigger to handled by android sd cache, have u try sd card booster ?
anyway what the encoder program u have used ? a 2.8gb with WVGA resolution kinda waste
Im suggesting 'auto gk ' for best compression

I believe the problem is the SD card file system.
Fat32 cannot support files bigger than 2048MB = 2GB

sorry to throw this into further confusion but i just finished watching sorcerer's apprentice and the mp4 file size is 2.6gb. i alternate between using rockplayer and vital player on my hd2. no problems and the skip / locate works well. example, i wasn't able to finish it on the train yesterday morning. in the afternoon, boarded the train and rockplayer picked it up from the last scene i left it. although....i DID run into an mkv 300mb file which was rather slow and the skip/locate froze up. which is really strange because i've watched other mkv files with no problems. could be the file itself regardless if it's mp4, mkv, avi, etc.

zach.antre said:
I believe the problem is the SD card file system.
Fat32 cannot support files bigger than 2048MB = 2GB
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Fat32 is 4gb limit if I remember right from my xbox360 days, if it was 2gb the file wouldn't be on a fat32 drive in the first place, or copy successfully onto a fat32 SD card from say a ntfs drive

download QQ Player from the android market. Thats what solved my problem.

2.8gb for movie files is too bigger to handled by android sd cache, have u try sd card booster ?
anyway what the encoder program u have used ? a 2.8gb with WVGA resolution kinda waste
Im suggesting 'auto gk ' for best compression
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I use iSkysoft media converter, very easy and great quality
Gunblade77 said:
download QQ Player from the android market. Thats what solved my problem.
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I tried that and still nothing
sorry to throw this into further confusion but i just finished watching sorcerer's apprentice and the mp4 file size is 2.6gb. i alternate between using rockplayer and vital player on my hd2. no problems and the skip / locate works well. example, i wasn't able to finish it on the train yesterday morning. in the afternoon, boarded the train and rockplayer picked it up from the last scene i left it. although....i DID run into an mkv 300mb file which was rather slow and the skip/locate froze up. which is really strange because i've watched other mkv files with no problems. could be the file itself regardless if it's mp4, mkv, avi, etc.
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See I wonder what it is that's different that allowed you to play that.

Related

Sdhc - Divx Prob

dont know if this is connected to me upgrading to an 8 gig card but when running a divx movie from the card im getting a stuttering the sound is running fine but the picture isnt keeping up...tried another file but the same result..is this connected to the new card or is there a better divx player than core player that might be able to keep up???
Did you play this file before and did it play smoothly with your old card? Do you have the same ROM and do you use OmapClock?
You could try using the trial version of Pocket Mechanic to benchmark your old sd card, then your new one.It's not inconceivable that the bigger card might be slightly slower at file IO.
neither of the files would have fitted on the old card both just over 1gig so i cant say if they did but ive also put several smaller pop vids on the card and they play fine its only when i try to play large files i seem to get this
If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.
Registerme said:
If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.
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Could you please post up all the settings for that profile?
Registerme said:
If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.
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exactly.
you can't expect to run a 3000bitrate dvd movie 720x520 on your pocketPC which has a CPU of 200-400 and 64mb ram
get pocketdivxencoder and recode all your movies. if you would have done this in the past already, you could have fit that 2 movies on a 1GB card, hehe.
i encode my movies using a program i cant remember the name of, but i set it to 320x240 res and they are aroud 80mb! get loads on a 1gb SD!
thanks for the advice...used pocket encoder all working fine noe ..i think the prob was the video file was an hd sourced movie so a little bit hi res
STARGATE69 said:
thanks for the advice...used pocket encoder all working fine noe ..i think the prob was the video file was an hd sourced movie so a little bit hi res
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i donno if people agree with me.. but till today i have watched more than 15movies... all are of 700mb full length movies..have never used any encoders.. it used to play damn well.. i have no issues playing full length movies.. its just the right codecs had to be installed to watch any movie..
but i totally agree abt the encoding part of the movies to smaller size ....which will reduce the size.. which is def req when it comes to storage importance..

Videos on Nexus One

What video format does the nexus one read and where on the sdcard do we put them? Also what format does the camera output too when finished recording video?
Blueman101 said:
What video format does the nexus one read and where on the sdcard do we put them? Also what format does the camera output too when finished recording video?
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Don't know about the first question, but the camera outputs 720x480. Try recording a video and checking your sd card to see the format.
it natively reads H.263 (encode and decode) MPEG-4 SP (encode and decode) H.264 AVC (decode), and no doubt reads many others with apps downloaded from the market. I beleive on the SD Card put them in a folder called "Video". Not sure about what the video output format is but I do know it is compatible with Youtube Uploading.
melterx12 said:
it natively reads H.263 (encode and decode) MPEG-4 SP (encode and decode) H.264 AVC (decode), and no doubt reads many others with apps downloaded from the market. I beleive on the SD Card put them in a folder called "Video". Not sure about what the video output format is but I do know it is compatible with Youtube Uploading.
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what extensions do those equate to? avi? wmv? m4v?
avi, mp4, not sure about wmv.
Just to test, I downloaded the 720P video of "Elephant's Dream" in MP4 format. . . AMAZING quality. :-D
http://www.savevid.com/video/elephants-dream-hd-1080p.html Scroll down and download the MP4 version.
Link says 1080, but pretty sure the MP4 is only 720.
DivX???
12345
What software are you using to convert movies for Nexus, And what settings?
Wont play HD files , even in mp4.
No divx.
only 9 days
and its her
DocRambone said:
What software are you using to convert movies for Nexus, And what settings?
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Im using a Mac and will be using doubleTwist (Also on PC)
Because it syncs with my iTunes but you can just drop and drag videos and it will convert to the correct format you
It will even detect your device as a Nexus One
MP4 is simply an encapsulation method, many MP4s are just going to be incompatible. There are pretty fine settings needed to get it to work, but I believe you'll want to transcode movies to h.264 or h.263 for video and aac audio, in 480x800.
If you want to be sure you can view the Nexus' videos on your PC, set up a youtube account and upload them after recording. Then you can log into your YouTube account and download them as MP4 (h.264)
stewart1988 said:
Im using a Mac and will be using doubleTwist (Also on PC)
Because it syncs with my iTunes but you can just drop and drag videos and it will convert to the correct format you
It will even detect your device as a Nexus One
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Thanks, i try doubletwist.
where do we put videos on the sdcard, i cant find anywhere to put it.
Hey Blueman... I just plugged in the sdcard and made a new folder called video and put some movies and music videos in there. Once inserted back into the handset they were in my gallery, was pretty easy.
jacksonj51 said:
Hey Blueman... I just plugged in the sdcard and made a new folder called video and put some movies and music videos in there. Once inserted back into the handset they were in my gallery, was pretty easy.
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what format?
I always codec my videos to mp4 or m4v... I have loads of videos I've converted for my Omnia HD which are mostly mp4 and divx.... haven't tried any divx yet but the mp4's play just fine.
In case anyone needs an awesome video converter the best one IMO is format factory, which is free and has tons of presets and is easy to use.
http://www.formatoz.com/
m4v's aren't showing up on mine, they play the audio, but the video is not there.
Blueman101 said:
m4v's aren't showing up on mine, they play the audio, but the video is not there.
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i'm getting the same thing from an mkv file i encode. i do have some other mp4's working, but can't figure out the settings to get every movie working. how annoying. just support more formats!
why arent avi's supported?

Anyone know of a good Movie Converter?

Looking for a good movie converter from divx to something that the nexus can play. Preferably free. I'm a little new to this.
handbrake has been my main movie encoder for the last few years. I have never had anything in divx before but it ripped an avi_divx sample file I found on the web just fine.
If you are a windows user and handbrake is not your cup of tea you might look around doom9.net .
download doubletwist.
I used Super C for the g1 - worked great.
Unrelated, but I ran into what seems to be a FS issue when trying to copy some movies, and that the microsd card can't support files over 4GB in size. Windows however is telling me that the FS is fat32 and not fat16. So I'm still left wondering what the limitation was/is.
Edit: nvm I had my FS messed up, and fat32 does in fact have a file size limitation of 4GB.
alexguitar said:
download doubletwist.
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Does doubletwist convert them and shrink them or just to download movies? I don't see anywhere to convert and shrink.
Nothing could be better than a simple MediaCoder (just for every purposes)
I've had good luck with "Any Video Converter"... at least with the G1. It does any sort of conversion imaginable and is free, IIRC.

movie format and app question

okay, whats the best movie format for the tilt2, i've searched and still confused, if mpeg4, avi, divx, etc...also what's the best app to watch them in: TCPMP, coreplayer or the stock steaming that is loaded already..etc....
thanks in advance,
fyi, might be will to share some movie by posting it on a server for a couple days...=)
What I prefer for movie format is straight up Windows Media Video . Its great and its stock for Windows Mobile.
The Encoder for your PPC is called Windows Meda Encoder 9 (Google it).
Instructions.
Here are the steps to get the video size you want, which I hope you will try, you must go to the New Session Wizard, then click on Convert a File (If you are trying to convert a video file into WMV).
Then find your source file which is your Video you want to watch on your TP2, after that choose your output (Where you want to put that file after it encoded into WMV)
After click Pocket PC (Note that you won't change resolution here)
After all that, choose specifically Pocket PC widescreen video (CBR), then choose the quality of your Bitrate, Audio, and if you want you can add all the Description to your video file if you'd like. (Note that you won't change resolution here either)
Click next, and DON'T check mark Begin converting when I click finish.
Then click finish, after that click Properties on your Windows Media Encoder 9 (it should be on top with a Check mark inside a paper symbol) and click the Video Size Tab. There at the bottom of the wizard you should find Width and Height, set the Resolution to 800 x 480 if you want to view your video horizantel or 480 x 800which is vertical ( which I don't prefer ) After all that, your video should be small but at a good quality and allowing you to have free space on your Micro SD card, and it should be playing on WMP on your phone.
Hope my 2 cents helps
Like avi... Have 700+Mb movie files converted from dvds and they work like a dream...
Use coreplayer...
I use this for converting to MPG4 and then I view using the HTC player.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
Free and absolutely smooth. Easy and quick converting.
mhurg said:
I use this for converting to MPG4 and then I view using the HTC player.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/htc-touch-pro2/
Free and absolutely smooth. Easy and quick converting.
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I tried this but it puts in on an .mp4 format that does not play in my TP2, am I missing something? thanks.
i have another question, whats the best average size movie to put on the tilt 2 and still have good picture and runs smooth
About the average size for a movie would be almost 200MB to 300MB depending on the amount of time of the movie.
as anyone converted transformer 2 movie to mpeg4, i'm having problems...that movie won't let you convert?
apax said:
as anyone converted transformer 2 movie to mpeg4, i'm having problems...that movie won't let you convert?
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I suppose whether it can be converted properly or not depends on the software you are useing and the source of the file.... who knows what could be wrong with it if you stole it off the internet. If you ripped it from your own dvd/bluray and it isnt working I would say that's likely because what ever converter program you are using doesnt work.
That said.. I dont bother coverting anything really. avi/mpg whatever format they come in TCPMP or Core player will play them just fine.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I suppose whether it can be converted properly or not depends on the software you are useing and the source of the file.... who knows what could be wrong with it if you stole it off the internet. If you ripped it from your own dvd/bluray and it isnt working I would say that's likely because what ever converter program you are using doesnt work.
That said.. I dont bother coverting anything really. avi/mpg whatever format they come in TCPMP or Core player will play them just fine.
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i'm using roxio...but every other movie i was able to convert like avatar, fast and furious, etc....but the transformer 2 dvd i can not convert, i think it has to many files or protection lock on it....
my question is has anyone successfully converted transformer 2 movie?
media player
Ok go to this website www.krenisiswinmobilegamesapps.com
go to the Apps section and download the total media player

Can't watch Avatar on the HD2

Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
i view my movies using a divx player with no problems at all.
Mike
Try TCPMP player , install it then open the program and hit file than open and select the movie! let me know if this works.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
ibeQuint said:
Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
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Good to know what player do you recommend?
core player and tcmp player work all the time.. Dix player"sometimes work" but has small keys and audio issues but at least you can adjust sound and timeframe in fullscreen.
I will try the other encoding program. I downloaded pocket divx player and I couldn't figure out how to open up a new file and I tried to follow the directions in the program. Is it possible that I am having a hard time with my mp4 files because I transferred them not via Activesync but by the other option that pops up when you first connect your phone to a computer? Will post in a bit when I try the new encoder.
Edit: Tried the new encoder, but all sorts of error messages when I showed them the contents of my Avatar DVD. I have 33 files on the actual DVD, which ones am I trying to encode?
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
did you try the tcpmp player?
tgerbracht said:
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
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Yes. Just because it plays on the computer doesn't mean it'll play on the phone. Your computer's hardware is substantially "faster" than the HD2's. Optimizing the video through encoding is usually the answer.
Toss3 said:
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
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Oof, this program does look confusing. I'm going to go through the help files and try to get a grasp of it all, but if you have some preset settings or a streamlined bit of advice, I'm all for it. So far I'm trying one-click method and I've been able to show it where the .vob files are and create a directory to place the file and working directory. There is a hick-up with something about the chapter titles and it looks like it needs a file but it shows nothing when I explore my DVD drive. The Megui wiki isn't very clear here...though the program looks promising!
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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Will try this-along with tcmp and will report back.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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wow.... cool app! Thanks for the link!!!
juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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THANKS! The ---only--- DVD encoder that just worked!
Edit:
Tried Handbrake (couldn't reliably read DVD to burn), Winx DVD Ripper (couldnt play on HD2), couldnt figure out meGUI and the other encoder linked here, and I didn't have to use any other player other than the nice HTC one. Thanks again.
tgerbracht said:
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
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A lot of standalone players worldwide need a firmware update to make it work because Avatar BD uses a new encryption scheme called BD+ 5. I recommend u a blu ray ripper named PavTube. I think the Pavtube Blu-Ray Ripper Software is currently the best ripping software and surprisingly it can rip both DVDs & Blu-Ray Discs without the need of having a different Undo-Protection program. I have tried many brands of ripping software with poor results. PavTube Blue-Ray Ripper is a real "Swiss Knife". Download a demo version and you will find it is definitly worth buying.Experience Blu Ray Avatar in the center of your Home Theater System

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