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as the title states could i buy the handset when its out and just use it with my simcard?
No, CDMA networks only. Pretty sure that a GSM version will be released without the 4g capabilities...someday
ragdoll20 said:
as the title states could i buy the handset when its out and just use it with my simcard?
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This is CDMA phone, and CDMA does not support SIM cards, so I would have to say no.
ahh too bad, well alright
If it's because the Netherlands or most of Europe don't have 4G networks yet, because they only want the Evo to run on 4G networks not 3G networks, then answer me the following question:
Well how come they have released the Max 4G in the past in Eurpope and won't release a GSM version of the 4G Evo?
does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
sloppy1 said:
does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
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It already is? The phone comes unlocked.
You can use it on any GSM carrier. Be aware, however, you will only get a 3G signal if you are using it on T-Mobile's network. You cannot use this phone on CDMA carriers(Sprint/Verizon) because of the different technologies.
sloppy1 said:
does anyone know how to open nexus s to all networks,,help needed
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Do you mean SIM unlocked the phone to be used on any GSM network? The phone is factory SIM unlocked from Samsung/Google, either you bought it full price or with the contract, still SIM unlocked. Just insert any Sim card of your choice and your good to go.
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in usa it is ,,,but in uk on 02 its carrier locked as i want to put it on 3 network
unremarked said:
It already is? The phone comes unlocked.
You can use it on any GSM carrier. Be aware, however, you will only get a 3G signal if you are using it on T-Mobile's network. You cannot use this phone on CDMA carriers(Sprint/Verizon) because of the different technologies.
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What do you mean when you saying that you can use 3G only in T-mobile network??
If i put a Greek SIM card f.e. with a GSM provider, i will be unable to use 3G???
Different GSM devices use different frequencies. That is why there was an AT&T nexus1 and a T-Mobile nexus1. Both GSM phones, but different frequencies. If you use a T-mobile phone on a network like AT&T you cannot get 3g. The phone will work, with voice, and edge data, but no 3g. Pretty sure same goes for the AT&T n1 on t-mo, but I could be wrong there, too lazy to check the frequencies.
Always check to make sure your GSM provider uses the same 3g/2g frequency as your device.
I'm not smart enough to know why they are unable to build the Nexus with a radio that covers all frequencies, would be cool if somebody could elaborate on that.
kalagas said:
What do you mean when you saying that you can use 3G only in T-mobile network??
If i put a Greek SIM card f.e. with a GSM provider, i will be unable to use 3G???
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You need to find what frequencies your greek provider has for 3G. The nexus s has 900 / 1700 / 2100. I think it might work as it has 2100 band, but please double check what your carrier has for 3G bands, as I don't live in europe.
So i just checked and My Provider's 3G frequency is at 2100MHz...
Also My provider's GSM frequencies are 900/1800...
That means i can't get Nexus S 3G work on my provider???
insanemachine said:
You need to find what frequencies your greek provider has for 3G. The nexus s has 900 / 1700 / 2100. I think it might work as it has 2100 band, but please double check what your carrier has for 3G bands, as I don't live in europe.
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Ok from your answer i think it will work 3G on my network provider...
Here i found a usefull link to check what frequencies all providers all over the world use...
Yep, you will have 3G on your nexus s.
The Nexus S with the frequencies it uses will work on T-Mobiles 3G network in the USA and the 3g on most if not all carriers in Europe.
Does the Note work with any networks 4g? AT&T or T-Mobile maybe?
Does it work with T-Mobile's 3g at least? If so, any idea what is up and download speeds are?
Im thinking about getting this phone.
It works on ATT's H+ "4g network", 3g network, and 2g edge network.
and T-Mobile's 2g Edge network, not 3g or 4g.
And it should work on any other GSM Carrier in the US, just check the frequencies for 3g internet(if its the same as ATT, and if it is, it's most likely a subsidy of ATT anyway)
Spartan2x said:
It works on ATT's H+ "4g network", 3g network, and 2g edge network.
and T-Mobile's 2g Edge network, not 3g or 4g.
And it should work on any other GSM Carrier in the US, just check the frequencies for 3g internet(if its the same as ATT, and if it is, it's most likely a subsidy of ATT anyway)
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wow, im glad i asked. looks like i'll have to move to at&t then. No way could I use this phone on just 2g
So...it's probably safe to say that everyone in this forum knows about the 7 year roaming deal that AT&T has signed with T-Mobile. Does anyone have any ideas on when that will happen? And the big question...will the iPhone technically be able to be used on 3G with T-Mobile? Yes, it would only work while roaming, but would it not work for some reason? A T-Mobile rep brought up the question and I thought it was a good question. I'd like it to bring in revenues for T-Mobile...but I love my fast speed I get with T-Mobile, and 10 gazillion iPhones would do nothing but harm for that.
**Updated** Please, if anyone can check their Android phone (via *#0011#) and post if it says band II along with the city you're in at the time that it shows it! We need to find out which cities have been refarmed to 1900MHz for 3G/4G.
So, go forth and discuss
List of pentaband UMTS devices:
T-Mobile Galaxy S II (T989)
Nokia N8 and N9
T-Mobile Vibrant (T959)
Galaxy Nexus (HSPA version)
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It'd be 2G roaming. The carriers' 3G networks are incompatible. While AT&T devices will work on T-Mobile's EDGE data, it shouldn't be common enough to impact our speeds much. The only way this could possibly happen is if both AT&T and T-Mobile started selling exclusively pentaband HSPA devices. Which would be awesome on so many levels.
synaesthetic said:
It'd be 2G roaming. The carriers' 3G networks are incompatible. While AT&T devices will work on T-Mobile's EDGE data, it shouldn't be common enough to impact our speeds much. The only way this could possibly happen is if both AT&T and T-Mobile started selling exclusively pentaband HSPA devices. Which would be awesome on so many levels.
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It's 3G, check Engadget. I'm sure it's 2G as well. And I know of at least one phone that is pentaband UMTS...mine, the Galaxy S II lol
Trevnerdio said:
It's 3G, check Engadget. I'm sure it's 2G as well. And I know of at least one phone that is pentaband UMTS...mine, the Galaxy S II lol
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The OP specifically asked about the iPhone, which is unable to get 3G on T-Mobile's network. So if an AT&T iPhone were to roam on T-Mobile's network, it would not get 3G speeds.
Edit: The Galaxy Nexus is also pentaband, and so are the Nokia N8 and N9. The original Vibrant is also pentaband.
The Skyrocket is also pentaband, so I'll be able to mooch off of 42.2mbps HSPA+ when I get an LTE throttle. LOL
Longcat14 said:
The Skyrocket is also pentaband, so I'll be able to mooch off of 42.2mbps HSPA+ when I get an LTE throttle. LOL
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Yes, but is it DC-HSPA+? If not, no 42.2Mbps for you!
synaesthetic said:
Yes, but is it DC-HSPA+? If not, no 42.2Mbps for you!
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Skyrocket has a more advanced modem.
Well, it's really just the T-Mobile radio with LTE slapped into it, so yes, I do have 42.2Mbps.
has anyone tried the AT&T skyrocket on T-Mobile? Does it support HSPA+ AWS? AFAIK, only LTE works on AWS for this phone.
Thanks everyone for the phones. I've been busy and couldn't really update the thread. The current gen iPhone doesn't have AWS, yes, but since the roaming agreement is UMTS, wouldn't that allow T-Mobile devices that have the ability to roam on 850/1900 bands the ability to connect to their 3G network? So jailbroken iPhones that are activated on T-Mobile could roam over to AT&T 3G, it's just that it isn't likely that AT&T would allow it.
Am I right in my assumption?
I don't think AT&T would allow it, honestly.
Edit: According to GSMArena, the Skyrocket doesn't support 1700/2100 HSPA+. Only 1700/2100 LTE.
synaesthetic said:
I don't think AT&T would allow it, honestly.
Edit: According to GSMArena, the Skyrocket doesn't support 1700/2100 HSPA+. Only 1700/2100 LTE.
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Thanks for the heads up. And when the others in the thread said the Galaxy Nexus, they were referring to the European version, correct?
Edit: it's 700/1700 for LTE and then the normal AT&T bands for WCDMA
synaesthetic said:
I don't think AT&T would allow it, honestly.
Edit: According to GSMArena, the Skyrocket doesn't support 1700/2100 HSPA+. Only 1700/2100 LTE.
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Over at the T-Mobile SGS II forums, when I flashed a T-Mo SGS II modem, I gained access to 1700/2100.
All I need is a T-Mo SIM card to test if it'll connect to 3G, which I don't have.
I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus so naturally I am quite excited for this.
But the question remains... Does anyone have the slightest idea when this service will go live???
Lucasmpinelli said:
I have the GSM Galaxy Nexus so naturally I am quite excited for this.
But the question remains... Does anyone have the slightest idea when this service will go live???
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It's not as simple as touching AT&T, and roaming.
You have to be in an area where there is COMPLETELY no T-Mobile signal, it can't even pick it up when you scan for it. Then, and ONLY then, will the SIM allow you to verify it on AT&T's network for roaming.
With AT&T's larger coverage footprint, you T-Mo users should have some nice coverage while traveling.
Longcat14 said:
Over at the T-Mobile SGS II forums, when I flashed a T-Mo SGS II modem, I gained access to 1700/2100.
All I need is a T-Mo SIM card to test if it'll connect to 3G, which I don't have.
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You can do that?
I2IEAILiiTY said:
You can do that?
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Skyrocket has the same modem as the T-Mo SGS II, except with LTE attached.
It's a different modem number, but other then LTE, it's all the same.
So yes, I can.
Longcat14 said:
It's not as simple as touching AT&T, and roaming.
You have to be in an area where there is COMPLETELY no T-Mobile signal, it can't even pick it up when you scan for it. Then, and ONLY then, will the SIM allow you to verify it on AT&T's network for roaming.
With AT&T's larger coverage footprint, you T-Mo users should have some nice coverage while traveling.
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Where do you get your information? I thought that's how it has always worked prior to this new roaming agreement. I spoke to a T-mobile store rep (not the best source of information) and he told me that iPhones on west coast had 3G access.
Longcat14 said:
Skyrocket has the same modem as the T-Mo SGS II, except with LTE attached.
It's a different modem number, but other then LTE, it's all the same.
So yes, I can.
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Oh, so that's only on the skyrocket...
cephasara said:
Where do you get your information? I thought that's how it has always worked prior to this new roaming agreement. I spoke to a T-mobile store rep (not the best source of information) and he told me that iPhones on west coast had 3G access.
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I've heard that T-Mo is doing some spectrum refarming on the PCS band...in other words, 3G is starting to pop up in certain markets on the 1900MHz band
Just wondering if the galaxy s5 from verizon will work with tmobile's 4glte network. Thanks
2012crazymexican said:
Just wondering if the galaxy s5 from verizon will work with tmobile's 4glte network. Thanks
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No. T-Mobile's LTE bands are 1700/2100 AWS and they are not supported on the Verizon S5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#4G_LTE_upgrade
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id8202
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743018
jcollier said:
No. T-Mobile's LTE bands are 1700/2100 AWS and they are not supported on the Verizon S5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#4G_LTE_upgrade
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id8202
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Thanks
hEaTLoE said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743018
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Thanks even tho i would prefer someone with an s5 on tmobiles service
2012crazymexican said:
Thanks even tho i would prefer someone with an s5 on tmobiles service
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Yes, it does. I have used the same APN, fast.t-mobile.com, on my VZW S5 as i did with my VZW Note 3 and I am indeed getting 4Glte on tmo.
Oyeve said:
Yes, it does. I have used the same APN, fast.t-mobile.com, on my VZW S5 as i did with my VZW Note 3 and I am indeed getting 4Glte on tmo.
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can you tell me how to do this with details?
ive never owned a verizon device.
2012crazymexican said:
Just wondering if the galaxy s5 from verizon will work with tmobile's 4glte network. Thanks
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Yes.
I am able to successfully use my VZ Galaxy Note 3 and my wife uses her VZ Galaxy S5, both devices on T-mobile Edge, HSPA, HSPA+ (21mbps), and LTE (band 4) frequencies. These devices unfortunately will not do DC-HSPA+ (42mbps), but that's not a big deal for us because LTE coverage is good where we live. We have no issues with making voice calls, or sending SMS/MMS, and don't have to switch APN's or toggle between Global Mode or GSM/UMTS mode. We leave them on Global Mode with the correct APN settings.
Here's the guide I followed for both (with correct APN settings screenshots to accommodate for MMS on page 4 or 5 i believe):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
How did you guys get 4G LTE
trevorcobb said:
Yes.
I am able to successfully use my VZ Galaxy Note 3 and my wife uses her VZ Galaxy S5, both devices on T-mobile Edge, HSPA, HSPA+ (21mbps), and LTE (band 4) frequencies. These devices unfortunately will not do DC-HSPA+ (42mbps), but that's not a big deal for us because LTE coverage is good where we live. We have no issues with making voice calls, or sending SMS/MMS, and don't have to switch APN's or toggle between Global Mode or GSM/UMTS mode. We leave them on Global Mode with the correct APN settings.
Here's the guide I followed for both (with correct APN settings screenshots to accommodate for MMS on page 4 or 5 i believe):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
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The *#27663368378# code is saying mmi is invalid?