[Q] What are the real advantages of updating to 1.2 rooted from 1.1 rooted? - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I'm pretty happy with my NC with 1.1 rooted. It seems like there are still some issues with 1.2 rooted, particularly with the marketplace. I know 1.2 enables the B&N Marketplace, but I don't need that since I have the Android Market installed. Also, 1.2 has Flash, but I honestly don't use flash all that much. In that case, what other advantages does 1.2 offer? Is it faster/more stable? Is the interface better?
Also, has anyone gotten 1.2 to be able to detect ad-hoc wifi networks? For me, being able to use my mobile phone hotspot is a must-have.
Thanks

ptf said:
So I'm pretty happy with my NC with 1.1 rooted. It seems like there are still some issues with 1.2 rooted, particularly with the marketplace. I know 1.2 enables the B&N Marketplace, but I don't need that since I have the Android Market installed. Also, 1.2 has Flash, but I honestly don't use flash all that much. In that case, what other advantages does 1.2 offer? Is it faster/more stable? Is the interface better?
Also, has anyone gotten 1.2 to be able to detect ad-hoc wifi networks? For me, being able to use my mobile phone hotspot is a must-have.
Thanks
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1.2 is faster thanks to the JIT compiler of Froyo
You get flash, which for me is one of the top reasons to go android over ipad!!!!
Adhoc works for me
Right now only thing not working well on nootered NC ids market is working funky

ptf said:
So I'm pretty happy with my NC with 1.1 rooted. It seems like there are still some issues with 1.2 rooted, particularly with the marketplace. I know 1.2 enables the B&N Marketplace, but I don't need that since I have the Android Market installed. Also, 1.2 has Flash, but I honestly don't use flash all that much. In that case, what other advantages does 1.2 offer? Is it faster/more stable? Is the interface better?
Also, has anyone gotten 1.2 to be able to detect ad-hoc wifi networks? For me, being able to use my mobile phone hotspot is a must-have.
Thanks
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I'm in the same boat. I'm on 1.1 nootered, and I actually like it fine. I don't see the real need to update to 1.2. Flash would be a plus, but I just keep an image of Froyo on another uSD card for when I need flash. I like 2.1 because the battery life is awesome, and I remember that moving to Android 2.2 from 2.1 reduced my phone's battery life a bit. For a device that I'd like to have last as long as possible, any hit to battery life for minor upgrades is not acceptable.
Has anyone done testing to see if NC 1.2 reduced battery life any appreciable amount?

Other than Flash, the way it stands right now, I don't see a whole lot of reasons to go 1.2. If you're getting by without flash right now, you obviously must not need it all that bad, so if I were you I would not use that in my determination to move to 1.2.
I recently went to rooted 1.2 from rooted 1.01 and I'm not all that happy about it. My video playback has suffered...not only do the videos not work as well, I'd say the quality of those videos actually looks worse too. Not sure why/how, but it does. I enjoyed putting a movie on my Nook when I was traveling or just tinkering with it. As mentioned above, the Market is very funky right now....pretty annoying. Apps like Redbox aren't functioning properly for me either. On rooted 1.01, it picked up my location based on WiFi....for some reason, that's not working on rooted 1.2. I'm sure it'll all get ironed out, but as of right now, I wish I had stayed on where I was.
I would go to CM7 except for my kid loves the read to me books which I can't use on CM7.

The best advantage of updating to 1.2 is the ability to post questions in the "questions and answers" thread instead of development area.
cm7 > stock

Teksu said:
cm7 > stock
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Unless, you know, you actually want to read books and such.

johnny15 said:
I recently went to rooted 1.2 from rooted 1.01 and I'm not all that happy about it. My video playback has suffered...not only do the videos not work as well, I'd say the quality of those videos actually looks worse too. Not sure why/how, but it does. I enjoyed putting a movie on my Nook when I was traveling or just tinkering with it.
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Movie watching while traveling, along with reading Nook books, are the main uses my NC sees. I guess I'll stick to 1.1 since it seems 1.2 doesn't really add anything for me.

Rattor said:
Unless, you know, you actually want to read books and such.
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I read books just fine using CM7...
Look into dual booting, that might provide the best of both worlds

CM7 is slow as molasses re. Market downloads, force closes etc for me running on my current uSD card. I have a Transcend Class 6 on order so hopefully it will work better. Staying with stock 1.1 right now - have flash on my phone when I need it and the 1.2 Froyo Market issues haven't been ironed out yet.

dohturdima said:
CM7 is slow as molasses re. Market downloads, force closes etc for me running on my current uSD card. I have a Transcend Class 6 on order so hopefully it will work better. Staying with stock 1.1 right now - have flash on my phone when I need it and the 1.2 Froyo Market issues haven't been ironed out yet.
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If it's no better with your new card (hopefully it is), running cm7 off emmc is pretty dang fast in my opinion. My NC is about as fast as my stock Fascinate was before i OC'd that.

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If it's no better with your new card (hopefully it is), running cm7 off emmc is pretty dang fast in my opinion. My NC is about as fast as my stock Fascinate was before i OC'd that.
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Out of curiosity, which uSD card (brand, size, class) are you using to run CM7?
New uSD should arrive today, but I won't be able to test it until tomorrow night. Hopefully it's just the POS Partriot Class 10 (my @$$ ) that's the culprit. Could be a bad flash too...
I have a Samsung Epic 4G and if NC with CM7 off uSD runs anywhere close to stock Sammy I would be ecstatic.

Related

Just switched from 3GS

Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
seanlindo06 said:
Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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First, remove task killer. Android does it on its own, and if you root and load a rom I think most of them have an adjustable memory manager now hacked into the kernel.
Second, have fun.
Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.
2.1 also incorporates bluetooth file transfer and most the roms here have the option for live wallpapers, apps 2 sd, and 2 roms now allow overclocking.....super fast. Take the leap......root and enjoy 2.1 but please research, research, research.
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2and 2 roms now allow overclocking....
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Correction, 3 roms are overclocked But really, 2.1 is just better. I don't know really how to explain it. Better market app, better apps in market, and i've felt that it has been much more stable for me. With the exception of Gumbo 1.5c, I also felt that 1.5 roms were running a little slower for me...
seanlindo06 said:
Upon immediately turning on the device I'm overwhelmed. Everything is so open, so free, and I get a good signal everywhere I go. First thing I did was download advanced task killer and Facebook, but now I have no idea what to do except find a nice wallpaper and rearrange some widgets and icons. If I were to go with a 2.0 ROM, what are some outstanding differences compared to 1.5?
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I just switched from my 3GS about a month and a half ago, and I still have a hard time believing how open and free the OS is. That and the service (10 dropped calls a day ring a bell?) were the reasons I switched, besides getting on a Sprint Advantage Plan for $35 / month.
I think I had the phone for about 24 hours before rooting it. Once I did, I tried out some custom 1.5 roms, and they were pretty good.
Then I checked out Fresh 2.0d, which is 2.1 based, and thought... Hey, this is really cool! More app selections, better performance, etc.
Only recently did I decide that having Sense (All the pretty widgets and stuff) was unnecessary and took up too much memory. So I took the plunge into Fresh Toast 1.1, (Fresh 2.0d based) which not only has EXT4 support and overclocking (almost double stock speed) built into the kernel, but has the ability to use swap (virtual memory on your SD Card), JIT (just in time compiler, runs your kernel at a higher rate = faster process / compilation speed, about a 1.5 MFOPS increase... but it does kill sense) and A2SD (installing apps to an ext partition on your SD Card). I've got all these running, and my HTC Hero is now just as fast (most of the time) as my 3GS was.
Hope I was helpful, from one now-apple-hater to another.
PS - if youre hating Apple's closed source platform as much as me and have a personal vendetta (also like me) against them, you should check out this thread for some anti-apple bootscreens.
2.1 And It's Speed
W/ 2.1 you'll notice a huge jump in speed. You'll see transitions are a lot faster and smoother with a lot of apps opening quicker as well. Def something you should try out.
go for root!
welcome to andriod!
if you enjoy how open your phone is now just wait until you root your phone. superuser permission rocks. i love being able to open a terminal and see all of the stuff under the hood. rooting will give you a good recovery where you can easily back up your rom, try new roms and always be able to go back to the one you are most comfortable with.
also... wifi tethering rocks! favorite coffee shop doesnt have free wifi? no problem!
cheers and best of luck!
ryan
Hey all. I also just switched from my 3GS to the Hero a couple of days ago. I know that PPTP VPN support was intruduced with 2.1 but was wondering if anyone had actually tried it on cooked 2.1. Before the hero I tried the Samsung Moment and loaded a 2.1 ROM but VPN was broken.
Happy Rooting! I second the WiFi tether. Greatest invention since sliced bread
Kcarpenter said:
Third, 2.1 isn't a HUGE deal over 1.5 just some new apps available in the market, multi-touch additions...over all feel is the same though.
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WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.
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WHAT!
I went from an iPhone to a Pre, and decided hey let me try Android 1.5 (this was way before the 2.1 leak) I absolutely hated it, I didn't like having 1 gmail account that would sync I wanted all of them. Multi-Touch, BT transfer, BT phonebook, Wi-Fi on while in Airplane mode(I really need this, and the apps out there don't work quite as well as it does in 2.1) and much much more. I really can't stand 1.5 or 1.6 for that matter. 2.0 and above for me.
If it wasn't for these leaks I'd still be rocking my Pre.
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i agree with him
now that i have 2.1 on my phone im actually happier with its features than when it was 1.5.
For me, I just love the new market. For some reason, that's the only reason I like 1.6+ over 1.5-.

should I go Froyo???? with new memory

hi...
long story short...
my 8gb class 6 card was stolen.. have a 16gb class 6 coming at end of week. i was running DC2.1 last custom ROM. was also using apps2sd and it was working great!
question?
should I go ahead and get Froyo?
will its version of app2sd be as good as the 2.1 version? because with the efficient apps2sd on 2.1.. i am still pushing the limits of the memory.
who the hell steals sd cards?
Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?
YoungSinema said:
Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?
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Stable, yes. Final, no.
Look in the dev forum for CM6 RC1.
@OP:
Yea, get Froyo.
I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.
I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.
I have a 16g class 6 and i am running the current build of cm6 for the hero. I haven't had a single issue. its fast thank you devs
so yea get froyo.
thanks everyone... i guess I will give Froyo a try..
does it fix the phone lag... staring calls?
Haven't had any problems. Another bonus is that Froyo takes about half the space of 2.1 with Sense.
Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?
the froyo rom here is cyanogenmod6 its named after the cyanogen and is the sixth version of the multi platform android rom he and his team have put out. I do agree that some of the rom names are downright ridiculous and the word art junk I've seen for some of them just seems really lame and immature (think high school class projects with crap word art thrown in)
NO there is no sense 2.2 rom and there may or may not ever be one. Also before it gets asked in this thread, NO CM6 DOES NOT HAVE FLASH!
why are you syncing your phone to outlook? both outlook and the phone should sync to your calandar and email provider, your doing it kinda backwards. outlook is a client, and the phone is a client. why sync one client to another instead of syncing both clients directly to the service provider?
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
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Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?
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LanceLet said:
I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.
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Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
mrinehart93 said:
I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.
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Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2
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Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2
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Pics or GTFO.
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Pics or GTFO.
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The cm6 build is good but Ive gone back to fresh. The a2sd isnt as good imo as darks however you can integrate a2sd into cm6 and bypass the froyo version. Battery life was pretty random for me. I caibrated my battery and one use I got about 7 hours of streaming slacker over wifi and using a bluetooth headset to listen. Recharged and the next go around I gout 4 1/2 hours. personally 7 hours of that kind of use is damn good for me but 4 1/2 is a drastic drop. I didnt like the fact that it was ran at 691, I think my phone runs better running around 600. Above that and it can get a bit jumpy (oc widget and setcpu wouldnt maintain a frequency and the battery fix was too involved for my liking). Also I started getting a ton of FC's in launcherpro and the browser.
That being said, I made a nandroid so I can go back to it if I like but for now Im sticking with fresh's rom. The only feature I would like is the new google voice search but I rarely use voice functions anyways.
Edit: Scratch that, I loaded the updated nightly build and alot of my issues seem to be gone and OC Widget is holding at 576 so Im calibrating the battery and gonna test again.
I cannot believe I havent fried this phone after the amount of flashing and crap Ive done on it.
tejasrichard said:
Pics or GTFO.
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of what
ipfreelytech said:
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
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That. =P
I'm also in the process of calibrating the battery as my CM6 battery performance compared to Fresh 2.3.3 was pretty abysmal, but if it's NOT lightning quick, you're doing it wrong.
(CM6 is f-f-ffAST! Using the decad3nce #7 8/18 uncapped kernel currently, but even the included kernel was perfection)
hi all...
i tried to flash this blue rom...
it did not work.
I lost my SD card. got a replacement 16gb class6.
I also have an old 1gb class2.
i have been rooted since I got the phone in Dec and have flashed many ROMs with no issues. I was last on DC 2.1 custom Rom.
it just gets stuck in "HTC" splash screen. wait 15-30 mins. never comes out. here is what I have done...
each time i wipe the data and Dalvik.
flash the 2.2 ROM.
both from the 1gb and the 16gb.
just stuck in the black screen "htc"
what do I need to do?

What to do with new nook color?

I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
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I have a new nook color (running 1.2) that I really would like to turn it in to a real tablet. A couple n00b questions:
1. Is honeycomb the best version to put on? Or is it too new to really be usable for a legit tablet?
2. Do I have to use an sd card? I currently don't have one. I don't mind losing the nook default software (although it might be nice to keep it), but is performance as fast from a micro sd card?
3. Where are the current roms and instructions? The latest stuff is CM7? In just getting into this there seems to be a lot of outdated info out there. Just want to make sure I start with the right bits.
Any other thoughts an advice from others who have done this?
Thanks!
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IMO, CM7 or Phiremod V6 (CM7 based) are the best daily drivers for Nook Color right now. Honeycomb is making big progress, but it still not as far along as the other 2 roms. You will need at least 1 SD card, but really you should have a couple. Here is a guide from user "eyeballer" to installing CM7 to your Nook's internal memory. Much more information can be found on the various other roms available, by using the search tab. Best of luck and welcome to the world of Nook!
I tried Froyo and CM7 and couldn't get used to the soft keys. with CM7 2 months ago i wasn't able to connect to my office's wireless network.
I switched over to Deeper-Blue's V4 honeycomb, and the only issue i honestly had for my use of the tablet was no calendar support and having to unmount the SD card in order to install some apps.
I ended up buying Touchdown Exchange to take care of the calendar/email for my business, the wireless worked at my office, and i could play angry birds on a bigger screen as well as reading my kindle app.
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app.
just my 2 cents.
MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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MadCat's build of Honeycomb is certainly not perfect, but it's what I settled on for my NC. CM7/Phiremod are great...if you are looking for a super-sized Android phone experience, but not for a tablet. Honeycomb is specifically designed for tablets, and the changes to the UI make it much better for devices with larger screens.
Once the Honeycomb source is released and somebody actually does a dedicated NC build (rather than just the SDK), I don't think there will be any question as to what most people will be running.
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Hahah..... You're right about the overgrown android phone with the CM7, but it's sure hard to knock the stability of it at the moment. I'll have to give Madcat's HC a try this weekend. I know huge improvements have been made over the last week or so, but haven't had a chance to flash it.
Overgrown phone? I felt that way with NookieFroyo but CM7 with tablet tweaks is awesome. Softkeys right on the taskbar was genius and actually works as opposed to Softkeys on NookieFroyo hellbent on making me go crazy. Honeycomb is the dream but for now Im loving CM7.
And of course, CM7 (therefore phiremod) also has bluetooth support
Found the madcat version-
No OC kernel tho, thats too bad. Will give it a go anyways.
artcwolf said:
I've swapped over to MadCat's new version of honeycomb and while somethings aren't completely stable it is working well for what i do with my tablet, and it's compatible with the latest Kindle app...
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Does the kindle app actually work correctly for you?
I'm using madcat's v3 atm and the kindle app page's always get messed up, as if it's set for a larger screen.
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I went back to the previous version of the kindle app. The latest version did work, but like you said it seemed the pages were messed up.
I changed my LCD density down to 120, but haven't tested the app since then.

[Q] Stick with Tiamat, or do the 3.1 upgrade?

Have been very happy with Tiamat 1.4.0 since it lets me use my Bluetooth keyboard with no issues, and it did give SD Card support.
I gather if I do the 3.1 upgrade I lose the Tiamat kernel, and so may gain some things and lose others.
So, would you recommend the 3.1 upgrade anyway, or stick with Tiamat and 3.0 until there is a 3.1 compatible version of Tiamat?
Thanks!
3.1, it's worth it. Plus look in the dev section. I have my sd card working on 3.1.
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OK, I have done the deed. Will have to see if my Bluetooth keyboard problems reappear going back to stock or not.
Anything in particular I should look at to convince myself this was the right thing to do?
Thanks,
Ewan
Well other people have reported on the general forum that 3.1 actually does is worse on the keyboard than 3.01
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I haven't installed 3.1 because I love the speed that overclocking gives me. For me, there doesn't seem to be an awful lot to gain from 3.1 worth giving that up.
I'm interested to read your opinion, since you were also on the fence about it.
Well, for me it gives me in stock the two main things I installed Tiamat for - Bluetooth keyboard that works, and SD card support. I hardly ever use the stock browser, so the changes there don't really affect me. Hopefully I will see some improvement in video playback.
FWIW...
I'd recommend going ahead with the update (which I think you already did, but I'll write this for future users who have the same question). The reason is because the whole system feels snappier and more responsive (to me anyway). Scrolling is MUCH smoother and feels more like my android phone, which I love. I'm still getting a bit of stuttering when playing back HD flash files, but I had that when I was overclocked to 1.5ghz too. Once the next version of the Tiamat kernel comes out for 3.1, and we'll be able to overclock, 3.1 will be far and away better than 3.0.1. These guys are normally pretty quick about coming up with new kernels. I'm kinda surprised we haven't seen a few already, but I'm sure they're working hard on it.
Either way, you're gonna have to upgrade eventually, so you might as well get it over with. That's basically the way I saw it.
Best of luck to you with whichever you decide.
I also recommend upgrading to 3.1. It's just so smooth that I don't even miss the overclocking on the hacked kernels. Also, two days with no FC's on the stock browser etc. Smooth HQ youtube videos, and no problem with BT keyboard either. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. 3.1 with SD support from BRD FTW!
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Best custom rom to go with?

I will be getting my tablet tomorrow as soon as Fed Ex gets here , what I am wondering is which custom rom available for the a500 is the best one to go with? Personally I am a heavy wifi user, and will be using my tablet a lot for browsing, social, RDP, advanced experimenting, etc. I want to make sure I choose the best rom for that is fairly stable and will not have issues with the above mentioned things.
I am no stranger to roms, I have done many many phones and devices from WebOS devices to hacking some WinCE GPS units, so I am not afraid of a rom being slightly more technical to use.
I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.
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I'm using honeyvillain 3.1. Very fast and stable. I'm also using opera web browser instead stock one because i think is more powerful and useful. With virtousxoom i cannot connect any usb hd. I've tried virtous picasso. It was good but sometimes iconia doesn't wake up from standby. I need to force reboot my tablet using reset button.
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Honeyvillain was one of the ones I have been considering, any quirks you find with it? Anything that should be done to it in your opinion once installed?
Also one of the reasons I am not just going with honeyvillian is no longer being supported... So I am not sure because I want to make sure whatever rom I go with will be supported .
Galaxy v1.0.5 very stable pretty fast,can see SD card,screen shoot button,good battery drain with airplane mode on and wifi.Try them all then you have the feel for each one just like most of us on here did.
I think I've tried just about every ROM on the boards , and while much of it is personal preference, ie: eyecandy and video with Virtuous Galaxy , good all around ROM Virtuous Picasso, and HoneyVillian, Virtuous Xoom which is a good solid ROM with no great battery drain, and iirc deejay has straightened out the USB storage issue. But my all time favorite so far is Virtuous Thrive, only out in it's second iteration, it's already the most stable ROM I've personally used. Like I said though, a lot of it is just personal preference.
Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!
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Yeah I am sure I will probably end up trying them all out anyway. I just looked at my tracking, it's only 300 miles away now!
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lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.
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lol don't know where you're from, but Target has them on sale for $399.99 with a $50.00 Target gift card included, making it $349.99 for the tablet.
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Yeah I seriously thought about going to the local target, but after local sales tax it would of been almost $440 out the door, and then $50 of that savings I would of made would be limited to target. I got one on ebay for $395 + Fedex 2 Day shipping, not too bad. With the roughly $45 I saved in real cash I am weighting out the current case options.
I am considering getting the one I think I saw you got, could be wrong though. On ebay they have those $20 ones that ship out of hong kong with a USB Keyboard, though on amazon and a few other e-retailers you can get them shipped from state side for roughly $30. I figured I could hold off on the case for a little bit and give the after market some time to get some accessories out and let some of the prices drop.
I really love the idea of the case with the keyboard, I do a lot of programming and typing based stuff so for me having a keyboard would be ideal, though I am not a fan of those KB cases in the fact that they are not designed very well, any tablet fitted into one can slip right out if tipped (nothing stopping it from sliding upward), though I imagine I could easily engineer a fix for that , though I also want to find a nice sling bag or backpack for traveling about, it's a tad bit too big for your pocket.
One of the first projects I want to work on is getting ubuntu or backtrack running, I've seen installers on the market and from what I understand they seem to work fairly well, I really hope too that someone manages to port WebOS to the a500, I imagine it would be quite possible. Maybe just a bit of a hassle with some drivers.
Have not tried the thrive yet - i just always end up back at the galaxy, hard on the juice a lot of needless apps seem to run in the background (mdj!) but it just is so smooth no browser screen ripping and its the fastest so far according to:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1175600
MJ-12
Just got my device 30 min ago, as soon as I connected to the wifi on the initial setup it asked me to download the new 3.1 update , which it is currently installing. Then I will do a backup and try the thrive rom.
Got my device flashed to Thrive, sofar it's pretty nice, want to try to find the games that came with it NFS and the other one... I tried the XDA app but when I tried to click my profile in it it crashed
I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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demmo81 said:
I recommand honeyvillian its the most stable from ever I hate the galaxy I do no how its fast as they say when I install it its so slow and the keyboard layout is really ugly... anyway its just me I guess... I love the honey villian
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Yeah I tried the thrive all day, and I found it to be not that stable. A lot of times the gallery would hang, trying to use other players for video would all hang, and an annoying bug with hitting the power button and the device going off, and then back on. I am downloading honeyvillian now.
hi ..... has nobody here tried taboonay with thor kernel... opps i mean with the kernel from he who shall not be named... fast, responsive, great battery life, etc, etc, etc,
Here's my personal take.
Each ROM has it's strengths and weaknesses. Luckily, all of the following support 5MP camera and 2MP front-facing camera, so that's not an issue.
Note that the SD card slot will mount differently in each of the following ROMs.
Virtuous Picasso - Acer-based HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Very close to stock, assume everything will work the way it's supposed to. Major downside (IMHO) -- WP7 fonts. Install Fontchanger and revert back to stock.
Virtuous Galaxy - Galaxy Tab base HC3.1, picasso-hc-kernel. Really snappy, very nice overall. Galaxy UI reminds me of Windows 95; I'm not a fan. Overall very pleasant to use.
Virtuous Xoom - Motorola base, HC3.2, picasso-hc-kernel. It's HC3.2, so it's brag-worthy. Many peripherals you'd assume would work just don't (from what I've read). Can't save directly to secondary SD in camera. Also, some issues with mounting USB (use a 3rd party mounting app from Market).
Virtuous Thrive - No idea.
Honeyvillain - No idea.
Taboonay - Vache is awesome. Basically a clean Acer ROM. Never used it due to since-resolved kernel issues.
My personal ethic is "don't use a ROM that uses a kernel where the source is not available". As Vache says, "using kernel without sources is warez". Basically, if a ROM includes a kernel where the author won't release sources (or patches), it's not even worth messing with.
I also don't like when a ROM author sets the default clock to 1.2GHz. Default OC assumes a lot of things (like the ambient temperature of the environment of the user) -- which is "not cool" (pun intended).
If you want just "a good experience" -- root your A500, install SetCPU (google for a recent apk) and set the scheduler to Interactive, 1000MHz. If you're just hurting for 3.1 (from what I understand 3.1 for A500 is end of July), there's a stock 3.1 updater from Vache available.
I would recommend IconiaRoot (google it) and Acer Recovery installer (from Market). If you have the means, buy a license for Titanium Backup -- it will save you a ton of time switching between ROMs.
MAKE SURE YOU ALWAYS MAKE A FULL BACKUP USING CLOCKWORKMOD.
What do I use? Virtuous Xoom.
Why? It's HC3.2 and it works for me. I don't use external peripherals and don't plan to.
tl;dr -- make backups. experiment. there is no "best"/silver-bullet for everyone. don't mess with ROMs that use no-source kernels.
I am trying out the xoom rom now, so far it is my favorite one that I have tried.
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for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.
dmatusek76 said:
for me is honey villian 1.4 with thor kernel. All usb devices , 3g working great.
Fast , smooth stable.
Tried some Virtuous roms, but there are too many of them and all have too many bugs for me.
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Does your 3G connection persist when screen turns off ??
Because mine doesnt, and i have to rr ril-daemon with the RilRestarter apk to get connected again. This does not happen with galaxy ROM, 3G remains connected when screen turns off.
Beside this issue i agree that honey Villain is the most reliable ROM atm.
no problem with screen off, i'm using latest thor kernel.

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